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2024 Dec 30, 7:29pm   1,915 views  121 comments

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https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/


India: It’s Worse Than You Think

Most Westerners know nothing about India beyond vague ideas about Hinduism, yoga, gurus, and maybe a dash of Bollywood. To such people, this article will be a rude awakening. ...

I had first returned to India with the idea of improving it, but after 11 years, I realized that India was a sinking ship, with worsening and increasingly shameless corruption, degraded people, and a society that was falling apart. I had never met an honest bureaucrat or politician. I applied to emigrate to Canada and my application was approved in a record three weeks.

I now advise East Asian and Western corporations on investing in India. Most of what I tell them sounds to them exaggerated, unrealistic, and unbelievable. After much dance, drama, and a great deal of lost money, they begin to believe what I tell them. However, this learning is never institutionalized because of a refusal to understand India. This is a form of political correctness, a poison eating away the innards of Western values.

When I was a child growing up in India, I learned that “might makes right.” Power was often abused, with those in control acting as if they had a God-given right to exploit and dominate others. The display of authority could be so extreme that questioning it or expecting those in power to do their duty might lead to retribution. Those in authority seemed to believe that their positions were not for serving others but for personal gain.

People who showed respect appeared to have meekly accepted a lower, subservient position. Kind people had to hide their compassion, for being nice was seen as a weakness.

In India, I have rarely seen someone in authority take the initiative to solve a problem he was responsible for. When I was at university, an underaged boy who worked in the kitchen was raped and sodomized by the janitors. I reported the matter, but not only did no one in authority do what was right — something well within their power — the authorities and fellow students threatened me with severe consequences if I pursued the matter further. Devoid of empathy, they also made fun of the boy and me.

Yes, there is an element of sadism here. There is some degree of pleasure that Indians take in the pain suffered by others. The attitude of the authorities was like that of the high-placed Delhi bureaucrat who told me that his Black Label whiskey tastes so much better because he knows that most Indians can’t afford to drink it.

This confuses Westerners. If they had power, even if they were corrupt, in a situation where there was nothing to gain or lose — no bribes to receive since both parties were poor, and no risk of offending someone well-connected — they would do the right thing and book the alleged rapist. These Indians would do nothing, not even lift a finger, unless there was a reward: money or sex. Their apathy was bottomless.


The article goes on about how incredibly low-trust India is as a society.

True? Any people from India want to opine on this?

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84   Patrick   2025 Jan 20, 4:37pm  

I heard the ad on the radio just yesterday.
85   WookieMan   2025 Jan 20, 9:03pm  

rocketjoe79 says

My boss visited India: Train stations had morgues every three stops to collect the bodies of those that died enroute. Meh, I'll be reincarnated, no big.

What are they going to do? Clearly not just build more trains. Who would have thought of that.
86   indc   2025 Jan 24, 9:55am  

https://x.com/JayantBhandari5/status/1882655603170161010

This is post from author of the artucle @patrick shared.

He is saying india treats muslims worse than hindus in pakistan.
Hindus are killed in pakistan just for existing.

While the muslim guy mentioned in the post was arrested by police because he was selling in Hindu event as govt already passed rule saying that only hindus can sell in this hindu event.
88   AmericanKulak   2025 Jan 24, 7:21pm  

Gee, it's almost like carrots and sticks together work better than just carrots.

When is that Chinese Democracy with Free Trade with the US happening?
89   SunnyvaleCA   2025 Jan 24, 9:48pm  

indc says

patrick They are advertising for Indian CPA because indians have properties in India and need special licenses to handle them.

But whites are so terrified of being perceived as racist the whites would couch the advertisement "CPA with additional skills about handling properties in India."
90   Patrick   2025 Jan 24, 10:31pm  

Lol, exactly.
91   Blue   2025 Jan 25, 4:45pm  

Patrick says


I heard the ad on the radio just yesterday.

LOL Probably you missed even more worse than just Indian.
Are you looking for “Some Indian language” CPA! The guy speaks a word or two in that language before continuing in English his promotional message. All they have to do is, disclose that they are certified CPA in India. That’s all.
They are wrong at many levels. Perception is equally important. I doubt they are different from any other CPA when it comes to the work. One should sue them. I mean any non English professionals who use language as a barrier but still use English when it comes to the business.
There is one channel I think Bullywood 92.3fm in bay area they advertise on!
92   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 27, 8:05am  

See a Hindu, Deport a Hindu!!

https://x.com/HinduHate/status/1883276318747546089
Brits need to get off their White supremacy and accept a few realities:
1. Churchill is India's "Hitler". Your heroes are not our heroes. Your history is not our history. You are not allowed to write India's history.
2. Indians are not "gloating" about Pakistani rape gangs. They are showing you the mirror. British created Pakistan out of hate for India and Hindus. Pakis are repaying by raping our girls in your country under your govt while your people are covering it up.
3. Britain is being "colonised" by immigrants. Your national dish is not yours but what immigrants brought in.
Britain and India will never be allies. Get down to your knees, apologise, return things - money and others, looted from us, stop funding hatred for India and Hinduism in your universities, teach your children the real history of British colonialism. We can then think about being allies or not.
94   KgK one   2025 Jan 28, 2:16pm  

https://www.billboard.com/business/touring/coldplay-breaks-record-largest-stadium-shows-21st-century-1235885466/

INDIA just had largest concert in the world. Coldplay rocked.


He is visiting kumbh mela where 400 million people will join for festival. There are many sikhs also there celebrating along hindus.

Kalistani keep attaking the only people who will save them, hopefully. Watch next time muslims do riots n terrorism, Americans will confuse sikhs with turbans as Muslims n they will be killed by error. Most Americans know very little world history. 90% would claim sikh as muslim.

Top three illegals are from gujarat, punjab sikhs, and Andra. Given kalistani badmouths indians, it not only affects hindus but many sikhs , Buddhists,
Jains, Christians. Americans typically group all brown skins together. So kalistani is indirectly hurting self.
96   TechBrosWon   2025 Feb 1, 9:23am  

@kgk Hindu’s “Hindu Junk” will save Sikhs.
What a joke.

Fool some MAGA like @tenpoundbass with Hindu tricks, we know your religions DNA well genocide deniers.

https://time.com/3545867/india-1984-sikh-genocide-anniversary/
It’s Time India Accept Responsibility for Its 1984 Sikh Genocide
97   Misc   2025 Feb 1, 6:04pm  

I got a nice leather belt for Christmas.

Now I know how a female feels when she is told her diamonds may not be conflict free. -- Yes, made in India.
98   AmericanKulak   2025 Feb 1, 7:01pm  

Neoliberals want growth for growth's sake, more people more things more places ... and you end up with Delhi.
99   KgK one   2025 Feb 7, 8:27pm  

Booger says





Yes parts of delhi are full of thieves He went to chor bazaar aka thief market which is worst part of delhi.
100   KgK one   2025 Feb 7, 8:33pm  

If you enjoy sweet stuff sugar, it was found in india.
The history of sugar has five main phases:

The extraction of sugar cane juice from the sugarcane plant, and the subsequent domestication of the plant in tropical India and Southeast Asia sometime around 4,000 BC.
The invention of manufacture of cane sugar granules from sugarcane juice in India a little over two thousand years ago, followed by improvements in refining the crystal granules in India in the early centuries AD.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_sugar
101   Blue   2025 Feb 8, 12:44am  

KgK one says


Yes parts of delhi are full of thieves He went to chor bazaar aka thief market which is worst part of delhi.

One reason could be that there is so much demand from the media for the worst parts of India. On average they make Rs.500 ~ $6/article by 'journalists' who make them. I am not surprised if they use some imaginary pictures as its very hard to recognize some of them.
Perhaps he can do almost similar stuff in SF, Emeryville or Oakland in Bay Area and save time.
102   Patrick   2025 Feb 8, 10:31am  

Lol, true. Any foreign tourist who thinks that Oakland is representative of America will never come back.
103   TechBrosWon   2025 Feb 8, 11:09am  

Oakland is exceptional in USA.

Hindu 90% lives on unliveable income while elites steal everything else.

No comparison:
You have to find Oakland in USA hard.
In India everything is worse than Oakland baring few colonies where thieves live.
104   TechBrosWon   2025 Feb 9, 8:36am  

Patrick says


Lol, true. Any foreign tourist who thinks that Oakland is representative of America will never come back.


@patrick and others ,
Why do you like to be so negative on America?
It is good country and this will be fixed once we held government responsible.

I am not sure why you think all other shitty third world countries are better. You need to visit them once to see for yourselves that we are lucky to live here. Pride is missing in 🇺🇸 citizens, Thisbis what causes decline.
105   Patrick   2025 Feb 9, 6:26pm  

TechBrosWon says

Why do you like to be so negative on America?


I'm not negative about America, just saying that if you judge America by visiting Oakland, you will think America is a terrible place.
106   KgK one   2025 Feb 10, 8:45am  

There are plenty of horrible areas besides Oakland where you see poverty, drugs,crime.

This is after cleaning up in philly, imagine before.
https://youtu.be/p5AeGKSDVdE?si=b-VlJ2_c0HmXnCNt
It's open drug market in philly. It's real, my dubass drove thru it once bcs I didn't belive it existed.
There are many other cities. Baltimore , camden, Newark nj.....

Most of these are run by democrats. Us could have spent $ money better. Lot of nice places in us.

India was well off before British removed 25% world gdp from india. Estimate 60 trillion . After ww1 n ww2 when Europeans countries destroyed each other, it gave usa lot of manufacturing business so it became rich. Now china stole all manufacturing so we are in hugh deficit.

Irony is event hough British were looting india, they were able to get lot of help in india for ww1 n ww2. Mostly bcs starving people will do anything for job


108   Patrick   2025 Feb 10, 9:37am  

KgK one says


India was well off before British removed 25% world gdp from india. Estimate 60 trillion


What wealth did the British remove from India exactly? Gold?

Ireland also suffered under the British, but it was simply a matter of the British occupying the land and setting themselves up as landlords.
109   OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething   2025 Feb 10, 10:06am  

Patrick says

What wealth did the British remove from India exactly? Gold?


That and spices and tea.
110   Patrick   2025 Feb 10, 10:12am  

I don't think it's possible to export $60 trillion of anything.
111   OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething   2025 Feb 10, 10:16am  

Patrick says


I don't think it's possible to export $60 trillion of anything.


It would have been exported anyway. Or most of it. The Brits just took over so they got the wealth at the end.

Like how large Blue state based agricorps such as ADM do the same in Kansas -- which the Lefties then use to claim that Kansas is a taker not a maker state as the final GDP and point of corporate taxation occurs from Chicago and Delaware.

https://www.bamsec.com/filing/119312523194612?cik=7084
112   KgK one   2025 Feb 10, 10:37am  

Here is how, instead of paying , they taxed india n used that money to buy stuff for England.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/12/19/how-britain-stole-45-trillion-from-india

https://www.cadtm.org/spip.php?page=imprimer&id_article=16972

Then they melted gold in some amazing places n stole that. Europeans were not aware of diamonds till 1500, india had its first mine, they took all. You can check out British n dc museums , they have lot on display.british Crown jewel is from india

Then they sold indians as slaves made more $
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-68444807

Lot of this wealth is held privately .
113   TechBrosWon   2025 Feb 10, 10:56am  

Indians are cry baby incompetent Hindus.
Give Hindu a chance, He will eat his "beef mother" and beg like no tomorrow to migrate to west.
Once in west, he will say "India is great" and if you ask him to leave will start licking the shoes to let it remain in west.

Low Pride community.

British is no match for current Hindu loot transferred to Swiss bankers.
Hindus steal from other Hindus and then move the money to Banking elites in west.
Most of the "cry baby Hindus" on this forum live in west and work for west not India, Their kids will never step foot in filthy India forget migration.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/indians-funds-in-swiss-banks-jump-50-to-over-30000-crore/article65533975.ece
Indian kitty in Swiss banks jumped 50% to over ₹30,000 crore in 2021
Surge in securities, institutional holdings takes deposits in Swiss banks to a 14-year-high
114   AmericanKulak   2025 Feb 10, 11:05am  

One thing we SHOULD borrow from India is the "Cane Police" and put them in San Francisco. Smack everybody who shoots up or shits in the street.
116   Patrick   2025 Feb 12, 1:32pm  

As with all 3rd world countries, the problem is ultimately corruption among their elites.

I was watching a Vietnamese movie about a corrupt neighborhood, and my wife remarked that most hot countries seem to be split into extreme poverty and a corrupt mafia-like elite which profits from the extreme poverty via usurious lending, concentrated land ownership, and control over the laws. Anyone who bothers to create a good business will find it taken over by that mafia. So most people don't even bother.

I guess it's not just hot countries. I know a Russian guy whose parents started a successful ISP in Russia, but the police stole it from them. Who are you going to call when it's literally the police who are committing the crimes?

The irony is that the mafia elites are also hurting themselves being very short-sighted. A more prosperous country would make them richer in the long run.
117   OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething   2025 Feb 12, 1:36pm  

Patrick says

As with all 3rd world countries, the problem is ultimately corruption among their elites.

I was watching a Vietnamese movie about a corrupt neighborhood, and my wife remarked that most hot countries seem to be split into extreme poverty and a corrupt mafia-like elite which profits from the extreme poverty via usurious lending, concentrated land ownership, and control over the laws. Anyone who bothers to create a good business will find it taken over by that mafia. So most people don't even bother.

I guess it's not just hot countries. I know a Russian guy whose parents started a successful ISP in Russia, but the police stole it from them. Who are you going to call when it's literally the police who are committing the crimes?

The irony is that the mafia elites are also hurting themselves being very short-sighted. A more prosperous country would make them richer in the long run.


Phillipines is same way. Buddy and I had a successful security biz. Our main competition was that we had more capital than our competitors and our clients trusted us more simply because we were white boys.

When we started taking away biz with big contracts like sugar mills, etc., they moved on us.
118   Patrick   2025 Feb 12, 2:12pm  

Interesting, had no idea you'd lived there. Physical security or computer security?
119   Blue   2025 Feb 12, 2:42pm  

Judges are one of the top tier crooks in the system along with police and politicians who are more dangerous than criminals in practice!
Each case takes a lifetime if lucky or few generations particularly if it is valuable property even after giving routine bribes. Imagine, anyone can walk into gov office and register ANY property in the entire state with very little money and technically he/she is the owner from the court point of view!
Without political influence, no property is safe from criminals.
Societies are still functioning somewhat mostly based on old and essential values who support each other, not based on BS constitution or BS democracy. I am saying with great deal of personal experience and from quite a few others I know of in various fields.
120   OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething   2025 Feb 12, 4:27pm  

Patrick says


Physical security or computer security?


I didn't. I visited. By buddy had family there. Some worked in the firm. I invested $10k (late 1990s) into it to expand the security part. We also had domestic and foreign nursing placement as well.

Example of the capitalization advantage: We would buy used hand scanners on eBay and ship them there. Our competitors couldn't afford them or were too cheap to do so.

Private security is a BIG biz in the Philippines like in so many other third world countries.

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