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2024 Dec 30, 7:29pm   1,348 views  94 comments

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https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/


India: It’s Worse Than You Think

Most Westerners know nothing about India beyond vague ideas about Hinduism, yoga, gurus, and maybe a dash of Bollywood. To such people, this article will be a rude awakening. ...

I had first returned to India with the idea of improving it, but after 11 years, I realized that India was a sinking ship, with worsening and increasingly shameless corruption, degraded people, and a society that was falling apart. I had never met an honest bureaucrat or politician. I applied to emigrate to Canada and my application was approved in a record three weeks.

I now advise East Asian and Western corporations on investing in India. Most of what I tell them sounds to them exaggerated, unrealistic, and unbelievable. After much dance, drama, and a great deal of lost money, they begin to believe what I tell them. However, this learning is never institutionalized because of a refusal to understand India. This is a form of political correctness, a poison eating away the innards of Western values.

When I was a child growing up in India, I learned that “might makes right.” Power was often abused, with those in control acting as if they had a God-given right to exploit and dominate others. The display of authority could be so extreme that questioning it or expecting those in power to do their duty might lead to retribution. Those in authority seemed to believe that their positions were not for serving others but for personal gain.

People who showed respect appeared to have meekly accepted a lower, subservient position. Kind people had to hide their compassion, for being nice was seen as a weakness.

In India, I have rarely seen someone in authority take the initiative to solve a problem he was responsible for. When I was at university, an underaged boy who worked in the kitchen was raped and sodomized by the janitors. I reported the matter, but not only did no one in authority do what was right — something well within their power — the authorities and fellow students threatened me with severe consequences if I pursued the matter further. Devoid of empathy, they also made fun of the boy and me.

Yes, there is an element of sadism here. There is some degree of pleasure that Indians take in the pain suffered by others. The attitude of the authorities was like that of the high-placed Delhi bureaucrat who told me that his Black Label whiskey tastes so much better because he knows that most Indians can’t afford to drink it.

This confuses Westerners. If they had power, even if they were corrupt, in a situation where there was nothing to gain or lose — no bribes to receive since both parties were poor, and no risk of offending someone well-connected — they would do the right thing and book the alleged rapist. These Indians would do nothing, not even lift a finger, unless there was a reward: money or sex. Their apathy was bottomless.


The article goes on about how incredibly low-trust India is as a society.

True? Any people from India want to opine on this?

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44   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 15, 5:31pm  

KgK one says

AI is going to kill jobs for all.

Self driving trucks will make many sikh out of jobs.
IT folks can bitch all they want n blame any race, ai is going to take over many jobs.

When there is need , they will bend all rules to get h1b, due to it recession, now I fully get why we need to give Americans priority over external h1b imports. We don't need to brain drain other countries. Just teach more stem in usa.

For now visit india to enjoy largest spiritual gathering.

https://youtu.be/sZHVAqaYCV4?si=WjYXnMcc3A0AKaxv



Both Steve jobs , Zuckerberg took blessing in india before they succeed. Could be spiritual or could be just coincident.





Stupid
45   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 16, 6:54am  

🇮🇳 is a shithole ruined by Hindus!
47   indc   2025 Jan 16, 1:47pm  

And your country is developed my looting all other shades of people.
49   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2025 Jan 16, 4:07pm  

Patrick says


The article goes on about how incredibly low-trust India is as a society.

True? Any people from India want to opine on this?


China is low trust also. Japan the opposite. I think Korea is more like Japan than China.

US was 'high mid trust'. Mostly because we had strong rule of law as well as a common dominant culture. Like the Roman Republic in its first 500 years or so. But that has been going down the tubes. Just like it did for Rome.
50   Patrick   2025 Jan 16, 4:16pm  

I agree. The strengths of the US were a common dominant European culture and a sense of civic pride which made immigrants want to assimilate.

And now we have a culture which has been deliberately fragmented in order to weaken resistance to the whims of the ruling class. But this is also killing the golden goose that made the ruling class rich to begin with.

"An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." – Sun Tzu (maybe)

I'm not sure the process can be reversed, but MAGA is about trying to do exactly that.
51   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2025 Jan 16, 4:28pm  

Patrick says

I'm not sure the process can be reversed, but MAGA is about trying to do exactly that.


Didn't work for the Roman 'middle class' (yeomanry) despite attempts at reform.
52   RWSGFY   2025 Jan 16, 4:39pm  

indc says


And your country is developed my looting all other shades of people.


STOLE ALL TOILETS!!!!!
55   RWSGFY   2025 Jan 17, 4:01pm  

KgK one says

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/SH.STA.ODFC.ZS/rankings





BRING MOAR H1B FROM THESE SUPERIOR CULTURES TO FIX AMERICA ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!
57   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 18, 9:12am  

🇮🇳 Hindus in south are actually doing better.
🐄 belt Hindus are just caste system!
58   rocketjoe79   2025 Jan 18, 12:38pm  

REpro says

DOGEWontAmountToShit says







This electrified train is indeed technologically advanced and eco-friendly.

My boss visited India: Train stations had morgues every three stops to collect the bodies of those that died enroute. Meh, I'll be reincarnated, no big.
59   indc   2025 Jan 18, 6:06pm  

rocketjoe79 says

My boss visited India: Train stations had morgues every three stops to collect the bodies of those that died enroute. Meh, I'll be reincarnated, no big

Really dude, are these 60's where you dont have any internet and anyone can exaggerate their narrative. Train stations with morgues. I would like to know which places he visited?

And I would like to call you dumb on reincarnation. How do you think it works?
60   gabbar   2025 Jan 19, 6:56am  

Current PM of India, Modi is equivalent of Trump and he has been shitting on wokeism for past decade plus. Trump has had investments in India before he got into politics. Gujrati Patels are big supporters of Trump since they are also in hotel/motel business.
61   KgK one   2025 Jan 19, 9:50am  

It's threat of china, which is forcing USA to align with india.
China has beaten usa in many manufacturing fronts. N almost ready with navel power.

People fight over couple of 100k h1b jobs, but check out how many jobs left when manufacturing left usa. Each factory created 5 to 10 k jobs.
Clinton n dems must have made lot shipping those jobs overseas
62   indc   2025 Jan 19, 10:01am  

KgK one says

People fight over couple of 100k h1b jobs, but check out how many jobs left when manufacturing left usa.

The problem is those are low paying jobs, so they are ok with those being shipped out. But brown people are taking high paying jobs. How can a 3rd world shit take high paying jobs. If brown people take low paying jobs then there is no problem.
63   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 19, 10:33am  

indc says

KgK one says


People fight over couple of 100k h1b jobs, but check out how many jobs left when manufacturing left usa.

The problem is those are low paying jobs, so they are ok with those being shipped out. But brown people are taking high paying jobs. How can a 3rd world shit take high paying jobs. If brown people take low paying jobs then there is no problem.


Moreover Hindus are quite incompetent and destroy anything they get their hand on.

Look How they ransacked 🇮🇳 and have zero pride.
Few herdsman from undeveloped Middle East can defeat billion Hindus.
64   goofus   2025 Jan 19, 10:38am  

KgK one says

It's threat of china, which is forcing USA to align with india.
China has beaten usa in many manufacturing fronts. N almost ready with navel power.

People fight over couple of 100k h1b jobs, but check out how many jobs left when manufacturing left usa. Each factory created 5 to 10 k jobs.
Clinton n dems must have made lot shipping those jobs overseas


It’s possible to oppose both, recognizing the H1B jobs are in the millions, and expanding to low level jobs. The combination of offshoring, outsourcing, and hiring replacement labor (H1B) is lethal to our middle class.
65   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 19, 10:54am  

goofus says


KgK one says


It's threat of china, which is forcing USA to align with india.
China has beaten usa in many manufacturing fronts. N almost ready with navel power.

People fight over couple of 100k h1b jobs, but check out how many jobs left when manufacturing left usa. Each factory created 5 to 10 k jobs.
Clinton n dems must have made lot shipping those jobs overseas


It’s possible to oppose both, recognizing the H1B jobs are in the millions, and expanding to low level jobs. The combination of offshoring, outsourcing, and hiring replacement labor (H1B) is lethal to our middle class.



Hindus are net negative to fight 🇨🇳.
China at will slaps Hindus in 🇮🇳 and takes their land.
Hindus capability can be seen by just visiting the abysmal 🇮🇳.

Hindus are very poor innovators and even worse at industrialise their ideas.

Hindu IQ of 77 is no match for 110+ for Chinese hans.
66   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 19, 10:57am  

goofus says

KgK one says


It's threat of china, which is forcing USA to align with india.
China has beaten usa in many manufacturing fronts. N almost ready with navel power.

People fight over couple of 100k h1b jobs, but check out how many jobs left when manufacturing left usa. Each factory created 5 to 10 k jobs.
Clinton n dems must have made lot shipping those jobs overseas


It’s possible to oppose both, recognizing the H1B jobs are in the millions, and expanding to low level jobs. The combination of offshoring, outsourcing, and hiring replacement labor (H1B) is lethal to our middle class.


To beat 🇨🇳 US should deports incompetent Hindus back to 🇮🇳.

Instead import high IQ Europeans, Koreans , Japanese and pro-west Chinese.
Hindu incompetence can be seen by visiting 🇮🇳.
67   Patrick   2025 Jan 19, 10:58am  

There is no winning in disparaging all of India.

To put it differently: what constructive actions do you hope India will take?
68   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2025 Jan 19, 11:02am  

Patrick says

There is no winning in disparaging all of India.


Yes, there is.
70   Patrick   2025 Jan 19, 11:06am  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Patrick says


There is no winning in disparaging all of India.


Yes, there is.


How do you think it will help resolve anything?
71   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2025 Jan 19, 12:20pm  

Patrick says


How do you think it will help resolve anything?


WTF?

Resolve what?

Will not disparaging all of India resolve anything? No.

Both are pretty much stupid questions o
if you ask me.
72   goofus   2025 Jan 19, 12:35pm  

Patrick says


DOGEWontAmountToShit says


Patrick says


There is no winning in disparaging all of India.


Yes, there is.



How do you think it will help resolve anything?



Didn’t the general wave of online “hate” toward India start after July 2024, once Vance was the VP candidate? I can’t remember seeing more than the occasional Ganges gross out thread (elsewhere), and FarmersWon postings. After July though, it’s been non-stop. The left allocated huge money toward online “influencing” and opinion shifting. Maybe they thought Republicans, whom they consider inveterate racists, would abandon Trump over Vance’s wife? It seems ridiculous, but this IS the modern left we’re talking about.

That aside, no one wants wage undercutting, nepotism in hiring, or the various social pathologies of India — over here. So I’m glad for the H1B discussions. It’s about time.
73   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 19, 1:44pm  

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India 🇮🇳 is low IQ Hindu country and in shambles.
Why are 75% H1B Hindus?

It is Hindu nepotism and whites are stupidly allowing it.
74   KgK one   2025 Jan 19, 4:14pm  

Booger says






Isn't los angels, cali richest county , its crazy what poop map looks like.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/dec/1/brownout-spreads-san-franciscos-public-poo-problem/
https://sfstandard.com/2023/06/06/san-francisco-homeless-population-demographics/

43% are homeless whites pooping on street. Guessing drugs etc.
Philly has same problem.

So I found out that youtube n other media censor american pooping on street.

Sikhs in punjab do it more than most of India. Guessing lot of them are farmers and farms don't always have bathrooms.



You can thank india for starting America, it was found by mistake by columbus. Most people in europe thought world was flat but he decided to go other way to make it to india. Trade with india was very lucrative, indian spices fetched 3 generation of wealth. Europeans were begging to trade there. Till British took out industry. You can find Roman gold coins all over india.


75   Patrick   2025 Jan 19, 6:17pm  

TechBrosWon says

Why are 75% H1B Hindus?

It is Hindu nepotism and whites are stupidly allowing it.


This is true.

Just now in the car, I was on a local Indian station, and an ad came on asking if listeners were looking for an Indian CPA.

WTF? Can you imagine an ad asking if you're looking for a white CPA?
76   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 19, 6:41pm  

KgK one says


Sikhs in punjab do it more than most of India. Guessing lot of them are farmers and farms don't always have bathrooms.


@kgk
Hindus have least amount of self-awareness. Not sure If it is low IQ(77) , Fraud mentality or inability to comprehend basic data.
Punjab has very little rural/urban open defecation.

77   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 19, 6:43pm  

Patrick says


TechBrosWon says


Why are 75% H1B Hindus?

It is Hindu nepotism and whites are stupidly allowing it.


This is true.

Just now in the car, I was on a local Indian station, and an ad came on asking if listeners were looking for an Indian CPA.

WTF? Can you imagine an ad asking if you're looking for a white CPA?


I have to give it to whites to be fair for now.
If this shit continues, they will also become tribal like other groups.

USA must stop immigration now and not let any group from world become greater than 1% of population.

By the way Sikhs also create problems in Canada due to tribalism and I recommend Canadian government to reduce immigration of Sikhs.
78   indc   2025 Jan 19, 11:13pm  

Patrick says


Just now in the car, I was on a local Indian station, and an ad came on asking if listeners were looking for an Indian CPA.

WTF? Can you imagine an ad asking if you're looking for a white CPA?


@patrick They are advertising for Indian CPA because indians have properties in India and need special licenses to handle them.

You think poor Indians dont have anything back home.

Indians come to US with big nest eggs. The reason they are here is to grow that nest egg.

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I edited: because i dont know why it was marked personal. I removed my sarcastic comment.
79   Blue   2025 Jan 19, 11:16pm  

Patrick says

TechBrosWon says


Why are 75% H1B Hindus?

It is Hindu nepotism and whites are stupidly allowing it.


This is true.

Just now in the car, I was on a local Indian station, and an ad came on asking if listeners were looking for an Indian CPA.

WTF? Can you imagine an ad asking if you're looking for a white CPA?

75% is a not surprising from a country where 80% are Hindus. Its a hard math for any Jihadist!
About "Indian CPA" is wrong. They suppose to rephrase that if someone is looking for tax filing or dealing with any stuff like money, property, personal or business transactions in both in US and India etc. Some time its too long to convey the message on radio, may be they try short cut or may be not.
80   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 19, 11:26pm  

personal
81   AmericanKulak   2025 Jan 20, 12:19am  

Yeah, one rule we do need is that US Tax Accounting must be done in the US by US Citizens.

Also we have to start insisting on reciprocal trade. 1000 call centers for some mangos worth 1/10th a much isn't a good deal for Americans.
82   Patrick   2025 Jan 20, 2:26pm  

indc says

They are advertising for Indian CPA because indians have properties in India and need special licenses to handle them.


Thanks for editing out the insult.

I heard nothing about properties in India in that radio ad.
83   indc   2025 Jan 20, 3:27pm  

Patrick says

I heard nothing about properties in India in that radio ad.


I dont know how old the AD is. But with present environment in US i dont think any Indian would want to talk about their holdings in India.

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