Deportation Thread: You gotta go back
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DeficitHawk
2025 May 14, 8:19pm
DeficitHawk
2025 May 14, 8:19pm
Patrick says
I mean per capita... people who cram into small space consume less housing per capita. People who live solo in a house occupy more housing per capita. So for a given population size, people who share housing have less impact than people who have their own.
Im saying 1 million illegal construction workers put less pressure on house prices than 1 million H1B holders or 1 million retirees.
What? No, just the opposite.
Lots of illegals cramming into one space drives prices up because they pay more with their combined illegal incomes than US citizens can.
I mean per capita... people who cram into small space consume less housing per capita. People who live solo in a house occupy more housing per capita. So for a given population size, people who share housing have less impact than people who have their own.
Im saying 1 million illegal construction workers put less pressure on house prices than 1 million H1B holders or 1 million retirees.
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AmericanKulak
2025 May 14, 8:20pm
AmericanKulak
2025 May 14, 8:20pm
DeficitHawk says
US Tech actually created entirely new markets using almost entirely US Native born workers before.
Starlink and SpaceX basically refuse to hire Mainland Chinese for any sort of R&D or Production role, because they know how much the SEOs controlled by the CCP want to steal the tech: Shanghai Spacecom Satellite Technology and China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, as well as pass-throughs like CASIL Telecommunications Holdings Limited.
In my area, H1B's probably drive housing cost a lot more than illegal immigrants. They are higher income and they buy houses. But if we send them away, then several industries around here would become non-competitive, and the industry itself would move overseas.
US Tech actually created entirely new markets using almost entirely US Native born workers before.
Starlink and SpaceX basically refuse to hire Mainland Chinese for any sort of R&D or Production role, because they know how much the SEOs controlled by the CCP want to steal the tech: Shanghai Spacecom Satellite Technology and China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, as well as pass-throughs like CASIL Telecommunications Holdings Limited.
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DeficitHawk
2025 May 14, 8:25pm
DeficitHawk
2025 May 14, 8:25pm
AmericanKulak says
Doesn't change the truth of what I said though.
US Tech actually created entirely new markets using almost entirely US Native born workers before.
Doesn't change the truth of what I said though.
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DeficitHawk
2025 May 14, 8:27pm
DeficitHawk
2025 May 14, 8:27pm
AmericanKulak says
yeah, thats defense critical work. Its reasonable to have requirements for citizenship for those companies.
Starlink and SpaceX basically refuse to hire Mainland Chinese
yeah, thats defense critical work. Its reasonable to have requirements for citizenship for those companies.
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AmericanKulak
2025 May 14, 8:34pm
AmericanKulak
2025 May 14, 8:34pm
DeficitHawk says
Sure it does. We created entirely new markets and produced for them and it's pretty clear 90%+ of them were native born.
The "We'll die without a huge number of foreign workers" is unalloyed malarky. We're not talking the odd genius who ALWAYS got a visa no problem, esp. if they had a University or Corporate sponsor.
Doesn't change the truth of what I said though.
Sure it does. We created entirely new markets and produced for them and it's pretty clear 90%+ of them were native born.
The "We'll die without a huge number of foreign workers" is unalloyed malarky. We're not talking the odd genius who ALWAYS got a visa no problem, esp. if they had a University or Corporate sponsor.
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Patrick
2025 May 14, 8:36pm
Patrick
2025 May 14, 8:36pm
DeficitHawk says
That's the lie that Zuckerberg et al tell over and over, just like the "Americans don't want those jobs" lie. The truth is that the H1B program is just another way to stiff American workers by hiring compliant foreigners instead. The proof is that H1Bs are generally paid less than Americans for the same jobs:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/12/27/silicon-valleys-open-secret-h-1b-visa-workers-paid-10-less-than-american-counterparts/
H1B should be strictly limited to people who will get paid twice as much as the average American in the same job. If they're that good, they'll be worth it. Otherwise, it's just yet more bullshit designed to screw American workers to pay for the next yacht or private plane for the boss.
Even if H1B workers were paid the same as Americans, they would still be putting downward pressure on US salaries.
Yes, we need H1Bs if we want to keep a leadership role in technology industries.
That's the lie that Zuckerberg et al tell over and over, just like the "Americans don't want those jobs" lie. The truth is that the H1B program is just another way to stiff American workers by hiring compliant foreigners instead. The proof is that H1Bs are generally paid less than Americans for the same jobs:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/12/27/silicon-valleys-open-secret-h-1b-visa-workers-paid-10-less-than-american-counterparts/
H1B should be strictly limited to people who will get paid twice as much as the average American in the same job. If they're that good, they'll be worth it. Otherwise, it's just yet more bullshit designed to screw American workers to pay for the next yacht or private plane for the boss.
Even if H1B workers were paid the same as Americans, they would still be putting downward pressure on US salaries.
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Patrick
2025 May 14, 8:38pm
Patrick
2025 May 14, 8:38pm
DeficitHawk says
Who cares?
The result is that illegal immigration drives up housing costs for Americans, especially the poorest Americans.
I mean per capita... people who cram into small space consume less housing per capita.
Who cares?
The result is that illegal immigration drives up housing costs for Americans, especially the poorest Americans.
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Fortwaye
2025 May 14, 8:59pm
Patrick says
we all know this. but as long as some assholes make fortunes from fucking over America, it’ll continue.
DeficitHawk says
I mean per capita... people who cram into small space consume less housing per capita.
Who cares?
The result is that illegal immigration drives up housing costs for Americans, especially the poorest Americans.
we all know this. but as long as some assholes make fortunes from fucking over America, it’ll continue.
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DeficitHawk
2025 May 14, 9:07pm
DeficitHawk
2025 May 14, 9:07pm
Patrick says
I think you are thinking short term... like "if there are less people tomorrow, there will be less demand for housing and prices will go down". But you are not thinking longer term.. like "If there are less people repairing and building new housing, the housing inventory will decrease, and the cost to replace it will increase".
I know that americans will take the job building houses if the jobs pay enough, but the americans would be quitting some other job (which currently pays more than construction) to take it... leaving that field understaffed and so on. That's been my whole point that you seem to refuse to hear.
I really believe there is a demographic shortage of people that makes it hard to fill all of the jobs we want filled without immigrants... so sending migrants home will just compound that problem. You want the native population to have more kids to supply the labor force?... ok... but theres two problems with that. One: They wont. Two: Even if they did that just recreates the same housing supply/demand situation as we have today, just with native born people instead of immigrants. How does it fix anything?
Maybe you want the Japan style population decline, with abandoned houses overgrown with weeds in rural towns while the remaining population moves to the cities to keep the factories running..
I just dont understand what you think will happen long term if we send all the immigrants away and leave ourselves with an inverted population pyramid.
The result is that illegal immigration drives up housing costs for Americans, especially the poorest Americans.
I think you are thinking short term... like "if there are less people tomorrow, there will be less demand for housing and prices will go down". But you are not thinking longer term.. like "If there are less people repairing and building new housing, the housing inventory will decrease, and the cost to replace it will increase".
I know that americans will take the job building houses if the jobs pay enough, but the americans would be quitting some other job (which currently pays more than construction) to take it... leaving that field understaffed and so on. That's been my whole point that you seem to refuse to hear.
I really believe there is a demographic shortage of people that makes it hard to fill all of the jobs we want filled without immigrants... so sending migrants home will just compound that problem. You want the native population to have more kids to supply the labor force?... ok... but theres two problems with that. One: They wont. Two: Even if they did that just recreates the same housing supply/demand situation as we have today, just with native born people instead of immigrants. How does it fix anything?
Maybe you want the Japan style population decline, with abandoned houses overgrown with weeds in rural towns while the remaining population moves to the cities to keep the factories running..
I just dont understand what you think will happen long term if we send all the immigrants away and leave ourselves with an inverted population pyramid.
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WookieMan
2025 May 14, 9:34pm
WookieMan
2025 May 14, 9:34pm
DeficitHawk says
Stop listening to Peter Ziehan. He's been massively wrong on many topics. He has a disdain for Trump. He really doesn't know anything if you listen enough. I feel like that's where you're getting some of your information. I listen to all sides and he's left leaning and talks out his ass 95% of the time.
You can physically know every country and every industry in in the world. That's what he claims. China is collapsing the the next decade. He said that a decade ago.... He dislikes Trump which is his right. But be careful to who you listen to.
Not solid on his take of something that's going to happen in the next 2 years. It's always a decade. He's a personality that hates Trump. Tread lightly when he speaks, it's mostly lies and he's wrong. Won't ever admit it.
I just dont understand what you think will happen long term if we send all the immigrants away and leave ourselves with an inverted population pyramid.
Stop listening to Peter Ziehan. He's been massively wrong on many topics. He has a disdain for Trump. He really doesn't know anything if you listen enough. I feel like that's where you're getting some of your information. I listen to all sides and he's left leaning and talks out his ass 95% of the time.
You can physically know every country and every industry in in the world. That's what he claims. China is collapsing the the next decade. He said that a decade ago.... He dislikes Trump which is his right. But be careful to who you listen to.
Not solid on his take of something that's going to happen in the next 2 years. It's always a decade. He's a personality that hates Trump. Tread lightly when he speaks, it's mostly lies and he's wrong. Won't ever admit it.
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Ceffer
2025 May 14, 10:24pm
Ceffer
2025 May 14, 10:24pm
Wow. Did somebody turn his buttplug 180 degrees? Was it something Trump said? Was there an agreement on Epstein vids?
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Ceffer
2025 May 14, 10:26pm
Ceffer
2025 May 14, 10:26pm
No, we can see the Jesuit hand in the Episcopal Church. Follow the money.
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zzyzzx
2025 May 15, 9:03am
zzyzzx
2025 May 15, 9:03am
DeficitHawk says
Workforce participation numbers suggest that there is no shortage of potential workers.
I really believe there is a demographic shortage of people that makes it hard to fill all of the jobs we want filled without immigrants
Workforce participation numbers suggest that there is no shortage of potential workers.
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DeficitHawk
2025 May 15, 9:17am
DeficitHawk
2025 May 15, 9:17am
WookieMan says
I have seen his podcasts. I agree he is a bit of a drama queen and always takes the most sensationalist extrapolation, which wont actually happen.
BUT, the fact that demographics really does affect the economic pressures of a country is really true. A country with a pyramid shaped demographics will have fundamentally different prospects and challenges than a country with an inverted pyramid.
My views on immigration are mostly informed by my work alongside many immigrants, and travels to other countries. Look at South Korea, which is a country who's population is declining and does not have a big immigration component. The young people I work with there are total workaholics with a stressful and unenjoyable quality of life. Those guys carry a heavy burden, they have to do all the work of a population that has fewer workers. You would think they have cheap houses because population is declining... but most of them move to urban centers which are still growing in density to find jobs. Its the rural areas that are getting depopulated. So even though their country's population is declining, they still have to contend with expensive housing, traffic, and all of the challenges of population density, along with extreme working hours, and their quality of life is not great.
I sometimes think the Silicon Valley work-life balance is unpleasant, and even inhuman... But its nothing to complain about compared to the South Koreans.
Similar thing has been happening in Japan for a long time. While population is declining, the urban areas themselves are growing and the rural areas are depopulating rapidly. There ARE cheap houses available in Japan... but they are in depopulated rural areas where only a few retired people live anymore, and the schools have closed down and there are no jobs. In fact, Japan has started to allow more immigration to get foreigners to occupy the abandoned rural houses.
Imagine if we snap our fingers and suddenly all the immigrants are gone from the USA. Wont we look forward to a future like Japan and South Korea? Workers have to work harder to support the retirees, urban centers continue to grow and densify while rural areas deplete, and people dont get the good quality of life they are being promised.
You guys all seem to think that if we stop immigration, and deport all the immigrants who are here... that somehow we will create a utopia where workers will get a greater share of the 'good life'... Good wages, cheap housing, no traffic, everything you can want.... but I think its a false promise and wont happen. We'll have labor shortage, yes high wages, but even higher costs. Fewer workers have to support more retirees either directly or through taxes and it will drain on their income. Urbanites will still suffer with expensive housing and traffic, and rural people will watch their towns decay to just a few grandmas and a bunch of empty rotting houses. Thats what happened in two countries I visit frequently who do NOT have much immigration.
I agree, our quality of life is suffering. We work harder and seem to get less of a share. Housing is super expensive, traffic sucks, and we have to work long hours to get by. I don't know the solution. I think blaming the immigrants is not the right answer, and removing them wont fix the problem.
Stop listening to Peter Ziehan. He's been massively wrong on many topics.
I have seen his podcasts. I agree he is a bit of a drama queen and always takes the most sensationalist extrapolation, which wont actually happen.
BUT, the fact that demographics really does affect the economic pressures of a country is really true. A country with a pyramid shaped demographics will have fundamentally different prospects and challenges than a country with an inverted pyramid.
My views on immigration are mostly informed by my work alongside many immigrants, and travels to other countries. Look at South Korea, which is a country who's population is declining and does not have a big immigration component. The young people I work with there are total workaholics with a stressful and unenjoyable quality of life. Those guys carry a heavy burden, they have to do all the work of a population that has fewer workers. You would think they have cheap houses because population is declining... but most of them move to urban centers which are still growing in density to find jobs. Its the rural areas that are getting depopulated. So even though their country's population is declining, they still have to contend with expensive housing, traffic, and all of the challenges of population density, along with extreme working hours, and their quality of life is not great.
I sometimes think the Silicon Valley work-life balance is unpleasant, and even inhuman... But its nothing to complain about compared to the South Koreans.
Similar thing has been happening in Japan for a long time. While population is declining, the urban areas themselves are growing and the rural areas are depopulating rapidly. There ARE cheap houses available in Japan... but they are in depopulated rural areas where only a few retired people live anymore, and the schools have closed down and there are no jobs. In fact, Japan has started to allow more immigration to get foreigners to occupy the abandoned rural houses.
Imagine if we snap our fingers and suddenly all the immigrants are gone from the USA. Wont we look forward to a future like Japan and South Korea? Workers have to work harder to support the retirees, urban centers continue to grow and densify while rural areas deplete, and people dont get the good quality of life they are being promised.
You guys all seem to think that if we stop immigration, and deport all the immigrants who are here... that somehow we will create a utopia where workers will get a greater share of the 'good life'... Good wages, cheap housing, no traffic, everything you can want.... but I think its a false promise and wont happen. We'll have labor shortage, yes high wages, but even higher costs. Fewer workers have to support more retirees either directly or through taxes and it will drain on their income. Urbanites will still suffer with expensive housing and traffic, and rural people will watch their towns decay to just a few grandmas and a bunch of empty rotting houses. Thats what happened in two countries I visit frequently who do NOT have much immigration.
I agree, our quality of life is suffering. We work harder and seem to get less of a share. Housing is super expensive, traffic sucks, and we have to work long hours to get by. I don't know the solution. I think blaming the immigrants is not the right answer, and removing them wont fix the problem.
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DeficitHawk
2025 May 15, 12:30pm
DeficitHawk
2025 May 15, 12:30pm
zzyzzx says
Yes but those potential workers are 75 years old and retired. Workforce participation shows retirees are not working, which is normal and expected. The fraction of retirees is growing. The fastest growing segment of the population is >75 years old. That's what I've been trying to say over and over. That's our core demographic challenge.
'Prime Age Workforce Participation' is near all time highs ~83% today vs ~70% in the 1960's. Unemployment is low.
It is also true that school aged kids have a little bit lower participation rates than in the 90's because they spend more time on education, but participation of those kids is still up compared to the 1960s. Its also true that women are a higher fraction of the total today than they were in the 60s.
Everyone is trying to spin a narrative that there are heaps of working age people who would work if the damn immigrants hadn't suppressed their wages, and are now not even trying to work. That's not what I am seeing in this data, and not in the people I know. I literally know 0 people who meet that description. I am seeing people working many hours at one or multiple jobs, and feeling stressed out... and still having trouble affording mortgages, and I see that EVERYWHERE in many of my friends and family.
I agree there IS a problem. We are working hard but not getting the good life. I just don't agree with the 'Its the immigrants' narrative for why. I think the low labor participation rate IS a big factor, but I think the non-participants are the retirees, and they are also responsible for occupying an increasing share of the housing stock. That's why everyone has to work harder and gets less.
Workforce participation numbers suggest that there is no shortage of potential workers.
Yes but those potential workers are 75 years old and retired. Workforce participation shows retirees are not working, which is normal and expected. The fraction of retirees is growing. The fastest growing segment of the population is >75 years old. That's what I've been trying to say over and over. That's our core demographic challenge.
'Prime Age Workforce Participation' is near all time highs ~83% today vs ~70% in the 1960's. Unemployment is low.
It is also true that school aged kids have a little bit lower participation rates than in the 90's because they spend more time on education, but participation of those kids is still up compared to the 1960s. Its also true that women are a higher fraction of the total today than they were in the 60s.
Everyone is trying to spin a narrative that there are heaps of working age people who would work if the damn immigrants hadn't suppressed their wages, and are now not even trying to work. That's not what I am seeing in this data, and not in the people I know. I literally know 0 people who meet that description. I am seeing people working many hours at one or multiple jobs, and feeling stressed out... and still having trouble affording mortgages, and I see that EVERYWHERE in many of my friends and family.
I agree there IS a problem. We are working hard but not getting the good life. I just don't agree with the 'Its the immigrants' narrative for why. I think the low labor participation rate IS a big factor, but I think the non-participants are the retirees, and they are also responsible for occupying an increasing share of the housing stock. That's why everyone has to work harder and gets less.
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clambo
2025 May 15, 12:41pm
The slave masters want foreign workers; it's not always a question of price either.
My Jewish, rich, female friend in a small rich town in Connecticut which is a train commute to Manhattan hired an illegal alien nanny for her children.
Why? Because it's likely she needed to feel superior, feel like she's "helping someone", she also needed to pay someone less than the white WASP towns people where she lived, and of course, as a Jew, she deep down hates white American WASPs.
She wanted someone who would be slightly submissive to her, as latina servants generally are.
My Jewish, rich, female friend in a small rich town in Connecticut which is a train commute to Manhattan hired an illegal alien nanny for her children.
Why? Because it's likely she needed to feel superior, feel like she's "helping someone", she also needed to pay someone less than the white WASP towns people where she lived, and of course, as a Jew, she deep down hates white American WASPs.
She wanted someone who would be slightly submissive to her, as latina servants generally are.
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HeadSet
2025 May 15, 1:54pm
HeadSet
2025 May 15, 1:54pm
clambo says
And taxes.
My Jewish, rich, female friend in a small rich town in Connecticut which is a train commute to Manhattan hired an illegal alien nanny for her children.
Why? Because it's likely she needed to feel superior, feel like she's "helping someone", she also needed to pay someone less than the white WASP
And taxes.
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HeadSet
2025 May 15, 1:56pm
HeadSet
2025 May 15, 1:56pm
Illegals are immune to prosecution for crimes that would put a citizen in jail:
Blue state prosecutor gives unlicensed illegal immigrant probation for causing deadly car wreck
https://thedailybs.com/2025/05/14/blue-state-prosecutor-gives-unlicensed-illegal-immigrant-probation-for-causing-deadly-car-wreck/
Blue state prosecutor gives unlicensed illegal immigrant probation for causing deadly car wreck
https://thedailybs.com/2025/05/14/blue-state-prosecutor-gives-unlicensed-illegal-immigrant-probation-for-causing-deadly-car-wreck/
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Ceffer
2025 May 15, 3:00pm
Ceffer
2025 May 15, 3:00pm
Patrick says
Did he escape and survive from being tied to a masthead naked by immense hirsute lesbians after his last 'undercover' operation as Berkeley street investigator at one of their insane, violent protests? I thought they were to sail him out past the Golden Gate and sacrifice him to the Goddess of Bush.
They musta diddled with his brain and turned him into a propaganda dafter.
I'm now pretty sure DeficitHawk is actually Iwog.
Did he escape and survive from being tied to a masthead naked by immense hirsute lesbians after his last 'undercover' operation as Berkeley street investigator at one of their insane, violent protests? I thought they were to sail him out past the Golden Gate and sacrifice him to the Goddess of Bush.
They musta diddled with his brain and turned him into a propaganda dafter.
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MolotovCocktail
2025 May 15, 4:26pm
MolotovCocktail
2025 May 15, 4:26pm
Patrick says
Nooo! Really?
The Pedo of PatNet is back!
I'm now pretty sure DeficitHawk is actually Iwog.
Nooo! Really?
The Pedo of PatNet is back!
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DeficitHawk
2025 May 15, 4:28pm
DeficitHawk
2025 May 15, 4:28pm
MolotovCocktail says
OK Im taking this for my avatar. Kinda blurry. Any other insult images that I find funny, I will also take as my avatar. Have at it.
Patrick says
I'm now pretty sure DeficitHawk is actually Iwog.
Nooo! Really?
The Pedo of PatNet is back!
OK Im taking this for my avatar. Kinda blurry. Any other insult images that I find funny, I will also take as my avatar. Have at it.
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Glock-n-Load
2025 May 15, 8:36pm
DeficitHawk says
Maybe you’re just “A”pocalypse”Fuck”?
Patrick says
I'm now pretty sure DeficitHawk is actually Iwog.
Maybe I am actually ApocalypseFuck.
Maybe you’re just “A”pocalypse”Fuck”?
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Fortwaye
2025 May 15, 9:26pm
Glock-n-Load says
only way to find out is to ask him how he feels about realtors.
DeficitHawk says
Patrick says
I'm now pretty sure DeficitHawk is actually Iwog.
Maybe I am actually ApocalypseFuck.
Maybe you’re just “A”pocalypse”Fuck”?
only way to find out is to ask him how he feels about realtors.
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DeficitHawk
2025 May 15, 9:53pm
DeficitHawk
2025 May 15, 9:53pm
Fortwaye says
RIP THEIR HEADS OFF AND SHIT DOWN THEIR THROATS!!! BELT FED AMMO AND YAMS!!!
only way to find out is to ask him how he feels about realtors.
RIP THEIR HEADS OFF AND SHIT DOWN THEIR THROATS!!! BELT FED AMMO AND YAMS!!!
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Ceffer
2025 May 15, 10:08pm
Ceffer
2025 May 15, 10:08pm
Fortwaye says
You can summon ApocalypseFuck by repeating three times in front of a mirror: "Trump and the Deutsche Bank Russian Debentures".
Maybe you’re just “A”pocalypse”Fuck”?
only way to find out is to ask him how he feels about realtors.
You can summon ApocalypseFuck by repeating three times in front of a mirror: "Trump and the Deutsche Bank Russian Debentures".
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Fortwaye
2025 May 16, 5:40am
DeficitHawk says
we are in agreement
Fortwaye says
only way to find out is to ask him how he feels about realtors.
RIP THEIR HEADS OFF AND SHIT DOWN THEIR THROATS!!! BELT FED AMMO AND YAMS!!!
we are in agreement
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Patrick
2025 May 17, 1:16pm
Patrick
2025 May 17, 1:16pm
https://slaynews.com/news/leftist-prosecutor-gives-illegal-alien-teen-slap-wrist-killing-young-american-woman/
A far-left Democrat prosecutor has offered an illegal alien teenager a cushy plea deal for killing an innocent 24-year-old American woman.
The Colombian teen will not serve any jail time after receiving a slap on the wrist for killing Kaitlyn Weaver from Colorado.
The 15-year-old killer has not been publicly named because of state laws that shield the identity of underage criminal suspects.
The teen killed Weaver during a shocking high-speed car crash.
John Weaver, the victim’s father, revealed that his daughter’s killer was sentenced to two years’ probation and 100 hours of community service.
The office of Arapahoe County District Attorney Amy Padden offered the teen a plea deal if he admitted his guilt in the deadly July 2024 crash.
Padden is a self-described “progressive” Democrat.
She received endorsements from prominent leftists, including Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Colorado’s Democrat Gov. Jared Polis.
The teen was racing his Jeep with other kids at speeds of 90 mph in a residential neighborhood in the Denver suburb of Aurora.
He then T-boned Weaver’s vehicle at an intersection, her father said.
“It was an instantaneous death,” John Weaver revealed.
Kaitlyn Weaver was waiting at a stop sign and speaking to her boyfriend on speakerphone at the time she was struck, he said.
She was kept on life support for two days before she was taken off, and her organs were donated.
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stereotomy
2025 May 17, 1:44pm
stereotomy
2025 May 17, 1:44pm
Liberal bitches don't care about anyone else's children except their own, whom they promptly brainwash to become trannies and lop off their dicks or tits.
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Patrick
2025 May 17, 10:52pm
Patrick
2025 May 17, 10:52pm
https://www.amren.com/news/2025/05/claudia-sheinbaum-denounces-proposed-us-remittance-tax-as-unacceptable/
Sounds like a good idea to me. Cutting into the money they can send back to Mexico discourages them from coming here and driving down wages for US citizens.
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has denounced a provision in a tax bill being considered in the United States Congress that would impose duties on remittances — a term used to describe the money people send abroad for non-commercial reasons, often as gifts to family and loved ones.
On Thursday, during her morning news conference, Sheinbaum addressed the tax bill directly, calling the remittances proposal “a measure that is unacceptable”.
Sounds like a good idea to me. Cutting into the money they can send back to Mexico discourages them from coming here and driving down wages for US citizens.
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WookieMan
2025 May 18, 3:43am
WookieMan
2025 May 18, 3:43am
Patrick says
It's alway been a good idea. Corporations will still do it for trade and I'd say it'd be okay if you have a college aged adult going to school in a foreign country. Keep the money here and it will get spent. Send it to Mexico or wherever and it gets spent there.
No American citizen really needs to send PERSONAL money outside of America. Mexico is the biggie though. I'd bet 20-30% of that money sent back by illegals is just taken by the cartels. Buy a new house down there and someone is knocking on your door in a week, "where's my cut?"
Point is it's a double whammy if we keep the money here. Gets spent here, and it's another layer in putting the cartel and drug smuggling down. Work around though is just sending and mailing preloaded cards. Could tax wire transfers, but people will just do what I mentioned. Other way is a credit card with no international fees and pay it up here. Illegal gets the bill but everything is bought in the other county.
It's a complicated topic with work arounds.
Sounds like a good idea to me. Cutting into the money they can send back to Mexico discourages them from coming here and driving down wages for US citizens.
It's alway been a good idea. Corporations will still do it for trade and I'd say it'd be okay if you have a college aged adult going to school in a foreign country. Keep the money here and it will get spent. Send it to Mexico or wherever and it gets spent there.
No American citizen really needs to send PERSONAL money outside of America. Mexico is the biggie though. I'd bet 20-30% of that money sent back by illegals is just taken by the cartels. Buy a new house down there and someone is knocking on your door in a week, "where's my cut?"
Point is it's a double whammy if we keep the money here. Gets spent here, and it's another layer in putting the cartel and drug smuggling down. Work around though is just sending and mailing preloaded cards. Could tax wire transfers, but people will just do what I mentioned. Other way is a credit card with no international fees and pay it up here. Illegal gets the bill but everything is bought in the other county.
It's a complicated topic with work arounds.
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AmericanKulak
2025 May 18, 6:18pm
AmericanKulak
2025 May 18, 6:18pm
Patrick says
External revenue service! It will also give us a great idea of how many illegals are in the country by comparing it to the estimates of legal immigrants. I have a feeling a 10% remittance tax would be astounding.
I think Remittances are a top 3 source of income of Mexico, on the same level as oil and resources. Ironic that Mexico taxes remittances TO Mexico but gets mad if we tax money leaving OUR soil.
It's wild we have 25% of the world's consumer base but our tax system is based around taxing American productivity.
Sounds like a good idea to me. Cutting into the money they can send back to Mexico discourages them from coming here and driving down wages for US citizens.
External revenue service! It will also give us a great idea of how many illegals are in the country by comparing it to the estimates of legal immigrants. I have a feeling a 10% remittance tax would be astounding.
I think Remittances are a top 3 source of income of Mexico, on the same level as oil and resources. Ironic that Mexico taxes remittances TO Mexico but gets mad if we tax money leaving OUR soil.
It's wild we have 25% of the world's consumer base but our tax system is based around taxing American productivity.
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Patrick
2025 May 19, 11:42am
Patrick
2025 May 19, 11:42am
https://counter-currents.com/2025/05/immigration-and-economics-truth-misconceptions-and-lies/
The Culture Transplant: How Migrants Make the Economies They Move to a Lot Like the Ones They Left
Stanford University Press, 2022
Even from a purely economic perspective, there is good reason to be much more discriminating in choosing what type of people make up our country.
Mr. Jones, an associate professor of economics at George Mason University, begins by rejecting the idea that immigrants simply assimilate to their host country. He does this in a race-neutral manner, setting the tone for the rest of the book. It is obvious he would rather not think in racial terms and is embarrassed by the failures of diversity. However, the implications remain clear enough.
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Patrick
2025 May 20, 8:37am
Patrick
2025 May 20, 8:37am
https://www.news-journal.com/ice-sanciona-con-1-8-millones-de-d-lares-a-inmigrante-hondure-a-por-ignorar/article_04d9c639-a802-51f6-87d9-7fd892aeacf2.html
A 41 year old Honduran woman, who lived illegally in the US for more than three decades, is facing a civil fine of $1,821,350 for not complying with a deportation order issued nearly 20 years ago, according to CBS News.
Translated that myself, correcting the deliberately misleading term "undocumented" to the correct term "illegally". Been studying Spanish lately.
Florida – Una mujer hondureña de 41 años, que ha vivido indocumentada en Estados Unidos durante más de tres décadas, enfrenta una multa civil de 1.821.350 dólares por no cumplir una orden de deportación emitida hace casi 20 años, según informó CBS News.
A 41 year old Honduran woman, who lived illegally in the US for more than three decades, is facing a civil fine of $1,821,350 for not complying with a deportation order issued nearly 20 years ago, according to CBS News.
Translated that myself, correcting the deliberately misleading term "undocumented" to the correct term "illegally". Been studying Spanish lately.
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