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2025 Jan 31, 4:07pm   90 views  6 comments

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Lotsa proaganda now about absolute tards ruling over humans, etc.

My read of history, including many broad surveys of entire kingdoms and Empires, be it Britain or Byzantium... is that most Kings/Emperors are selfish idiots, not Divinely Appointed. Of course Reax will say it's all colored by Whig History, it's my read of everything including Gibbon to de Maistre to Burke.

The Good ones are generally the ones who by personal Charisma and Merit overthrow the last Dynasty. If you're lucky the heir and his heir. There are entire dynasties that suck, for example the Stuarts.

A career path very much like the BEST leaders of all, popular despots like Caesar or Cromwell, but since they're rare and generally created by hardship or extreme political division

Reading a history of Napoleon that delved into the characteristics of all his foes, and from Frederick the Corporal, Archduke of Austria, and especially both the father King and son King of Spain, complete pompous twits with inbred IQ. Only Czar Alexander was worth a damn.

The ideal form of government is a Federated Constitutional Republic with the National Government having BARELY enough income and power to run a centralized military campaign to defend itself and the near abroad, facilitate some physical infrastructure, and to keep subunits from violating constitutional rights.I also think a per capita income for the Federal Government is superior, since it prevents the government from growing beyond a certain level.

By the way, that pompous Fettsack Hegel, father of all shitty ideology since the mid 19th, had a flaw with his dialectic of history - his dialectic of the rise of Constitutional Government excluded the United States in the "Process of History", though it preceeded the French Revolution, his exemplar of the Historical Dialectic at play. I'd also not my beloved curmudgeon Schoepenhauer thought he was a largely incomprehensible pompous dolt. Aristotle is vastly superior to Plato and all the forms of his 'ideal form'.

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1   Patrick   2025 Jan 31, 4:31pm  

From my own reading, I've concluded that the quality of the citizens is far more important than the quality of their leaders, and they will get good leaders anyway if they are good citizens.

The Roman Republic is a great example of unity (not diversity!), integrity, and dedication to Rome. They were incorruptible and quite willing to die for Rome. King Pyrrhus tried to bribe some of Rome's leading men, but failed. Gaius Mucius Scaevola, after being captured by the enemy, stuck his hand in a fire to show how little he was intimidated. Publius Horatius Cocles held off invaders at the narrow end of a bridge to Rome and told the others to destroy the bridge behind him, which they did. Many such stories.

As the Romans admitted more and more foreigners to citizenship, they lost their unity, integrity, and dedication. Everything continued to run for quite a while, but the old motivations were gone and the empire eventually collapsed.
2   HeadSet   2025 Jan 31, 7:11pm  

Patrick says

From my own reading, I've concluded that the quality of the citizens is far more important than the quality of their leaders, and they will get good leaders anyway if they are good citizens.

Yep, as honest folks would never elect an Adam Schiff.
3   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Jan 31, 7:20pm  

HeadSet says

Patrick says


From my own reading, I've concluded that the quality of the citizens is far more important than the quality of their leaders, and they will get good leaders anyway if they are good citizens.

Yep, as honest folks would never elect an Adam Schiff.


You have no idea. These are the same people that know literally no conservatives and run around calling them stupid.

Can’t imagine ever voting for someone like Schiff.
4   Patrick   2025 Jan 31, 7:22pm  

Pretty sure that voting in California is corrupt, so how Californians vote is irrelevant.
5   AmericanKulak   2025 Jan 31, 7:33pm  

Patrick says

As the Romans admitted more and more foreigners to citizenship, they lost their unity, integrity, and dedication. Everything continued to run for quite a while, but the old motivations were gone and the empire eventually collapsed.

... and the Optimates brought them in, first as slaves.
6   OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething   2025 Jan 31, 11:53pm  

Patrick says

From my own reading, I've concluded that the quality of the citizens is far more important than the quality of their leaders,


During the Constitutional Convention in Philly:

Lady on the street accosted Ben Franklin and asked, "Mr. Franklin! What form of government will we have, sir?"

Franklin: "A Republic my dear lady. If we can keep it."

https://patrick.net/post/1381793/2024-08-03-a-republic-if-you-can-remember-it

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