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Massie - tough rules for Trump, big leeway for McCarthy and Biden

Show me some proof of the difference.

I got the impression that Massie always votes no on spending increases.

Trump says he needs it, then he needs it. Trump has been hamstrung, thwarted, and second guessed at every turn. Especially by turn coat RINOs.
My trust level for Trump at this point, is ten fold what it is for Massie. The CR bill passes every year, and it hasn't killed the world yet. Now is not the time to be playing the sensible person against Trump. Trump deserves the CR passed, then the time to criticize will be if he does four years, and we're not reflecting on any brilliant maneuvers that came out of it.

This isn't any ordinary CR bill. Closing the government is pointless at this point, as DOGE is whittling it down, but by not passing the CR, then much of Trump's auxiliary efforts that supports everything DOGE does, may also get axed. Now DOGE knows how Congress and Pork operates, perhaps Trump is setting tracking on the CR. By monitoring where the money is going, will build his case when DOGE starts cutting whole agencies and their budgets.

It's time Trump get's 100% support, and quit with the second guessing. Let them man finish one Goddamn song, without interrupting him, and killing the PA.

He does so much with so much opposition and stifling of his efforts. Just imagine what he can do, if we let him accomplish his whole agenda, and stop cutting him off as soon as he's making astonishing results.

I mean at this point, even if only 20% of his agenda only gets done, and the other 80% failed not due to any opposing forces, but those decisions, not netting the expected result naturally. It would still be a better performance than any President in the last 50 to 60 years.

Fuck Massie!

Tenpoundbass says

Fuck Massie!

Massie didn't mean shit. The CR passed the House.

Misc says

Massie didn't mean shit. The CR passed the House.

Massie was part of a larger operation.
The Social media blowing up with fickle Trump Larpers bitching about Trump, and kissing Massie's ass.
Even in the Gateway and Breitbart article discussions. So much of it going on, it just reeks of regretful Trump voters, canard the unemployed NGOs are running.

Massie's part of it somehow, my spidey senses are never wrong.

Tenpoundbass says

This isn't any ordinary CR bill. Closing the government is pointless at this point, as DOGE is whittling it down, but by not passing the CR, then much of Trump's auxiliary efforts that supports everything DOGE does, may also get axed

It would have be axed. Rosa DeLauro and Dollar Store Obama Jeffreys already were on the MSM circuit this week gleefully rubbing their hands at a possible Republican fight that would kill Trumps momentum leading to a shutdown that would prevent DOGE from continuing to work on IDing waste and abuse.

government spending is the permanent inflation, which fucks the working class

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Well Catturd seems to confirm my above suspicions, as well does the replies.



https://x.com/catturd2/status/1899620089873490390

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/09/rep-thomas-massie-says-trump-is-at-fault-for-deadly-riot/6611721002/

The Weasel pulls the glibertarian version of AOC's "Terrified, Hiding Under Desk"

https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/gop-rep-massie-glad-he-was-armed-during-capitol-siege/

LOL, even Grok3/Deep Search has a hard time parsing Congressional Bills. I did a verification and found it was counting bills that had nothing to do with expenditure at all.

Tenpoundbass says

The Social media blowing up with fickle Trump Larpers bitching about Trump, and kissing Massie's ass.

There were a ton of like 54 follower accounts that hadn't posted in months or years suddenly reply guying starting February 24th. All on Massie and the CR.

Something like half the replies to Catturd and Unseen and DC Draino were bot-like/troll-ish accounts with an overweening focus on one or two issues.

Probably boiler room/bot farm accounts:

"Yes, we have the order from Wichita come in hour ago, please to have contract."

Only one of these men has gotten big things done


...despite being shot, impeached, having his home raided, property siezed, and subject to the greatest media smear campaign in generations.

The other one is a 12+ year Congressman who is famous for saying "NO" a lot and bragging what a libertarian he is on twitter.

This guy is an idiot and seems to be part of the Massie operation network.
This moron is trying to say that there was some conspiracy against Massie to remove him. Rather than what it was, Massie putting himself in a position to oppose Trump and vote in contrary to his record, by voting no on a CR. Also nothing about what Massie did has nothing to do with anything else Massie claims to have stood for. This asshole also said Massie was only one calling Bullshit on Covid. That is a lie, many GOP congress people were, the RINOs were lockstep in making it uncomfortable and unpopular to do anything about it. DeSantis blinked first, anyone says otherwise, is just rewriting History.


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Tenpoundbass says

Well Catturd seems to confirm my above suspicions, as well does the replies.



https://x.com/catturd2/status/1899620089873490390

i don’t believe it

https://genesiustimes.com/breaking-congress-narrowly-avoids-fiscal-responsibility-again/

Tenpoundbass says

Well Catturd seems to confirm my above suspicions, as well does the replies.



https://x.com/catturd2/status/1899620089873490390

See if you can find the actual Tweet from Massie.

Doesn't it seem odd that there's a sudden rush of discoveries just now about things Massie supposedly said, and that there are never any quotes in context with a link back?

Feels like the CIA turned its info-warfare cannon against the one guy opposed to eternal spending increases.

AmericanKulak says

Something like half the replies to Catturd and Unseen and DC Draino were bot-like/troll-ish accounts with an overweening focus on one or two issues.

I feel like it's just the opposite, and that the Massie supporters are all legit humans who like his principles and his refusal to back down.

Patrick says

Doesn't it seem odd that there's a sudden rush of discoveries just now about things Massie supposedly said, and that there are never any quotes in context with a link back?

I know Bannon made him persona non-grata years ago on War Room, and called him an "Effete Intellectual"


Note Massie's favorite issue to oppose. It comes up again and again.

I dunno looks like Massie has done well during Biden's presidency.

Had net wealth of $2.8 million back in 2018

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/thomas-massie/net-worth?cid=N00034041

Net wealth of $20 million today,

https://www.caclubindia.com/money/wealth/thomas-massie/

Not bad for a salary of $175k.

Agree with @Patrick here. I'm supportive of Trump, he's achieving a lot and we are still cutting spending massively. But it's ok to have dissent, no politician should be beholden to the party vote, only their conscience. There's a lot of bad stuff in the bill Patrick has unearthed, but not sweating it. If a majority is at stake because not everyone votes in line, then compromises need to be made, instead of castrating the dissenters. If you don't need to rely on their vote, push it through. Diplomacy 101

Let's List Massie's accomplishments. Verbiage and Twitter Gotchas not included. Actual things he got done or at least played a critical role in getting done during his 12 long years in the House.

AmericanKulak says

Let's List Massie's accomplishments. Verbiage and Twitter Gotchas not included. Actual things he got done or at least played a critical role in getting done during his 12 long years in the House.

I'll start: Cast the key dissenting vote to get the debt ceiling raise out of his committee for Biden-McCarthy, giving the government unlimited borrowing until Jan 1, 2025.

What about passing major legislation he wrote or co-wrote? That's the fucking job of Congress critters, after all.

Lol, Massie's great accomplishment is voting NO on bullshit bills over and over.

If every Congressman did that, we'd have the best Congress ever.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

What about passing major legislation he wrote or co-wrote? That's the fucking job of Congress critters, after all.

Correct. And legislation can defund or eliminate, not just create new rules or departments. Let's see what DC Draino says:

What if I told you there was a GOP Congressman in office for 12+ years who has never passed a single bill, didn’t believe there was election fraud in 2020, loves Mitch McConnell, raised Biden’s debt ceiling, and is against term limits

You’ll never guess who
https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1899448120754225171

Patrick says

Lol, Massie's great accomplishment is voting NO on bullshit bills over and over.

Which bills did he lead in the defeat of or cast the critical vote for?

"All Hat, No Cattle"

The government is a lurching zombie bankrupt corporation already. It's indebtedness is irrelevant. Trump needs ongoing operations to continue to apply his hatchets. Of course, his opponents at this point want to crash his vehicle because it is his vehicle and not theirs.

At some point, the virtual government will have to crash and burn and be reconstituted back to the Republic. Trump is in quasi Republic mode while still needing the wheezing, crooked old Guv Corp. for whatever it is worth for its infrastructures.

We the citizens of the mothballed Republic are not responsible for the Babylonian debt tactics of the Fed and the foreign corporations. Go ahead and hang the debts on them if it's practical to do so to buy time.

Soft on Borders Massie. Never letting the Urgent Good overcome the search for the Perfect in the undefined future.



"Uh, it gave University of Bumville a $5000 grant to research mating muttonbirds migrating from Manitoba, so I had to vote against not letting BP agents process border crossers and finish the wall. We have to be fiscally prudent. No spending on walls until the US National Debt is $0"

AmericanKulak says

It would have be axed. Rosa DeLauro and Dollar Store Obama Jeffreys already were on the MSM circuit this week gleefully rubbing their hands at a possible Republican fight that would kill Trumps momentum leading to a shutdown that would prevent DOGE from continuing to work on IDing waste and abuse.

Two days away from a federal guvmint shutdown deadline. We shall see.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5191954-senate-democrats-government-shutdown/

"Senate Democrats say privately that they will not allow the government to shut down Saturday, despite growing pressure from activists and liberal lawmakers who want them to kill a GOP-crafted six-month stopgap spending bill.

Senate Democratic sources say Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) is giving plenty of room to centrists in his caucus to vote for the House-passed continuing resolution (CR) if doing so is the only way to avoid a government shutdown at week’s end."

Misc says

I dunno looks like Massie has done well during Biden's presidency.

Had net wealth of $2.8 million back in 2018

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/thomas-massie/net-worth?cid=N00034041

Net wealth of $20 million today,

https://www.caclubindia.com/money/wealth/thomas-massie/

Not bad for a salary of $175k.

He has a load of inventions, which could explain it:
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/thomas-h-massie

Patrick says

Lol, Massie's great accomplishment is voting NO on bullshit bills over and over.

If every Congressman did that, we'd have the best Congress ever.

The Massie hate, as best I can tell, started after his Tucker Carlson interview. He pointed out that everyone in congress, Rep and Dem alike, has an “AIPAC guy” who takes them to lunch and advises them how to vote. AIPAC doesn’t fund directly, but controls a large network of donors. He also noted the lobbying group, Christians for Israel, is an aipac creation. Not grassroots, though it poses as such.

Patrick says

See if you can find the actual Tweet from Massie

He probably deleted the post. He did post what Catturd claims, I saw it and checked it off as a cat fight between whiners.

there’s entire machinery lately shitting on Massie. i already know that is all bullshit, it was always bullshit before. just means he pissed off some wealthy people.

i literally believe nothing i read these days.