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Wonder if judge was a homo Freemason. It would explain a lot.

DeficitHawk says

But even still, I was NOT here advocating to take away the bill of rights protections from the J6'ers.

You literally said that the J6ers all received due process despite years in jail before seeing a judge.

Robert Sproul says

Really?
I for one voted a straight D ticket my whole life until very recently.

He isn't honest or is such a Team Player it's pointless.

He thinks J6ers were "violent"
He thinks solitary confinement pending charges was "Due Process" and perfectly fine.
Probably thinks that Trump committed a crime by "Fooling" a dozen elite, world-expert level Deutsche Bank financiers into lending him money, which he repaid early. Nevermind the lenders in their own internal documents called the collateral "some of the best they've ever seen".

In short, he's a typical MSNBC Leftist, not at all moderate. That's why I'm harsh on him.

BTW, anybody remember the multiple Left Wing terror attacks on SCOTUS judges after their abortion and student loan rulings?

And how the media was portraying it as "Regrettable, but understandable anger at injustice" with no mention of "Rule of Law"?

AmericanKulak says

he's a typical MSNBC Leftist,

Maybe we'll see a selfie of the Rachel Maddow tattoo.

Patrick says

I highly doubt most Dems or leftist travel to central America. I was in Belize less than a month ago. Massive nothing burger and users here threw some BS at me like it was some dangerous place right before covid. 100% false.

I'd guess maybe 1% of Americans even travel to Central America. Been to Costa and Belize now. It's safer than Chicago, DC, Louisville, LA, etc. Jamaica, Dominican, PR, St. Thomas, etc.

WookieMan says

I highly doubt most Dems or leftist travel to central America. I was in Belize less than a month ago. Massive nothing burger and users here threw some BS at me like it was some dangerous place right before covid. 100% false.

I'd guess maybe 1% of Americans even travel to Central America. Been to Costa and Belize now. It's safer than Chicago, DC, Louisville, LA, etc. Jamaica, Dominican, PR, St. Thomas, etc.

Went to Belize by cruise ship Norwegian Dawn and loved it for the few hours there ; toured the Mayan ruins.

I agree on your assessment of Belize.
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DeficitHawk says

Well, I dont agree. I dont want to abandon checks and balances. I dont want the courts ignored. I dont want the constitution abandoned. I dont want the country you are describing. Im not going to encourage it, and Im going to advocate against it.

What don’t you understand? We’re already there. You can’t be that ignorant.

@AmericanKulak. You’re kill’n it.

WookieMan says

Patrick says

I highly doubt most Dems or leftist travel to central America. I was in Belize less than a month ago. Massive nothing burger and users here threw some BS at me like it was some dangerous place right before covid. 100% false.

I'd guess maybe 1% of Americans even travel to Central America. Been to Costa and Belize now. It's safer than Chicago, DC, Louisville, LA, etc. Jamaica, Dominican, PR, St. Thomas, etc.

Bukele has made El Salvador the safest country in Central America. It used to be scary there!

Glock-n-Load says

AmericanKulak. You’re kill’n it.

Thanks GnL.

They don't realize the "push beyond boundaries when we're in, muh due process and narrowest reading when we're out" game is over. Everybody sees it now.

The only time they are granted the dignity of 'due process' is when they are so dangerous they must be imprisoned for life and they aren't just dropped off in their point of origin.

Ceffer says

The only time they are granted the dignity of 'due process' is when they are so dangerous they must be imprisoned for life and they aren't just dropped off in their point of origin.

This thread and due process, christ. Not you Ceffer. He wasn't in the country legally and not a citizen. Due process is not necessary.

The one cat can cite law, but it doesn't matter. There are other laws that allow Trump to do what he did. Move on. Anyone upset by this should be deported to Antartica. Get over it. He was a wife beating gang banger. Due process my ass as a big time tax payer. Get him out 5 years ago.

DeficitHawk says

a matter of immigration laws.

Why do you want foreign gang members that entered illegally in the United States?

DeficitHawk says

Thats just the result of an election.

I'm curious. Are you vaxxed?

DeficitHawk says

I am a leftist on this forum

And it is appreciated.

We usually scare your kind away.

Nobody's defending "Maryland Man" anymore.

Due process:
"Abrego Garcia already had a hearing at which the judge found evidence that he was an MS-13 member. It was not only based on his being arrested with MS-13 gang members and wearing clothing associated with the gang. It was also based on a confidential source connected to the gang. After losing at his hearing, Abrego Garcia then lost on appeal."

Gang Member:
“Per the Prince Georges County Police Gang Unit, ABREGO-Garcia was validated as a member of the Mara Salvatrucha (MS13) Gang. Subject was identified as a member of the Mara Salvatrucha MS-13, “Chequeo” from the Western Clique a transnational criminal street gang. This information was provided by tested source who has provided truthful accurate information in the past. See Prince Georges County Police Department (Gang Sheet).”

Human trafficer:
“On Dec. 1, 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped by the Tennessee Highway Patrol for speeding. Upon approach to the vehicle, the encountering officer noted eight other individuals in the vehicle. There was no luggage in the vehicle, leading the encountering officer to suspect this was a human trafficking incident. Additionally, all the passengers gave the same home address as the subject’s home address. During the interview, Abrego Garcia pretended to speak less English than he was capable of and attempted to put the encountering officer off-track by responding to questions with questions. When asked what relationship he had with the registered owner of the vehicle, Abrego Garcia replied that the owner of the vehicle is his boss, and that he worked in construction…

The encountering officer decided not to cite the subject for driving infractions but gave him a warning citation for driving with an expired driver’s license. Abrego Garcia’s driver’s license was a MD “Limited Term Temporary” license. The encountering officer gathered names of other occupants in the vehicle but could not read their handwriting. The officer did not pursue further information due to no citation being issued.”

https://jonathanturley.org/2025/04/24/npr-abrego-garcia-was-living-quietly-in-maryland-before-he-was-deported/

https://x.com/amuse/status/1915442214051684588

It just gets better as left pushed it's Idiocracy.

I think Trump may be lighting up the corrupt judiciary on purpose like a christmas tree on a pinball machine for future actions.

He can trace their comms and orders to look up their hierarchies to the real bosses. So, many provocations for these captured judges to rat themselves out? Hmmmm. One would hopium.

Finally, an arrest, however paltry. Don't stroke out fans.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/it-begins-saturday-april-26-2025

Speaking of removed judges, remember New Mexico Judge Juan “Joel” Cano, who let a 23-year-old Tren de Aragua gang member live for free in his guest house? The FBI arrested him yesterday, too, along with his wife, ‘Nancy.’ You won’t believe what they charged the now-former judge with.

In March, HSI (Homeland Security Investigations) arrested Venezuelan illegal alien and guesthouse resident Cristhian Ortega-Lopez, who is suspected of being in Tren de Aragua — a notorious, ultra-violent criminal gang that’s basically the Venezuelan version of MS-13. They nabbed him at Judge Cano’s home, where the family had both put him up and given him assault weapons to play with.

When FBI arrested him, they found Ortega had multiple cellphones. Afterwards, agents realized that one phone was missing. They realized this after Ortega told them. (They’d offered to let him make a phone call and gave him the phones they’d seized; Ortega said the one he wanted to use wasn’t there.) So this week, they returned to the Cano household with a new search warrant.

I promise I am not making this next part up.

During his FBI interview, former judge Cano —after being Mirandized— straight-up confessed that he’d found Ortega’s missing cellphone, smashed it with a hammer, and threw it in a city dumpster. Cano explained he did it because he knew it had pictures and videos of Ortega with guns— which were direct evidence of federal gun crimes and gang activity.

Cano’s confession is such an unlikely and improbable fact that you should see the allegation for yourself:

7. Specifically, Jose Cano stated that he destroyed the cellphone and further admitted that he
believed the cellphone contained photos or videos that would reflect negatively on
Ortega. Through further questioning, agents ascertained that Jose Cano destroyed the
cellphone believing that it contained photographs of Ortega holding firearms that Ortega
had uploaded onto social media platforms which would be additional incriminating
evidence against him.

It’s hard to reckon how a long-time judge would agree to talk to FBI agents at all, much less after getting his Miranda warnings and without a lawyer. Regular readers will recall that, when I first reported this story, I suggested Judge Cano should have already retained a good criminal defense lawyer. All I can say now is, he should’ve read C&C.

Cano didn’t just smash a phone; he smashed his oath, his robes, and his integrity. Yesterday, in the harsh morning light of the bright Las Cruces sun, FBI agents arrested Cano and charged him with destroying evidence to protect a defendant (18 USC §1512). The charge allows up to 20 years in prison. As a first-time offender, he’d probably only get 12-24 months, but the sentencing guidelines require enhancement for cartel involvement.

Cano is in deep doo-doo. Regardless of whatever happens in the criminal case, he admitted destroying evidence of crimes— a violation of ethics that virtually requires disbarment. New Mexico’s Supremes already barred him from ever again serving as a judge, so his law license is almost certainly a goner.

Here’s a link to the federal complaint against former Judge Cano.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9gj8n9ie7jwgo4q7gfwqm/Doc.-01-USA-v.-Cano-Complaint.pdf?rlkey=ufcqz8pnlh607vh4i79z8rchv&e=1&dl=0

Was it a gay thing?

RWSGFY says

Was it a gay thing?

I think MS-13 with all of the thuggery and Satanism is full of gay stuff. In Latin America, it is alleged culturally that you aren't considered gay as long as you always assume the dominant sexual position with passive homosexual/tranny partners. I would imagine in prison hierarchies, it is a similar ethic.

There's also the 'Soros Qualification' for the judge: the weakest, the weirdest, the most absurdly corrupted, the most morally culpable, the craziest, the most perverted etc. etc.

Allegedly, the FBI hired MS-13 to murder Seth Rich and then murdered the assassins. They are a ready and available gangster mercenary group.

There is still an MS-13 group in Santa Cruz living behind one of my friend's house. They get raided periodically, but they are still there I heard. How and why, I have no idea, except that it smacks of some kind of official 'protection'.

https://nypost.com/2025/04/30/us-news/kilmar-abrego-garcia-bragged-he-could-kill-his-wife-and-get-away-with-it-court-docs/

Kilmar Abrego Garcia bragged he could kill his wife and get away with it, she claimed in newly unearthed protective order request

Alleged MS-13 member Kilmar Abrego Garcia once boasted he could kill his wife and “no one could do anything to him,” according to a request for a motion for a protective order she filed in 2020.

“I also have a [recording] that [he] told my ex-mother-in-law that even if he kills me no one can do anything to him,” Jennifer Vasquez Sura, wrote in the document she filed with the District Court of Maryland for Prince George’s County on Aug. 3, 2020. ...

Ceffer says

I think MS-13 with all of the thuggery and Satanism is full of gay stuff. In Latin America, it is alleged cultrually that you aren't considered gay as long as you always assume the dominant sexual position with passive homosexual/tranny partners. I would imagine in prison hierarchies, it is a similar ethic.

Ancient Med viewpoint, btw. You can be the Legate if you are the pitcher, but not the catcher, that's a scandal.

DeficitHawk says

I participate here as the lonely moderate voice, in an experiment to see whether it is possible to bridge gaps. But I get discouraged

Looks like we lost @DeficitHawk

I wonder, Do we lose leftist posters because of cognitive dissonance?

His Knuckle tats are 110% MS-13, too. But libbies never let a preponderance of evidence get in the way of siding with the undesirable alien or criminal.

Onvacation says

DeficitHawk says

I participate here as the lonely moderate voice, in an experiment to see whether it is possible to bridge gaps. But I get discouraged

Looks like we lost DeficitHawk

I wonder, Do we lose leftist posters because of cognitive dissonance?

How do we know that posters such as these aren't "AI" bots? I think they're testing the bots out on various websites to calibrate them and make their responses seem more plausibly human authentic. Look at the breaking scandal over on Reddit, where certain subreddits were used to test "AI" chatbots.

I apply quotes to signify that I think it's a scam.

AmericanKulak says

His Knuckle tats are 110% MS-13, too. But libbies never let a preponderance of evidence get in the way of siding with the undesirable alien or criminal.

Honestly they just might be too dumb? Or brainwashed? I mean you're in a gang if most of your body is tattooed outside of some athletes. And they're probably still in a gang. I can't remember stories, but I believe a few pro athletes have been implicated in gang activity.

Onvacation says

wonder, Do we lose leftist posters because of cognitive dissonance?

It's happened here for a while, you know this. They come in and cannot defend their position. I swear, but outside that I try to tell the facts I know and see. Once they're caught with their pants down they leave. No accountably. I've been wrong here and have owned it. Either way it's just a website. Not losing sleep over it.

Left and right like their echo chambers. I don't think EV's are good. I do think renewable power (solar & wind) can be supplemental power, not primary but I don't want to pay for it. Let homeowners do it.

We lost the likes of Dan, Iwog, Nuttboxer over stupid shit. They were wrong on their ideas and left the site. They did have some good thoughts though. I don't get why you'd tuck and run. If you don't like the user, ignore is there. I have plenty...

Onvacation says

I wonder, Do we lose leftist posters because of cognitive dissonance?

No. You lose us because there is not much productive discourse that keeps us participating.

The topic of concern here is whether this person should get due process before being deported/incarcerated.

But no one really wants to talk about this subject. People just throw memes, and make fun of lefties. IF the topic wanders anywhere close to due process, it becomes some shitshow of whataboutisms where you say "whatabout this totally unrelated person/case I like that I dont think was treated fairly in the past", as if some historical occurrence of failure of due process is a good rationale to advocate for depriving others of due process in the future.

If you cant acknowledge that due process is warranted for people you dont like as well as people you like, then there just isn't much productive discussion to have with you. I may as well be talking to a rock, and there is nothing satisfying about the experience for me. That's why you lose our participation.

But if it makes you feel better, you can pretend I have to go hide in my basement due to my cognitive dissonance.

DeficitHawk says

If you cant acknowledge that due process is warranted for people you dont like as well as people you like

I think people here do - for Americans. It's not like we're killing them, just sending them back.