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Global/Globull Warming Thread


               
2025 Oct 6, 5:14pm   9,317 views  1,497 comments

by MolotovCocktail   follow (4)  




( Previous Globull Warming threads were merged into this one on 7 Oct 2025. See https://patrick.net/post/1210872/2012-04-02-patrick-net-suggestions?start=624#comment-2213087 )

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1135   MolotovCocktail   2024 Nov 21, 2:26pm  

HeadSet says

Gore is laughing as he long ago cashed the checks.


And Limbaugh is dead.
1140   WookieMan   2024 Nov 24, 11:35am  

Doesn't CO2 help things grow? Science was never my subject I was even average at, so I might sound like an idiot. So rainforest are cut down. How do they grow?
1143   MolotovCocktail   2024 Nov 29, 1:23pm  

https://bearsbulletins.substack.com/p/landman

Video clip of Billy Bob Thornton setting a Greentard chick straight about fossil fuels.
1144   Patrick   2024 Nov 30, 10:38am  

https://tc.copernicus.org/articles/18/2141/2024/tc-18-2141-2024.pdf




... the large interannual-to-decadal variability in Antarctic sea ice makes this analysis inconclusive about the sign or pattern of Antarctic sea ice response to anthropogenic forcing over the historical period.


The paper seems to be saying that sea ice varies a lot anyway, and that variation can't be certainly linked to human activity.
1145   Patrick   2024 Nov 30, 10:43am  

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/03/05/study-polar-bear-numbers-reach-new-highs-population-increases-to-the-highest-levels-in-decades/


A new paper written by zoologist Dr Susan Crockford to mark International Polar Bear Day today has found that global polar bear numbers have continued to rise. Numbers have been steadily increasing since 2005, with 2018 data estimating the highest number of polar bears globally since they were protected by international treaty in 1973.
1146   Tenpoundbass   2024 Nov 30, 10:47am  

Man makes an apparatus to observe something in the natural world that has never been measured nor observed ever before.
One week later, shockwaves are sent through the Scientific community as a published paper from some grifting unaccountable unaudited institute stating that it's worse it's ever been, and the last time it was anywhere near this bad was 100 years ago.

This is the constant pattern of Climate Doomers, and it was that reason alone that I was calling BULLSHIT on the global warming, climate change bullshit, since the 90's. I've been there all along giving those lying bastards the riot act of the scam of bullshit they were feeding. Then after Al cry me a river Gore was gloom and dooming global warming. I was mostly alone, 90% of everyone on the planet was fully brainwashed to believe every last word of the inconvenient truth. I was a lone voice in early Patnet days. You wouldn't believe the charts I had to wade through.

By time Covid came around and everyone was so damn willing to muzzle themselves and stand 6 feet from the nearest person. I knew I saw that behavior before.

Cha... If everyone can stop being gullible fucks, that would be great!
1147   Patrick   2024 Nov 30, 11:07am  

I asked gab.ai about Hunga Tonga and the Baltic:

Tell me about the Hunga Tonga eruption's effect on Baltic sea ice.

The Hunga Tonga eruption on January 15, 2022 had a significant impact on the climate and atmosphere, which in turn affected the sea ice conditions in the Baltic Sea. The eruption released an enormous amount of energy, water vapor, sulfur dioxide, and other gases into the stratosphere. This caused a temporary cooling effect as the sulfur particles interacted with sunlight, reflecting some of it back into space and reducing the amount of solar radiation reaching the Earth's surface. This cooling effect was observed in various parts of the world, including the Baltic Sea region. The cooling influence from the eruption likely contributed to the formation and thickening of sea ice in the Baltic Sea during the months following the eruption. In addition, the atmospheric disturbances caused by the eruption, such as changes in wind patterns and air pressure, can also influence sea ice growth and distribution. These factors, combined with the usual seasonal cooling in the region, led to the formation of more extensive and thicker sea ice in the Baltic Sea later in 2022.


Huh, I also read recently that because water vapor is a greenhouse gas, the Hunga Tonga explosion made the earth warmer. Supposedly that one explosion increased atmospheric water vapor by 10% globally, which is a really huge change. So maybe it first made the earth cooler by blocking sun, then later hotter because water vapor is a greenhouse gas.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9285945/

In contrast, the H2O injection was unprecedented in both magnitude (far exceeding any previous values in the 17‐year MLS record) and altitude (penetrating into the mesosphere). We estimate the mass of H2O injected into the stratosphere to be 146 ± 5 Tg, or ∼10% of the stratospheric burden. It may take several years for the H2O plume to dissipate. This eruption could impact climate not through surface cooling due to sulfate aerosols, but rather through surface warming due to the radiative forcing from the excess stratospheric H2O.


gab.ai is actually blocked at the Peets Coffee where I am right now, because it is too politically incorrect for whomever is in control of the wifi. So I had to tether to my phone to query gab.ai here. I find more and more that whole websites are blocked by wifi in various public places for political reasons.
1148   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2024 Nov 30, 11:38am  

Patrick says

A new paper written by zoologist Dr Susan Crockford to mark International Polar Bear Day today has found that global polar bear numbers have continued to rise. Numbers have been steadily increasing since 2005, with 2018 data estimating the highest number of polar bears globally since they were protected by international treaty in 1973.

Santa Cruz could use some right now to help with the over abundance of elephant seals.
1149   WookieMan   2024 Nov 30, 11:52am  

I know we have a few Florida users here. The state should be underwater by all estimates from the 90's. It's the same. The barrier island I went to annually in the panhandle for 35 years hasn't changed and got smashed by 2-3 hurricanes in that time with heavy erosion.

Sea level moves with tectonic plate movement. Not ice, rain or temperature. Sure we might get more rain. But even the hurricanes have been lame, and just heavy rain being the biggest problem. They seem less frequent. The evaporation has been more and places see 20" plus of rain. The winds really haven't been a problem lately.

Was just in tropical storm Sara for the tail end in Mexico. An average midwest thunderstorm is exponentially worse than my first tropical storm experience. We were just walking around outside with raincoats on. No lightening risk. Breezy, maybe 50mph gusts. Fell asleep on the balcony outside during it. Natural rain and wind/tree noise is the most peaceful white noise you can get.... along with a bunch of beer. Slept in a hammock too. Best sleep that trip.

God damn Mexicans and their marble though. Fucking ice skating rink. I was good but saw at least a dozen people biff it hard falling on wet tile outdoors. Like potential bone breakers and staff needing to assist them. I brought my Merrill hiking shoes and had great traction. I don't prep at home, but I'm a vacation prepper. Especially in tourist areas where it's 2-5X's the price at home.
1151   stereotomy   2024 Nov 30, 9:07pm  

Undersea vulcanism has been injecting trillions of tons of water vapor into the atmosphere. Water vapor is at least an order of magnitude greater than CO2 in terms of greenhouse warming. Where are the undersea volcanic eruptions in the current climate models? No fucking where.

To paraphrase "Glengarry Glenn Ross," the models are WEAK.
1153   Patrick   2024 Dec 9, 10:43am  

https://dailysceptic.org/2024/12/09/massive-cover-up-launched-by-u-k-met-office-to-hide-its-103-non-existent-temperature-measuring-stations/


Last month, the Daily Sceptic highlighted the practice at the U.K. Met Office of inventing temperature averages from over 100 non-existent measuring stations. Helpfully, the Met Office went so far as to supply coordinates, elevations and purposes of the imaginary sites. Following massive interest across social media and frequent reposting of the Daily Sceptic article, the Met Office has amended its ludicrous claims. The move has not been announced in public, needless to say, since drawing attention to this would open a pandora’s box and run the risk of subjecting all the Met Office temperature claims to wider scrutiny. Instead, the Met Office has discreetly renamed its “U.K. climate averages” page as “Location-specific long-term averages”.
1160   MolotovCocktail   2024 Dec 13, 11:05am  




Visegrád 24 also quoted Sweden’s deputy prime minister and energy minister, Ebba Busch, as being “furious with the Germans.” The article continued, explaining that due to Germany’s decision to shutter its nuclear plants, “people in southern Sweden and southern Norway now have [to] pay $5 for a 10-minute shower.”

https://robertbryce.substack.com/p/germany-gets-dunkelfked-again-norway
1162   WookieMan   2024 Dec 14, 9:30am  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says





I mean we are what? 98.6ºF. Probably should be about what we exhaust.

I don't get why warming is bad. Never understood it. Water level changes by the movement of tectonic plates. Of the land (soil) with ice it's a nothing burger if it melts. If anything places like Canada get a better or longer growing season. I don't get when people don't understand ground water. Unfrozen tundra can now absorb 80% of the precipitation allowing more growth. It doesn't go into oceans.

All water level change is almost exclusively because of land movement. And IWOGS old wet bulb BS. So you go outside in a sauna. Come inside to your AC. Our biggest threat is not having enough electric more than anything. Erosion and shit will happen on shorelines, but that's not water level rise.

Either way they've been wrong for at least 50 years at this point.
1164   REpro   2024 Dec 14, 5:51pm  

China - over a billion humans breathing emits CO2
India - over a billion humans breathing emits CO2
Half of world population.
If global warming is a problem, we should see effects first in those areas.
1165   HeadSet   2024 Dec 14, 6:32pm  

REpro says

If global warming is a problem, we should see effects first in those areas.

The effect from additional CO2 put in the air is that plants grow faster. That has been proven many times over the years with high school AP class terrarium experiments.
1166   Patrick   2024 Dec 15, 11:45am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/a-red-storm-sunday-december-15-2024


A bizarre apocalypse article, based on a recently published astrophysics study, bubbled up through leftwing media this week, finally topping the New York Times’ home page yesterday. It bore the terrifying headline, “Superflares Erupt From Stars Like Our Sun Once Every 100 Years. ...

The study published this week in the journal Science with a title nearly identical to the Times’ headline: “Sun-like stars produce superflares roughly once per century.” (After the appalling pandemic trend of civilians doing their own research, the journal Science joined many other science journals and locked its content up behind an expensive paywall waived for Establishment types and corporate media. The high priests of science will tell you what you need to know, dummy.) ...

Let us pause to reflect that the data these scientists used was not new. The information was collected by NASA’s Kepler satellite telescope, which retired back in 2017. The Times suggested nobody noticed till now because they didn’t have good software tools. But I’d suggest that we’re only finding out now because the results are too different from approved orthodoxy, and so no respectable scientists wanted to find them, at least not until conditions improved.

Given the wild solar weather this year, new theories about the Sun are permissible. A little. Welcome to modern science.

And as for pandemic favorite The Ethical Skeptic (TES), the data genius who revealed and regularly reported on the CDC’s mendacious jab mortality data meddling, his true love is his well-developed but intellectually challenging theory of a recurring pole/solar disaster cycle. ...

The problem is that Establishment Science is politically allergic to two scientific theories: 1) any model attributing Earth’s changing climate to anything besides human activity, or 2) any model explaining Earth’s geology as being caused by catastrophic events like Noah’s flood, rather than by gradualism, the notion that Nature’s slow, steady, uniform forces can fully explain all Earth’s geologic features.

Since Hancock, Davidson, and TES all argue for catastrophic cycles causing both geology and climate, their ideas are doubly anathema to capital-S ‘Science.’ The arrogant left considers them not just heretical, but as “non-scientists,” instantly disqualifying them right out of the gate for lacking the right credentials (and more importantly, lacking the right politics).

So, considering their long-standing opposition to catastrophism and non-human climate influence, what should we make of the far-left New York Times promoting this catastrophic “every hundred years” superflare story, which violates, or at least threatens to violate, both banned ideas?

And especially since the story lends credibility to heretics like Hancock, Davidson, TES, and other heterodox catastrophists?

The answer is not obvious, and the Times isn’t saying. But recent events suggest a solution. Two weeks ago, the Economist ran a scary science story headlined, “Earth's magnetic North Pole is shifting toward Russia.” (Cue complaints about Russian disinformation, which is now confusing the North Pole.) “The pole,” the Economist economically noted, “is on the move.” Moving could become problematic. “If the Earth's magnetic field is disrupted,” the Economist darkly warned, “it may cause problems in technology and navigation, as well as expose the planet to unwanted radiation.”

Here’s the point: Could this year’s increasingly bizarre solar activity (with its astonishing, historic, worldwide aurorae and its weakening magnetic field), combined with the North Pole’s sprinting-speed geomagnetic excursion, be scaring the Establishment into considering previously unthinkable possibilities or, Heaven help us, the potential for a natural catastrophe not caused by cows burping?

These rapidly unfolding events must create a growing sense of urgency for Establishment Science to explain what’s happening, even if only to retain their crowns as experts and prevent customers from going somewhere else. Maybe that urgency, combined with the terrifying ultra-urgency of Trump’s appointment of heterodox scientists to run the main scientific agencies which, after all, award the grants, has the Scientific Establishment feeling especially apocalyptic this week.

Maybe we’re getting somewhere.
1173   MolotovCocktail   2024 Dec 22, 7:36pm  

Same tribe depicted in the film "Killers of the Flower Moon"

Italian firm was even excavating minerals from tribal land w/o permission. Why would they need minerals to erect wind farms?

They got hundreds of millions in US tax credits for putting these up that they don't have to pay back.

They essentially raped the Osage and got paid by Uncle Sam to do so. History repeating itself.



“Defendants are liable for continuing trespass and shall remove the wind farm from the Osage Minerals Estate and return the Osage Minerals Estate to its pre-trespass condition on or before December 1, 2025.”

It’s difficult to overstate the importance of this ruling. Enel has said that removing the 84 turbines in the Osage wind project would cost the company $300 million. Whatever the cost, the fact that a federal court has ordered the removal of the turbines is unprecedented.


https://robertbryce.substack.com/p/osage-tribe-wins-again-federal-judge

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