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GNL says

I gotta say this...how do we know anything the media tells us is true? Are we sure about anything at all?

Does anyone really think that the AI we see is as good as what the government has? Do you think the government hasn't perfected, over all these years, how to best propagandize the American people let alone the entire world? Is operation mockingbird real? If so, we are in deep doodoo.

Patrick says

Yes, because we know people.

If you know people in Venezuela, you can know from them that really was a big military operation there, for example.

Good Question



https://x.com/PositivFuturist/status/2008173374531309918?s=20

I appended the original post with an idea about human networks for validation.

Patrick says

I appended the original post with an idea about human networks for validation.

I like the idea but, imo, anything/group etc. that gains any kind of size becomes questionable. Maybe I’m just a naysayer?

As they say in china, all of it is propaganda.

CNN if you want to know what whites do
FOX if you want to know what minorities do

All global media is owned by us n jews so you really dont know reality in world. RT used to have different prespective but it is closed now.

Typically observe who us media is saying negative things , those countries about to have govt change or military intervention. All countries under us control are doing good but not in control are bad.

So this is one of the major fallacies in thinking on this site.

Every last enforcement agency in the US has things they don’t want the public to know. Some of it is hyper critical…security clearances and stuff. Other stuff is not know by the public at large but it’s not confidential or classified…it’s there and available if one is willing to do the research.

But there some stuff that you don’t know, won’t know, and SHOULDNT know.

If I can put it another way…I’ve posted before that my dad was an aerospace engineer. I grew up on a small street of about 20 homes. We knew most of our neighbors pretty well. One a few years younger than me applied to work in a civilian position at a federal agency that holds a bunch of high level classified work requiring some to have very high security clearances. While the neighbors position was not one of those, it supported people who did that very high level security work.

So in his job, my dad had some very high profile stuff, most of which he could never specifically discuss at home. Like working on very important weapon systems and satellites.

One Saturday….yes, on the weekend…investigators from the federal agency my neighbor applied to came to conduct background interviews with whomever they could find home. Literally Men in Black or at least that’s the impression I got. And impromptu they spoke with my dad, interest peeking up when he told them the work he did and the level of security clearance he had. They spoke with him for over 3 hours.

I still don’t know what my dad did entirely but I do know some of the projects he was assigned to and I’ll say that if it was known at the time, he literally would have been at risk of being kidnapped by a foreign government.

FWIW the neighbor got the job.

I know this isn’t going to be a popular opinion here, but this is one of the sorts of things (the foreign policy with Venezuela et al) that we won’t know. Now the hypothesis that we didn’t capture Maduro is just dumb for more reasons than I care to delve into here. Just because some conspiracy theory asshole is right once every million or so guesses doesn’t actually give credibility to conspiracy theories in general(in which case they would be conspiracy theories).

I will say, it’s good to be top dog. Most certainly preferable to the contrary. Our military kicks ass and there’s no one else. I googled top militaries yesterday and almost all say Russia is #2. I don’t know for sure if that is true…Ukraine exposed the soft white underbelly and Russias military is crap. Yes they have nukes and no I wouldn’t gamble with it, but a big part of me wonders how effective their missiles still are. But as far as conventional warfare goes, there’s no one that can touch the US and our allies. And there’s the rub…we have to ultimately be able to trust whomever it is running the White House, and there is no other choice because we will never ever be privy to everything, or even close to it. I trust Donald Trump. I did not trust Joe Biden (or even his judgement) and I sure as hell did not trust whomever was running things for Joe Biden.

Standard model is that SOMETHING gains huge attention and press focus, then rapidly degenerates into cacaphonies of disinformation like waves and interference patterns spreading out from whatever event. It's like a thousand relatives screaming at each other at the top of their lungs over dinner. This in and of itself is good for secrecy, as long as the fists are swinging in the barroom brawl. Eventually, convenient false histories are coined to add to the plethora of false histories, if they have lasting power and patronage.

We don't know what is happening with Maduro past the movie presented. I doubt the movie has anything to do with the 'reality' of Maduro. It does look like he will be used to reform the election system (Yay!). The Charlie soap opera is a ridiculous waste of time. Even analyzing the fakery is a waste of time.

How can the residents of the bleachers tell the difference? Believe your senses and don't let somebody else tell you what you have perceived when it is off. Obviously people vary a great deal in the strength of their 'truthometers', but many others hate truth and are more concerned with their little corner of 'lieometers'.

Trust has been bitch slapped for a long time now. This leads to endless searching for truth. I don’t think it will ever change and has probably always been like this.

Mother should I trust the government?

When I started to become a big internet user, I believed I had finally found a way to learn and figure things out. Yes, many things can be learned but sooo much, not just here on the internet but everywhere like TV, Newspaper, other people etc, can be untrue. I have endless doubts now. Even our history books are full of lies. I'm sure of that.

Unless you can see it, smell it, touch it, hear it and taste it, is it REALLY true? Sounds crazy but...

GNL says

When I started to become a big internet user, I believed I had finally found a way to learn and figure things out. Yes, many things can be learned but sooo much, not just here on the internet but everywhere like TV, Newspaper, other people etc, can be untrue. I have endless doubts now. Even our history books are full of lies. I'm sure of that.

Honestly, back in the first decade it was overwhelmingly White Dudes posting their hobbies and interests, so the information was generally more accurate as it was a work of love and expertise.

We need an internet that is really hard to configure and user-unfriendly, and doesn't work on smartphones.

BTW, I find a few smaller English-language Indian channels good for geopolitical things. Less commentary, more primary sources (ie covering the conference live).

For breaking news, Agenda-Free TV.

Do they have internet sites? I'd like to check them out, but don't have a TV.

We’ve all run across or asked out loud the question, “Who are TPTB?”

I don’t know who they are but I’m 99.99% sure they are psychologists. Mental manipulators of the highest order. If you can control what people know, think and believe, you can literally own the entire planet.

How to combat that is the question.

I think the answer is clear documentation of what they are doing, with proof.

Then we need to get that clear documentation into the movie theaters, on TV, and other places where the sheeple look.

Patrick says

I think the answer is clear documentation of what they are doing, with proof.

Then we need to get that clear documentation into the movie theaters, on TV, and other places where the sheeple look.

Yes, that would be very helpful. Add to that, the easily understood remedy. Personally, I think it starts with broken windows. Meaning, even breaking a window should have consequences. Over the decades, we, as a society, have looked the other way on the small things. I believe it starts there.

Patrick says

So maybe you could propose a question for validation that would go out to your friends, who would ask their friends, and so on, and eventually an answer comes back from Wei Ping in Bejing whom you know though 4 degrees of separation, querying 100,000,000 people. The greater the degrees of separation, the more likely the answer was tampered with, but still, you could rapidly query everyone on earth.

Or just ask kevin bacon

https://rumble.com/v73vtmo-we-are-not-hearing-the-truth-about-venezuela-they-are-disrupting-our-though.html