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Tim Aurora says

Since , according to the justice dept rule, DOJ cannot prosecute the sitting President Mueller Report has punted the question and forwarded it to Congress.

Tim, not what I asked.

Mueller didn't find any illegal acts by Trump or his inner Circle related to the Election - he referred NOTHING for indictment. Nor did he ask Congress to begin any proceedings.

Mueller did his hatchet job by holding Trump hostage to process for two years, just like the legal system always does, while a bunch of fuckhead lawyers got paid. Now, he wants to escape the flak attack and bail.

All they came up with was a bunch of allegations, maybes, what ifs, coulda shoulda wouldas, and vapor procedure. Now, it's just coprophagic LibbyFucks and Dems playing with their own shit and smearing the walls with it.

Ceffer says

Mueller did his hatchet job by holding Trump hostage to process for two years, just like the legal system always does, while a bunch of fuckhead lawyers got paid. Now, he wants to escape the flak attack and bail.

The goal was to either get Trump or keep the threat of Mueller going for the whole term in order to stop Trump from going after FISA/Dem Lobbyists. They figured Mueller would find something, even some process bullshit or some grey area stuff to nail the Don or the other Trump Family/Insiders on. Then they could use the threat of impeachment to keep Trump from Draining The Swamp.

This is why they are now flailing around trying to get bank records, which Mueller has likely already seen. Gotta find something to use to get Trump to stop looking into FISA.

The tariffs make sense if it raises foreign machines to the price level of equivalent USA made machines. If it raises the price of equivalent machines above USA prices, and USA manufacturers increase their prices to match, that truly is fucking the consumer.

All so true, but it doesn't go far enough. Big problems require big solutions.

I don't get it, they want the Electoral college abolished not the popular vote. There is no such thing as a Popular vote in the Presidential election. Every State is a minority it takes all of the states to form the Majority. The "Popular Vote" was never an issue in the History of Presidential elections until Al cry me a river Gore lost the election to hanging chads in Dade and Broward Florida.

Where do People find the time to create these sites, and then populate them with stuff? Is this an offshoot of "The Onion"?

Tenpoundbass says

You basement dwellers

Yeah, that's my guess too. That or a converted garage. Some regions don't have basements.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Trump paid the $25 million.

This could still qualify as "WINNING!" if he managed to extract more than $25M from simpletons who attended his University. Fines for big companies typically are much less than PROFITS! from illegal activities they are fined for. See banksters in 2008-9

We all should feel empathy, which on local level is usually is expressed as supporting higher taxes. Most of tax raises go to police pensions so that Heroes in Blue can retire at 40 after 20 years of hard work of beating and shooting minorities and rednecks. An epic WIN for empathy!

MAGA_BOMBER says

Trump has a past. It predicts his future.

Trump will get rid of everyone everywhere who would ever stand against him for any reason.

That's what makes Trump Trump.

Yep, Multi-billionaire with hundreds of businesses. Sometimes you gotta pay a few million in fines. No biggie.

No they will die off naturally via ass fucking with the aids chaser
MAGA_BOMBER says

Are you noisy bastards going to get the libbies?

Not worried about Leftists, in 20-40 years they will continue to shrink dramatically. Millenial Lefty Purple Hairs are way below the replacement rate.

d6rB says

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Trump paid the $25 million.

This could still qualify as "WINNING!" if he managed to extract more than $25M from simpletons who attended his University. Fines for big companies typically are much less than PROFITS! from illegal activities they are fined for. See banksters in 2008-9

Waiting to see what happens w Zuckerberg and the FTC.

you bumped your own thread from 2 years back?... silly boy.

I'd really like to own a McCarthy t-shirt.

Tenpoundbass says

If Trump actually called for violence at his rallies a few of your Marxist boy friends would have been Mussolini'd by now.

One of my favorite pastimes is watching Proud Boys on Utube beating the fuck out of antifags.

Yes, indeed. The prime manufacturers of fake empathy (psychologists) who are in fact the gate keepers and covert enforcers of value systems, usually cultural, political or even religious in nature, are certainly the ones to lecture everybody else about the role and value of empathy and how it should completely defeat common sense.

Abandon all common sense and rationality so you can be a fake empathic! LibbyFucks are using empathy as the calling card for tyranny of imposed values.

Governments are supposed to be fair, not empathetic. People are supposed to be empathetic, not authoritarian and willing to go to any length to shut down opposing ideas (Antifa). No matter our political ideology, we could all stand to treat each other a little better.

Programmatic means “sticking with the program” which in this case was “stir up anger against the POTUS to try to impeach for no cause.” Barr just stuck to the facts in his little summary, and didn’t include the hyperbole, therefore he LIED (somehow) and must be IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY ZOMG!!!! autistic Libby screeching

MAGA_BOMBER says

Calling all internet tuff guys

Your posting is a heaping pile of dung!

A sad sack communist masturbatory writing.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

A chick from the Sierra Club shot most of my neighbors and burned their homes and kidnapped the post man, took him captive is slicing chunks off of him ad eating him slowly

Typical libby.

Why did she spare you? Must have "colluded."

"Won't you Conservatives go back to being the bowtie wearing, meek, soft-palmed wimps you were before?

We can't handle Alinsky tactics thrown back at us! Uncle! Uncle!"

Quigley says

Barr just stuck to the facts in his little summary

I suppose that is why Mueller wrote him (Barr) a letter saying, “The summary letter the Department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24 did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office’s work and conclusions,”

Context, nature and substance that's pretty much everything. In other words you are a devious sack of shit.

He goes on to tell Barr to release his summaries immediately to quell public confusion which he didn't do.
“Accordingly, the enclosed documents are in a form that can be released to the public consistent with legal requirements and Department policies,” Mueller wrote. “I am requesting that you provide these materials to Congress and authorize their public release at this time.”

rdm says

Context, nature and substance that's pretty much everything.

Obviously you didn't watch the hearing. Barr said he spoke to Mueller over the phone about that specifically. This is beautiful:
www.youtube.com/embed/B8dw3M2ce1o?t=5701

Barr is a mysterious and murky figure. A CIA recruit from early on, he has been associated with the BushFuck Globalist schemes on many levels. He typically was never a 'prosecutor' so much as a blind eye fixit man who quelled and suppressed the criminal inquiries of Bush/Clinton criminal axis and the CIA drug runners in the day. He is a blob of quasi-legal gel to capture and dissolve flagrant lawless activities and turn them into pablum. He'll try to bore everybody to death until they don't care any more, and then he'll kibosh and kabong the inquiries.

Nowadays, the observation has been made that AGs aren't legal enforcers. They are appointed to cover up the crimes of their political leaders and/or to selectively prosecute and persecute the enemies of their political leaders. The AGs for the last thirty or forty years fit this bill .

There is not much to indicate that somebody like Barr is going to conduct any meaningful prosecutions, but will simply play act and way lay them eventually, hopefully when the media attention goes somewhere else. GlobailstFucks and top Gov bureaucratic seditionists and, of course, the intelligence agencies are probably quite safe, including IHLlary. I notice she has been loudly braying in public again, she certainly is smug and not running scared in the least. I doubt Obama and his minions are losing any sleep.

Barr is just another diplomate of the now standard, ongoing, disappointing and permanently lodged corruption of the Deep State in league with the coverts. Trump may just not be able to to do anything about it except survive.

Barrzovsky. His name is Barrzovsky. Another Russian colluder! They're everywhere!!!!! Calling out all patriotic face eaters, now! To the capitol!

willywonka says

Barrzovsky. His name is Barrzovsky. Another Russian colluder! They're everywhere!!!!! Calling out all patriotic face eaters, now! To the capitol!

Is that Putin cum I see on his lapel?

Why didn't Mueller reach a conclusion? It was his job after all. Because he wanted to sow more discord. He's crooked as fuck AND made his considerable money the swampy way: Revolving door of the govt vs. lobbying for crony caps. I can't wait to hear about his pals formerly running the FBI and DOJ going to prison.

So put Mueller on the stand and let him bore everyone to tears with this “substance” he felt was missing from the summary. Not that we need said summary anymore since the whole thing has been released now should anyone need a soporific before bedtime.
It wasn’t Barr’s job to inform the public anyway. It was his job to decide whether a prosecution was in order. Dems are just mad that he defied their wishes and said “no prosecution.”

Barr's psyops training is to disarm the most querulous, aggressive, hostile, nasty, soapboxing Congressional inquisitionist, armed with facts, figures, dates, times, recordings etc. illustrating indisputable evidence of malfeasance, turning the inquisitor into a snoring mass of tongue lolling apathy, while the rest of the room wanders around like dazed decerebrates bumping into the walls.

Quigley says

It wasn’t Barr’s job to inform the public anyway

I agree, Barr took it upon himself and injected his opinions as a summary of the report while at the same time keeping Mueller's summaries, which were prepared for public release out of public view for weeks. This was pretty clearly political move. Barr should have simply released Mueller's summaries or waited till he could release the redacted report.

Quigley says

It was his job to decide whether a prosecution was in order

As to Trump himself, that was already decided by the OLC memo that says you cannot indict a sitting President, Barr believes that, as does Mueller. There was never going to be an indictment of Trump though many of his cronies got swept up in the investigation. Remember Mueller's job was about: 1 Russian interference in the 2016 election to the benefit of Trump and 2. whether Trump campaign conspired with Russia. As to the first he found wide spread and systematic interference; as to the second there was no crime committed. The third issue obstruction of justice has been left an open question (by Mueller) for congress now, and perhaps after Trump is out of office the legal system to determine. In Barr's opinion there was no obstruction, but that was forgone conclusion because Barr has a singularly odd and expansive view of Presidential power, that says it is essentially impossible for a President to commit obstruction because he is the President.

Barr's final exam at Langley was to show a bloody suitcase full of infant body parts to a group of helicopter moms, and convince them through droning torrents of fake legalese that they had just seen a cute baby in a stroller.

"Where there is evidence of crime, there is NO evidence of crime."

Barr's skill is to make the most heinous, obvious atrocity and crime appear to be beneath the dignity of public or official notice.

As far as going after unindicted co-conspirators, good luck with that. Langley doesn't train for that.

"You don't actually expect me to prosecute all my FRIENDS? They might jostle my brandy at the oligarch club!"

Smoking barrels now, empathy later!

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

A headshot is an act of kindness in many situations.

After shooting redneck in HEAD, Hero in Blue can retire in luxury at age of 40. A Fucking While Male eliminated, and emphatic taxpayers should feel good knowing that they will pay policepersons pension at 90% of salary for next 50 years. Win-Win! Empathy rules!

rdm says

The third issue obstruction of justice has been left an open question (by Mueller) for congress now, and perhaps after Trump is out of office the legal system to determine.

Materially hampering an investigation with intent to hide wrongdoing. That’s obstruction. Trump’s tweets don’t constitute any of that, neither so conversations with staffers about his options. Not to mention that he had no wrongdoing to hide, so pretty hard to prove intent there. Remember, both Barr and Rosenstein who was in on this from the beginning and actually appointed Mueller, agreed that there was no case there for obstruction.

Pelosi will never move to impeach him over this unless she finds something vastly more compelling. Hence the endless and illegal congressional investigations of all of Trump’s business practices for the last forty years.

Show her the man and she will try to show you the crime!

Anyway, she’s not stupid enough to try to impeach a sitting President just to clarify a point of law. Because make no mistake, there is no clear law that finds his actions criminal with respect to obstruction. That would have to be decided and appealed and all that, but what it really would come down to is a Senate vote to toss the whole mess out and get on with business. And she knows that. So this is just political theater, as usual.

Mueller never said the only Golden words that matters for him. "I recommend Criminal Prosecution."

As a prosecutor investigator, Mueller's job is not to exonerate anyone. Trump was not on trial, there is no guilt to assume. So Mueller's job was to find guilt and recommend prosecution. Not release a mealy mouthed report that says. Ah gee, we found nothing but he looks guilty, we don't think he's innocent.

Tenpoundbass says

So Mueller's job

Actually, Mueller's job was to look in to Russia's attempts to hack our election. The Trump campaigns possible involvement with Russia's involvement is a side issue that's only part of what he was asked to investigate.

His findings are his findings. IF they looked in to obstruction, and found that maybe there was obstruction, but that they are not indicting the President, then let that be reported and disclosed in all it's detail. That is the details of what obstruction is in this case, what they found, what is the exact extent, and why they concluded it doesn't rise to the level of an indictment. The public deserves to know the details.

Then we can maybe be done with this. . (not that there won't be other investigations of Trump).