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Onvacation says

jazz_music says

TDS commenters should see the doctor for relief

If it's a crisis you can call these guys
https://www.mentalhealth.gov/get-help/immediate-help

Homeboy thinks we’re trying to gaslight him, but doesn’t thing the propaganda spew by the leftist sites he reads is anything but gospel truth.

CovfefeButDeadly says

Homeboy thinks

Whatever happened to that magabomber dude?

Patrick,
It seems that some "members" left since you made the board readable to registered users only. I'd expect that number of hits and board exposure went way down as well (please fact check me on this). I believe that there's a strong correlation between these two facts (the second one needs to be checked). I'd like to offer few thoughts on this, specifically on how to quickly identify the propaganda-by-repetition trolls who are in for a quick buck before they pollute the board, if you ever decide to make it open again. This would require a separate discussion, here I just wanted to check if you know and are willing to share the stats.

CovfefeButDeadly says

Homeboy thinks we’re trying to gaslight him, but doesn’t thing the propaganda spew by the leftist sites he reads is anything but gospel truth.

It is really sad how low these bottom feeding TDS victims scrape to keep a narrative alive.

They are not preprocessing the words that comes out of their mouths.
If they were, they would realize what are basically saying, "Burn down the house to get rid of a Rat" and
"Invite a Serial Killer over to stop a Robbery in Progress."

What they are saying about Trump, is exactly what the Left are and have been doing all along. On every single thing to the most minor detail. They are doing IT!
These fanboys are not the least bit interested or not the least bit intellectually honest about the reality. They can't be that gullible stupid.

If just one of them would say... "Yeah, I don't like Trump and I hope he goes down for what I suspect him of. BUT These Mother Fuckers in Congress are crazy, and that was some crazy shit the last administration ran. I really hope they get to the bottom of that. We can't have a country with our system being rigged and corrupt as many people are suggesting with real evidence and records."

Just once! I could respect them enough to listen to them tear into Trump flaws.

They act as if they are not the least bit curious if what CNN tells them to not look at, might be true. Don't give three shits, just fuck Trump.

Bottom feeding morons, the whole fucking lot of them. They aint got the sense God gave Goat Shit. Nor the integrity of a scaffold made out of air.

Onvacation says

Chiromancer says

the facts and evidence that everyday look worse and worse for Trump.

Remind me of the high crime or misdemeanor Trump committed?

Why, the bastard got elected to the presidency without becoming a completely compromised blackmailable piece of shit entirely under the control of the intelligence agencies that have kept this nation at war for 18 fucking years and on top of that, showed that the establishment scum of both parties is so despised, that somebody that has defined the establishment over 30 years couldn't win election despite the media pushing for her, the intelligence agencies pushing for her, and the leadership of both parties pushing for her.

Could there be a higher crime than that?!?!

Onvacation says

Chiromancer says

the facts and evidence that everyday look worse and worse for Trump.

Remind me of the high crime or misdemeanor Trump committed?

That is what the impeachment inquiry determines; if any of the "shenanagens" Trump and Co were involved with rises to the level of an impeachable offence. But it wouldn't matter to the cult if he murdered someone as long as it triggered the libs, no,?

richwicks says

Could there be a higher crime than that?!?!

How about lying about a blow job ...

I'm tired of listening to "impeachable", "impeach", "impeachment" over and over and over ad nauseum..
Why not "impearable offence"?
Who among us hates pears?

Chiromancer says

That is what the impeachment inquiry determines; if any of the "shenanagens" Trump and Co were involved with rises to the level of an impeachable offence.

Chiromancer says

richwicks says

Could there be a higher crime than that?!?!

How about lying about a blow job ...

Oh, Clinton was a stupid lawyer to answer that question. His lawyer at the time should have objected to the question, since it had nothing to do with the case. Clinton was impeached for lying under oath.

Meanwhile, it was just fine he blew up the al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant to distract from the Monika Lewinksy scandal - he did do that. That plant was the only plant in Sudan that produced pharmaceuticals for Sudan. He got impeached on a technicality, but he was an asshole. We've had nothing but complete assholes since Reagan.

Someone name the crime President Trump committed that will lead to his impeachment. Cite and link the government code please.

Otherwise I’m polluting any further impeachment threads. And you won’t like it.

Chiromancer says

That is what the impeachment inquiry determines; if any of the "shenanagens" Trump and Co were involved with rises to the level of an impeachable offence. But it wouldn't matter to the cult if he murdered someone as long as it triggered the libs, no,?

Obama murdered a US citizen. Anwar al-Awlaki was murdered by a drone strike on September 30, 2011. The US government claimed he was a terrorist, but never attempted to apprehend him nor did they have a trial for him, even in absentee.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki#Death

Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was murdered on October 14, 2011 - this was Anwar's son. He was 16 years old.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki#Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki

They were both American citizens.

You were saying something about cults? I sure am tired of the selective outrage, especially since Trump hasn't murdered anybody in cold blood, when Obama did.

OccasionalCortex says

mostly_reader says

Bringing recording equipment (cellphones) into a secured (SCIF) room was a direct violation of security protocols and displayed such a gross misconduct that Every. Single. One. should be expelled from Congress following their Censure."

...NOT FOR CONGRESSCRITTERS.
They exempted themselves. Like they do for most laws.
You're the one making shit up.

You are responding to a wrong person. You probably meant jazz_music

mostly_reader says

Patrick,
It seems that some "members" left since you made the board readable to registered users only. I'd expect that number of hits and board exposure went way down as well (please fact check me on this). I believe that there's a strong correlation between these two facts (the second one needs to be checked). I'd like to offer few thoughts on this, specifically on how to quickly identify the propaganda-by-repetition trolls who are in for a quick buck before they pollute the board, if you ever decide to make it open again. This would require a separate discussion, here I just wanted to check if you know and are willing to share the stats.

Patrick, I can solve the problem of PR spam trolls and I'll split the patent with you. And I really mean it, I have a method that will entirely eliminate spam, public relations assholes, and paid shills.

richwicks says

Trump hasn't murdered anybody in cold blood, when Obama did.

And you know this how? The drone attacks have continued under Trump. Granted he is probably too stupid and inept to realize those deaths are his responsibility as a supposed commander and chief. But who knows maybe the special ed daily briefing in comic book format has penetrated, so to speak.

Chiromancer says

richwicks says

Trump hasn't murdered anybody in cold blood, when Obama did.

And you know this how? The drone attacks have continued under Trump. Granted he is probably too stupid and inept to realize those deaths are his responsibility as a supposed commander and chief. But who knows maybe the special ed daily briefing in comic book format has penetrated, so to speak.

Ok, FINE, I don't know this for certain. In fact, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see some asshole's bodies encased in the foundation of a few buildings that crossed Trump, but I doubt they were innocents.

Chiromancer says

The drone attacks have continued under Trump.

Who knows? According to our media, this is an attack against Kurds by the Turks:

www.youtube.com/embed/XNk7H3wX5SY

When in reality it was video footage from an annual shooting event at Knob Hill, KY. We literally have no fucking idea what is going on from US "news". It's like trying to read Pravda and Izvestia back in 1985 to see what was going on in the United States.

Chiromancer says

Granted he is probably too stupid and inept to realize those deaths are his responsibility as a supposed commander and chief.

He's not started a new war yet - I can't say the same for either Obama or Bush Jr by this time into their first term - and I don't care if it's because of genius or stupidity. I only care about results. Name ONE war, or bombing, since 2000 you think was a good idea or turned out to be a good idea.

People keep screaming about how awful Trump is - he's not awful at all compared to the last two assholes we had for president. They should be executed, and I'm not exaggerating. They should go through a trial, and be executed for crimes against humanity. The very fact that Trump refuses to being a new war shows you he's better than the last two pieces of dogshit we had. There was absolutely nothing redeeming about the two fucking turds that were our last presidents, or the fucking turds that ran against them in each election.

Chiromancer says

But who knows maybe the special ed daily briefing in comic book format has penetrated, so to speak.

He may very well be a moron, but compared to every other joke nitwit fucktard that's run since... oh, at least Reagan, he's a comparative genius.

Wait - I take that back, I forgot that Ross Perot ran in the 1990s.

The next recession and Tech downturn will make California even more 'interesting' than it already is. Brace yourselves, you might prefer the earthquakes and fires.

It's good the pension carpetbaggers can't flee the state with lump sums. Otherwise, California would wind up looking like a third world treasury after a bloody regime change with the ex-tyrants fleeing with everything that wasn't nailed down.

Tenpoundbass says

It is really sad how low these bottom feeding TDS victims scrape to keep a narrative alive.

At least the TDS sufferers on this site are struggling with the cognitive dissonance. I think we may have lost some of our greatest leftist antagonists that used to post here; something in them finally clicked and they realized their arguments mostly fell flat when compared to the facts.

CovfefeButDeadly says

Someone name the crime President Trump committed that will lead to his impeachment. Cite and link the government code please.

Otherwise I’m polluting any further impeachment threads. And you won’t like it.

And crickets. Thanks for the silent admission that the “impeachment” is a steaming heap of bullshit.

Oh just let them happen.

If Trump is impeached, it's going to cause riots. I didn't vote for Trump, but I certainly didn't vote for the Butcher of Libya, and I'll be on the side of the rioters.

They've been trying to impeach Trump on trumped up charges since before he was sworn in simply because he's not part of this criminal gang everybody is sick of - both republican and democrat. Bush Jr. destroyed the Republican party by being a dirtbag, then Obama did the same to the Democratic party. I'm looking forward to an, actual, outsider on the Democratic side running. Tulsi might be it, maybe.. I liked Dennis Kucinich. Then again, I respected Sanders for a period of time. I admit, I can be fooled just as easily as anybody else can be, maybe even better!

I say vote for John Kasich. With his folksy countryside approach, all the old porky pig episodes would be in vogue...

richwicks says

I'm looking forward to an, actual, outsider on the Democratic side running. Tulsi might be it, maybe.. I liked Dennis Kucinich. Then again, I respected Sanders for a period of time. I

jazz_music says

Onvacation says

something in them finally clicked and they realized their arguments mostly fell flat when compared to the facts.

That thought must comfort you greatly

I will start a thread at some point about identifying cognitive dissonance, and how I, at least believe, eliminated it within myself.

I am satisfied with Trump, but I despised Bush Jr. I have very high confidence he lied us into the Iraq War. I consider him a war criminal. I was disgusted with the Democratic majority refused to hold impeachment hearings, only to find out later that Pelosi was in on it, knowing that torture was being used as early as 2002.

In the 2008 election, I had looked up Obama's record as a junior senator. He was supposedly against the Iraq War but voted to fund it at every opportunity except on the campaign trail. I had no faith in him, but I thought he might hold banking criminals accountable from the 2007 crash. Eric Holder destroyed that hope. He bombed 7 nations over 8 years, he caused the refugee crisis in Europe. He was horrible. Was he worse than Bush? I don't know, flip a coin, they were both absolutely horrible.

Trump hasn't started a new war yet, despite 3 false flags blamed on Iran. Venezuela fizzled out. North Korea is back on the back burner. He's not demonizing a nuclear super power - Russia. 30 years ago, I'd have said he was a terrible president having done nothing, but today, he's awesome because compared to his two predecessors, he is.

Where is my cognitive dissonance?

What offence did Trump commit? I can't think of anything that rises to high crime or misdemeanor.

Now the way Joe and Hunter shook down Ukraine, that's criminal.

richwicks is right we are ruled by a murderous criminal organization.

Onvacation says

richwicks is right we are ruled by a murderous criminal organization.

Haha, I'm really serious. If you think of the government as a mafia, EVERYTHING it does makes sense. If it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck..

I know it's not pleasant to think about, but abandon your hopes, and just observe it entirely dispassionately, like any good sociopath would. I'm not thrilled with it. My big fault is I can think like a sociopath, but I'm not one - and I'm eternally grateful.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XDdRSOrlz4o

If that doesn't work properly start at 1:56 - what maniac would want to rule this world?

Chiromancer says

Onvacation says

Chiromancer says

the facts and evidence that everyday look worse and worse for Trump.

Remind me of the high crime or misdemeanor Trump committed?

That is what the impeachment inquiry determines;

It sounds like the plan is to investigate Trump until something is found or his 8 year term is up.

Chiromancer says

he is probably too stupid and inept

You really can't have a debate with someone that thinks Trump is stupid and inept.

Good night all.

Onvacation says

You really can't have a debate with someone that thinks Trump is stupid and inept.

Yeah, the 'Trump is stupid, insane, senile, foolish, incompetent etc. etc.' train left a long time ago and simply deems one an agitprop repeater station.

Onvacation says

Chiromancer says

he is probably too stupid and inept

You really can't have a debate with someone that thinks Trump is stupid and inept.

Good night all.

Of course you can. You can ask them how they manage their own money for their benefit, and if you think they could start something like 200 businesses with only 6 failures and defeat all the garbage "mainstream candidates" when the media, the leadership of both parties, and the intelligence agencies oppose you.

Trump I don't think is any angel, he's a human being, but compared to what he's up against, he's a fucking angel.

Trump is no moron but he cultivates that perception intentionally. Let your enemy think you are weak when you are strong. I'm no blind supporter of Trump but he's been the best president I've seen in at least 16 years. Before that, I was too politically unaware to make a decent judgement although NAFTA was really a disaster I think now, and so was the Gulf war. Maybe 28 years.

I have hope with the current president. Been a long time since I've felt that. My heart and hope goes out to fly-over country who we absolutely depend on.

Trump will sing the national anthem instead, and his falsetto will shatter the stadium lights. "it's the voice I use for Puti-cakes!"

WaltertheoFlanders says

VINCENT says

But they aren't following the rules.

You skipped that part as did that idiot Napolitano.

So which rules did they not follow? You skipped that part.

I don't claim to know the rules, but they were stupid rules made by Republicans. Whether they're being followed or not. See, it's not so hard to be balanced. Let's see the left do it. I'm guessing I'll be waiting, because Trump literally has done NOTHING right, ever as POTUS. EVER. lol.

WaltertheoFlanders says

What offence did Joe and Hunter commit?

They shook down Ukraine for money.

Would one of you Bidens' supporters explain how it is ok for them to extort millions from Ukraine while Trump wanting to investigate said corruption is an impeachable offence?

The military industrial political media complex is fighting for its life. I hope it loses.

WaltertheoFlanders says

impeachment is political not criminal in nature.

And there you have it. It's not that Trump committed any crime, it's that "orange man bad".

Trump Derangement Syndrome is toxic.

WaltertheoFlanders says

CovfefeButDeadly says

CovfefeButDeadly says

Someone name the crime President Trump committed that will lead to his impeachment. Cite and link the government code please.

Otherwise I’m polluting any further impeachment threads. And you won’t like it.

And crickets. Thanks for the silent admission that the “impeachment” is a steaming heap of bullshit.

Hmmm, sounds like someone doesn't understand that impeachment is political not criminal in nature.

Why do you hate fact and logic?

There has to be an actual allegation of crime committed to impeach. The constitution says so. Now whether or not there is any basis to that allegation is another matter.

Your statement is wrong. Not to mention stupid.

CovfefeButDeadly says

allegation of crime committed to impeach

Now you can argue that there should be a crime but no, there does not have to be a crime as Gerald Ford once said "....an impeachable offence is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it at any given moment in history" and this is technically true. Of course the senate doesn't have to convict in the trial. It was very clear that Pelosi didn't think it worth impeaching Trump and didnt want to do so before the Ukraine stuff came to light. The change occurred because she saw that what he has alleged to have done and in large part admitted to doing "... is an abuse of power of the office that violates the public trust, runs counter to the national interest, and undermines the republic." a high crime and misdemeanor. Now you can certainly disagree with that which I am sure you do. There may well be criminality associated with the Ukraine debacle, that remains to be seen but it is not a requirement for impeachment.

richwicks says

Trump is no moron but he cultivates that perception intentionally

That sir, is ridiculous. The old 17 dimensional chess argument done one better. A clever Forest Gump he's not. His vanity is so exceedingly strong he believes and wants others to believe he is the very stable genius he has often claimed to be. As to his business acumen he has none. What he has is a great ability at both self promotion and promotion in general. Indeed I would call him a genius as a promoter_ to a certain segment of the population_, but it doesn't work with everybody only about 35 to 40 % which is a lot. And like all great promoters he believes his own bull shit.

Except it is. By definition there can’t be a trial without a charge. Whatever Gerald Ford said is irrelevant because that’s not the way the law reads. So Gerald Fords statements aren’t fact. There were criminal charges against both Nixon and Clinton.

Now bogus charges are another issue, but there has to be charges or else there’s nothing for the Senate to base a trial upon.

WaltertheoFlanders says

CovfefeButDeadly says

WaltertheoFlanders says

CovfefeButDeadly says

CovfefeButDeadly says

Someone name the crime President Trump committed that will lead to his impeachment. Cite and link the government code please.

Otherwise I’m polluting any further impeachment threads. And you won’t like it.

And crickets. Thanks for the silent admission that the “impeachment” is a steaming heap of bullshit.

Hmmm, sounds like someone doesn't understand that impeachment is political not criminal in nature.

Why do you hate fact and logic?

There has to be an actual allegation of crime committed to impeach. The constitution says so. Now whether or not t...

WaltertheoFlanders says

What "facts"? And remember your opinion does not equal facts.

I don't think you understand how impeachment works. We will get to a vote on articles of impeachment but we are not at that stage yet. That appears to be what you are overlooking. First is the inquiry stage. Remember Kenneth Starr? We are at that same stage. Except three house committees are taking the place of Kenneth Starr.

Show me the law, or where it states in the Constitution that what the Democrats are doing is against the law or house rules. Simple put you can't. You might say it's there but that's you just making up shit which does not equal facts.

Now you are making arguments against stuff I never said. This is just silly. The DNC needs to put you back in your box.

Calling John Boehner a Republican is like calling the Antifa, American Soldiers.

CovfefeButDeadly says

By definition there can’t be a trial without a charge.

There certainly will be a charge and it will likely be abuse of power and related matters, that is not a crime in and of itself but there may well be related crimes alleged and charged, the process is in the investigation phase.

There is no criminal statute regarding impeachment only a paragraph in the constitution which defines the powers given to Congress to remove the President, Vice President and other certain other constitutional office holders (not members of Congress)

rdm says

There is no criminal statute regarding impeachment only a paragraph in the constitution which defines the powers given to Congress to remove the President, Vice President and other certain other constitutional office holders (not members of Congress)

Absent a crime that necessitates his impeachment and removal, removing the President for purely political reasons IS a crime against the Democratic nature of our country, and a violation of the peoples’ will in electing him to serve for four years. It’s a coup, not a judicial process. And considering that it would be the establishment government removing an upstart reformer, it’s the entirely wrong sort of coup. Our government was carefully constructed to allow for removing tyrants and reforming poorly functioning government through democratic and judicial processes. This is because the Founders understood that Revolutions were messy and chaotic and rarely ever resulted in BETTER government than before. So having a process installed for reforming the government by the People was essential to the continued existence of the country.

A coup by the establishment against the reformer is exactly cross purposes to the Constitution.