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When will they release the transcript!

"Will badgers eat that Cuban gardener that hangs around the stairwell all the time?"

HEYYOU says

So which is it? The best economy in the history of economies or a national economic emergency?

In reality it is both, depending on your level of wealth. Never better (in my lifetime) for the 1%, quite good for the upper middle class, lower upper and flat to crappy for everyone else. The true emergency comes when we can no longer fund the debt. The kind off cut Trump is doing is political and will have no real impact on anything other than the workers.

HEYYOU says

made out of badger fur

made out of pussy hair of Immense Swedish Hirsute Lesbians

I heard the winds mixes the air & that's what is read to get the CO2 content.;-)

So, the best measures are taken in the jet stream?

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

A colleague from Tufts - right near Boston - reports that for the second year it is raining in February which is unheard of for the region. Not rare but just not seen in his lifetime. The age of the kids tell me he is in his fifties or sixties and has seen enough Februaries to make a call on what is odd weather. Could he also be deep state libby conspirator jihadi who hates freedom? Should I ask him?

Did you ask them if they would have preferred a shitload of snow instead?
It wasn't that long ago that they had so much snow that it didn't melt until June. Just ask Rin, I'm sure that he remembers that.
I hate the constant rain we have been having lately, but them I remind myself that at least it's not snowing!

Badger don't care

People, we are arguing about the wrong things.

1. Some of us agree that CO2 changes climate substantially.
2. Others disagree, but most of those who disagree, think that it would be good to get off fossil fuels because FUCK YOU SAUDI BARBARIA and RUSSIA!

If we pick 1, 2, or both, then working towards elimination of fossil fuels makes sense. The we come to question: what should we do, and how to do that in a way that does not make 90% of country poor and destitute?

The only rational answer is nuclear power, and research into more nuclear power. Everything else will be piecemeal solutions suitable, at best, in some localities, but not universally.

1. Some of us agree that CO2 changes climate substantially.
2. Others disagree, but most of those who disagree, think that it would be good to get off fossil fuels because FUCK YOU SAUDI BARBARIA and RUSSIA!

Add to that the idea that resource depletion and plain old pollution can be curtailed also. But the AGW crowd does not want solutions other than everyone has the "original sin" of being a polluter and must fund big government as contrition. Any talk of solutions, like nuke power, will only get diverted back to arguing with deniers.

HeadSet says

But the AGW crowd does not want solutions other than everyone has the "original sin" of being a polluter and must fund big government as contrition

They (Greta and Co) are funded by so-called alternative, green energy companies which want to suck on gov't teat, as most of them can not compete in free marketplace.

What kind of pancakes?

Asking for a friend?

Only if she kneads it.

Is coffee included?

Big nose, big hose
Big nose, big hole
So, pass

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Trump can just order a tactical nuke strike on the court and have the judge's relatives raped to death and fed to lions at the National Zoo.

One phone call.

MAGA.

Is that not what happened?

HEYYOU says

Two examples of many Dem retard posts.
If we still had nut house mental institutions around the country,they would be full of Democrats.

Not just Democrats, but yeah filled to capacity day 1.

Why can’t parents raise normal non retarded kids anymore.

Timothy Snyder is a Globalist Cunt, he's good at playing with dates to advance his thesis.

The problem with the US is not Free Speech, but the lack of rational discourse and shaming/screeching by the Cathedral.

Mayor Pete would felch her bung hole.

HeadSet says

Ok, I am dumb here. What is meant by "adjustments." I would expect to see something like "Actual Predicted Temps" compared to "Actual Measured Temps." Also, what is the scale on PPP CO2? And how do you measure "atmospheric CO2? CO2 is heavier than air and would vary with altitude and proximity to sources.

The temperature record has been adjusted for "reasons".. This graph shows how much the record has been adjusted. The rise in co2 has been fairly linear over the last century rising from 310 ppm to 410 ppm so the x axis represents the time over the last century. You can see the co2 ppm scale in the middle of the chart.

The y axis, plotted with the little blue boxes, shows all of the adjustments that have been made to the raw temperature records over the last century. notice that in order to show warming they had to subtract a small anomaly from the early 20th century and then add a small anomaly to the later temperatures.

By manipulating the temperature record they are trying to erase history, the dust bowl never happened.

As far as how they measure earth wide co2 levels and worldwide yearlong temperature anomalies down to hundredths of a degree, that is beyond my understanding.

Below is a graph of co2 ppm vs temp anomaly. Scary warming, with adjustments the temperature warmed almost a whole degree in a century.


Charts can be manipulated to show whatever you want. I have a lot more faith in humanity's ability to adapt to the climate than to change how we change it.

Charts can be manipulated to show whatever you want. I have a lot more faith in humanity's ability to adapt to the climate than to change how we change it.

Yes, even primitive humans live worldwide in extremes from the Arctic to the Sahara. It is asinine to think a 2 degree increase anywhere will wipe out humanity.

I'd like to be optimistic, but I am not...
about teabaggers, Texas R's redistricted Ron Paul out of his district because he was telling mean things to them.

Bolton - enthusiastic YES, John Kelly no

Bolton might be the cause of a few tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths around the world. He was way too fond of starting wars....

When we get the House of Representatives back maybe we can do something about this.
Obamacare is a giant drain on the taxpayers. Fixing that would help.
Trump at least froze government goldbrick pay increases.

clambo says

When we get the House of Representatives back maybe we can do something about this.

ain't gonna work, R's had house for 2 yrs after tRUMP election and ZILCH!
Salary freeze is good, but without cuts to Medisomething and so-called defense aka handouts to Rayeton and Boeing nothing will work

thomasdong1776 says

Where are the teabaggers?

Apparently they like the cut of great leader's jib. He's old, white, and his amoral sociopathic tendencies scare the crap out of most of those smarty pants elitist educated intelligent folks.

What's not to like ?

Drinking tea?

I think at this point no one gives a shit anymore. Everyone sees it as someone else’s credit card.

Only if it’ll be on payperview.

Oh look, the Economy is on fire, Unemployment at 50 year lows, strong wage gains not seen since the late 90s.

Predictions of economic collapse if OrangeManBad got in have been royally trounced and look ridiculous. Right down to the inability to work on the trade deficit and the inevitable rise of CHYNA.

All of a sudden the Democrats became Deficit Hawks, who woulda thunk it? I guess Medicare-for-all would be revenue-neutral, amirite?

NoCoupForYou says

All of a sudden the Democrats became Deficit Hawks, who woulda thunk it?

Actually, going back to at least Clinton, democrats have been clearly way more fiscally responsible than republicans.

You're right. The economy has been decent (only), with gdp growth to the obama years. What is it now ?

This is in spite of Trump, not becasue of him. I think the economy would have been similar with Clinton, but with way less new debt. . Because of the lower deficit spending, we might have had a recession by now, but that has to happen sooner or later anyway.

marcus says

Actually, going back to at least Clinton, democrats have been clearly way more fiscally responsible than republicans.

Clinton was forced into it by a Republican takeover of Congress in 1994.

As for caring about Deficits, that's only when the Dems aren't in Power:
2004: Not tax cuts! Deficits Horrible!

Back then, a disapproving Krugman called the deficit "comparable to the worst we've ever seen in this country. ... The only time postwar that the United States has had anything like these deficits is the middle Reagan years, and that was with unemployment close to 10 percent." Take away the Social Security surplus spent by the government, he said, and "we're running at a deficit of more than 6 percent of GDP, and that is unprecedented."

2010: Spend and Spare Not, Obama

We must guard against "deficit hysteria." In "Fiscal Scare Tactics," his recent column, Krugman writes: "These days it's hard to pick up a newspaper or turn on a news program without encountering stern warnings about the federal budget deficit. The deficit threatens economic recovery, we're told; it puts American economic stability at risk; it will undermine our influence in the world. These claims generally aren't stated as opinions, as views held by some analysts but disputed by others. Instead, they're reported as if they were facts, plain and simple."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/02/11/krugman_bushs_deficit_bad_obamas_deficit_good_100258.html

When Hillary was going to win and the Election Can't Possibly be rigged:
"Overwhelming case for surge in Public Investment" May 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/opinion/remembrance-of-booms-past.html

After Trump won: "Deficits Matter Again" January 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/opinion/deficits-matter-again.html

marcus says

This is in spite of Trump, not becasue of him. I think the economy would have been similar with Clinton, but with way less new debt. . Because of the lower deficit spending, we might have had a recession by now, but that has to happen sooner or later anyway.

Will Medicare-for-all be revenue neutral and not impact the Deficit and National Debt?

rd6B says

ain't gonna work, R's had house for 2 yrs after tRUMP election and ZILCH!

Much worse than nothing we got increases, trillion plus deficits for years and that assumes growth and no recession. The OP is correct the tea baggers choked on loose pubes and decided Trump and Congress can spend and tax cut till we are all taking wheel barrows full of cash to buy a bag of groceries. United States of Zimbabwe.

I can't decide so I guess yes to both of them.

Batter Up!

They still had good years of psychopathic atrocities ahead of them. What a waste of waste.

At school they said Eric would be smarter if he were a brain in a jar.

As Harvey Weinstein would say: "Erective justice, not selective justice!"

Fortwaynemobile says

I think at this point no one gives a shit anymore. Everyone sees it as someone else’s credit card.

Just like the public. 30 Year mortgages - no problem. $100k College Debt - no problem. Max out credit cards - no problem. 5 year car loans - no problem. Even luxuries like boats and campers are bought on credit. Greedy fools do not realize one would be richer in the long run by living within one's means and avoid paying all that interest.

marcus says

NoCoupForYou says

All of a sudden the Democrats became Deficit Hawks, who woulda thunk it?

Actually, going back to at least Clinton, democrats have been clearly way more fiscally responsible than republicans.

You're right. The economy has been decent (only), with gdp growth to the obama years. What is it now ?

This is in spite of Trump, not becasue of him. I think the economy would have been similar with Clinton, but with way less new debt. . Because of the lower deficit spending, we might have had a recession by now, but that has to happen sooner or later anyway.

You are absolutely FOS.

Your idol and mentor repeatedly stated that debt could go to infinity provided that interest rates remained low.

Not one time did you counter that point. Not once.

Yet here we are.