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Oh look, the Economy is on fire, Unemployment at 50 year lows, strong wage gains not seen since the late 90s.

Predictions of economic collapse if OrangeManBad got in have been royally trounced and look ridiculous. Right down to the inability to work on the trade deficit and the inevitable rise of CHYNA.

All of a sudden the Democrats became Deficit Hawks, who woulda thunk it? I guess Medicare-for-all would be revenue-neutral, amirite?

NoCoupForYou says

All of a sudden the Democrats became Deficit Hawks, who woulda thunk it?

Actually, going back to at least Clinton, democrats have been clearly way more fiscally responsible than republicans.

You're right. The economy has been decent (only), with gdp growth to the obama years. What is it now ?

This is in spite of Trump, not becasue of him. I think the economy would have been similar with Clinton, but with way less new debt. . Because of the lower deficit spending, we might have had a recession by now, but that has to happen sooner or later anyway.

marcus says

Actually, going back to at least Clinton, democrats have been clearly way more fiscally responsible than republicans.

Clinton was forced into it by a Republican takeover of Congress in 1994.

As for caring about Deficits, that's only when the Dems aren't in Power:
2004: Not tax cuts! Deficits Horrible!

Back then, a disapproving Krugman called the deficit "comparable to the worst we've ever seen in this country. ... The only time postwar that the United States has had anything like these deficits is the middle Reagan years, and that was with unemployment close to 10 percent." Take away the Social Security surplus spent by the government, he said, and "we're running at a deficit of more than 6 percent of GDP, and that is unprecedented."

2010: Spend and Spare Not, Obama

We must guard against "deficit hysteria." In "Fiscal Scare Tactics," his recent column, Krugman writes: "These days it's hard to pick up a newspaper or turn on a news program without encountering stern warnings about the federal budget deficit. The deficit threatens economic recovery, we're told; it puts American economic stability at risk; it will undermine our influence in the world. These claims generally aren't stated as opinions, as views held by some analysts but disputed by others. Instead, they're reported as if they were facts, plain and simple."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/02/11/krugman_bushs_deficit_bad_obamas_deficit_good_100258.html

When Hillary was going to win and the Election Can't Possibly be rigged:
"Overwhelming case for surge in Public Investment" May 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/opinion/remembrance-of-booms-past.html

After Trump won: "Deficits Matter Again" January 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/opinion/deficits-matter-again.html

marcus says

This is in spite of Trump, not becasue of him. I think the economy would have been similar with Clinton, but with way less new debt. . Because of the lower deficit spending, we might have had a recession by now, but that has to happen sooner or later anyway.

Will Medicare-for-all be revenue neutral and not impact the Deficit and National Debt?

rd6B says

ain't gonna work, R's had house for 2 yrs after tRUMP election and ZILCH!

Much worse than nothing we got increases, trillion plus deficits for years and that assumes growth and no recession. The OP is correct the tea baggers choked on loose pubes and decided Trump and Congress can spend and tax cut till we are all taking wheel barrows full of cash to buy a bag of groceries. United States of Zimbabwe.

I can't decide so I guess yes to both of them.

Batter Up!

They still had good years of psychopathic atrocities ahead of them. What a waste of waste.

At school they said Eric would be smarter if he were a brain in a jar.

As Harvey Weinstein would say: "Erective justice, not selective justice!"

Fortwaynemobile says

I think at this point no one gives a shit anymore. Everyone sees it as someone else’s credit card.

Just like the public. 30 Year mortgages - no problem. $100k College Debt - no problem. Max out credit cards - no problem. 5 year car loans - no problem. Even luxuries like boats and campers are bought on credit. Greedy fools do not realize one would be richer in the long run by living within one's means and avoid paying all that interest.

marcus says

NoCoupForYou says

All of a sudden the Democrats became Deficit Hawks, who woulda thunk it?

Actually, going back to at least Clinton, democrats have been clearly way more fiscally responsible than republicans.

You're right. The economy has been decent (only), with gdp growth to the obama years. What is it now ?

This is in spite of Trump, not becasue of him. I think the economy would have been similar with Clinton, but with way less new debt. . Because of the lower deficit spending, we might have had a recession by now, but that has to happen sooner or later anyway.

You are absolutely FOS.

Your idol and mentor repeatedly stated that debt could go to infinity provided that interest rates remained low.

Not one time did you counter that point. Not once.

Yet here we are.

Maybe Trump is trying to spend all of the money so there wont be none left for the Liberal's forced gender reassignment surgery on our under 9yr old population.
It's a noble cause if you think about it.

Who does he think he is Pope Bendmydick?

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Interest is SATAN!'s paycheck!

Excellent way to put it. Now just be sure Satan pays you.

jazz_music says

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/one-year-after-trumps-election-revisiting-autocracy-rules-for-survival

I suspect Jazz is pulling our legs (or other body parts). The article is so retarded that a lefty who wrote it does not see that it is her, in fact, who is advocating for cancelling the Will of People (aka election of tRUMP), which seems like autocracy to me.

A few select quotes from that nonsense:

For months, we have been living with the very real threat of nuclear war with North Korea and the near-inevitability of irreversible and unmitigated climate change, made that much more catastrophic by the actions of the Trump Administration.

On the occasion of the first anniversary of the election, they vowed to begin weekly demonstrations demanding impeachment....

the last does seem like autocratic solution - as opposed to democratic solution of coming up with an electable platform and convincing voters that YOUR candidate is better than the Orange Monster, which seems to me should not be too difficult given the antics of our Orange leader.

@AF, are you prepared for another 5 years of the current shitshow?

Given that retardation of D's has risen to stratospheric levels, I believe this is >95% guaranteed.

Reliance on China would do that.

Take this as you will, but who do we owe and how do they make us pay it? (the debt) We don't live in a world with money trees, but think about it. Deficit spending is bad, but it ain't going away anytime soon.

NoCoupForYou says

All of a sudden the Democrats became Deficit Hawks, who woulda thunk it?

Just like how all the Nancy-boys suddenly became Russia hawks under Trump.

The hypocrisy is head spinning.

That said, I understand why Trump didn't want to touch deficits in his first term since all of the Democrat hacks will run adds of Trump throwing grandma off the cliff. Here is hoping he does something on it in his second term.

First they started to miss Dubya. Then rMoney. Now they miss Tea Party. But all of these were called LITERALLY HITLER not so long ago.

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says

First they started to miss Dubya. Then rMoney. Now they miss Tea Party. But all of these were called LITERALLY HITLER not so long ago.

Yep.

They can choke on it.

www.youtube.com/embed/_ul2OuvPOQE

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says

First they started to miss Dubya. Then rMoney. Now they miss Tea Party. But all of these were called LITERALLY HITLER not so long ago.

Fact Check: 100% TRUE






BuSShHitler!

I'm registered as a dem since the first time Hillary ran, probably why I get dead ballots.

OccasionalCortex says

socal2 says

They can choke on it.

...yeah, they can choke on Ivanka's clit!

Nice dig at the Dems, but we do not need any more Clinton, Bush, Obama, or Trump relatives or offspring running for President. I predict Nikki Haley will be the first female President.

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Pete-Buttigieg-San-Francisco-Queers-Against-Pete-15057323.php

"As LGBTQIA people our lives are layered and must have an intersectional framework in our analysis, organizing, and movement building," the website states. "We know that: Education justice is LGBTQIA justice. Racial and economic justice are LGBTQIA justice. Decarceration is LGBTQIA justice. Immigrant and refugee justice is LGBTQIA justice."

WTF is this word salad? LGBTQIA? You gotta be kidding me. What a waste of ink. F that shit. Don't be LGBTQIA.

Yes if it turns out that Bernie and Mini-Mike are the front runners, it will means the Democratic font runners are not even Democrats. Bernie has held office a an Independent and Bloomberg only held office as a Republican mayor. Democrats may not be able to win the Dem primary. But then again, one could say Trump was not really a Republican when he won the Republican primary.

WTF is this word salad? LGBTQIA?

It will get worse, when the "P" is added....

HeadSet says

WTF is this word salad? LGBTQIA?

It will get worse, when the "P" is added....

as in pedophile? Clown world indeed.

OccasionalCortex says

That's why I re-registered as a Democrat for the upcoming California primary.

Me too. Got my ballot the other day.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

And here Gym tied me to pipe - both hands; see the rope burns on wrists?! in the shower - for two weeks! Bus loads of conservative Congressmen had their way with my ASSHOLE! and satanic priests lead prayer sessions entreating the EVIL! ONE! to evict JESUS! from AMERICA!

Question is -*DID YOU ENJOY IT??? DO YOU VOTE REPUBLICAN NOW*?

@ Patrick, I can not sufficiently stress the seriousness of my question to AF as the ** do not seem to make any of my text bold. Perhaps satanic priests have had their way with your site's coding or with my mental abilities....

Has anybody ever encountered a Biden Shill outside of Media? Bernie Bros, Yang Gangers, Buttigieg Bangers, and Bloombergers are everywhere.

Biden and Warren supporters must all not be on twitter.

mell says

"As LGBTQIA people our lives are layered and must have an intersectional framework in our analysis, organizing, and movement building," the website states. "We know that: Education justice is LGBTQIA justice. Racial and economic justice are LGBTQIA justice. Decarceration is LGBTQIA justice. Immigrant and refugee justice is LGBTQIA justice."

WTF is this word salad? LGBTQIA? You gotta be kidding me. What a waste of ink. F that shit. Don't be LGBTQIA.

I just say “alphabet people” and have it done. Dave Chapelle showed us all the way.

I get all my worldly advice from a hermit in a shed.

"We're totally not obsessed with race, right wing idiot."

Hey Shed Pappy, tell me about dem race relations!

Sounds like a branch of the "Parties never switched/Democrats the true racist&slavers" bullshit cluster.

It's a good line for GF: "Coronavirus is spread by every sexual modality except oral and anal sex".

I popped my Bernie vote into the mail yesterday. It did make me feel a bit dirty. I washed my hands for a long time.