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Tim Aurora says

Patrick, I have been called libtards and many other names. I would have to use a different word, TCS ( Trump Cult Syndrome) comes to my mind. Would that be OK?

Right, I'm trying to get people to avoid libtard as well, as that is also divisive.

No, TCS would not be OK and you know why. The goal is to get us to think about our common interests and not just our differences.

Tim Aurora says

Patrick, I am sorry that you have had a negative experience with Blacks but that should not be the reason to vilify all blacks.

When did I vilify all blacks? Don't assume too much.

Patrick says

When did I vilify all blacks? Don't assume too much.

Duh! If you don’t adopt 100% of the Democrat party progressive line that being white is the original sin and black people are innocent in every situation then you are an unrepentant racist deplorable!
There is no middle ground, no gray areas, and definitely no room for truth or statistics that disprove their narrative! Truth is racist!

Tim Aurora says

It is about Police treating Blacks as "shit"

Even the black officers in Democrat jurisdictions? Are they racist too?

Tim Aurora says

Never expected anything better than that from you.

You do understand what he's saying, right? There are places in this country where the BS that happened in Minneapolis would never happen. A singular event cannot be cast upon the entire population and country. There are normal places out there where a cop like this one would have been fired after a dozen plus complaints. We all get to suffer because the city of Minneapolis/SP had shit policy and procedures, along with a dem. theory of unions being good, all voted on by the people that are now pissed. Do you not see the hypocrisy? It's pure lunacy at this point.

Patrick says

No, TCS would not be OK and you know why

So too by the same standards TDS is not OK?

socal2 says

Lots of local Democrat leaders support them.

Kim Gardner, the Soros installed prosecutor of St Louis just let every single rioter and looter arrested this week out of jail.
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1268195075953176576

wow, this is true. soros donates to her campaign: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/st-louis-circuit-attorney-candidate-defends-accepting-super-pac-campaign-money-from-liberal-billionaire/article_11036aaf-4b1b-58cd-871f-4084f1ec1485.html
and theres plenty of coverage on her releasing the looters.

soros seems to be involved in damn near everything dem. im guessing dems pay him back by doing his biddings or by letting him in on govt secrets so he can profit on it, from which he takes a slice of the money and donates back to democrats which reliably show their "appreciation" for his "donations".

edit - it appears soros also donated to the district attorney that let off jussie smollett.

Somebody at MoveOn hit "Publish" instead of "DM"

rdm says

Patrick says

No, TCS would not be OK and you know why

So too by the same standards TDS is not OK?

Patrick has said as much. So no, TDS would not be okay. He's also said things like libtard would be bad. We'll see how it plays out, but he's not picking a side with regards to what we call each other in some acronym. I like a lot of users on both sides here, but never understood the use of stuff/words/acronyms like that. I may have slipped up in the past myself, but it's generally something I avoid using. It adds little to the conversation.

personal

rdm says

WookieMan says

Patrick has said as much. So no, TDS would not be okay

My main problem with such acronyms is that they reduce complex issues to the simplistic and show a general laziness and or inability to respond to a question posed. They are in a way simply a FU or possibly a Foff by another name.

Tim Aurora says

You still do not get it. Have you ever talked to the blacks in the hood and how police harrases them. I have talked and I have stories to tell. It is not just one person killed. It is about Police treating Blacks as "shit"

Yet this happens in big liberal/progressive cities with Democrat mayors, Democrat city councils, Democrat Prosecutors and Democrats Chiefs of Police.

Why do black people keep electing these progressive racists that treat them so badly?

socal2 says

Democrats Chiefs of Police.

It was interesting I heard the Chief in NYC (white BTW) interviewed yesterday. He seemed more afraid of the the Police union then the Mayor. In Minneapolis only 6% of the police force lives in the city.

Tim Aurora says

Yes, some of them definitely are.

Onvacation says

Even the black officers in Democrat jurisdictions? Are they racist too?

Most dangerous and racist people are white liberals according to Malcolm X.

www.youtube.com/embed/a5HyL6QNGbM

If you can't watch, you can read it too:

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8869214-the-white-liberal-is-the-worst-enemy-to-america-and

In Minneapolis only 6% of the police force lives in the city.

Good to see that policy coming back to bite them in their ass.

Police should be required to live in the area they patrol.

It's happening folks - hearing rumbles through the grapevine in some smaller companies where black employees, even if fairly or even overrepresented relative to population, are demanding corporate changes. Expect lawyers, HR and many more tied up in this bullshit and many smaller companies bite the dust among scurrying to get fair representation of black, white, yellow, green, brown, blue, tranny, lgbtxyzawesomo or facing bullshit lawsuits. It's only going to be harder and harder to be an entrepreneur because of leftoid bullshit and race baiting like this. Divide and conquer brought to you by the leftoids in sponsorship with globalist billionaires and their corporations. you'll reap what you sow. I just feel sorry for the small business entrepreneurs already battered by Covid-10 bullshit lockdowns. Make our economy great and free again and vote the leftoid bums out!

NoCoupForYou says

rdm says

Do you have a legit source for this? Do you know personally anyone killed by a Black person?

Here we go again. In a few weeks, it'll be the same question as if it was not already answered with indisputable numbers that repeat the same trend year after year after year.

Why don't you just bookmark the source then, and the next time he asks, you immediately produce it - because although I've heard of this statistic, I don't readily have proof.

What are the exact numbers? Doesn't anybody know how to use a bookmark?

rdm says

My main problem with such acronyms is that they reduce complex issues to the simplistic and show a general laziness and or inability to respond to a question posed. They are in a way simply a FU or possibly a Foff by another name.

I tend to agree. When people use them, it's generally obvious who it's directed at and adds nothing to the conversation. I get a moment of frustration or something lost in conversation, but if it's being used constantly it's kind of annoying. Both sides do it, so it's not unique to any one user.

rdm says

He seemed more afraid of the the Police union then the Mayor.

Bingo. How many cops would be canned if light was shed on the inner working of the police force? I support cops, but at the same time hate their structure. Why should a union have so much power over elected officials? The public didn't elect the union and the public is now forced to negotiate against themselves regarding wages, all while the union protects actual fucking criminals. It's pure stupidity.

Antifa Victory: LA Mayor will cut police funding and restrict anti-gang enforcement. https://t.co/2x35LKIUhf via @Deadline

— Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) June 4, 2020

It's all part of the "Great Awokening". The typical White Liberal is now further to the left than the typical Black person (most of whom are themselves Registered Dems)

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/22/18259865/great-awokening-white-liberals-race-polling-trump-2020

We've documented this before - it's not the Right that has moved Right, but the Liberals who have moved Hard to Left on almost every issue over the past 30 years. Republicans stayed Economically Right (the only exception being to turn against Unlimited Trade Deficits) and moderated on Social Issues.

Can't make this shit up.

www.youtube.com/embed/D1FfSUpP_VE

socal2 says

Can't make this shit up.

www.youtube.com/embed/D1FfSUpP_VE

So the women who are doing dirty manual labor are "using their white privilege" now? Some fucking privilege.

socal2 says

Can't make this shit up.

www.youtube.com/embed/D1FfSUpP_VE

Karen strikes again, bonus points for "white privilege" mention. Maybe it's one of those trans gender Karens.

I hope like fuck you're right, and Corona is as deadly as Dr Frauduci says.
This last weekend should wipe out the whole Democrat demographic from 16 to 35.

That would be optimal for America's survival but we all know it's bullshit and a political hoax.

But My GOD a Boy can dream can't he?

Leftists, 2000: John Ashcroft put clothes on a nude statue, barbarism!
Leftists, 2010s: Animated Characters wearing Bikini Chainmail in Comics must be Banned - it's Barbarism.

WookieMan says

There are normal places out there where a cop like this one would have been fired after a dozen plus complaints.

The MSM keeps circling back to 16 or 17 previous complaints, but none of the so-called "news" outlets have been able to establish the validity or nature of the complaints. There's just one news report of a Kristofer Bergh, who claimed Chauvin inappropriately pulled a gun on him (and that does seem inappropriate of Bergh's claim is completely true). But that's it.

So, is 17 complaints in 20 years in a big city police force normal? How many people file complaints because they were mad that Chauvin caught them breaking the law? How many suspects, while running from Chauvin with the shoplifted goods still in their hands, complained of injury from being tackled to the ground?

SunnyvaleCA says

So, is 17 complaints in 20 years in a big city police force normal? How many people file complaints because they were mad that Chauvin caught them breaking the law? How many suspects, while running from Chauvin with the shoplifted goods still in their hands, complained of injury from being tackled to the ground?

We don't know. Unions are the protectors of these bad actors. They're not going to share the data. I think most good cops would rat out the bad one's, but the bad are protected. It's a flawed system. Not just with cops, but teachers, etc. Public sector unions are awful for the public.

I also get your point about frivolous complaints, but at some point when you rack enough up, there has to be some validity to them. Or there at least has to be some oversight and investigation into whether they're frivolous or not. The police unions will fight to the death to protect their own from ever being examined in that manner. These are policies that the left thought would be good for votes. Keep these people employed and they'll vote for you. They (cops) generally do vote left.

I know the system. I know multiple Chicago cops. I know the mayor and chief of police (who was considered for CPD chief job) in Aurora, IL (2nd largest city in IL) personally. The system is set up to get entrenched votes. If they told the truth the whole thing would backfire. So they deflect to racism. No normal person thinks racism is good. So blacks think the government is out to help them by pointing out the one bad cop is racist. All the while, the system is stabbing blacks in the back with the structure of police departments, which they essentially voted for in large cities. It's a self fulfilling prophecy if that makes sense.

FortWayneIndiana says

Karen strikes again, bonus points for "white privilege" mention. Maybe it's one of those trans gender Karens.

The ladies should have stated that they invite people of all colors to clean graffiti.

If even 90% of these were actual Trump Voters, I'll eat my hat.

Here's a random one who just looked like a punchable Liberal:



"Male Beauty Blogger" "Bicurious LGBT Friendly". Yeah, okay you voted Trump in 2016. Nice your account is only from Feb 2019.

WGAF?

Tim Aurora says

Russia hacked DNC

The hacking isn't the issue, it's the leaking of the emails that are alleged to have been exfiltrated from their server. And then we have sworn testimony from CloudStrike's CEO: "Crowdstrike says it believes Russians hacked into DNC. But it admits to not having direct evidence that Russians actually exfiltrated the emails from DNC. This would track w/ what Assange has said: Russia may have hacked DNC, but they didn’t provide stolen emails." ( https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/05/08/huge-crowdstrike-ceo-has-no-direct-evidence-russia-stoleexfiltrated-dnc-emails/ )

The guy who leaked the emails was murdered and his wallet left on the ground in a robbery not caught on tape in a city full of CCTV.

jazz_music says

covid_shmovid says

WGAF

over 3200 tweets currently in the thread.

Good. Biden's victory is assured then.

Would this be the case of a black cop shooing a white guy? The police chief, presumably the person "in charge," is black. Maybe people 1000 miles away from the incident should break into a Target store and steal some TVs as a way of protesting.

BONK!

Police in Vallejo, Calif., fatally shoot man with a hammer kneeling outside a Walgreens
Sean Monterrosa, 22, was outside a Walgreens that police say was being looted when he ran, then stopped in a half-kneeling position, police said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-vallejo-calif-fatally-shoot-man-hammer-kneeling-outside-walgreens-n1224621

Guardian: "Unarmed". A Hammer is a weapon, and a break in tool. As for half-kneeling, he tripped but was still trying to run.

I'm glad he was shot, shooting looters is normal. Not shooting them is radically transforming America.

jazz_music says

Americans have had enough ...

... and are marching for justice in unprecedented numbers.

Why did he chose to loot a pharmacy instead of joining fellow Americans in their marching for justice? Looks like he didn't care for Mr. Floyd's plight a single bit.

3200 tweets what's that cost 5$

NoCoupForYou says

Guardian: "Unarmed". A Hammer is a weapon, and a break in tool. As for half-kneeling, he tripped but was still trying to run.

I'm glad he was shot, shooting looters is normal. Not shooting them is radically transforming America.

No reason to shoot him. His hands were up - that is, if the story was true.

In any case:


He wasn't black, so the police will walk away scott free, and there will be no riots over it.

Vallejo PD carries bodycams, AFAIK. Also, if the officer was shooting from the cruiser, there must be a video from cruiser's camera too.