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111986   Onvacation   2020 Jun 18, 8:03am  

DILLIGAF says
Can we stop jumping to conclusions before thoroughly consuming the OP and the message conveyed ?





I hear you, but when I hear:DILLIGAF says
the US attorney general William Barr is ‘The Carl Schmitt Of Our Time’.


In other words Trump's attorney Barr is like Hitler's Attorney Schmitt. Thus Trump is literally Hitler.

Do you think Trump is like Hitler?
111987   Patrick   2020 Jun 18, 8:07am  

https://spectator.us/anti-racism-really-means-debate-white-fragility/

Robin DiAngelo, a New York Times bestselling scholar of the ‘critical whiteness’ aspect of Critical Race Theory, sees racism in everything. She explains what she calls ‘racism’ this way: ‘the question is not “did racism take place?” but instead “how did racism manifest in this situation?”’ In other words, all situations contain racism, and it is up to the anti-racist activist to uncover it. To do anything else is described as — you guessed it — being a ‘racist’ by upholding ‘racism’.

Second, understand how these ideas are used unfairly against you. The ‘anti-racism’ program offered by Critical Race Theory offers no neutrality. Everyone is either an ‘anti-racist’ or they are ‘racists’ by default. The lines of literature in which DiAngelo situates her claims clearly state that there is no such thing as being not-racist, and she repeatedly asserts that neutrality on this issue means favoring ‘racism’. Not even progressives are safe. DiAngelo writes, ‘white progressives cause the most daily damage to people of color. I define a white progressive as any white person who thinks he or she is not racist, or is less racist.’


So you can't win no matter what you say or do. You are automatically convicted of the "original sin" of racism just by being born with a low ranking in the Victimization Olympics.

The right answer, as Morgan Freeman pointed out, is to stop talking about it.

Just literally never talk about racism at all. Racism in the US is 99% imaginary, and kind of modern-day witchcraft assumed to exist to legitimate the witch-hunts. Don't perpetuate "racism" by letting them make you even use the word. This comment has to use it to make the point, but from now on, I'm going to make an effort to not even mention it, but instead to immediately switch to terms they have to use to continue the discussion:

the red pill
black crime matters
victimization olympics
western civilization
deep state
diversity of opinion
thoughtcrime
wrongthink
freedom to offend
virtue signaling
the censor's wedge
the religion without a name
violent leftists
the soft bigotry of low expectations
clown world
NPC
islam is right about women
blacks are right about gays
feels before reals (leftist denial of reality)
e pluribus unum
baizuo
111988   socal2   2020 Jun 18, 8:24am  

We literally have the "Far Left" burning down cities, looting, tearing down statues (including Lincoln and Abolitionists) and killing cops around the country in an orgy of EMO mob violence based on the LIE that Progressive Left-wing cities like Minneapolis are run by a bunch of racists..

We have Leftist mayors like DeBlasio threatening Jews and locking up parks frequented by Jews while he participates in massive BLM rallies.

And the Voxs of the world are still fretting about the "Alt-Right"?

WTAF?
111989   GNL   2020 Jun 18, 8:30am  

socal2 says
WTAF

What the apocalypse fuck?
111990   Shaman   2020 Jun 18, 8:31am  

Onvacation says
In other words Trump's attorney Barr is like Hitler's Attorney Schmitt. Thus Trump is literally Hitler.

Do you think Trump is like Hitler?


I don’t think that was the intent of the OP. The point was that Schmitt was a populist thinker, who did his best work under the Weimar Republic, and also did perhaps reluctantly work for the Nazis. Which is like saying that Facebook employees work for Zuckerberg.
111991   komputodo   2020 Jun 18, 8:48am  

Tim Aurora says
Once Trump has lost or gone, these people are not going away. They will come back with other white supremacists such as Spencer, etc. We need to be vigilant.

I really can't be bothered with that but I am confident that you will be vigilant enough for the both of us...Thanks in advance...Godspeed... and good luck.
111992   komputodo   2020 Jun 18, 8:53am  

Is this what you mean when you say ALT-RIGHT?
The 'alt-right' or 'alternative right' is a name currently embraced by some white supremacists and white nationalists to refer to themselves and their ideology, which emphasizes preserving and protecting the white race in the United States in addition to, or over, other traditional conservative positions such as limited government, low taxes and strict law-and-order.
If that is so, the POC that support Trump are in this ill defined group? lol
111993   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 18, 9:17am  

Tim Aurora says

I think Donald forgot the "." in D.rain the Swamp. BTW, D stands for Donald, so it is Donald rain the Swamp


This kind of wordplay joke my 2nd grader would make. Did your kid get a hold of your phone, Timmy?
111994   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 18, 10:18am  

I'm so sick of these KKK White Hood Guys and Confederate Reenactors going around and burning cities down, and when they are drunk in a parking lot, getting shot resisting arrest, and then the Goober White Trash burning the Wendy's down.

They're all on welfare, popping out future criminals. As soon as the Grand Dragons get probation, all the Linda Rae's are copulating with them and making more KKK Babies.

These White Supremacist Alt Right guys need to be taught a lesson.
111995   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 18, 10:25am  

komputodo says
preserving and protecting the white race in the United States ... limited government, low taxes and strict law-and-order


Ain't nothing wrong with any of that.
111996   Onvacation   2020 Jun 18, 11:08am  

The summary at the end of the article is that

The terminus of Schmittean logic is not ‘the people’ asserting control of elites, but an elite asserting control in the name of a nationalistic vision, the secular substitute for the divine right of the absolutist monarch. The legal debates of late Weimar shed a troubling light on our situation.

"an elite asserting control in the name of a nationalistic vision" is code for Trump. They're dog whistling to the progressives who often say "Trump is literally Hitler".
111997   Onvacation   2020 Jun 18, 11:49am  

DILLIGAF says
the merits or lack thereof concerning the legal concepts discussed in the OP

So what is the merit, or lack of, in your posted article? Please summarize the point you are trying to illustrate?
111998   Onvacation   2020 Jun 18, 2:07pm  

DILLIGAF says
It also eliminates me getting into a game of "gotcha" and entertaining you purely for the sake of your own amusement.

Ya. I hate that too. Reminds me of a duck I knew...
111999   NDrLoR   2020 Jun 18, 3:13pm  

"How does a 20 year old with no income get access to that kind of leverage/exposure?!"

That's a good question! I thought he'd be someone at least in his 30's! One of the things wrong with our whole economic system.
112000   theoakman   2020 Jun 18, 3:16pm  

Apparently, he doesn't understand the concept of bankruptcy, in that he was never going to have to pay anything.
112001   Rin   2020 Jun 18, 3:20pm  

His executive managing director needs to be fired and charged for fraud.

All accounts, esp one which use margin, need to periodically post available cash and pay for the margin used, esp for longer term trades.

Seriously, we have those reports continuously and so far, since our prop trading team is among the best, will never face a down quarter, nevermind a catastrophic loss like this bozo.
112002   NDrLoR   2020 Jun 18, 3:21pm  

theoakman says
Apparently, he doesn't understand the concept of bankruptcy, in that he was never going to have to pay anything.
Why don't you post this in FUCKCCp89, I didn't realize they'd already posted this and I'll take this one down after awhile.
112003   mell   2020 Jun 18, 5:24pm  

Lol the alt right is peaceful while the retarded left is burning down the cities. Whatchou talking about?!
112004   mell   2020 Jun 18, 5:43pm  

This is a load of bull in today's context. The problem of today's politics is that the rule of law is not upheld so that people are free to immigrate illegally, rape, kill and loot and burn down cities in the name of marxist ideologies. The US is currently in a state of Maoism and the so called strongmen are simply a reaction to this. They are not reactionary at all they simply stand for upholding the rule of law like the lefties used to do before being coopted by the cultural marxists.
112005   ignoreme   2020 Jun 18, 5:44pm  

I think at a certain level Tim and all the other libs on this site are questioning themselves now. Almost 4 years of Trump and none of their predictions have come true. Yet now they get to watch their side stir up race wars and enact draconian lockdowns all to win an election for a rapist. The cognitive dissonance must give them migraines.
112006   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 18, 5:49pm  

Rule of Law is not demanding Laws on the Books not be enforced.

Rule of Law is not declaring that police using tasers on aggressive drunks is deadly force, then a few days later declaring that the police weren't justified in using deadly force on an aggressive drunk using a deadly force taser on them.

Rule of Law is not declaring the Electoral College invalid because the winner didn't also get the popular vote, which is not how Presidential Elections have ever been run since 1792.

Rule of Law is not letting illegal aliens go for traffic and business violations, knowing they won't show up, while throwing the book at American Citizens for maximum revenue.
112007   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jun 18, 5:52pm  

When a Party consistently elbows out the Majority view, when it consistently interprets the law according to the Elite Intersectional Views of a minority, disregarding both the current popular understanding AND the lawmaker's intent when written, that's not Rule of Law.

When rioters and looters are called peaceful protesters, and claims to disorder are dismissed with mentions of fire insurance, by the mainstream press, that is antithetical to the rule of Law. And when those same organs that excuse riots of tens of thousands while protesting people using parks or attending a political rally, it's even worse.

The problem with the Left is that they always Overplay their hand.

Trump is doing the right thing by letting them do it.

NEVER interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake.

So many are being redpilled daily by the actions of the rioters and the COVID hypocrisy. I hope the Left creates more chaos in Hipster/Yuppie downtowns and cities like Seattle. The assholes who enabled it suffer the most.

The public will know who to blame, especially when it's their own ass and money on the line and they have to pay attention. When their tire store burns down, their home gets windows broken, their car gets smashed by angry mostly Leftwing White Trust Fund Babies citing Red Diaper Babies and 70s Black Panthers, they'll know who is at fault.

Everyday the disorder continues, thousands of ordinary Americans, and even some Hipster Yuppie Trust Fund Babies, are converted from Intersectional Fascism.

It's all fun and games, until Sarah Silverstein and Martin Lethbridge-von Pfliffen IV come down from their $800k condo to witness their Beamer a complete wreck.
112008   mell   2020 Jun 18, 5:55pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Rule of Law is not demanding Laws on the Books not be enforced.

Rule of Law is not declaring that police using tasers on aggressive drunks is deadly force, then a few days later declaring that the police weren't justified in using deadly force on an aggressive drunk using a deadly force taser on them.


Right the law is written out clearly and there's not much room for interpretation. Contracts are there to be upheld and not tossed aside for people's feelings, grievances or hate. If you come here you must do so legally otherwise you're a criminal breaking the law. You can be sympathetic towards those but you can't change their definition or consequences as intended by the law. You must change the law first. I consider the US currently a moderately lawless nation. If they can't get a grip on this it will no doubt hurt the nation badly.
112009   richwicks   2020 Jun 18, 6:06pm  

DILLIGAF says
https://aeon.co/essays/carl-schmitts-legal-theory-legitimises-the-rule-of-the-strongman


I need to point something out - notice there's no place in there to make a comment on the article?

That's a big red flag to not even bother to read it.

When you have one person speaking that is so fragile that they cannot accept feedback, you're reading propaganda. You are ALWAYS reading propaganda when you are not allowed to provide feedback today.

The reason our propaganda "news" took away commenting is people like me pointed out they were lying through their teeth. Now I don't know a ton about law, so I can't really comment much on the article, but there are people who do - who also can't comment on the article. Ignore bullshit opinions when the pussies can't accept a critique. This is universal. If you see a video on youtube that has comments turned off - ignore it. Same with any "news" article - ignore it.
112010   Shaman   2020 Jun 18, 7:07pm  

ignoreme says
I think at a certain level Tim and all the other libs on this site are questioning themselves now. Almost 4 years of Trump and none of their predictions have come true. Yet now they get to watch their side stir up race wars and enact draconian lockdowns all to win an election for a rapist. The cognitive dissonance must give them migraines.


Yep it’s gotta be hard to be the last one Left...
112011   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 18, 10:49pm  

Patrick says
they only used a net to capture the animal and transport it away from the area.


They should do the same to the smelly bums.
112012   Dholliday126   2020 Jun 18, 11:28pm  

So what's the alt-left?
112013   Ceffer   2020 Jun 18, 11:59pm  

Mountain Lions around my neighborhood in Tri Valley. Wife and I were walking dog and we saw the llon peering at us from a bush coming around a corner couple of years ago.
That was our first sighting. We were both scared shitless, and walked away very fast.

We are gone half the week, so one lion must have decided to use our bushes as a domicile. I heard him right outside my study window twice growling and chirping. It left scats on our front door area.

After the last four point temblor, the next evening, we were walking down the path dividing the development. I saw a bunch of eyes bobbing and presumed them to be deer, but they weren't acting like deer. Then, i thought coyotes and shone my light over and saw the haunches and long tail. There were four of them gamboling like they were having fun, presumably a mom and her nearly grown pups. Scared shitless again, and one of them when we looked back stared at us as we went down the path. I reported that one, but I don't think they believed me. If you don't have pix, they think it is too improbable. However, around Santa Cruz, security cameras have been picking up lions in people's driveways.

Then, again a couple of weeks later, when walking in the dark, We saw a lion in the headlights of a car going by run right by our house running from the arroyo into the neighborhood. When we went up our walkway, another cat was headed for us, a bobcat, and turned and high tailed it away from us when it saw us. I think the big cat (mountain lion) had been chasing the bobcat and the bobcat made a stage left right toward us. Anyway, scared shitless a third time. Wife won't walk in the dark any more.

They say that mountain lions need a very large area per cat, but I don't believe it. They are very stealthy, and are clearly around a lot more than they say. Hippie guy who rides his bike early in the morning at 5:30 AM says he has seen lions in the arroyo, as well as wild pigs, coyotes etc. We can see where the pigs have dug things up, but have never seen them yet.

Nature is staging a comeback.
112014   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 Jun 19, 4:33am  

Was it a black panther? BPLM!
112015   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Jun 19, 7:18am  

jazz_music says
joshuatrio says
What you would consider the hard left?
Yeah, why not post study that finds the hard left to be a bunch of hateful low lifes with a major obsession on vengeance for their supposed victimhood? Like Clinton voters?

And what about those emails?


One wouldn’t expect a member of the hard left to form a coherent response.

Fact is leftist mayors and governors are allowing the far left to run amock and commit violent crimes left and right. No such situation exists on the right nor are supremecists being funded in any appreciable manner.

Meanwhile the four squad members are steering the Deomocrat party and a freaking communist almost got their nomination for president twice.

Lol@Vox.
112016   porkchopXpress   2020 Jun 19, 7:34am  

Sorry, I just have to respond to this. You Lefties are out of your mind:

100K+ dead in COVID. - this is Trump's fault lol? You'll be blaming Trump next for your wife cheating.

No North Korea treaty - huh? There never has been a treaty with NK. The fact that Trump had been meeting with their leader is historic.

No China treaty - they've been stealing our IP and want to destroy us, and you're upset we don't have a treaty with China? Seems like you'd gladly cut off your balls and hand them to China or BLM protestors in solidarity.

13% unemployment - COVID maybe? Oh yea...it's all Trump's fault.

Institutions getting dismantled - not sure what the hell this means, but good idea throwing it in there to try and support your foundationless point.
112017   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Jun 19, 7:39am  

Tim Aurora says
100K+ dead in COVID. No North Korea treaty, No China treaty. 13% unemployment. Institutions getting dismantled,

Yeah, you are right, it is much worse than I predicted.

ignoreme says
I think at a certain level Tim and all the other libs on this site are questioning themselves now. Almost 4 years of Trump and none of their predictions have come true. Yet now they get to watch their side stir up race wars and enact draconian lockdowns all to win an election for a rapist. The cognitive dissonance must give them migraines.



This is a batshit insane interpretation of events.

Baby eats marble...”omg fucking horrible baby”!!!
112018   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Jun 19, 7:40am  

Tim Aurora says
So far, all the killings are being done by Alt-right.

mell says
Lol the alt right is peaceful while the retarded left is burning down the cities. Whatchou talking about?!



Wat?!!’! Multiple people died in the protests and riots, including police. Are you just blind to the slew of videos showing that?
112019   WookieMan   2020 Jun 19, 8:01am  

I'm an independent with right leanings and some left. Let's say 60R/40L. Can any of the left leaning people explain what Alt-right is and what portion of the population it makes up? Tim, Jazz, Marcus, etc..

If you're talking about white supremacy, racism, KKK types, you do know it's only like 1% of the entire population at best. Likely substantially lower. I don't like those people, but it's literally not a problem in the US. Hasn't been for decades. I don't know of one person claiming to be like this in my personal sphere. So I'd really love to know the definition of alt-right.

I'm friends with a ton of people that are liberal, leftist and downright wanting socialism. Quite a few actually, well a ton, lol. They rant and rant and rant about shit they don't understand. You know why they don't understand? They're jealous. Their arguments are based on pure fiction. So they throw a hissy fit because they don't have what others have. It's sad.
112020   WookieMan   2020 Jun 19, 8:18am  

Tim Aurora says
Late response and bugling to the extreme

porkchopexpress says
100K+ dead in COVID. - this is Trump's fault lol? You'll be blaming Trump next for your wife cheating.

https://patrick.net/post/1333124/2020-06-18-the-covid-19-smoking-gun

Watch it. Whole way through. Let me know if it's Trump's fault. Could the video be bullshit, sure. But it seems legit. If shit like this is/was going on, COVID has zilch to do with Trump. Nada. Nothing. He could have responded in December and the deaths according to this video, would have still happened in March.

I know multiple nurses and a couple of doctors. You need to talk to people on the ground level. Not news stories. COVID is nothing. I have the data direct from hospitals in the Chicago Metro region including parts of WI and IN. COVID is not what you think it is and what you're being told. It also has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. If anything he's botched the response by going too far with suggesting shut downs and the like. He basically destroying the economy for Grandma. He got bad advice or made a bad decision on his own. Yet you're somehow trying to peg the deaths on him? The logic is backward.
112021   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 19, 8:33am  

Explain the existence of police in Commie states then, you two fucking geniuses.
112022   RWSGFY   2020 Jun 19, 8:42am  

WookieMan says
The logic is backward


It's Timmy you're arguing with. The guy who made this "clever" joke:

Tim Aurora says
I think Donald forgot the "." in D.rain the Swamp. BTW, D stands for Donald, so it is Donald rain the Swamp


Cut him some slack.
112023   Onvacation   2020 Jun 19, 9:36am  

DILLIGAF says

Does this line of thinking also apply to listening / hearing propaganda like when Potus and or the press secretary cannot accept feedback or storm off the stage because they did not like the question(s)

"Mr. Trump, Are you still a rapist who molests women?"
112024   Onvacation   2020 Jun 19, 9:39am  

DILLIGAF says
Other than Shaman who figured out what the essay was about, anyone else who commented not catch the parts in the essay in the OP it was not all about the U.S. ?

The article was bullshit equating Trump to strongman dictators.

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