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39539   bob2356   2013 Nov 17, 7:08pm  

Homeboy says

So if that is your major complaint, that ACA "changes who pays", it's a rather absurd criticism, don't you think? You simply CAN'T say (at least not with a straight face) that socializing medicine wouldn't change who pays.

Pretty funny you have to resort to using "socialized medicine" as some kind of code word.

No I dont't think it's absurd at all. Yes "socialized medicine" changes who pays. Everyone pays into the pot. Income taxes, vat, gst, capital gains, inheratance tax, wealth tax, whatever. Everyone takes out their health care. The wealthy do subsidize the poor, but that's how government social programs all work. I don't agree with aca's intergeneration subsidy. You think it's just fine.

No, my major complaint isn't the subsidies. That's ONE of my major complaints. You really haven't thought through the bigger implications of aca. It's a seismic shift. It's a really dangerous piece of legislation. Stop right there. I don't hate it, I'm at best dispassionate. First of all, repeating once again, it won't solve the real problem of increasing costs which will still have to be addressed at some future point. The part that is dangerous is it's the first law that people are compelled to buy a private product, and the first law where people are given money to buy a specific product in an ongoing permement basis. The key word is first. It breaks new ground. Have you ever seen government do something new then not continue to do it? What will be next? That thought scares me.

39540   Bigsby   2013 Nov 17, 8:00pm  

I'm not sure it's that big a deal. Governments have compelled you to pay taxes so that they can buy private industry products since you became a wage earner. I'm quite sure you aren't particularly happy with the way those different governments have used much of that money. ACA involves a more direct process, but at least a good number of people will benefit from it.
Still, you'd be a lot better off with say the French system.

39541   bg   2013 Nov 17, 9:17pm  

AF,

You are awesome. So glad you are here :-)

39542   lostand confused   2013 Nov 17, 10:03pm  

Was he a realtor?

39543   Dan8267   2013 Nov 17, 10:24pm  

“It would seem he acted because of voices, messages that he was receiving and that were telling him to act in this way. Those are his first statements,” she said.

Same reason Bush invaded Iraq. Elect this guy president. Can't be worse than the last two.

39544   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Nov 17, 11:40pm  

He must be French, as he took the time to consider the best side dishes to pair with his human tripe.

39545   monkframe   2013 Nov 18, 12:02am  

Bravo. One can see why the bribed politicians fought so hard to keep the new consumer protection bureau from starting work.

39546   zzyzzx   2013 Nov 18, 12:07am  

BBQ sauce would have been my first choice.

39547   NDrLoR   2013 Nov 18, 1:15am  

Why would he be homeless? I thought in France they took care of everybody.

39548   Ceffer   2013 Nov 18, 3:06am  

They plan on releasing him periodically in the shanty towns with a proper armamentarium and recommendations for snail garnish.

39549   bubblesitter   2013 Nov 18, 3:44am  

Let's blame the government for not doing enough to keep the prices artificially inflated.

39550   bubblesitter   2013 Nov 18, 3:49am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

lostand confused says

Was he a realtor?

Is there any doubt?

He should not be charged of any crime.

39551   Dan8267   2013 Nov 18, 3:49am  

The really sad thing about this story is that he still couldn't please Gordon Ramsay.

39552   smaulgld   2013 Nov 18, 4:23am  

bgamall4 says

bubblesitter says

Let's blame the government for not doing enough to keep the prices artificially inflated.

You have to have a demand for housing. As the article says, the demand is only from investors and not from real homeowners. And many of these are Wall Street firms who will be in and maybe out. It will be interesting to see if the bundling of rents into bonds, like mbs in the past, will drive investors to hoard even more.

Correct-in then out. What happens to these real estate investments when their yield is capped out and the stock market is still soaring because of QE? They'll dump their real estate.

39553   Blurtman   2013 Nov 18, 5:23am  

Should have just had the McRib sandwich instead.

39554   ttsmyf   2013 Nov 18, 5:53am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Monday, November 18, 2013 __ Level is 101.9

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

39555   HEY YOU   2013 Nov 18, 6:55am  

What happens when fracking water pollution & problems affect many Rep/Con/Teas homes & land? It's OK. They vote against their own interest.

39556   smaulgld   2013 Nov 18, 6:56am  

bgamall4 says

smaulgld says

Correct-in then out. What happens to these real estate investments when their yield is capped out and the stock market is still soaring because of QE? They'll dump their real estate.

That is certainly one scenario. But remember when the stocks tanked in the dot com bubble. Could we be looking at a shift to a real estate bubble from companies exiting the stock market?

When stocks tank the housing bubble crashes esp in SF.
BUT housing could tank and the stock market can keep going higher

39557   smaulgld   2013 Nov 18, 7:14am  

bubblesitter says

Let's blame the government for not doing enough to keep the prices artificially inflated.

Home builder ARE blaming government!
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/11182013_builder_confidence.asp

39558   smaulgld   2013 Nov 18, 7:45am  

If only the government had not shut down.... http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/11182013_builder_confidence.asp

39559   epitaph   2013 Nov 18, 7:45am  

Blaming the government is this country's favorite pastime.

39560   smaulgld   2013 Nov 18, 7:49am  

bgamall4 says

I have a counterintuitive idea, that stocks will crash, easy money barriers will lift, and even more investors will pile into housing. I hope I am wrong.

mmmm interesting-that COULD happen if rates stay low

39561   HydroCabron   2013 Nov 18, 9:28am  

Oct. 26, 1965: The Selective Service declares that married men without children, who were previously exempted from the draft, will now be called up. Married men with children remain exempt.

July 28, 1966: Elizabeth Cheney is born

39562   Bubbabeefcake   2013 Nov 18, 10:38am  

egads101 says do you like your own posts on facebook?

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Wrong as usual!.....Bubba likes every one that is a grim reminder of what 2014 has in store !

39563   Vicente   2013 Nov 18, 1:14pm  

Any sexual act that is not procreation is a sin DUH!

Sex should be missionary, in the dark, with a Christian radio station playing softly in the background.

39564   rooemoore   2013 Nov 18, 1:46pm  

Old farts enjoy Adele. Her voice and songs aren't too different from Dusty Springfields 40+ years ago. My 70 year old uncle loves her.

Also, this is a couple of years old. That's practically a generation in web time.

Finally, and perhaps of most interest to you, the first clip if played backwards at 1.7 times speed has an unmistakable message about 9/11.

39565   mell   2013 Nov 18, 1:46pm  

Come on now, no match for the greatest performance at the Royal Albert Hall ever:

39566   Vicente   2013 Nov 18, 1:58pm  

The bottom is in, buy now or be priced out forever!

39567   ChapulinColorado   2013 Nov 18, 2:09pm  

"What's With Liz Cheney's Hatred of Eating Pussy?"

By APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller

Ahhh yes.... Face is not the only thing on the menu!

39568   mell   2013 Nov 18, 2:16pm  

Vicente says

Any sexual act that is not procreation is a sin DUH!

Depends on your church - that's the great thing about freedom of religion!

39569   ChapulinColorado   2013 Nov 18, 2:20pm  

Vicente says

Any sexual act that is not procreation is a sin DUH!

Sex should be missionary, in the dark, with a Christian radio station playing softly in the background.

Hey, we have a Republican...

Afraid to take it! A little retentive aren't you? Feeling uptight... Try some KY Jelly.

39570   ChapulinColorado   2013 Nov 18, 2:34pm  

Liz Cheney hates her father... She cringes at "Dick". She's not alone. That is also why I too am a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

Where's my waitress?

39571   ChapulinColorado   2013 Nov 18, 2:42pm  

Liz's father is enough to stigmatize an entire planet, heaven and hell.bgamall4 says

ChapulinColorado says

That is also why I too am a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

You cringe at Liz's father? Or just at D***?

39572   ChapulinColorado   2013 Nov 18, 2:48pm  

imagine life without a menu.... That is apocalyptic

I'd rather choose what to eat

face is not the only thing on the menu!


Eating beavers rock!

39573   ChapulinColorado   2013 Nov 18, 2:57pm  

By the way... I'm not that dark.... feeding off just APOCALYPSEFUCK'S dark side. or is it A-"PUCK"-A-"LIPS"-FUCK?

39574   ChapulinColorado   2013 Nov 18, 3:05pm  

bgamall4 says

Watch out, he has a reputation. Ladies man. He is an indiscriminate feeder from what I hear.

AP likes Yams, face, and 'taters.... He knows how to survive!

39575   ChapulinColorado   2013 Nov 18, 3:10pm  

bgamall4 says

Watch out, he has a reputation. Ladies man. He is an indiscriminate feeder from what I hear.

Just having some fun... no mean no harm or offend no one. Peace.

39576   Bigsby   2013 Nov 18, 3:15pm  

Before you knew she was becoming famous but not before she was already famous.

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