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39966   anonymous   2013 Dec 5, 9:09pm  

As to the old gold predictions, you won't be able to cite some of them because patrick nixed the other old forum and consolidated everyone to this wordpress one.

I remember him being very vocal about buying gold before it hit 800. Captain shuddup used to post there as tenpoundbass, vicente can confirm I remember him buying one or two neat commemorative gold coins for around 850? Elliemae posted there as well,,,can't remember any other current posters from that forum that are still active here. Oakman,,,maybe

39967   marco   2013 Dec 5, 9:28pm  

Who'd be so stupid as to blend a realtor, when you'd have to dispose the contaminated blender in a toxic waste dump?

39968   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 5, 11:41pm  

I've never seen so many people bitch about FREE information provided to help them in all my life...

And that's just discussing politics with the Patnet Liberals!

39969   tatupu70   2013 Dec 5, 11:44pm  

Call it Crazy says

Let's see, you've been here 4 years and have started 16 thread topics for discussion... 4 a year.... one a quarter... Hmmmmmm..

Is that your measure of a troll--how many topics are started?

39970   tatupu70   2013 Dec 6, 12:08am  

Reality says

No wonder you are such a loser in real life, and have to spend all your time online bashing people. What, the wife is too ugly for you to get it up?

And the meltdown continues....

39971   Robert Sproul   2013 Dec 6, 12:19am  

Reality says

What, the wife is too ugly for you to get it up?

Well!
We have a winner of the Ignorant Fucking Prick Award!

39972   Reality   2013 Dec 6, 12:26am  

Robert Sproul says

Well!

We have a winner of the Ignorant Fucking Prick Award!

I'm a quick learner.

39973   Y   2013 Dec 6, 12:30am  

It would be a shadow backup website, existing in the shadows of patrick.net.
Anything posted to patrick.net would be posted to the shadow backup.
The shadow backup could be viewed, but not edited or posted to.
It would be a repository for everything ever posted to patrick.net, deletions/modifications not allowed.

39974   Y   2013 Dec 6, 12:35am  

Well, that's a 1 in 24589 chance you are correct.

New Renter says

I've already referenced the info on the assessors website. It took a little extra effort as using the address did not work but the parcel number (111-041-018) did. The property deed was recorded in 8/26/2011 with a Lafayette residential address for the owner

39975   Analyzer   2013 Dec 6, 1:11am  

The only consistent truth on Patrick.net is that no poster has EVER been wrong..................in their own mind.

39976   Reality   2013 Dec 6, 1:16am  

Analyzer says

The only consistent truth on Patrick.net is that no poster has EVER been wrong..................in their own mind.

Exactly! The ducky fraudster has been parading his ignorance about economics even after repeatedly citing graphs that prove the exact opposite what he tried to prove . . . even after being shown that he didn't even know what GDP components are. Yet he had the balls to falsely accuse others of being fraud with absolute certainty just because other people knew things that he did not know and disagreed with him.

39977   FortWayne   2013 Dec 6, 1:34am  

I say go to the root of the problem... the bankers and politicians. Bankers who screw us all, and politicians who are nothing more than the front-line PR men for the bankers.

39978   Dan8267   2013 Dec 6, 1:36am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

PatNet Survey: Do REALTORS Blend?

The real question: blend or microwave?

http://www.youtube.com/embed/bu6NGUDoi30

39979   Reality   2013 Dec 6, 1:56am  

New Renter says

Ah yes, Miss Right:

New Renter says

Always sexy, never has a headache. She has a sister too!

LOL. No, she proved herself not to be Ms. Right. Unfortunately, real life young women can be headaches, or even heart-breaks, from time to time. Such is life. She got pregnant with someone else' kid at the beginning of this year during an alleged one-night stand because I was too busy with renovating houses and hunting down houses late last year . . . and couldn't bring herself to abort it until it was so late in pregnancy that I refused. That also explains why I have more time for you ducks this year. She was not high maintenance, but being a pretty girl, she always had numerous other offers all the time, most of which can be disastrous to herself, like now she finds herself in. I'm still debating whether to help her for old time's sake or cut her off entirely.

39980   New Renter   2013 Dec 6, 1:59am  

Reality says

New Renter says

Ah yes, Miss Right:

New Renter says

Always sexy, never has a headache. She has a sister too!

LOL. No, she proved herself not to be Ms. Right. Unfortunately, real life young women can be headaches, or even heart-breaks, from time to time. Such is life. She got pregnant with someone else' kid at the beginning of this year during an alleged one-night stand because I was too busy with renovating houses and hunting down houses late last year . . . and couldn't bring herself to abort it until it was so late in pregnancy that I refused. That also explains why I have more time for you ducks this year. She was not high maintenance, but being a pretty girl, she always had numerous other offers all the time, most of which can be disastrous to herself, like now she finds herself in. I'm still debating whether to help her for old time's sake or cut her off entirely.

Speaking of writing styles you are sounding an awful lot like RFHTC.

39981   Reality   2013 Dec 6, 2:02am  

New Renter says

Speaking of writing styles you are sounding an awful lot like RFHTC.

IIRC, RFHTC is in CA, whereas I'm on the east coast, snow belt.

39982   New Renter   2013 Dec 6, 2:41am  

Reality says

Yes seriously. Like you asked yourself, what kind of person has enough time to make 19k posts; the same question should be asked of the account making nearly 16k posts.

Someone who enjoys chatting on PatNet.

39983   humanity   2013 Dec 6, 3:08am  

You forgot to include Patricks poll/survey interface in your post.

To create a poll, just create a thread as usual, but at the end of your thread content, precede each of your poll response options with the new "r" tag I made up:

http://patrick.net/?

I was going to do a sample here, but I guess it only works in the initial thread post .

39984   Ceffer   2013 Dec 6, 3:11am  

They look too much like baby vomit when blended. Chop makes them look like dog food.

39985   New Renter   2013 Dec 6, 3:45am  

Reality says

Yet it's extremely impolite to post photo of the home of another person in the same discussion,

Still you try to divert attention from the fact YOU posted the address of someone you acknowledge you are not friendly with.

39986   HEY YOU   2013 Dec 6, 5:19am  

They would blend perfectly into a Pile of Shit.

39987   New Renter   2013 Dec 6, 5:25am  

Ah someone has already disliked my thread - I wonder who that could be...

39988   ttsmyf   2013 Dec 6, 6:10am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Friday, December 6, 2013 __ Level is 102.5

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

39989   zzyzzx   2013 Dec 6, 7:56am  

/?p=1227424

Q. What do you get when you stab a Realtor 30 times?
A. An erection, and over 30 places to stick it.

Q. What does a Realtor look like in a microwave?
A. I don't know. I was too busy masturbating.

Q. What's the difference between a dead Realtor and a rock?
A. You can't skullfuck a rock through the eyesocket.

Q. Whats worse then finding a dead Realtor in your bed in the morning?
A. Realizing that you had sex with it the night before.

Q. What's the difference between a Cadillac and a pile of dead Realtors?
A. I don't have a Cadillac in my garage.

Q. What is the worst part about killing a Realtor?
A. Getting blood on your clown suit.

Q. How do you make a dead Realtor float?
A. Take your foot off of it's head.

39990   everything   2013 Dec 6, 11:24am  

Yes, debt is the only solution we have right now, and it works well, just right the debts off/down and have the govt. bail yah out if need be.

IF the banksters can make enough in interest on the front end of all this debt that's really all that matters. So the trick is to just keep the party going.

39991   HydroCabron   2013 Dec 7, 2:21am  

We're waiting for the rest of the REALTORS® to have similar moments of reflection.

http://longnow.org/clock/

Designed by Danny Hillis, the Clock is designed to run for ten millennia with minimal maintenance and interruption. The Clock is powered by mechanical energy harvested from sunlight as well as the people that visit it. The primary materials used in the Clock are marine grade 316 stainless steel, titanium and dry running ceramic ball bearings. The entire mechanism will be installed in an underground facility in west Texas.

39992   HydroCabron   2013 Dec 7, 6:27am  

Why not vitrification as a means of realtor disposal? Melt mixture of glass and boron, add realtors to mixture, then pour into steel canisters, a la Hanford. Store in geologically stable formation.

If and when the Hanford vitrification plant gets cranking, I think realtor would mix nicely with strontium-90, cesium-137, plutonium, and the rest of the periodic table collected in those storage tanks. Realtors could run the place, sparing normal people the hazards of working there.

39993   anonymous   2013 Dec 7, 6:36am  

Wait...I thought gov't payer solutions forcing lower prices on doctors wouldn't have any unintended consequences. I don't understand.

39994   FortWayne   2013 Dec 7, 7:00am  

I don't understand, why would Doctors have a fit over this? Obamacare is just insurance carrying requirement, it doesn't change the insane prices.

It's still fee for service model.

39995   HydroCabron   2013 Dec 7, 7:12am  

“Enrollment doesn’t mean access, because there aren’t enough doctors to take the low rates of Medicaid,” warns one health director. “There aren’t enough primary care physicians, period.”

How touching, this newfound concern for the supply of physicians.

I was under the impression that the only interest physicians took in the supply of providers was to shrink it by limiting the number of teaching hospitals.

39996   curious2   2013 Dec 7, 7:29am  

FortWayne says

why would Doctors have a fit over this?

Once patients have paid for the mandatory insurance, they tend to stay in network, where co-payments may also be subsidized. It is very difficult for independent doctors to compete with insurance networks.

Imagine if you are running an independent sandwich shop. Now imagine a McDonald's opens across the street. You might think, OK, my food is better and healthier than McDonald's, I can compete. But now imagine McDonald's pays politicians to require everyone to submit to McDonaldCare, so their food budget goes to McDonald's whether they want that or not. (And Homeboy shouts about the wonderful subsidies, because everyone should be able to swallow McDonald's junk "food".) You know that your food is better and healthier, but customers might not know or care, so they spend what's left of their food budget on whatever appears cheapest. You can't compete with McDonald's subsidized prices unless you sacrifice quality, and if you don't cut prices you won't have enough customers left to stay in business.

If you read how little insurance companies pay providers for basic services, you might see why so many providers in the insurance system upsell to more expensive "services", even if they make the patient worse off. Honest practitioners, who learned their profession to help people, try to get out of the insurance system if they can. Now that everyone is required to pay for insurance, honest independent work becomes more difficult.

39997   Robert Sproul   2013 Dec 7, 8:03am  

One business model to deliver primary care that seems intriguing is Direct Primary Care. Similar in my understanding to "Concierge" practices but they take no insurance of any kind, strictly cash. Imagine the savings in staffing costs in a clinic with no insurance billing, hell no billing of any kind.
Are you familiar c2?

39998   Bellingham Bill   2013 Dec 7, 8:16am  

tatupu70 says

You need a tax structure to slow this natural trend. A flat tax by itself doesn't lead to inequality--it just doesn't stop it. A progressive tax does.

Even the Nordic eurosocialist paradises are starting to fray at the edges due to idiotic housing/land policies.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-14/denmark-feeds-world-s-biggest-private-debt-as-caps-rejected.html

Gotta tax land, first and foremost.

If you do that, you've fixed a lot; don't do that, and you haven't fixed much, since land is always the source and sink of all wealth, until we invent antigravity, teleportation, or all live in vats.

39999   anotheraccount   2013 Dec 7, 9:05am  

New Renter says

Gold only hit $1200/oz in April of 2010 - how were American mines able to be worked profitably before that date?

Also what about international mines, what might their break even cost/oz be?

This is the same question I have. In 2004, the cost to dig out an ounce of gold was $300. All of sudden it got to $1200 in less than a decade.

I do not understand mining industry well and many pundits claim this as a reason that a supply of gold will go down sharply if prices drop below 1200.

40000   tatupu70   2013 Dec 7, 9:06am  

Bellingham Bill says

Gotta tax land, first and foremost.

I don't necessarily disagree, but I don't see how you could ever implement such a tax policy from where we are now.

40001   curious2   2013 Dec 7, 9:08am  

Robert Sproul says

Are you familiar c2?

Yes, but because they don't take insurance, their patient base will be limited to people who still have enough left over after paying for the mandatory insurance.

40002   Reality   2013 Dec 7, 9:15am  

Robert Sproul says

One business model to deliver primary care that seems intriguing is Direct Primary Care. Similar in my understanding to "Concierge" practices but they take no insurance of any kind, strictly cash. Imagine the savings in staffing costs in a clinic with no insurance billing, hell no billing of any kind.

Are you familiar c2?

Of course skipping insurance paper pushing would make medical service less expensive. That's why the insurance lobby bought Obamacare -- to head off the cost savings by requiring everyone, especially those still have any money in their pockets, to buy useless insurance. The ideal medical insurance from the insurance company's view is one that covers every medical procedure, but has no doctor in the network available to render service . . . therefore you pay for the insurance but can never get the insurance company to pay for any bill. In order to sell such a policy, government mandate is necessary.

40003   Reality   2013 Dec 7, 9:21am  

Bellingham Bill says

Gotta tax land, first and foremost.

If you do that, you've fixed a lot; don't do that, and you haven't fixed much, since land is always the source and sink of all wealth, until we invent antigravity, teleportation, or all live in vats.

What is "land"? Even Henry George himself had to re-define in the second phase of his Georgism "land" as anything that is government granted monopoly; e.g. patent, exclusive license, etc. etc..

In today's world, talks about "land" is a distraction, when the biggest monopoly is "money." Even buying land usually necessitates the buyer to rent money.

Antigravity and teleportation are quite unnecessary for drastically more land to be available: self-driving cars will suffice for a long time. . . just like automobile and highways enabled drastic increase in home ownership in the mid-20th century: by making large tracts of formerly nearly useless land into metropolitan land.

40004   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 7, 10:00am  

FortWayne says

It's still fee for service model.

Damn right it is, but I think they are referring to the Medicare recipient reimbursements. Not those that were forced to buy on the wide wild exchange. They are jumping ship because millions signed up for free healthcare but there aren't many takers for the Ballbreaker monthly.

They'll end up doing far more colonoscopies for $25.00 than for $3500 that is just the coinsurance and another $3000 on the deductible. Not many young and invincible in need of a good look up the ole poopshoot.

40005   Homeboy   2013 Dec 7, 10:02am  

So let's see if I have this right. Complaints against ACA so far:

No cost controls on medical procedures.
Too many cost controls on medical procedures driving doctors away.

It's just an excuse to make the pharmaceutical industry rich.
It has unfair taxes on pharmaceutical industry that will hurt them.

Poor people will be forced to buy expensive insurance.
Poor people will get unfair government handouts.

It won't allow me to have the high deductible plan I want.
Deductibles will be too high.

Pretty hard to please people when their complaints are exact opposites of each other.

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