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41386   Strategist   2014 Jan 9, 8:42am  

The question is.....is his political career and possible run for the presidency over?
Can he survive this?

41387   dublin hillz   2014 Jan 9, 8:45am  

Strategist says

The question is.....is his political career and possible run for the presidency over?
Can he survive this?

His bigger worry should be whether he can survive his BMI.

41388   lostand confused   2014 Jan 9, 8:49am  

But I don't get the local politics -why block the bridge?? Was it some important day for the dem guy? Or was it just -you don't support me I block the roads to your town ?? I am trying to understand the rationale.

41389   HydroCabron   2014 Jan 9, 8:50am  

Obama is directly responsible for the actions of an IRS investigator 8 levels below him.

Therefore, Christie has no responsibility for his direct reports.

It's only fair.

41390   Ceffer   2014 Jan 9, 8:52am  

At the worst, it's unlicensed euthanasia.

The Krispy Kreme Kervorkian Kroaker scandal.

41391   HydroCabron   2014 Jan 9, 9:14am  

I saw interviews of traffic-jam victims. The fake crying was obvious.

41392   Strategist   2014 Jan 9, 9:29am  

lostand confused says

But I don't get the local politics -why block the bridge?? Was it some important day for the dem guy? Or was it just -you don't support me I block the roads to your town ?? I am trying to understand the rationale.

A couple of idiots got carried away with the power they had. Christie May not have been in on it. If he was he is finished.

41393   HydroCabron   2014 Jan 9, 9:48am  

Yanni Zionists are high-fiving each other over this fraudulent bridge closure. A real feat of Jew-Jitsu by the Rothschilds on this one.

This finally gets the Zionists some power in our political system!

41394   Y   2014 Jan 9, 9:50am  

As an aside, when was the last time we had a fat fuck president?
So long ago, electing christie would have the same effect of electing the first black/women president.
I say, harness the lard!

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Check this the fuck out, fat fuck fans:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536283/Paramedics-delayed-reaching-91-year-old-later-died-hospital-traffic-caused-Christies-Bridge-gate.html

41395   Y   2014 Jan 9, 9:52am  

As an aside to an aside, how does a fat fuck governer wipe his ass when he has fat fuck trex stumps for arms?
I need video to supplement my imagination.

41396   Homeboy   2014 Jan 9, 10:10am  

I already have my line ready for when Christie gets his ass handed to him in his presidential bid:

Is it wrong that I'm smiling?

41397   zzyzzx   2014 Jan 9, 10:12am  

John Bailo says

bgamall4 says

This is why I have said there has to be a wealth tax.

There is a wealth tax:

I'd add property tax as a wealth tax too.

41398   John Bailo   2014 Jan 9, 10:37am  

I hear what you all are saying.

No, it does not assess the value of an asset and tax a percent of that.

But, as has been made clear in many discussions, that is eminently hard -- estimating the value of assets. However, what is not hard is to account for the income derived from those assets which are tracked in hard dollars.

What the NIIT does do is tax "passive income" or the income that results from assets. This includes income from rental properties.

The reason that it is a type of wealth tax, is it taxing the asset not directly, but the benefit that the owner derives from the asset. Ultimately if the owner cannot maintain or keep up the costs of the asset, and is deprived of enough of the income, he has to give it up.

Thus the NIIT is an indirect form of wealth tax (and the reason for much of the opposition to Obamacare since it is funded by the NIIT).

I have proposed that those states seeking more revenue add a SIIT -- or state version of the NIIT. Since people have to already track NIIT income, there would be little additional paperwork.

41399   SiO2   2014 Jan 9, 10:42am  

tr6 says

Again, way to ignore my argument. If you invested in a fund today, you will get 4.7% for 7 years as long as there are no defaults.

Bond funds are a little tricky compared to bonds. Yes, if you buy the bond, and it doesn't default, when it matures in 7 years you'll get your principal and it would have paid 4.7% per year.

But, a bond fund doesn't mature (with some exceptions). They sell bonds and buy new ones to stay at 7 years. So, you could buy a bond fund share for $100, at 4.7% yield. If the yield in 7 years is 7.4%, then the bond fund share price would decline. Maybe the 4.7% per year makes up for the decline, maybe not, depending on the new yield.

There are some defined-maturity bond funds like BSCE, BSCF, etc. These are ETFs that buy a collection of bonds, then the ETF itself liquidates in a set year. For example, one of these will liquidate in 2014. This has the diversification advantage of a fund, and the no-loss-of-principal-excepting-default of buying a bond and holding to maturity.

41400   John Bailo   2014 Jan 9, 10:49am  

bgamall4 says

accumulated value over time.

Again, for anything other than financial assets, that's really hard.

And even with financial assets, we have lots of incentive to get people to invest...especially long term and in new technologies.

You don't want to undo that by adding taxes to make them have to sell those assets!

However, the NIIT shaves off just enough to get some of that back by taxing:

interest
dividends
capital gains
rental and royalty income
non-qualified annuities
income from businesses involved in trading of financial instruments or commodities and businesses

And it does this when the asset produces real dollar value...instead of trying to get some accountant to figure how how much say, a castle is worth, or a windfarm.

41401   John Bailo   2014 Jan 9, 10:57am  

bgamall4 says

The French have no problem doing it.

Au contraire, mon frere.

The French did away with their wealth tax in the early 00s, perhaps because of just this reason.

What they are now calling a wealth tax is really a high earners tax on regular income.

I am against high earners tax because it tends to hurt the up and comers more than the established wealthy (in general for Democrats and Socialists, this seems to be the goal..target the Nouveau Riche and protect the Old Moneybags who fund their campaigns and social programs for the poor).

The NIIT tax is the best of all worlds.

Easy to estimate.
Low enough for people not to complain.
Taxes "passive income" or income that most would conceive as not being directly related to hard work, so there's a kind of moral imperative.

41402   anotheraccount   2014 Jan 9, 10:58am  

SiO2 says

But, a bond fund doesn't mature (with some exceptions). They sell bonds and buy new ones to stay at 7 years. So, you could buy a bond fund share for $100, at 4.7% yield. If the yield in 7 years is 7.4%, then the bond fund share price would decline. Maybe the 4.7% per year makes up for the decline, maybe not, depending on the new yield.

Effective duration and distribution yield are fairly accurate ways to approximate returns.

If the interest rates rise that much in the next seven years (another 3% from here), then returns on any bond fund would not be that great. Housing may do even worse.

41403   casandra   2014 Jan 9, 11:21am  

i guess he had a good shot at beating the hillary, now the media is going to cook his fat ass rump roast, hehe!

41404   Shaman   2014 Jan 9, 11:33am  

Um, am I the only one who noticed the woman in question was 91 years old? Chances are she was going to kick off sometime this week anyhow. Christie just saved the taxpayers a big medical bill for useless extraordinary measures!

41405   Shaman   2014 Jan 9, 11:36am  

On an aside, anyone who wears their pants higher than their navel shouldn't be on a poster anywhere. Eww

41406   HydroCabron   2014 Jan 9, 11:41am  

The problem with Benghazi was that we were not standing tall, like when Reagan got those 300 Marines killed in Beirut, or when Bush had 3000 killed on his watch.

But Benghazi was negligence and the 1983 barracks bombing was not, so there's no comparison.

41407   bob2356   2014 Jan 9, 11:45am  

bgamall4 says

tatupu70 says

What you meant to say was that he found a couple fall guys, right?

He needs to be indicted for someone dying. Hard to see how someone would not have died because of this extra unnecessary traffic.

Maybe it would be better to hold off on an indictment until we find out if Christie was actually involved or not.

On the other hand your standard of proof is pretty flexible. Obviously this is false flag operation northwood zionist jfk assisination 9/11 controlled demolition sandy hook related. It all ties together if you know where to look.

41408   Tenpoundbass   2014 Jan 9, 11:51am  

Oh my there was a political traffic jam in Jersey.

You wanna talk about a political traffic jam. You should have been here the first few weeks the express lane in Miami opened on i95 from North of the Gables all the way to the 826/Turnpike junction.

Traffic flowed like a dream for the first few weeks, it was like nothing happened. Traffic zipped along at 65mph at 5pm with no problem. Only a few self important losers were in the express lane, which were cheap because the traffic was good.

With in a few weeks, the FHP started setting up 4pm speed traps at the tightest bottle neck in the whole stretch of 95, a quarter of a mile past the junction and around a bend in 95 near Ives Dairy road. By 4:30 the traffic would be crawling from 3 miles South of the 95 entrance on US, all the way up the speed trap. So people would start using the HOV pay lane. The problem was too many people started using the HOV pay lane. While we had artificially created bottle neck traffic, the idiots in the HOV lanes were at a complete standstill because some idiot at the junction rear ended another idiot who was texting.

If you think about it, all long term traffic snarls are Political.

41409   Ceffer   2014 Jan 9, 12:07pm  

Is this thread a liberal guilt trip, a zionist guilt trip, a tea bagger guilt trip, a false flag guilt trip or a fat person guilt trip?

With so many liberals on Patnet, I get my guilt trips mixed up, I need a scorecard.

41410   Tenpoundbass   2014 Jan 9, 12:12pm  

NO it worked so well the Cops have been there every week day ever since. Or it was the last time I drove that way.
There's a crash almost every other day, mostly in the HOV lanes, from people texing not ever once expecting to hit a patch of road, where the cars at a complete stop.

41411   HydroCabron   2014 Jan 9, 12:22pm  

Ceffer says

With so many liberals on Patnet, I get my guilt trips mixed up, I need a scorecard.

You should feel terrible about that.

41412   socal2   2014 Jan 9, 12:23pm  

Call it Crazy says

Don't provide the liberal wild dogs with facts, it just bursts their bubble...

No kidding. Pretty pathetic how they try to exploit someone's death. "but but but........someone in Manhattan died of diabetic shock waiting on his pizza to be delivered." Stay classy Libs.

Anyway, looks like the girls at Patnet are getting pretty worried about 2016 already. How many threads have they started here on the same subject? Three? Four?

My Lib bro in Europe broke our 5 year hiatus of online political debate to breathlessly email me this story yesterday just convinced Christie would be forced to resign within the week.

So delusional.

41413   bob2356   2014 Jan 9, 12:24pm  

CaptainShuddup says

the idiots in the HOV lanes were at a complete standstill because some idiot at the junction rear ended another idiot who was texting.

Which political party was responsible for texting?

41414   Ceffer   2014 Jan 9, 12:25pm  

You can't be a national leader without killing somebody somewhere, Krispy just got an early start.

41415   bob2356   2014 Jan 9, 12:30pm  

Call it Crazy says

Did you see how cockeyed the joker's arm was??

I watched the video and it appears that Christie is actually being played by an actor, he obviously isn't distraught enough to be the real Christie watching his career go down the drain. I'm pretty sure this whole bridge thing is a false flag zionist conspiricy that never actually happened. The news reports of Sharon being in bad health is just to cover up the operation. Obviously the pictures of traffic jams are fake. There's never been a traffic jam at the GW bridge.

41416   Ceffer   2014 Jan 9, 3:03pm  

If you haven't gone from gambling debts, indictment, bankruptcies, failed businesses, ponzi schemes and negative net worth to multimillionaire status your first or second day after being sworn into office, you are just not listening to your electorate.

Why do they hate success?

41417   Homeboy   2014 Jan 9, 3:37pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Neighbors speak out in the name of the Fort Lee that Krispy Kreme sentenced to death.

Named: Woman, 91, who died after paramedics were delayed by Christie bridge scandal

Florence Genova died after ambulance took seven minutes to reach her in traffic caused by Christie allies

http://splicd.com/yZWUa5OR3Ho/157/158

41418   marco   2014 Jan 9, 8:13pm  

Christie vs Hillary who says we don't have great leadership ? Huh ?

P.S. Will Hillary wear the $500,000 gold necklace, a present from the King Of Saudi Ararbia, at the inauguration....?

Yes She Can

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think."

- Adolf Hitler

41419   HydroCabron   2014 Jan 9, 9:53pm  

bob2356 says

On the other hand your standard of proof is pretty flexible. Obviously this is false flag operation northwood zionist jfk assassination 9/11 controlled demolition sandy hook related. It all ties together if you know where to look.

Sounds like you did solid research by clicking on links to various conspiracy sites. Since your conclusions match my predetermined conceptions, this looks like sound research to me.

I will research this as well: I will find photos from actor publicity and Facebook shots which don't resemble Christie or his aides at all, and then claim it was all a production.

Ariel Sharon - The Official Vegetable of Israel - is probably pulling the strings on this one through eyeball movements and variations in peristaltic contractions.

41420   bob2356   2014 Jan 9, 10:48pm  

HydroCabron is Kochel 271 says

Sounds like you did solid research by clicking on links to various conspiracy sites. Since your conclusions match my predetermined conceptions, this looks like sound research to me.

Yes, Bgmal has taught me everything there is to know about doing research to the highest standards of internet journalism. To think that I used to go to all the trouble of actually looking up facts and reading peer reviewed articles. So old school. The internet has changed everything. It's a brave new world since 1984 and bgmal is on the leading edge.

41421   Dan8267   2014 Jan 9, 11:56pm  

Call it Crazy says

1. Hilary is not responsible for the Benghazi attacks. Republicans are for responsible for those deaths because they lowered the funding of the embassy and that compromised its security.

2. The Republicans deliberately sabotaged the public saftey for political gain in NJ and that might have resulted in deaths. No Democrat deliberately sabotaged the embassy in Benghazi.

Put simply, this bridge scandal is a real scandal that affected real people. Benghazi is a made up scandal for political gain, much like the motive for crime, and yes it's a crime, in the bridge scandal.

So, Bridghazi, Bridghazi, Bridghazi!

41422   smaulgld   2014 Jan 10, 12:00am  

Just the excuse the fed needs to call off the taper

41423   mfs.admin   2014 Jan 10, 12:11am  

Looks like Christie found a patsy. A lesson to all who feel going along to get along at work is the right move. When the US was the number one power, it was skill that determined who the leaders should be. Today, it's the people who are the best at sucking up.......

41424   RWSGFY   2014 Jan 10, 12:50am  

bgamall4 says

No, there are enough assault rifles to shoot down drones

Again, it's impossible to shoot down a bird with a rifle. Even more so for a drone. Adding "assault" to the definition doesn't make it more possible. To have a chance at shooting down a flying object you need, basically, to deliver a cloud of projectiles, which is achieved either by shotgun-type weapon, multi-barell machinegun (think 4-barrel DSHK or, better yet, Gatling), cannon with shrapnel projectile, or missile with shrapnel-loaded warhead. Rifles are useless against flying objects.

I was speaking theoretically anyway.

And showed your ignorance on the subject (and basic science really).

I have no clue if people would be motivated to shoot down drones, you troll.

The only people who would be motivated to shoot down drones with rifles would be people who have no education, common sense and knowledge about shooting. Having any one of three would be enough to understand how laughable the proposition is. BTW, why did you dodge the question about your profession and education level? Did you go to college? Heck, have you finished HS? Fess up, Gary, public wants to know.

41425   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 Jan 10, 12:51am  

CiC, don't you know you're not allowed to mention anecdotal evidence about cooling and AGW, unless it's about a heat wave or receding glacier or lack of ice cap in the Arctic, in which case anecdote away.

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