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6525   marcus   2011 Apr 24, 2:01pm  

shrekgrinch says

Do you even know what a Luddite is?

You proved that you don't. Maybe you should call other people an idiot more, which as far as I can see is the closest you will get to seeming like you have a clue.

I would say it for you again slowly but I don't see how that's going to make a difference for you. Jackson is not protesting the existence of the technology, or even that it will displace publishing. You really are even far more of a fool than I ever realized.

6526   marcus   2011 Apr 24, 3:21pm  

Bring back the fairness doctrine. Really it's about ongoing education. We should all be life long learners, and we deserve to hear both sides of issues (regardless of whether our emotional biases prevent us from being open minded about the truth.)

6527   RayAmerica   2011 Apr 25, 2:05am  

clambo .... excellent post. Now get ready for the all the attacks from the Kool-Aid drinking radical left in here.

6528   theoakman   2011 Apr 25, 3:17am  

almost opened at $50 today

6529   leo707   2011 Apr 25, 7:12am  

shrekgrinch says

marcus says

I consider myself a conservative, but I am a liberal too.

Then you are nothing but a walking contradiction

Ah, shrek buddy… I know that this may be hard for you to believe, but there are many “liberal” and “conservative” views that are not mutually exclusive.

Bear with me here, but if you could just metaphorically take a look to your left...

See that massive group of people? … now take a look to your right…

See that tiny group of people? All those people are your hardcore conservative/teabaggers…

Now, if you take a look to your left again… yep the big group…

Almost all of those people are called “moderates”. They have some combination of conservative and liberal views.

Now, don’t strain your eyes too much, but look way in the distance…

Yeah, that little clump of people all the way at the end…

Those are the liberal hippies you are so afraid are going to run the country.

6530   American in Japan   2011 Apr 25, 11:05am  

@leoj707

>"Bear with me here, but if you could just metaphorically take a look to your left…
See that massive group of people? … now take a look to your right…
See that tiny group of people? All those people are your hardcore conservative/teabaggers…
Now, if you take a look to your left again… yep the big group…"

I love this explanation...can I use it?

6531   American in Japan   2011 Apr 25, 11:13am  

@shrekgrinch

Would you consider those advocating massive military spending (the US currently has) to have a conservative or liberal view?

6532   leo707   2011 Apr 25, 12:21pm  

American in Japan says

@leoj707
>”Bear with me here, but if you could just metaphorically take a look to your left…

See that massive group of people? … now take a look to your right…

See that tiny group of people? All those people are your hardcore conservative/teabaggers…

Now, if you take a look to your left again… yep the big group…”
I love this explanation…can I use it?

Of course, but just for good not evil!

6533   marcus   2011 Apr 25, 12:29pm  

clambo says

His total complete lack of experience making any kind of decisions shows and he is worse than a weak leader, he is not a leader at all. He is a follower, complainer and fiddler-while-Rome-burns-in-chief.

You aren't by any chance one of them thar Teabaggers are'ye ?

clambo says

I would like proof of his intelligence, not his birth.

That's a good one.

Here from another thread, about how out to lunch the teabaggers are:

clambo says

The Tea Party are people who are concerned with too much government intervention into our lives, which would include meddling in the housing market. Whether or not you wish to pay higher taxes, no one who wants to keep their own money in their pocket is “full of crap.” Stick to talking about houses being a bubble.

6534   marcus   2011 Apr 25, 12:37pm  

Then again, maybe I'm wrong, and Clambo is a guy who usually votes for moderates, often democrats but just really has some legitimate criticisms of Obama to share. COmpared to other mainstream moderates that Clambo has voted for, he is just really unhappy about Obama.

6535   Cook County resident   2011 Apr 25, 11:16pm  

marcus says

Bring back the fairness doctrine. Really it’s about ongoing education. We should all be life long learners, and we deserve to hear both sides of issues (regardless of whether our emotional biases prevent us from being open minded about the truth.)

A reinstated fairness doctrine would be irrelevant. The doctrine applies only to broadcast media and a large percentage of electronic media is now wired through cable or the Internet. The fairness doctrine was never applied to print media.

Eliminating the fairness doctrine gave a boost to issue oriented broadcast media, particularly radio. Most people tune in what they want to hear and mixing opposing views would be like mixing heavy metal and country music.

Issue oriented broadcast media is well past it's peak, anyway. Most of it's audience is over 35 and advertisers are less interested in an audience which bases it's buying decisions on experience.

6536   elliemae   2011 Apr 26, 12:14am  

The question was, "How do you like Obama now?"

I still like him - he super cool, and I can't wait to watch him in reruns.

6537   burritos   2011 Apr 26, 3:09am  

How about just hiring a good property manager?

6538   Done!   2011 Apr 26, 4:20am  

I suspect that after all of the Oil is gone, we'll discover the Earth was using it, for Tectonic lubricant.

6539   CL   2011 Apr 26, 4:58am  

Simple: reduce military spending (which is really vote-buying by scattering jobs and plants through congressional districts), reduce medical costs through single-payer, and leave Social Security alone.

and end the wars of occupation. (As opposed to stopping all military endeavors that are short by design).

Return the taxes at least to pre-Reagan rates, and compromise to Clinton rates.

6540   zzyzzx   2011 Apr 26, 5:38am  

CL says

leave Social Security alone

The ages for when one is elidgeable for benefits needs to be raised by at least 5 years and benefits frozen (not adjusted for underreported inflation figures).

6541   tatupu70   2011 Apr 26, 6:04am  

shrekgrinch says

Not on this thread, but plenty of others you have maintained that we can tax out way out of the deficit or at least make a severe dent in it via some belief that we’d actually get revenues from increases in income tax rates that would do just that.

I can't believe you continue to spew this nonsense.

6542   nope   2011 Apr 26, 6:07am  

Fixing the problem is pretty simple, mathematically. Even without raising taxes.

- Fix social security by raising the retirement age to 75 (phased in over 20 years, 6 months at a time), and, if necessary, raise contribution limits from the current $106k / year maximum (lots of other variations on this, but social security is not the hard problem)

- Fix defense spending by ending the wars, ceasing purchase of new tanks, planes, and ships that won't ever be used, and ending no-bid contracts to defense contractors.

- Fix medicare / medicaid by copying the health care system of just about any other country that has a decent one.

Now, it's mathematically sound, but as soon as you suggest such simple changes, the reactions are predictable:

- Reducing spending on unnecessary military spending means weakening american defenses
- Spending less on medicare means cutting benefits
- Raising the retirement age means raping your grandmother with a hot poker

My prediction for what will actually happen:

- The actual deficit will shrink thanks to the wars winding down and the economy picking up
- Obama will win in 2012, and will be more willing to fight for things, so he'll prevent a renewal of the 250k+ tax break
- Inflation will kick into high gear starting around 2013, eeking up into the 7-8% range. After 10 years the deficit and debt to GDP ratios will seem a lot more like they did in 1995.

Buy commodities.

6543   Â¥   2011 Apr 26, 8:35am  

Kevin says

Fix social security by raising the retirement age to 75 (phased in over 20 years, 6 months at a time), and, if necessary, raise contribution limits from the current $106k / year maximum (lots of other variations on this, but social security is not the hard problem)

Social security isn't broken and doesn't need fixing, not until it runs through at least half of the $2.5T t-bonds it holds. The FICA cap might need to be raised since rich bastards are living longer, but if we need to make social security actuarially balanced, RAISING FICA is a million times better than expecting people to work as great grand parents.

6544   bg   2011 Apr 26, 9:11am  

Seattle home prices continue to fall http://www.komonews.com/news/local/120700279.html
6545   terriDeaner   2011 Apr 26, 9:12am  

Troy says

terriDeaner says

He fell to a vote of no confidence this year, courtesy of the liberal party:

He’s not out of the picture yet. No confidence just means they have to have an election, and if anything Harper will come back stronger this time around.

We'll see... but don't be too sure. Check it out:

NDP winning support on the right and left, poll suggests
http://patrick.net/?p=688601

6546   corntrollio   2011 Apr 26, 10:45am  

"Treat landlording as a business. Develop a system and a set of written procedures for all steps in your rental process. "

The one thing he never mentions is making sure that renting is actually economical. You need to calculate your capitalization rate to make sure you're getting adequate return. Otherwise, why take so much risk for so little reward? This should be #1 and is the most important part of treating landlording as a business.

6547   corntrollio   2011 Apr 26, 10:47am  

"How about just hiring a good property manager?"

That can work, but you need some oversight of your property manager even if they are "good." That said, it's hard to find a good property manager who isn't trying to screw you when you're not paying attention.

Another mistake that people make is having a rental property nowhere near where they live. You need to keep an eye on your property and what's going on with it.

6548   American in Japan   2011 Apr 26, 8:08pm  

@Kevin,

You may be right. Do you also see wage inflation picking up in 2012 or 2013?

I wouldn't mind seeing inheritence tax rates go up for over $5,000,000 (40% marginally) and $15,000,000 (50% marginally). At the same time I would like to see no inheritance tax on the first $500,000 and only 10% on the next $700,000.

6549   zzyzzx   2011 Apr 27, 2:16am  

Kevin says

Fix social security by raising the retirement age to 75 (phased in over 20 years, 6 months at a time)

The age needs to be raised 6 months every year until the minimum age for any benefits is 75. Not any of thie nonse about people born after a certain year like last time.

6550   zzyzzx   2011 Apr 27, 2:23am  

Kevin says

- Fix medicare / medicaid by copying the health care system of just about any other country that has a decent one.

Actually the fee for service needs to be replaced with something more along the lines of a HMO type of thing where they get a monthly fee instead.

6551   MAGA   2011 Apr 27, 4:06am  

Note the race of the Father. African. Wasn't it Negro back in the early 60's? That's strange.

6552   EBGuy   2011 Apr 27, 4:09am  

Was this a mistake? I've said before that they should have saved this silver bullet for after the RNC selects a presidential candidate. With this action, Pres. Obama has declared he doesn't want to run against The Combover, but instead relishes competition from a real Republican candidate. Will be interesting to see if a Bill Bradley emerges to run against Obama in the primaries, as he is now effectively running a ship slightly to the right of center. Perhaps he can drop Biden from the VP slot and pick up Romney on the 2012 ticket -- I joke...

6553   EightBall   2011 Apr 27, 4:58am  

About time - now the kooks can move on to "Bill Ayers wrote Obama's first book" conspiracy or some such drivel.

6554   EBGuy   2011 Apr 27, 5:12am  

Troy and others practically screaming denials instead of being smart and screaming ’show us the long form’ to get this out of the way instead...
Have you even read Troy's posts, they are a bit more nuanced than you suggest. At one point, Troy even hinted that there may be 'buried bodies' on the long form and that may be why it hasn't been released. Your brush paints with too broad a stroke...

6555   tatupu70   2011 Apr 27, 5:55am  

shrekgrinch says

Tax receipts history proves this absolutely

It would prove it, if there was any evidence that the government actually tried to raise more than 18%... See, that's the flaw in your theory.

6556   Done!   2011 Apr 27, 7:12am  

“I’d never vote for him,” he said. “I will never vote for anybody who has a terrible record like that, who’s done what he’s done for Wall Street and turned his back on the people who need him.”

Ditto!

6557   tatupu70   2011 Apr 27, 7:16am  

shrekgrinch says

Likewise, I don’t think the same type of damage caused by the entire birth certificate thing will just ‘go away’ either. Maybe out of direct sight, but it still took root like the Muslim thing. These things take on a life of their own after a certain momentum is reached, apparently.

I'm laughing my ass off. Democrats would LOVE this to be the issue. They win every day and twice on Sunday if the birthers run the Republican party!!

6558   kentm   2011 Apr 27, 7:24am  

watching you chatter around on these subjects is like watching a ball roll around on jello... there's never really a position, just endless reactions...

just sayin'... and yes, I suppose this was a troll post...

6559   Done!   2011 Apr 27, 7:25am  

Well I don't care who wins, I just want to hear some whining and pissing and moaning out of Left, when Sarah Palin wins. Then we can start to look for effective leadership and put the age of Patsyism, that has been around for the last two decade or so behind us. Obama is continuation of Regan, as has been every son of a bitch that has been in the Oval office since then.
And it is all possible because people follow politics like it's their home football team going to the playoffs. No matter how shitty the politician.

We need the Donald/Palin to win, then we might take politics more seriously in this country.

6560   Â¥   2011 Apr 27, 7:27am  

Unfortunately, the long-form doesn't show "Frank Marshall Davis" as Obama's father.

Now the next line of attack will have to be trying to figure out if Dr David Sinclair was the actual attending physician . . . he died in 2003 . . .

As for what I was saying about the birth certificate, I guess this is the best summary:

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6561   tatupu70   2011 Apr 27, 9:43am  

shrekgrinch says

As for the Dems loving it to be an issue, with inflation and national bankruptcy on their plate…I bet they really would like the ‘distraction’ (as Obama calls it) instead of having to face their real record

Uh, that was my point Shrek. You start off telling me I live in la-la land, and then go on to write 3 paragraphs explaining my point. Perhaps you should actually think before you post.

The Obama team has said as much in unattributed emails--they wanted to keep this birther stuff going as long as possible. The word is that Obama finally decided that it wasn't good for the country to keep focusing on this nonsense....

If you truly think the birther stuff has helped the Republican party then you really do live in a fantasy world.

(And fyi--that last quote you attribute to me was from Troy)

6562   EBGuy   2011 Apr 27, 10:09am  

Why do I fear this interchange from Oprah will become birther fodder. She inadvertently gave him a question that was tough to answer without sounding a bit silly:
"When it first came up, were you thinking, I hope I was born here?" Winfrey asked, according to a transcript provided by her production company.
"Can I just say I was there, so I knew," Obama said. "I knew I had been born. I remembered it."
"Of course you did," Winfrey said.

6563   Done!   2011 Apr 27, 10:15am  

Trump: 'I've done a great service to the American people'

i.e. My Ass

6564   Vicente   2011 Apr 27, 11:46am  

Goalpost moved!

"The word is," Trump told the press, Obama "was a terrible student when he went to Occidental [College]. He then gets to Columbia. He then gets to Harvard."

"I don't know why he doesn't release his records," Trump said. "Why doesn't he release his Occidental records?"

Trump On Obama's Birth Certificate: I'm 'Honored' -- But Where Are His School Records?

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