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Being squatted out by the side of the road in a mud ditch in Kenya, shouldn't Obama's real birth certificate be recorded on a palm leaf in pidgin Arabic or something?

Ironman says

How did Hillary win the popular vote??

Maybe the illegals?

KILL THE ELECTORS! KILL THEM ALL!

Tim Aurora says

You may flaunt now but mark my words. America's leadership is done. Unless you are a Chinese or Russian Troll that is bad news for all us. Well it was good while it lasted.

This is what Obama said about Russia.
"After unleashing a string of putdowns about Russia, describing America's Cold War adversary as "a weaker country" that "doesn't produce anything anyone wants to buy except oil and gas and arms," Obama conceded the country could exploit political divisions in the United States.
"They can impact us if we lose track of who we are. They can impact us if we abandon our values," Obama said."

What a bunch of losers.

HEY YOU says

There are some stupid people here!

How did Hillary win the popular vote?

More people voted for her than trump.

Too COMPLEX for Republican slime to understand.

it's. not about popular vote or else trump would have campaigned differently.

Ironman says

if it's true Putin hacked the election, why didn't he just add a few million votes to Trump's total to guarantee his victory?

Most people are not claiming he hacked the voting machines. If that's what you meant in your title, you should have stated as much, because most of the headlines regarding 'hacking' in the media lately have nothing to do with that.

Even if he did hack the voting machines (I don't think he did), he might think it beneficial to produce a result that was believable and was within normal range of polling errors. If the result was completely outside of the expected range, there would be more investigation.

Quigley says

I thought the assertion is that the Russians hacked into the DNC and Clinton campaigns to get emails for Wikileaks? And if these are real emails detailing conspiracy how are they "hogwash?" Seems like the Democrats are allergic to truth.

The emails werent' that bad. There's just as much if not more crap going on in the other side. It just wasn't reported.

Proof?

YesYNot says

There's just as much if not more crap going on in the other side. It just wasn't reported.

Damn...that libby disease is bleeding over into the written word...

Tim Aurora says

It is not going to change the thruth.

Ironman says

.How did Hillary win the popular vote??

Lets baseline assume that the tactic was to drive a bigger wedge between the extreme left and Clinton.

Young voters are not hip to vote anyway and some would go to Stein.

65,844,594 Clinton is on the verge of beating Obama.. However, as always you have to adjust to population

62,979,616 Trump did receive more votes than any other republican

7,804,203 3rd party voters ( Jill Stein) Let assume she wasn't in the race at all, it would have given Clinton a more delegates but Clinton wouldn't have won.

We all the see the numbers in Black voter turn out in this election to the past.

To be honest with you....

It wasn't the Russian's as much as it is Clinton was a flawed candidate in the sense that she couldn't ever rally the left wing base and the young voters. Bernie, did more rep damage in the election than any Russian hack, because one thing was constant way before the Russians got involved

The extreme left never liked Clinton and thought of her as a war like Republican and deficit Hawk.

In time the extreme left even turned on Bernie, Warren and Robert Reich for supporting Clinton

This is the problem with snow flakes ... very sensitive in mindset....

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

it's. not about popular vote or else trump would have campaigned differently.

And so would have Clinton. What's your point?

Ranina ranina says

Proof?

The emails seemed like what I would expect to be going on in a campaign. People involved with campaigns confirmed this. The CIA or FBI (I forget which) says that the RNC was hacked too, but the emails were not released. There's no proof of what was in there, but there's proof that one side was selectively broken into and the dirty laundry loot was strategically released for the largest impact on the election. That much is very clear.

Ironman says

Exactly... They have NOTHING to do with the election...PERIOD.

Having nothing to do with installing malware on machines is not the same has having nothing to do with the election. Someone clearly hacked into private computers and used the loot to influence the election. Our intelligence agencies think it was Russia. Trump denies this and claims it could have been a 400 lb guy or Chinese. That's what we know for sure. This thread OP provides no light on that and doesn't offer anything to contradict what is being discussed by the adults in the media.

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

it's. not about popular vote or else trump would have campaigned differently.

Read the damn thread! No mention of anything other than the popular vote.
There is no link to anything.
My comment was in response to "How did Hillary win the popular vote?"
Inquiring minds learned what the popular vote means today.
I will have to charge tuition if all my time is spent learnin' folk.

The funny thing is Obama coming out and saying he talked to Putin about the hacking and told him to cut it out-LOL- I mean WTF!!!!!!!!!!

@joeyjojojo - you may very well be right that the Russians hacked the DNC emails, but they didn't hack voting machines and change the result. Voters still had the freedom to vote for the result they wanted.

Analogy - I'm engaged to be married to a woman. My ex-girlfriend hacks my fiance's email and leaks to me and both of our families the ugly details of unprotected anal sex my fiance is secretly and willingly receiving from nasty, fat, homeless men on a regular basis. I now decide to pull out of the marriage because of those nasty details. My fiance and her whole family is now super pissed at me for pulling out of the marriage based on these details, and blames me for cancelling the wedding and ruining her life.

Why the hell does my fiance and/or her family have the right to be pissed at me, or think that the wedding shouldn't be called off given new facts emerged about the integrity of my fiance? Now, my fiance has every right to be pissed at my ex-girlfriend and can prosecute her for hacking into her email, but that's a totally different matter.

Why the hell does HRC or the democrats blame Trump or think the voters made the wrong decision based on ugly facts?

The Russians did it, Liberals world wide puts that Shit on everything!

Tim Aurora says

I, an immigrant is more worried about America’s position in the world vs all the “so called patriots”

I, an immigrant, am super stoked that the result of this election will foster the rise of patriotism in Western and Eastern European nations to return to a common place of acknowledgement of the many achievements the Caucasian cultures, traditions and religions have brought to the history of mankind, dominating technical and scientific progress for the betterment of mankind throughout recent history (the fastest expansion of tecnhological progress ever), as well as a rich culture of languages, words, poetry, genetic beauty and human rights, instead of shitting all over themselves with perpetual self-flagellating, weak leftoid guilt-trips. Sure we've had our dark ages, but make no mistake, without the Caucasian culture and all its achievements the world would be a shithole these days. Make America, Europe and Russia great again! #MAERGA #guiltless

SO he's going to follow OBama's lead is he ?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/obama-deported-record-number-immigrants-trump-claim-article-1.2774180

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/politics/trump-obama-criminal-deportations/

Ironman says

What good are these animals. Kick them out.

YesYNot says

I don't like the race to the bottom. It's happening, because localities are desperate for business, so they give away too much to get a few jobs. Carrier was just more of the same deal. I expect it won't last though, as it was a political stunt, and the threat of losing unrelated business with the US gov was a driver. Once the political spotlight is gone, they will move the plant. But that's another story.

The solution is the tariff.

Neoliberals have no solution, so they're like "Suck it up".

PCGyver says

Everyone agrees the hack was Russian.

Quote unnamed anonymous sources claiming to have seen documents the reporter himself did not nor did anybody else.

Repeat this unverifiable "fact" endlessly across the Legacy Media.
"Everybody" Agrees.

Just like "Everybody" agreed Hillary would win, Saddam had WMDs ready-to-go and an active WMD programs, etc.

"I don't know anybody who voted for Nixon"

joeyjojojunior says

"Where's the evidence?"

Is that a joke? I posted it on this very thread earlier. Here, I'll post it again for you though since you obviously didn't read it

Not evidence. Crowd Strike, a company that heavily depends on intel agency and Pentagon contracts.

Claimed, continue to explore, Cozy bear and Fancy Bear are criminal/hacktivist/intelligence actors (which one if you are so damned familiar), the whole thing is chock full of caveats and PR brags.

And, as the contractor of the DNC, of course they will point the bone at whomever the DNC wants them too.

In reality it was probably a 400lb Cheetos Eating 23 year old /poltard in Grandma's Basement

"Not evidence. Crowd Strike, a company that heavily depends on intel agency and Pentagon contracts"

Yes, that's absolutely evidence. You can claim bias if you want, but you are sounding more and more like Gary as this campaign season has turned into election season has turned into an inauguration.

I mean, my lord--Patrick has a thread claiming yahoo is purposely altering their Nasdaq reporting for some ulterior motive. This is why Trump feeding into the nonsense is dangerous. You guys see conspiracy in EVERYTHING. Sometimes a rose is just a rose. When the CIA, FBI, all intelligence services, and members of Congress who have been briefed all agree--it's probably true.

It's all Obama's fault!! If it weren't for the great divider Obama, people wouldn't want to do these things.

Translation: "I'm a racist nitwit."Tenpoundbass says

Yeah let's play erase History no Qwanza.

zzyzzx says

It's all Obama's fault!! If it weren't for the great divider Obama, people wouldn't want to do these things.

Translation: "I'm a racist nitwit."

I bet the rate with anchor babies is twice as much at the very least and we are stuck with them.

"@joeyjojojunior, Everyone here agrees your evidence is not really evidence but actually just someone's opinion."

And by everyone, you mean the Trumpbots that also think Obama was born in Kenya, a Pizza restaurant was actually a front for a child sex ring, and that Yahoo purposely alters it's Nasdaq history?

Because I'm pretty sure the sane people on pat.net agree with me.

Like I told Thunder--when you find yourself agreeing with CIC and TPB over and over, it's time you reassessed your views...

Sorry!old,male,pale Republicans. You will not be sucking on the govt. teat any longer

He obviously doesn't know what oversample means or why it would be done anyway. It's no use trying to teach fools on here.

YesYNot says

Carrier is symbolic.

Yes. If you'll recall, Trump hasn't been sworn in and has no actual political power yet. All he's got are friends with power and the threat of the power he will have in a couple months. So yes, the deal is symbolic. He made it to show the doubters that he knows how to make things happen, to do deals that are good for people who voted for him. Is it a perfect deal? No. But contrasted to Obama's last job creating effort (expansion of H1B program by executive order last month), Trump looks like Santa Claus to Obama's fucking Grinch!

"Lordy, So what does this mean? Who is responsible for the DNC hack? Based on our comparative analysis we agree with CrowdStrike and believe that the COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR APT groups were involved in successful intrusions at the DNC. The malware samples contain data and programing elements that are similar to malware that we have encountered in past incident response investigations and are linked to similar threat actors. Where is this evidence you talk of. All I see is that Fidelis believes that it was cozy and fancy bear. That's their opinion."

That is their opinion BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT I HAVE ALREADY POSTED ON HERE MULTIPLE TIMES. The fact that none of you can even acknowledge that I have posted the evidence on here is telling. The game plan is the same as Trump's usual MO. Keep telling a lie often enough and people tire of correcting you and lazy voters start believing it.

And it's the opinion of 17 US intelligence agencies, every private security corporation, and anyone with half a brain who has actually done any research into the event. Hell, even Trump has tacitly acknowledged it was Russia at this point. You guys are behind.