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dublin hillz says

There's only one way to stop russian cyberwarfare - extraordinary rendition of the operatives followed by Kempeitai interrogation techniques. They will not learn any other way - they have been perfecting their craft on ongoing basis since 1917.

Nah, too complicated, too long to work. Swift retaliation by cutting off SWIFT (he-he) and oil/gas exports would stop the shenanigans much faster.

dublin hillz says

There's only one way to stop russian cyberwarfare - extraordinary rendition of the operatives followed by Kempeitai interrogation techniques. They will not learn any other way - they have been perfecting their craft on ongoing basis since 1917.

Long before 1917, pal. The Tsar had plenty of Siberian workcamps himself with a similar death rate, as well as secret police, and plenty of 'blame the minorities' crap via the Black Hundreds.

As for extraordinary rendition of operatives, I'm sure you realize that kidnapping Russians from Russia to torture them is a bad idea given the thousands of nuclear warheads the country possesses.

And for SWIFT, Russia's #1 Trading Partner is already building entirely new, non-Western controlled networks using their massive powers of production the US and Europe can do nothing about, unless they want to see hyperinflation of consumer goods.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

And for SWIFT, Russia's #1 Trading Partner is already building entirely new, non-Western controlled networks

Yeah, me likes "news from the future" too. As was said before, Russians are the best in that particular genre. The one about "South Stream" couple of years ago was a real gem.

Cutting off SWIFT the next day something of value is hacked here would deal a swift kick to the Putin's balls now-now-now. Same for oil/gas embargo. Would the fucker curl up and die? No. Will he feel tons of pain? Abso-fucking-lutely. And this is the point.

Now they know for sure that all they get in response is lovely lecture on what's good and what's bad from a Nobel Peace Prize winner.

I thought the assertion is that the Russians hacked into the DNC and Clinton campaigns to get emails for Wikileaks? And if these are real emails detailing conspiracy how are they "hogwash?" Seems like the Democrats are allergic to truth.

So they may have hacked Podesta's account and used it to release some embarrassing (but true) data. Are you saying that Americans are better off being lied to?
Russia clearly had a stake in this election.
Hillary wanted to continue baiting the bear, hurting Russia economically, and threatening to start WWIII. Trump wants to get along with russia and make America's economy great again.
Easy choice. I'd be shocked if Russia didn't interfere!
I agree with trump's approach.
If there's one thing I'm allergic to it's nuclear fallout.
But maybe that makes your feathers grow better? There has got to be some reason you support that war mongering murderous old bitch!

Any nuclear fallout is more likely to come from a Middle Eastern bomb than a Russian one. By your logic, we should cozy up to Pakistan or Saudi then?

Must bite...

If we have to look at ex presidents, Washington wasn't a natural born citizen either.

Ironman says

...How did Hillary win the popular vote??

Inquiring minds want to know????

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Has anyone heard THAT explanation from the Liberal MSM??

Perhaps they only hacked it in counties that are greater than 50 km from major cities in close states? And the hacking was graded, as one draws away radially from the center of cities, the Trump support increased in the populace.

Think of another reason ...... ...... this one is fallacious, and even a first year law student would be flunked for proposing fallacious, fake, or false concepts.......

It gets better by the day, the birther question is apparently in play again. If this is no hoax and it turns out the long form was doctored together and the lamestream media is not occupied too much with spreading fake news, this story could get some legs and apologies would be in order.. ;) https://market-ticker.org/post=231719

Bbbbbbuut his birth was confirmed by the CIA! Who also confirmed that Russia stole the election! Hmm. We be suckered?

Heraclitusstudent says

If we have to look at ex presidents, Washington wasn't a natural born citizen either.

That may be true, but Washington didn't present a doctored certificate, which - if confirmed - is a felony.

mell says

That may be true, but Washington didn't present a doctored certificate, which - if confirmed - is a felony.

A bit late to worry about that, I'd say.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

TRUMPLIGULA! is YOUR! ONLY! TRUTH!

I can tell by your syntax that this message is intended to be received by TPB.

Heraclitusstudent says

A bit late to worry about that, I'd say.

Rep/Con/Tea/Neo-Nazis are at their wits end.They know that after the inauguration they will be held responsible for shit that happens on their watch. A 9/11 rhyming or any BLACK SWAN event could happen that will finish them when it harms their ilk. They know they are responsible for DEATH & DESTRUCTION in our great New York City. How many right wingnuts were injured & killed,including their police & firemen for bush & his slime's negligence?
The word DESPERATION seems to fit. Repeal & Replace,leaving 20 million without healthcare,will not end well especially when their constituents are left high & dry. If they don't R & R they will be,forever,know as LIARS on top of Iraq has WMD. They are also concerned that Dems will fight them every moment giving them a real taste of karma. They will also be held to account for not doing everything that they promised their supporters.
A second coming of the TEA PARTY?
Trump voters can't learn that there are consequences to voting.

There are some stupid people here!
How did Hillary win the popular vote?
More people voted for her than trump.
Too COMPLEX for Republican slime to understand.

Being squatted out by the side of the road in a mud ditch in Kenya, shouldn't Obama's real birth certificate be recorded on a palm leaf in pidgin Arabic or something?

Ironman says

How did Hillary win the popular vote??

Maybe the illegals?

KILL THE ELECTORS! KILL THEM ALL!

Tim Aurora says

You may flaunt now but mark my words. America's leadership is done. Unless you are a Chinese or Russian Troll that is bad news for all us. Well it was good while it lasted.

This is what Obama said about Russia.
"After unleashing a string of putdowns about Russia, describing America's Cold War adversary as "a weaker country" that "doesn't produce anything anyone wants to buy except oil and gas and arms," Obama conceded the country could exploit political divisions in the United States.
"They can impact us if we lose track of who we are. They can impact us if we abandon our values," Obama said."

What a bunch of losers.

HEY YOU says

There are some stupid people here!

How did Hillary win the popular vote?

More people voted for her than trump.

Too COMPLEX for Republican slime to understand.

it's. not about popular vote or else trump would have campaigned differently.

Ironman says

if it's true Putin hacked the election, why didn't he just add a few million votes to Trump's total to guarantee his victory?

Most people are not claiming he hacked the voting machines. If that's what you meant in your title, you should have stated as much, because most of the headlines regarding 'hacking' in the media lately have nothing to do with that.

Even if he did hack the voting machines (I don't think he did), he might think it beneficial to produce a result that was believable and was within normal range of polling errors. If the result was completely outside of the expected range, there would be more investigation.

Quigley says

I thought the assertion is that the Russians hacked into the DNC and Clinton campaigns to get emails for Wikileaks? And if these are real emails detailing conspiracy how are they "hogwash?" Seems like the Democrats are allergic to truth.

The emails werent' that bad. There's just as much if not more crap going on in the other side. It just wasn't reported.

Proof?

YesYNot says

There's just as much if not more crap going on in the other side. It just wasn't reported.

Damn...that libby disease is bleeding over into the written word...

Tim Aurora says

It is not going to change the thruth.

Ironman says

.How did Hillary win the popular vote??

Lets baseline assume that the tactic was to drive a bigger wedge between the extreme left and Clinton.

Young voters are not hip to vote anyway and some would go to Stein.

65,844,594 Clinton is on the verge of beating Obama.. However, as always you have to adjust to population

62,979,616 Trump did receive more votes than any other republican

7,804,203 3rd party voters ( Jill Stein) Let assume she wasn't in the race at all, it would have given Clinton a more delegates but Clinton wouldn't have won.

We all the see the numbers in Black voter turn out in this election to the past.

To be honest with you....

It wasn't the Russian's as much as it is Clinton was a flawed candidate in the sense that she couldn't ever rally the left wing base and the young voters. Bernie, did more rep damage in the election than any Russian hack, because one thing was constant way before the Russians got involved

The extreme left never liked Clinton and thought of her as a war like Republican and deficit Hawk.

In time the extreme left even turned on Bernie, Warren and Robert Reich for supporting Clinton

This is the problem with snow flakes ... very sensitive in mindset....

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

it's. not about popular vote or else trump would have campaigned differently.

And so would have Clinton. What's your point?

Ranina ranina says

Proof?

The emails seemed like what I would expect to be going on in a campaign. People involved with campaigns confirmed this. The CIA or FBI (I forget which) says that the RNC was hacked too, but the emails were not released. There's no proof of what was in there, but there's proof that one side was selectively broken into and the dirty laundry loot was strategically released for the largest impact on the election. That much is very clear.

Ironman says

Exactly... They have NOTHING to do with the election...PERIOD.

Having nothing to do with installing malware on machines is not the same has having nothing to do with the election. Someone clearly hacked into private computers and used the loot to influence the election. Our intelligence agencies think it was Russia. Trump denies this and claims it could have been a 400 lb guy or Chinese. That's what we know for sure. This thread OP provides no light on that and doesn't offer anything to contradict what is being discussed by the adults in the media.

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

it's. not about popular vote or else trump would have campaigned differently.

Read the damn thread! No mention of anything other than the popular vote.
There is no link to anything.
My comment was in response to "How did Hillary win the popular vote?"
Inquiring minds learned what the popular vote means today.
I will have to charge tuition if all my time is spent learnin' folk.

The funny thing is Obama coming out and saying he talked to Putin about the hacking and told him to cut it out-LOL- I mean WTF!!!!!!!!!!

@joeyjojojo - you may very well be right that the Russians hacked the DNC emails, but they didn't hack voting machines and change the result. Voters still had the freedom to vote for the result they wanted.

Analogy - I'm engaged to be married to a woman. My ex-girlfriend hacks my fiance's email and leaks to me and both of our families the ugly details of unprotected anal sex my fiance is secretly and willingly receiving from nasty, fat, homeless men on a regular basis. I now decide to pull out of the marriage because of those nasty details. My fiance and her whole family is now super pissed at me for pulling out of the marriage based on these details, and blames me for cancelling the wedding and ruining her life.

Why the hell does my fiance and/or her family have the right to be pissed at me, or think that the wedding shouldn't be called off given new facts emerged about the integrity of my fiance? Now, my fiance has every right to be pissed at my ex-girlfriend and can prosecute her for hacking into her email, but that's a totally different matter.

Why the hell does HRC or the democrats blame Trump or think the voters made the wrong decision based on ugly facts?

The Russians did it, Liberals world wide puts that Shit on everything!