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79024   finehoe   2017 Jan 9, 10:31am  

Republicans once again rely on a misleading Obamacare factoid

With the election of Donald Trump, Republican lawmakers finally have the opportunity to repeal the Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare. As a result, we’re hearing some talking points that were debunked long ago.

But Republicans seems to love this one, no matter how misguided it is. Vice President-elect Mike Pence, during a news conference on Capitol Hill, also offered a version of it: “American families have seen an increase in premiums of $5,000.”

The Affordable Care Act of 2010 made important changes to the health-care market, but it was primarily aimed at people who do not get insurance through an employer and instead need to buy it themselves. When you hear about premium increases and trouble on the exchanges, that has to do with the individual market. Most workers get their insurance through their employer, so the law’s effect has been much more muted. While the law did require an essential benefits package, large group plans were not required to do so — because most already covered such benefits.

With the use of this number, Republicans are trying to muddy these distinctions.

The difference between the 2016 average annual premium ($18,141) and the 2010 premium is $4,371. (Note: Because these are employer-based health plans, most of the premiums are paid by employers. The average cost to workers increased just $1,386 over six years.)

79025   anonymous   2017 Jan 9, 10:43am  

Call it what it is: Heritage Foundation Care

Then you wouldn't be so confused as to why Republicans have nothing to replace it with. It's a Hardcore Repulican Legislation.

Get ready for more terrible things to come, now with all Hardcore Republicans in power.

79026   anonymous   2017 Jan 9, 2:21pm  

Is that what really happened?

79027   anonymous   2017 Jan 9, 2:24pm  

Sorry, wrong question

Did Meryl Streep successfully troll Trump?

I figured you were referring to Trump as the president.

79028   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 9, 2:25pm  

A big ego is a big target.

He is going to hate his job before long.

79029   Ceffer   2017 Jan 9, 2:28pm  

Streep should stop embarrassing herself with such easy targets.

79030   Dan8267   2017 Jan 9, 2:29pm  

errc says

Is that what really happened?

www.youtube.com/embed/L2fqRrrIetM

79031   Dan8267   2017 Jan 9, 2:34pm  

Meryl Street's speech was short and to the point, and she's right. The press needs to act as the fourth estate and hold politicians accountable for their words, their calls to action, their actual actions, and the policies they pass. The press has not been doing this job for decades.

79032   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 9, 2:58pm  

Just wait till Kim Jong-un starts trolling him.

79033   Ceffer   2017 Jan 9, 4:10pm  

Of course. They call them "Sloppy Donalds".

79034   Dan8267   2017 Jan 9, 4:29pm  

No. Great leader Kim Jong-Un takes sloppy firsts on Putin's asshole. He mounts him who mounts the Caligula of America. So great is leader.

79035   Dan8267   2017 Jan 9, 4:30pm  


Hey Putin. I've got your dildo here.

79036   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 9, 4:41pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

AMERICA!ns will beg to be shot in the face rather than endure another hour of the ACA!

You cray-cray FUCK! ROFLMAO

79037   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 9, 4:44pm  

Ironman says

Nope, I pay for mine and YOURS too. How is YOUR Medicaid plan working out in the homeless shelter that you live in?

Are you talking to a mirror.
Notice how I got down to your beginner troll level.

79038   Ceffer   2017 Jan 9, 4:53pm  

They're all in between projects, anyway.

79039   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 9, 4:55pm  

One of many Republican Red States sucking the govt. teat.
https://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/facts-and-features/state-by-state/how-aca-is-working-for-kentucky/index.html#

Trump needs to declare martial law & put an end to ACA & the SOCIALIST Republicans' free ride.

79040   fdhfoiehfeoi   2017 Jan 9, 4:59pm  

Movies have been terrible lately. Between the pirate bay, Netflix, and an up and coming international film scene, I'll be fine.

79041   lostand confused   2017 Jan 9, 5:01pm  

Ironman says

Describing Hollywood as “the base of the entire modern American culture“, the group also claims to be speaking on behalf of “all of humanity.”

Now I understand their lunatic behavior.

79042   Strategist   2017 Jan 9, 5:07pm  

Ironman says

Rosie O’Donnell, Amy Schumer, Miley Cyrus and George Clooney are part of a group of celebrities calling for a total Hollywood strike “until Trump resigns”.

Morons. They can shoot themselves, and he still won't resign.

79043   Patrick   2017 Jan 9, 5:15pm  

No, only text will make it to Twitter. At least for now.

79044   Patrick   2017 Jan 9, 5:17pm  

Personally, I think we'd all be a lot better off without Hollywood. There are tons of good small movies. Maybe they'd get more attention.

79045   Tenpoundbass   2017 Jan 9, 5:40pm  

We could replace Hollywood with Asian productions in a minute. And our Entertainment dollar would be better off for it.

79046   Tenpoundbass   2017 Jan 9, 5:42pm  

All he has to do is kill the mandate the rest is already dead.

79047   Patrick   2017 Jan 9, 5:46pm  

To be fair, Streep was trolling the hell out of Trump for no particular reason. Has any famous actor/actress ever done such a thing to, say, Obama?

79048   Ceffer   2017 Jan 9, 5:47pm  

If she really wanted to be cruel, she should have criticized Trumpligula's makeup

79049   komputodo   2017 Jan 9, 6:12pm  

Ironman says

“We’re calling for a general strike that would include every single person involved in making motion pictures in Hollywood, starting with the actors and celebrities themselves and encompassing companies in charge of making props, movie memorabilia and even souvenir shops.”

So are they going to financially support all the people that are living paycheck to paycheck in the movie industry? Ooops, not supposed to mention that.

79050   komputodo   2017 Jan 9, 6:15pm  

Ed Asner? That old fart is still alive? Wasn't his last paid gig the Mary Tyler Moore show?

79051   komputodo   2017 Jan 9, 6:18pm  

NuttBoxer says

Movies have been terrible lately. Between the pirate bay, Netflix, and an up and coming international film scene, I'll be fine.

Lots of really decent tv series lately too...Just not on network tv.

79052   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 9, 6:34pm  

Strategist says

Morons. They can shoot themselves, and he still won't resign.

Don't resign Trump!
When Republicans suffer from boycotts,they will regret voting the WINGNUT PARTY.

79053   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 9, 7:06pm  

KJ-U to trump,I FUCK YOU!

79054   Dan8267   2017 Jan 9, 8:00pm  

rando says

Has any famous actor/actress ever done such a thing to, say, Obama?

www.youtube.com/embed/zLgj7b7hZXs

79055   Y   2017 Jan 9, 8:34pm  

It's called "change of mind"...I don't see Washkansky wandering the corridors...

Tim Aurora says

Why the change of heart

79056   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2017 Jan 9, 8:45pm  

these idiots celebrities can say good bye to their career now.

79057   Y   2017 Jan 9, 8:45pm  

Which one? No lox during lent?

PCGyver says

DWS broke the bylaws. Hence the bylaws were not followed. Hillary knew or should have known DWS was breaking them.

79058   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 9, 8:46pm  

Ironman says

Why would she troll Obama, they are both dickhead Democrats on the same Blue team.??

DICKHEAD TROLL COMMENT!

79059   Patrick   2017 Jan 9, 8:49pm  

Actually somewhat insightful comment in NY Times:

Ms. Streep’s artful denunciation of Mr. Trump — whom she never mentioned by name — drew applause from many other actors at the Globes ceremony, but also attacks online from the president-elect’s allies, like Sean Hannity, as well as some Republicans, like Meghan McCain, who are critical of Mr. Trump but see Hollywood liberals as only emboldening his supporters.

Ms. Streep’s speech did not seem intended to win people over — she spoke dismissively of football and mixed martial arts at one point — but rather to voice frustration and anger before Mr. Trump’s inauguration.

79060   Patrick   2017 Jan 9, 8:52pm  

BTW, Eastwood looks insane or senile in that video. But OK, there's a famous actor trolling a president. It has been done before.

79061   Shaman   2017 Jan 9, 8:53pm  

If Trump voters went on strike in retaliation, nobody would be watching movies at all! Because the goddam lights would be off! And the farms would be shut down, so I hope you have some prepper food caches ready! And the refineries would be dead, so you can't refuel.
Basically all the people who actually DO things that make the engine of your world run would be on strike.
We can live without movies. We can't live without Trump voters.

79062   Patrick   2017 Jan 9, 9:02pm  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4103838/Not-impressed-Mel-Gibson-Vince-Vaughn-glare-daggers-Meryl-Streep-s-Golden-Globes-anti-Trump-speech.html

Mel Gibson, known as conservative, and Vince Vaughn, known as libertarian, death glared throughout Streep's speech - with Vaughn demonstrating the ability to not blink for an uncomfortably long period of time.

79063   PockyClipsNow   2017 Jan 9, 9:32pm  

THEY SHOULD DO IT
DO IT
DO IT

ANYONE WHO DOES ANY WORK AFTER JAN 20 WILL BE CONSIDERED A TRUMP SUPPORTER

HOLLYWOOD CIVIL WAR NOW

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