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I basically got my home playing mining stocks at the end of 2008. That beings aid, miners in general have had horrible management and they seem to be a crapshoot. You can make money off the swings but it's never a safe play. Physical is the safety play. Mining stocks are pure speculation.

I don't know about the other rags, but even you cannot deny cnn has turned into the national enquirer... the only difference being they are attacking one group all the time in 90% of their articles on the front page.

Rashomon says

That must be why so many of the major news organisations are protesting the action...

I'm not seeing any value in CNNs reporting lately, seeing as they're printing nonstop attack stories on Trump and his administration. Clearly, Trump isn't seeing any value in their relentless and hateful spin of every event.
Honestly, the way big corporate media works these days is to slant news coverage to suit their big wealthy owners. So in essence, Trump was saying "FU" to a few oligarchs, not the press in general. It's no tragedy of freedoms to deny a hostile billionaire a seat at the table, while elevating less wealthy news sources.

What was your role Cecil B. Vile?

Well since it don't affect me I'm fine with it. I just came out of 8 years on the other side of Identity politics, so how dare you talk about butt hurt and outrage.
My only regret is that it doesn't sting harder for your folks.

Rashomon says

BayArea says

How many outlets were there, and how many were banned?

Why not just read one/some of the many news reports on it?

I read multiple articles but don't have a bounded answer, do you?

Putin Fanboy says

Real Estate, Economics, Banking, and Politics,

Anyone can post on these topics and frequently do, especially regarding politics.

The proposals are all about not being trapped and exploited.

In other words, they are about expanding and guaranteeing freedom.

The amendments to the constitution are also about banning things, like limits on free speech.

"Ending" government oppression is limiting freedom?
'Splain to me, Lucy!

why on earth would the white house not want the NYT at their briefings?

The Times and CNN can Goat Fuck themselves.

Oh so you are the producer. That's cool, you didn't say in the tread.

www.youtube.com/embed/wLzeakKC6fE

When a feminist filmmaker sets out to document the mysterious and polarizing world of the Mens Rights Movement, she begins to question her own beliefs. The Red Pill chronicles Cassie Jayes journey exploring an alternate perspective on gender equality, power and privilege.

Please do tell what you know about Sally Boynton Brown.

Putin Fanboy says

It's failed pretty miserably since then

What does the data show? Keep in mind everyone became interested in RE during the last Wall Street depression.

Pathetic.

"On January 23, 2017, Brown became the subject of controversy when during the Democratic National Committee Chair Candidates Forum in Washington, D.C. she said in regard to the Black Lives Matter movement that Democrats need to offer "training" that teaches Americans "how to be sensitive and how to shut their mouths if they are white."[7] Brown went on to say that "It makes me sad that we’re even having that conversation and that tells me that white leaders in our party have failed," she said. "I’m a white woman, I don’t get it... My job is to listen and be a voice and shut other white people down when they want to interrupt." Adding, "This is life and death" she continued. "I am a human being trying to do good work and I can’t do it without y’all. So please, please, please, get ahold of me... I need schooling so I can go school the other white people."[7]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Boynton_Brown

And the strategy to drive straight white men out of the Democratic party continues to work perfectly, distracting everyone from the real issues:

jazz music says

Why should representatives funnel all that money to the billionaires?

Why does fraud and malfeasance never get prosecuted and punished except for the rarest cases?

Why does passive income remain largely untaxed and wages fall over 30 years as productivity rises?

Putin Fanboy says

But you want a law passed allowing you to exploit the Girl Scout name and branding.

What? Allowing Girl Scouts to bake their own cookies is somehow exploiting the Girl Scout brand? Please explain.

Same with Mickey Mouse.

The Constitution specifically says patents and copyrights should be allow for a limited time. To change the law every time Mickey Mouse comes close to the limit is to violate the Constitution.

Why not just bake cookies and sell them, and you can donate the money to whomsoever you so choose? That is freedom.

Why should Girl Scouts be forced to work for massive corporate bakeries? Why can't they bake their own?

Placing huge government restrictions on free labor is oppression, and advocating jail for those who defy such onerous government restriction is not freedom.
Why not advocate NO government interference in who, what, or when I hire someone and for how much? That is freedom.

Free labor? You're advocating illegal immigration to undercut US workers' wages here, right?

I love it. Can't wait to watch it.

I enjoyed it. Well worth watching.

Apparently, the DNC learned nothing from the failed strategy of trying to elect Hillary Clinton at the expense of Bernie Sanders.

Who is the Berniecrat among the DNC chair candidates?

To win those "deplorables," the Dems are going to have to cease their identity politics programs including their continual backing of affirmative action. Ain't going to happen.

So what is the right response to the continuous deliberate distraction away from the core economic issues?

Haha I remember seeing a clip of her. I figured even the left wingers would write her off as a nut job. Not actually vote her in. And I thought Palin was bad.

Brown dropped out. Down to Perez and Ellison.

Putin Fanboy says

Limit
End (3X)
Ban (3X)
Forbid
Tariff
Prohibit (3X)
Jail
Restrict
Require (3X)
Mandate
Audit

Every single law and reform ever made or that could ever be made does one of the following
1. Banning something.
2. Limiting something.
3. Auditing something.

Every good law does one of the following.
1. Banning something evil like murder.
2. Limiting something dangerous like blood alcohol levels of drivers.
3. Auditing something to prevent abuse of power and corruption through transparency and accountability like investigating a cop accused of raping a female suspect.

If you are arguing that banning, limiting, or auditing things is inherently bad and thus a red flag, then your argument is a piss poor one.

Putin Fanboy says

Does Patrick hate freedom?

No, but I think he has some slight authoritarian tendencies. That's why he doesn't get how bad Trump is.

Putin Fanboy says

What you CANNOT do is steal the Girl Scout branding and apply it to your own product.

Lol, like Girl Scouts themselves would be stealing by calling their home-baked cookies "Girl Scout Cookies"?

Dude, be serious.

Putin Fanboy says

The list of things that Patrick wants to turn over to government control is a piss poor one.

Your original post was not an attack on the particular list of things Patrick wants to solve with the government. It was an attack on passing laws that ban, limit, or audit things. That attack is weak.

If you want to attack the specific proposals then do so. Any good idea can withstand questioning and challenges. Good ideas get better and demonstrate their value the more they are challenged.

However, you should first make clear whether you are really attacking the specific proposals or attacking the general idea of using government for anything more than bare bones defense against attackers and violent members of society. If you are making a minimalist use of government argument, then Patrick's proposals are irrelevant. You should address the more general question of what are the purposes of government.

Putin Fanboy says

Require all bids on real estate to be public? What the hell business is it of his what I offer in a private transaction

You are making a presumption that Patrick is calling into question. It's like saying "Why should we take parachutes on a boat trip from NY to the Bahamas?" in response to Patrick saying "We shouldn't take a boat. We should take a plane and bring parachutes. It will be faster and cheaper getting to the Bahamas that way.".

In your case, Patrick is questioning the premise that real estate translations should be private. You may want them to be so, but can you justify it?

Putin Fanboy says

Prohibit job discrimination based on political activity outside of work? Let me translate for you: Patrick realized that he is rapidly becoming unemployable as the proprietor of racist website.

The messenger is irrelevant. Plenty of people have been fired for nothing more than exercising the freedom of speech. Patrick's proposal is justifiable because large corporations could easily control public discussion of political issues by threatening their employees, without making the threat explicit, that they will be fired or passed up for promotion if they do not publicly follow the politics in the interest of management.

This would be terrible for our republic. It would create massive corruption, fraud, and waste. Huge amounts of your taxpayer dollars would be funneled into the hands of the rich. And no public outrage over this corruption would be allowed to develop because of fear of even speaking about it.

How do you think corruption infiltrates and maintains a stronghold in an organization that starts out clean and noble? It does so by making implicit incentives to further corruption and disincentives to blowing the whistle.

Putin Fanboy says

Does Patrick hate freedom?

No.

Putin Fanboy says

Girl Scout cookies? Really?

I can only take it that your remark means you are arguing that the very name "Girl Scouts" implies that the subject is trivial and not worthy of addressing. Basing the seriousness of a case on the name of an organization involved in the case is just plain foolish.

As for the Girl Scout organizations, here are a few facts that demonstrate its significance.
1. The number of girl scouts is approximately 2.7 million .
2. The sales of Girl Scout cookies brings in revenue of about $700 million / yr. It's almost a billion dollar a year industry.
3. More than 59 million American women are alumni of the Girls Scouts. That's 37.4% of American females and about half of all American adult women.

The Girls Scouts is hardly an insignificant business or cultural influence.

I think that diabetics should mount a class action lawsuit against those smug, destructive Girl Scouts.

I can include a segment on how to turn an inexpensive Ikea cupboard and some old leather belts from Goodwill into a female subjugating plywood pillory.

Putin Fanboy says

Dan8267 says

I can only take it that your remark means you are arguing that the very name "Girl Scouts" implies that the subject is trivial and not worthy of addressing.

You are incorrect.

The point is that Patrick espouses stealing ideas, concepts, and work product of others.

If I am incorrect about what your intent is, then I have demonstrated that your post does not make the point you want to make, as my interpretation of your short sarcastic remark is the only reasonable conclusion.

Girl Scout cookies? Really?

It would be more effective to explicitly state your central point and then back it up with evidence and reasoning.

Putin Fanboy says

I'll ask you again: why don't you bake cookies and sell them WITHOUT stealing the Girl Scout branding. You can then donate all the money to the Girl Scouts or anyone else you so desire.

I'll ask you again: Why should Girl Scouts not be able to bake their own Girl Scout cookies?

What does it have to do with me?

Nothing. I don't want to bake cookies and have no interest in branding cookies as anything.

I'm just saying that Girl Scouts should have the right to bake Girl Scout cookies themselves.

Why should they not?

Please answer the question. About Girl Scouts.

Welcome back, by the way.

Putin Fanboy says

The Girl Scout Cookie branding belongs the the Girl Scouts of America, not the little girls. Like you, the little girls have done nothing in regards to cultivating and maintaining the brand.

Lol, they are the Girl Scouts of America.

But anyway, you seem to have misunderstood the proposal. I don't care what the cookies are called. I just want Girl Scouts to have the right to bake their own cookies and sell them instead of supporting a corporation.