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82520   bob2356   2017 Apr 13, 2:19pm  

Ironman says

Just remember, Obama didn't order any of Trump's people to be surveilled.... Oops.... Maybe not...

Ironman says

Nope, just the opposite, it proves that the spooks weren't listening to the Russians, and the claim that some of Trump's crew were listened to inadvertently as you claim.. The spooks (and Obama) specifically and deliberately listened to and targeted Trump's associates, and didn't find anything.

I'm thinking you just don't know what the word former means. As in he left the trump campaign. Which mean's he's not a trump associate. Repeat after me, he left the campaign, THEN he was put under surveillance. It's a hard concept, but if you really, really concentrate I think you might be able to understand it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/us/politics/carter-page-fisa-warrant-russia-trump.html?_r=0

The Justice Department considered direct surveillance of anyone tied to a political campaign as a line it did not want to cross, the official added. But its decision to seek a wiretap once it was clear that Mr. Page had left the campaign was the latest indication that, as Mr. Trump built his insurgent run for the White House, the F.B.I. was deeply concerned about whether any of his associates were colluding with Russia.

Ironman says

(oh crap, after all that surveillance, NO PROOF)..... so sad..

Yep so sad that there is no proof that has been released from an ongoing investigation. Ongoing is one of those hard words, like former.

82521   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 13, 2:33pm  

bob2356 says

The Justice Department considered direct surveillance of anyone tied to a political campaign as a line it did not want to cross, the official added. But its decision to seek a wiretap once it was clear that Mr. Page had left the campaign was the latest indication that, as Mr. Trump built his insurgent run for the White House, the F.B.I. was deeply concerned about whether any of his associates were colluding with Russia.

OR, that it was an excuse that the investigation could begin and thereby smearing Trump via Page if anything was found.

Which seems to have not been the case, they apparently found nothing.

82522   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 13, 6:19pm  

‘We expect him to keep his word, and right now he’s not keeping his word,’ says one campaign supporter.
It's not that Trump lies,it's that his supporters are suckers.

Day one: I will declare China a currency scoundrel.
It's hard to be a full time golfer & President.

82523   Ceffer   2017 Apr 13, 7:28pm  

Give him time, give him time. Eventually, Trumpligula will commit some act of heinous, bigoted, violent narcissism that would make Kim Jong-Un retch, and re-enamor himself of his base.

82524   Shaman   2017 Apr 13, 8:43pm  

Truly you are a trendsetting wanker!

82525   Dan8267   2017 Apr 13, 9:46pm  

I'm not sure if I'm scared or relieved that Trump has enough free time on his hands to engage in a Twitter flame war.

82526   Ceffer   2017 Apr 13, 11:05pm  

When Stewart starts making jokes about yams, cannibal anarchy, and eating face, we will know for sure he is a common plagiarist.

He is a flaming liberal, so he won't touch "immense hirsute lesbian".

82527   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 14, 2:52am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

like WHO IS MELANOMA FUCKING NOW, FUCKFACE?

So tempting. Might need to start a go fund me campaign for legal and medical fees after that one.

82528   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 14, 2:54am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

If he cared about comedy, he'd ride one to work.

Jesus fucking a goat. That was funny. Whatever you were drinking last night, have some more tonight.

82529   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 14, 7:30am  

FUCK the FACE of anyone that isn't calling for the BOYCOTT of ALL Republicans,constantly.

It's TRUMPLIGULA! It's on the birth certificate!

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

The Vietnamese place had a drier Aussie riesling out yesterday. It was a tossup between that and the also ran chardonnay. I'll head back this afternoon and see if it helps again.

Golden Grain & Gatorade or enjoy WIMPISM!

82530   Shaman   2017 Apr 14, 1:35pm  

I used to visit friends who obsessed over that show and always had it on. Of course they only watched it while baked so I assume it was funnier that way.
Maybe you would fit in with my baked friends, jazz! Somehow that makes me like you better.

82531   FortWayne   2017 Apr 14, 2:46pm  

Nice, those been fun

82532   Tenpoundbass   2017 Apr 14, 4:32pm  

Well perhaps you and I should have a proxy flame war through Jon Stewart and Donald Trump.

82533   komputodo   2017 Apr 14, 10:42pm  

jazz music says

ACTIVISM led to this reform of the rules in many states. Arizona just joined the list!

This represents another Republican governor adding himself to the list making vitally needed liberal changes to make Arizona streets safer.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/04/13/arizona-makes-it-tougher-for-police-to-s

Why is that a LIBERAL CHANGE? How about: This represents another governor making Arizona streets safer. Why all the political BS all the time? I seriously doubt that AZ's streets are safer because the governor made a rule that police can't seize your personal property.

82534   Dan8267   2017 Apr 14, 10:55pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

infamous video of a United Airlines passenger being ripped from his seat is prompting other customers to come forward with their own complaints.ABC11' sister station in New York has learned about a disturbing alleged incident aboard a flight out of Newark involving physical and sexual harassment.

Was it Donald Trump or Bill O'Reilly? The American public have a right to know.

82535   Bellingham Bill   2017 Apr 14, 10:56pm  

Ironworker says

Corrections are naturally occurring and the people who make real money in stocks are not trying to time them. They pay less in taxes, stare at screens less and enjoy life more. Correction timers are real success in investing game.

I was just back-testing a simple moving-average market timing strategy vs buy and hold:

This is adding $1000/mo in cash to your position every month, since 1980.

Blue is # of S&P 500 Index shares via Buy & Hold,
Red # shares held by simple market timing of getting out when there's a SMA cross of death and getting back in when the price recovers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_average_crossover

Shows this worked great in the 2002 and 2008 crashes, but more recently it's just chopping too much

82536   Ceffer   2017 Apr 14, 11:04pm  

Yes, it's a violation of the Constitution to let some drunk sit next to you on a flight who beats off and ejaculates on you and then barfs down your cleavage.

The next time, she should stay out of the cockpit.

82537   bob2356   2017 Apr 15, 4:52am  

komputodo says

I seriously doubt that AZ's streets are safer because the governor made a rule that police can't seize your personal property.

Maybe you should look at how civil forfeiture is actually being used vs how it was intended to be used before you make such a judgement. The streets are much safer, only the criminals can steal from you now instead of the criminals and the police.

82538   Y   2017 Apr 15, 5:00am  

It's not.
The change was initiated and executed by a republican governor.

komputodo says

Why is that a LIBERAL CHANGE?

82539   anonymous   2017 Apr 15, 7:09am  

Easy solution. Commercial grade Re-Accomadation pitchforks for all passengers once they pass through TSA rape gates

82540   BayArea   2017 Apr 15, 8:02am  

Does anyone have a visual of the re-accommodation pitchfork and is it available with 2day delivery on Amazon Prime?

82541   Patrick   2017 Apr 15, 9:54am  

Bellingham Bill says

I was just back-testing a simple moving-average market timing strategy vs buy and hold:

@"Bellingham Bill" what software did you use for that test and graph?

82542   anonymous   2017 Apr 15, 11:15am  

I'd kill to see a density map of the houses with that "we don't care who you are or where you're from, we're glad you're our neighbor " sign out front.

When I'm driving through the city i rarel see them, but as soon as you get out of the city to places where people can afford to sleep shouting distance apart from one another, they're everywhere.

82543   Bellingham Bill   2017 Apr 15, 11:33am  

I got the S&P 500 historical data from yahoo finance and did the calculations in excel 2008 on my hackintosh . . .

82544   missing   2017 Apr 15, 11:56am  

Bellingham Bill says

did the calculations in excel

Masochist

82545   curious2   2017 Apr 15, 12:08pm  

errc says

through the city

In cities I see business windows with signs advertising (virtue signaling) that they don't discriminate on the basis of religion, race, sex, etc. The funniest was actually a gay bar. They make almost all of their money selling alcohol, which Islam prohibits Muslims from buying, and almost all of their customers are gay men, whom Islam commands Muslims to kill. They're practically inviting another Orlando Pulse attack, but it seems virtuous to them. I've never seen hijabs lining up to go in, but I guess whoever put up the sign figures the virtue signaling helps the business, or is a sort of "moral" obligation.

82546   Shaman   2017 Apr 15, 12:16pm  

Right, I've always pitied gays as either confused or damaged individuals, so the mental disconnect of inviting gay-hating Muslims to ram a semi-auto up their ass seems normal. Too many gay men are victims of childhood sexual abuse (by men) to ignore this as a triggering mechanism for turning a boy gay. The gay women I've known (yes some in my family also) are mostly also formerly abused and either afraid of men in a visceral way or angry at them because of mistreatment. And lest they be left out, there are men raised by women who have been so feminized that they go gay. Coworker's brother qualifies there. There are also the unicorns who were born that way, or born without much testosterone, so going gay is actually a social step up in this society.
Bottom line: gays are pitiable, not enviable. We should be kind to these unfortunate individuals, but we shouldn't even consider following their lead in pretty much anything.

82547   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 15, 5:42pm  

curious2 says

I'm also curious who Liked your comment. Some people prefer reinforcement of their ignorance, rather than facts, and I'm curious to see who prefers ignorance over evidence.

Liked for the bit about Gay-hating Muslims. Disagree somewhat with the rest. There are "Sissy" Men who dress as women but fuck girls (like Riley), because there are women who lean straight but afraid of men, so they "college lesbian" for a while. This gets the Hardcore Identitarian Lesbians upset enough to cancel a Multidecade music festival because they're not womyn born womyn, but really because they dislike having to compete with Chicks with DIcks for Pussy access. A guy like Riley has a big advantage over a Dyke with no dick, yet if "safe" enough for heterosexual/bisexual women who are generally afraid of "normal" masculine men. Hence all their materials about "Fake Men" "infiltrating" "womyn's spaces". It's really about THEIR monopoly on pussy in lesbian spaces.

Not everybody by a long shot, but there is strong sexual competition among homosexuals that sometimes affects heterosexuals. Certainly there is a TERF/Dyke element that would prefer all males disappear. And there is some truth that there are a number of gay guys interested in straight dudes.

82548   Ceffer   2017 Apr 15, 5:58pm  

This must be the Koch Brothers poll. The CNN poll found it to be 99.999 percent.

82549   curious2   2017 Apr 15, 6:05pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Liked for the bit about Gay-hating Muslims

Liked for candor.

Also, credit where it's due, @Quigley, I updated my earlier comment above because recent data have shown some correlation between childhood sexual abuse and subsequent adult homosexuality, mainly among males. I had based my original comment on prior research showing no correlation. Still, most of the claims linking these two things are religious sites that insist without data, while the scientific evidence remains ambiguous: kids (especially boys) who "act gay" or say they're gay are more likely to get abused for doing that, and it's difficult to sort out chicken/egg causation with much confidence. I do learn from PatNet, and theories must yield to data.

82550   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 15, 6:41pm  

Interesting!

It could also be, that more passive boys are not only the likely targets of being called gay, but also targets of Child Abusers.

Anyway I'm glad we live in today's age rather than former eras where your own mother would think you a liar for saying Father Mayi touched your pee-pee.

82551   Dan8267   2017 Apr 15, 7:25pm  

Does it really matter why some people are gay other than to understand the subject matter? It's not like the reason they are gay should have any effect on the law, or civil rights, or social attitudes towards homosexuality. Sure, it's a valid scientific question and knowledge should be pursued because you don't know what wisdom could be gained until after you have the knowledge. But it should not be a political question.

82552   Patrick   2017 Apr 15, 7:49pm  

I don't get why both graphs show a logarithmic rather than exponential increase.

If you're adding $1K/mo, it should at the very least be a linear increase.

82553   Bellingham Bill   2017 Apr 15, 8:36pm  

S & P index is going up so each $1000 is buying fewer and fewer shares

Is the total value of the shares in the two strategies -- buy and hold is a 4.5X return while the SMA cross signal is 7.8X

82554   Patrick   2017 Apr 15, 8:40pm  

What is the y-axis in your original graph? Dollars or shares?

82555   Bellingham Bill   2017 Apr 15, 10:23pm  

shares of the S&P 500 index fund

82556   marcus   2017 Apr 16, 8:45am  

Tenpoundbass says

A bogus health inspection report is just petty piss poor attempt at Liberals to desperately be relevant again.

Obviously.

Tenpoundbass says

Think I'll go up there for lunch today.

You should have the sushi

82557   Ceffer   2017 Apr 16, 9:47am  

"Are those croutons?" "No, those are the tsetse flies that fell off the bug zapper."

82558   Shaman   2017 Apr 17, 11:52am  

I keep a fairly open mind about such things. If anyone wants do cite scientific research on sexual preference and history of abuse, I'll listen. Maybe it's all anecdotal or maybe the research necessary to discover the truth is WILDLY UNPOPULAR! I'm not afraid of being politically incorrect (at least not on an anonymous forum LOL) and this should be an exchange of ideas, not a witch hunt.
I don't hate gays, I do pity them, and have even liked several as the people they are aside from what they do in private which frankly I don't want to know about. I've also been hit on by gay men in an uncomfortable way on several occasions that sort of freaked me out. So I'm not buying the assertion that they only go after other gay men.
My religion leads me to believe I should love the sinner (and aren't we all?) but not condone the sin.
I don't see how that's a hateful position to take.
I was upset at the massacre in Orlando. Those people didn't deserve sharia punishment, they deserved understanding and support.

82559   curious2   2017 Apr 17, 12:53pm  

Quigley says

If anyone wants do cite scientific research on sexual preference and history of abuse, I'll listen.

I found quite a bit, including some studies showing some correlation among males, but the results are in probabilities, not a 1:1 correlation. Most people who are gay haven't been abused, and most people who have been abused don't grow up to be gay. Also, more girls than boys get abused, yet more males than females identify as gay. The most candid summaries say they can't really give exact probabilities, including one favorite reply on Quora: "How does... being taught how to bake a bread, influence home-cooking?" If you like bread, you might be more likely to bake bread if someone shows you how. If you start from a religious opposition to leavened bread, then that might seem like a bad thing, and if you start with a religious objection to sex (in general or some types in particular) then you might crusade like Tipper Gore against 'adult lyrics' in music or like Texas 'Christians' against sex ed in school.

Quigley says

love the sinner (and aren't we all?) but not...the sin.
I don't see how that's a hateful position to take.

It isn't inherently, especially since we are all sinners. It is however a position too often misused by some to deny others the equal protection of the laws. Some people use religion as a mask for hatred, and some people believe in religions that command them to hate and kill (e.g. Islam), and people are probably more likely to identify with and believe in religions that affirm their emotions (whether love or hate). Exit surveys following Prop H8 showed religion was by far the strongest predictor of voting patterns: more than 80% of Evangelicals voted for an unconstitutional restriction despite being told specifically it was unconstitutional and indefensible (per the Attorney General, a Democrat) and "a waste of time" (per the governor, a Republican), while more than 80% of agnostics and atheists voted against it. It offered no benefit to anyone other than imposing religious beliefs with the force of law (the temptation of wrath), spending millions of dollars to indulge bigotry and hate by discriminating against a small percentage of the population who hadn't done anything wrong (or at least nothing worse than everyone else).

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