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82560   Entitlemented   2017 Apr 17, 5:35pm  

It would cost America its Sovernity, as more democrats would race to the bottom with arts, film, communicatiions, and outdoor study majors.

And they would bullhorn on CNN and MSNBC that they should be made to make as much as people who make things, and many would become Attorneys.

82561   marcus   2017 Apr 17, 5:44pm  

So how many years of that could we get for what we've spent on the Iraq war ?

82562   marcus   2017 Apr 17, 5:49pm  

Entitlemented says

It would cost America its Sovernity, as more democrats would race to the bottom with arts, film, communicatiions, and outdoor study majors.

Total BS. You don't think most people would use it to try to study things they can make a living at ? Don't forget, they have to live those years, so the cost to them in time, food and housing is much more. They know that. Ever since a few decades ago, students have focussed much more on paths that lead to a job that might even support a family.

Some argue too much so, and that a good liberal arts degree is sometimes more valuable in the job market or as a stepping stone to a masters degree in business or whatever.

If tuition is mostly covered by the government, women's studies majors are going to be getting no more respect than they get now.

82563   FortWayne   2017 Apr 17, 6:24pm  

Costs need to go down. Subsidies just increase costs in long run.

82564   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 17, 7:38pm  

Is it as much as the unfunded,estimated cost of $ 4-6 trillion for Republicans Afghanistan & Iraq wars?
That money didn't go to education. That's why they are STUPID FUCKS!

82565   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 17, 7:39pm  

I've got a better reform plan.

Cap Student loans to $3,000/year.

Easy Credit spikes Prices.

82566   Ceffer   2017 Apr 17, 11:47pm  

7) Agent Orange laced martini, go old school on Dao's ass.

82567   curious2   2017 Apr 18, 1:34am  

Turkey is practically giving away sarin gas to any Sunni militia that promises to fight the Assad regime. Most major airlines have probably a few empoyees who could pass for Sunni militia, so send them to score some free sarin and hook it up to the coach ventilators. Need to clear some seats? Drop the O2 masks for business class and crew, gas the riff raff in coach, and tell the survivors to bring out their dead. Everybody knows that it's already in the contract of carriage, and besides you can always blame it on the Assad government. Just dump the bodies onto the tarmac and re-sell the seats to local sherriffs trying to get rid of their vagrant population. Shave one penny off the ticket price and you'll make it all back and more on volume.

And if any crafty passengers try to bring their own gas masks, count on TSA to confiscate the masks and beat those terrorists to a pulp as warning to others.

82568   Shaman   2017 Apr 18, 7:45am  

How would we enslave young people from the start then? If we aren't chaining them with thousands in hopeless debt, how will we make them into good little corporate drones?

82570   CBOEtrader   2017 Apr 18, 9:15am  

11)Dao is compensated for his troubles via email w a $50 off next United flight coupon

82571   Entitlemented   2017 Apr 18, 10:16am  

marcus says

So how many years of that could we get for what we've spent on the Iraq war ?

We got the Iraq war because we did not take seriously the WTC attacks of 1993. We got the Iraq war because we did not understand how to prevent SH from taking over Kuwait. We got terrorism because we found out that OBL did the African embassy bombings. US then sent a special team to get OBL. The policians said to "stand down" when they found OBL. US intelligence did not know about the 2001 incident in advance.

The funds spent on terror are like a start up with lots of money from a rogue son of an Oil Barron.

Democrats almost always leave out the background details, and in doing this they create disengenous arguements.

It appears that the terrorist bolstered their boldness and strength during Clintons presidency when no push back or protection of US assets was administered. This only sent a message to any terrorist that they could push us around, and then we get democratic whiners to try to cast blame elsewhere.

This is one of the reasons why Hillary did not get elected. This lack of terror response, NAFTA and CRA were terrible for the USA. The former is a physical terror, and the latter being a financial terror effectively.

82572   Ceffer   2017 Apr 18, 12:43pm  

12) Dao sues United for 10 million dollars for not getting his free peanuts and 30 million for mental and physical distress. United mails him a dog collar and leash as settlement offer.

82573   curious2   2017 Apr 18, 12:50pm  

CBOEtrader says

11)Dao is compensated for his troubles via email w a $50 off next United flight coupon

The coupon should be for a different airline that beats passengers even worse, so runaways would come crawling back begging to be re-accommodated into the cargo hold.

82574   anonymous   2017 Apr 18, 2:50pm  

I'm sure he's just a misunderstood nigger

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Really?

82575   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 18, 3:04pm  

Well, another mentally ill Muslim.

So, maybe we should use Islam to track those in danger of mental illness leading to homicidal bursts of rage, then?

82576   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 3:05pm  

Ironman says

Muhammad has a criminal history in federal court with indications of previously mental health issues

That's enough to make him a good Muslim. Allah must be proud.

82577   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 3:06pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Well, another mentally ill Muslim.

So, maybe we should use Islam to track those in danger of mental illness leading to homicidal bursts of rage, then?

If they covert to Islam, they must be both, stupid and dangerous.

82578   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 3:48pm  

Ironman says

Erik Gomez‏ @erikagsp7 3m3 minutes ago

Muslim? Check

Black? Check

Biggest Gun control State? Check

Hates white people? Check

Imagine if he was:
Christian
White
Hates Black Muslims

82579   Patrick   2017 Apr 18, 3:53pm  

Why Fresno?

Berkeley would have been a better choice.

82580   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 6:07pm  

Ironman says

Is this how they dress in Fresno? Did he just blend into the crowd?

It's California. He would fit in perfectly.

82581   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 6:15pm  

Ironman says

Ahhhh CNN, you can count on them for "accurate" reporting...

(CNN) A man wanted in the slaying of a motel security guard fatally shot three men he apparently chose at random, Fresno, California, police said.


All three men killed in Tuesday's shootings are white. Suspect Kori Ali Muhammad has posted on social media a dislike for white people and government officials, Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer said.

A "dislike" for white people... oh boy.... Reports were it took HOURS for CNN to actual report the story...

They had to make sure he was a Muslim first. The name "Mohammad" was not good enough. Neither was it convincing when he yelled "Allah ho Akbar"

82582   Ceffer   2017 Apr 18, 6:57pm  

What soreheads. O'Reilly has offered to change his show's byline from "the no spin zone" to the "no masturbation or molestation zone".

82583   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 18, 7:22pm  

SEXUAL CHOCOLATE

www.youtube.com/embed/otEm_aI2Vac

My dad circa 15 years ago: "That guy is a pervert."

82584   marcus   2017 Apr 18, 7:46pm  

Ironman says

Approximately 45% drop out of college NOW and never get a degree, and they are actually paying for going? What do you think the drop out rate will be when college is FREE??

You think that when the government subsidizes college, there are suddenly more spaces open at decent colleges ? The government needs to not pay it for people that can't either get in to a good public University of better, or get good grades at a good community college (which isn't that much cost to subsidize anyway).

School have limits on the number of students, and they have admissions requirements. With subsidies, admission requirements could possibly even go up. As it is now, a majority of students at all capable of going to college, or some sort of training after high school, do so.

82585   marcus   2017 Apr 18, 11:18pm  

Ironman says

So, if all these kids get affordable college costs from Bernie, where will they go to school? How is Bernie going to fix the shortage problem? Will he build more colleges too??

IT's not as much about more going as it is people taking on less debt to go.

82586   Ceffer   2017 Apr 19, 1:02pm  

"How To Make Obscene Phone Calls Without Getting Fired" by Bill O'Reilly, with a forward by Anthony Weiner. "One of the best books I have ever read!" ...Eliot Spitzer

"A must read" Bill Cosby

82587   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 19, 2:19pm  

You going to tell us how much you paid in income taxes last year or are you just going to keep acting like a Female dog.

82588   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 19, 2:27pm  

Silver Spoon Trump hasn't paid any taxes for years!
To prove me wrong,show the tax returns.

82589   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 19, 2:35pm  

Trump says 'only suckas pay taxes'. Smart people avoid 'em.

82590   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 19, 2:42pm  

APO,see what you started with Ceffer.
Hope your happy! Lmao

82591   Rew   2017 Apr 19, 3:40pm  

Ironman says

Many Americans discovered they don’t owe the government a dime.

Care to talk about historical tax rate trends and the differences, historically, between taxes on income from wages versus income from investments?

Do you think that has lead to the wealth disparity we see now, or is it only the general crumble of America due to it shirking traditional values for cis-gender-unicorn-snowflakenomics?

82593   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 19, 4:04pm  

Ironman says

Compared to you being part of that 44%?

I'm not, but you haven't denied it...

82594   Rew   2017 Apr 19, 4:14pm  

Ironman says

Are those tax dollars a different color green?

No different color. Very different rates.

What about the effective tax rate for those making 400K versus those making 10,000K?

82595   DramaticStyle   2017 Apr 19, 4:45pm  

Ironman says

More than four in 10 American households (44.3%) — or upwards of 76 million — didn’t pay any income tax to the federal government last year,

It is amazing the 44.3% of households don't make enough money to owe taxes. That's terrible. Where is the outrage? What is trump going to do about this?

It's crazy that the top 50% pay 97% of the taxes. We really need to get back to historical norms of the 1950's and 1960's where the top 50% payed 95% of the taxes. It's outrageous how much more the top 50% pay today.

82596   curious2   2017 Apr 19, 4:52pm  

Ironman says

Many Americans discovered they don’t owe the government a dime.

That's a bit misleading. The federal government charges Social Security and Medicare taxes, subscriber line fees, import duties, excise taxes, estate taxes, etc. Also, with two Presidents in a row doubling the national debt, the living owe more and more every year.

The personal income tax should probably be replaced with pollution fees, other taxes (land value, estates, corporate income), import duties, excises on property insurance, etc. Personal taxes become inevitably too invasive, but that's now apparently the point: Total Information Awareness thinly disguised as revenue.

82597   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 19, 4:57pm  

I wonder what role Putin played in all this?

Maddow probably won't cover that tonight, she'll be too busy connecting Ossoff's defeat to the Kremlin.

82598   Rew   2017 Apr 19, 5:06pm  

Love how you just ask questions and never take a stance. Cute.

Ironman says

What actually pays the bills in the country, tax "rates" or tax "dollars"?

Tax dollars pay it, and how and where those dollars come from are determined by the tax rates. So the answer, to your BS question, is "both".

Historically, rates haven't been this low since almost just prior to the great depression. (Gosh what was that whole Depressioney thing caused by again?)

So while the "rich" do pay most of the tax, they are paying FAR LESS than historical norms. The middle is paying heavily and shrinking. Income inequality has skyrocketed. Less brackets and progressive stratification of the tax system as well. We can make it far simpler and far more progressive than it is.

How much Zero Hedge shapes your world view?

I'll expect you reply with only more questions, as above. It's kind of a shame you don't go learn for yourself or contribute more to your own thread. But, it's safer to just ask questions though, and not take an actual stance, isn't it? (ironic question in more ways than one)

It's also far safer to be against something rather than for something. Trump is learning this bigly.

82599   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 19, 5:15pm  

WAH! WAH! WAH!
He brought it on himself!

What was that about pissing off people?

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