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joeyjojojunior says

Trump declassified all the info already, right?

If its not illegal, he would certainly be fired. Regardless, this source needs to stay anonymous.

Do you really think he texted the MSM outlets? Does anyone know how this went down?

You guys have an idea in your head-that Hilalry hatched-and tie everything to it. The craziness is just bizarre-have fun.

The only thing Trump mentioned was the Laptop Threat, something the TSA announced to the public, banning laptops for MENA flights back 2 months ago.
https://www.wired.com/2017/03/tsas-new-ban-laptops-cabins-may-not-worst-thing/

Rumor is the info in the leak to Wapo includes far, far, more detail than Trump ever discussed with Lavrov . The leaker is disseminating OTHER national security secrets that were not even discussed at the meeting.

"If its not illegal, he would certainly be fired. Regardless, this source needs to stay anonymous. Do you really think he texted the MSM outlets? Does anyone know how this went down?"

The point is it is VERY easy to give the same quote to multiple media outlets.

"The info in the leak to Wapo includes far, far, more detail than Trump discussed with Lavrov. The leaker is disseminating OTHER national security secrets that were not even discussed at the meeting."

Bullshit. You have no idea in hell.

"Nope, but apparently there is a rumor this is the case. If so, an investigation must begin immediately; obviously the WaPo did not vet their anonymous source."

Sounds great. It was a member of Trump's inner circle. Let's appoint a special counsel and he/she can investigate Trump's ties to Russia as well as which member of Trump's inner circle is leaking.

joeyjojojunior says

Bullshit. You have no idea in hell.

Kind of like the evidence linking Trump and Russia, ie a complete and total lack, even the weakest circumstantial pieces, like the Trump Servers communicating with Russian Banks that turned out to be Marketing Spam sent to Wealthy Russians

However, the evidence Hillary mishandled classified emails, that Huma left classified emails on the personal computer (strike 1) of a suspected sex offender (strike 2), is firm. The fact Podesta Group filed 5 years late about being paid to lobby by pro-Russian Ukrainian Group, the same one that paid Manafort who was investigated, is also firmly evidenced by their own filings. That needs an investigation.

The Podesta email about getting all leakers and the daytime, robbery-free murder of Rich is also deserving of an investigation.

Here's the official explanation from The White House:

Last Wednesday, President Donald J. Trump met with the Russian Foreign Minister and discussed counterterrorism and the common civil aviation security threats to the United States and Russia. Senior cabinet and national security advisors were present at the exchange between the President and Foreign Minister and agree that the conversations were appropriate, legitimate, and an important part of America’s efforts to combat the global terrorist threat. At no time during the meeting were any sources, methods, or military operations jeopardized. Civil aviation threats are real and there is nothing more important to President Trump than the safety and security of the American people.

"Kind of like the evidence linking Trump and Russia, ie a complete and total lack, even the weakest circumstantial pieces, like the Trump Servers communicating with Russian Banks that turned out to be Marketing Spam sent to Wealthy Russians"

No, nothing like that.

1. We don't know what the evidence is as the FBI hasn't disclosed what they have found.
2. The Trump Servers didn't turn out to be Marketing Spam. That is one possible explanation, albeit an explanation that doesn't seem to fit the facts. Again. Another reason for a special counsel to investigate and get to the bottom of it. Why are the Republicans fighting it?

What do they have to hide?

Dan8267 says

bob2356 says

You have to be at war with a country to commit treason.

The United States is in a constant state of war with everyone else.

A declared war. The kind where congress votes on a formal declaration of war not a resolution for the use of military force. Article 1 section 8 of the constitution.

"Nope. There's been no evidence since investigations began into Trump and his Associates in July of last year, about 300 days ago. At this point, there is no evidence, and all circumstantial leads have been shown to be fruitless."

And you know this how? Have you seen what the FBI has found?

So Trump gave one enemies information to another, who cares.

Nothing secret here. TSA announced laptop restrictions on aviation from the MENA months ago.

CBOEtrader says

we can NOT definitively judge Trump's decision w hysterics.

I don't see hysterics. I see another data point.

People such as David Brooks reacting so strongly (with his piece about Trumps childishness) are showing a pent up disappointment. It's not just this, it's not just Comey firing and this. It's Not just the crazy tweets, the Comey firing and this. It accumulates and unfortunately will continue to accumulate. It's the trend that people are reacting to so strongly. Not one thing.

But it's true that his supporters aren't there yet. But more and more you're going to be hearing from all the conservatives that were reluctant supporters in the first place.

CBOEtrader says

Knowing less than all relevant facts is enough to make a hysterical judgement to you? Got it.

Some of us like to think critically.

So where was all this critical thinking and waiting for relevant facts when Obama was president? It's different now some how?

Is that what this is all about? I thought it was because Trump gave Russia 3 scoops of ice cream.

Fun things on Twitter right now ...

A German Paper:

This Tweet:
WaPo: The president shat himself.
White House: The president would never shit himself.
Trump: I SHAT MYSELF ON PURPOSE

Every. Fucking. Day.

bob2356 says

So where was all this critical thinking and waiting for relevant facts when Obama was president? It's different now some how?

But but ...

OBAMA WIRE TAPPED TRUMP!
BENGHAZI!
BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
SECRET MUSLIM!
SHE SMELLS OF SULFUR AND DEATH!

(laughing my ass off)

When facts and truth are on your side, what more can you do but laugh your ass off.

(my best Anderson Cooper eye roll goes here)

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Nothing secret here. TSA announced laptop restrictions on aviation from the MENA months ago.

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed? I'd like to read it. Post it here please.

Rew says

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed? I'd like to read it. Post it here please.

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed? I'd like to read it. Post it here please.

:-)

Hah! Troll methodology never changes!

rando says

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed? I'd like to read it. Post it here please.

It has been requested by Senate Intel Committee. :) We are waiting. (tapping feet). We are also waiting for the Comey tapes. (tap tap tap)
Say it with me Patrick: Tapes, Transcripts, and Taxes

Since Trump declassified what was talked about the transcripts can become public knowledge, right? We should just get those out in the open now. Nothing to hide. :)

Trump probably couldn't hold onto the Presidency with a single one of the "Ts" above, released.

Driving public policy.

Straw Man says

By doing what? Driving Suburbans?

By preventing humanity from uniting against a systemic threat and taking action so we can survive.

Rew says

Trump probably couldn't hold onto the Presidency with a single one of the "Ts" above, released.

I think that the personal taxes wouldn't be that informative. He would have to include the tax reports of all of the companies he holds majority share in.

His strange behavior is increasing interest in these things that people would otherwise let pass.rando says

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed?

People in his own administration are leaking things to the press. Why do you suppose this is if not for genuine concern. Conservatives are stating that this was a leak from a long time Trump supporter.

Phillipines-is it safe with that Duerte guy in power??

Being confirmed in news now, the additional information Trump shared was: city of origination of the ISIS threat and some details of our counter operations.

Straw Man says

By doing what? Driving Suburbans?

If one person drives a Suburban 15K miles a year, it's not going to end the world. If everybody does it, it will make a dent. Same goes for frequent air travel.

It's kind of like voting. If one person votes for Trump, nothing happens. If millions do it, we have a circus.

CBOEtrader says

In dan's mind antifa, Youtube/Google/FB, SJW's, ISIS, top universities banning offensive course content, and every western liberal democracy with anti-hate speech laws are all conservatives.

Actually, no. And you don't get to decide what my position is. I do.

Also, there are no democracies in the world today. Really, do I have to explain that?

Wow, errc, you still have a stick up your ass about that joke? For someone with a Jim Carey avatar, you are ironically devoid of a sense of humor. You should ditch the fake outrage. No one thinks you are a better person for displaying false offense.

Dan8267 says

Wow, errc, you still have a stick up your ass about that joke? For someone with a Jim Carey avatar, you are ironically devoid of a sense of humor. You should ditch the fake outrage. No one thinks you are a better person for displaying false offense.

How do you figure i still give half a shit?

DanTheCuck says

Liberals have never, ever burned books. Conservatives frequently do.

These are anti free speech groups today: antifa, Youtube/Google/FB, SJW's, ISIS, top universities banning offensive course content, and every western liberal democracy with anti-hate speech laws.

By your own words you define the anti free speech fanatics as conservatives.

YesYNot says

If one person drives a Suburban 15K miles a year, it's not going to end the world. If everybody does it, it will make a dent. Same goes for frequent air travel.

I agree. Let's wait until everyone stops driving Suburbans to stop driving our. In meantime let's bitch and moan and post graphs.

bob2356 says

Article 1 section 8 of the constitution

...was made irrelevant after WWII.

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Do these people have a vested interest in preventing a "Border Tax"?

Tinfoil hat time. I guess that's progress, in a way.

You posted a reference to a joke long forgotten. Your actions divulge your obsession.

CBOEtrader says

These are anti free speech groups today: antifa, Youtube/Google/FB, SJW's, ISIS, top universitie

YouTube, Google, and to some extent Facebook, do not give a damn about speech content, but care deeply about advertiser dollars and advertisers don't want their products or companies associated with negative imagery, controversy, or anything else that would cause people to be less likely to make an emotional and unwise purchase. They care about money, not the content of speech. Even Facebook, which you can make some case likes to steer public opinion on politics, will gladly give in its principles to chase dollars like Republicans caving in on national security and Russia's sphere of influence to get deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy.

Antifa, ISIS, and most universities are conservatives. They may be different tribes from the conservative right, but they believe in the same core principles and tactics. Just different flavors of the same shit. None of those three things are even remotely liberal. Milo Yiannopoulos is far more liberal than any of them. At least he believes in the free and open debating of ideas. That's essentially what liberalism is about, liberty.

I think I understand Trump's strategy. When the inevitable trial against him starts, he can plead insanity because no sane person would admit on television to committing multiple crimes. I think with the right lawyer, he'll get off.

The funny thing is this latest story was leaked by Trump insider(s) and has been corroborated by Trump himself but yet you have the cultists on here blaming the media. It truly is bizzaro world.

marcus says

Tinfoil hat time. I guess that's progress, in a way.

Yes, because Jeff Bezos and Carlos Slim are dedicated to American Workers' prosperity.