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There's a story on the front page of the LA Times today; it's about a woman who became severely disabled in childbirth in June 2006. The question isn't whether she should be kept alive - insurance paid for months in the hospital followed by months in rehab; she's now living in her parent's house off a malpractice award. According to the article her care costs $33,000 per month (all paid by the award). The question is visitation.

Her grandparents insist she should have visitation with her children. Her ex-husband insists that it would be traumatic for the children - triplets - and won't allow it unless the court orders otherwise. They're divorced now, he's the single parent of four-year olds. It should be mentioned that Abbie Dorn is able to blink yes or no, and blinks "yes" to whether she'd like to see her kids. Otherwise, she has no command of her body.

Her ex-husband says that it would be too traumatic for the kids right now... but doesn't rule out a visit later on. So here's the question: should the mother be allowed to see the kids in person, even if it would freak out the kids? Does the need of the mother outweigh the need of the kids?

This isn't an invitation for partisan commentary on the state of healthcare. It's a human issue.

All these claims come exclusively from AM talk radio, tea baggers, and far-right wingnuts. Which one(s) are you?

Your hysterical exaggerations, especially the one you posted yesterday takes the cake over anything coming from the "teabaggers".

Yesterday you wrote this:

Only 17% of each dollar taken in by insurance companies is spent on health care. The other 83% is wasted.

This is/was absolutely incredible ignorance. Had you listened to AM radio you would have known better. You hate out of ignorance, accusing anyone who points out the falsehoods in your drivel as "teabaggers" or "far-right wingnuts".

When Obama was in Selma, he told the audience that as a result of the Selma march his parents conceived him. Except that Obama was born 4 years before that march. He lied.

He also told the audience that the Kennedy's sponsored his father's immigration to the US (they didn't).

In his book 'Dreams of my father' he blatently lied about his first job working for a "consulting house to multinational corporations" in which he claimed to be a bigshot conducting interviews with “Japanese financiers and German bond traders” when in fact he was a junior copy editor working for a small publishing company which published a newsletter on international business. He lied about his job in order to set up his narrative of being someone who gave up the wealthy wall street lifestyle to become a community organizer. How noble of him. And now we learn that he was faking his 'common man' ChiSox schpeel. It was just another of a long string of dishonesty.

When someone establishes a pattern of lying about trivial inconsequential things, they will lie about anything and everything. Obama is simply not an honest man.

Yea, you already said that.

Nomograph says

Your hysterical exaggerations, especially the one you posted yesterday takes the cake over anything coming from the “teabaggers”.

Nomo, are you hysterical? Is that why you're home sick?

Actually, I have the sources for these data in a policy report in my office.

Of course! A "policy report" such as that would only be in paper form, not available on the internet where people might be able to scrutinize it.

Please keep us apprised of this esteemed mystery source which you've cited that drastically contradicts established studies on insurance payout percentages. You can share it with us while you're screaming "teabaggers" at the top of your lungs.

ZippyDDoodah says

Actually, I have the sources for these data in a policy report in my office.
Of course! A “policy report” such as that would only be in paper form, not available on the internet where people might be able to scrutinize it.

How do you know that the policy report to which he refers isn't available on the interweb? He has it at work and can't cite it right now, does that mean that it doesn't exist in the world of interweb posters? There are many things in this world that aren't available to you, and your post shows exactly why.

Nomograph says

AdHominem says

I didn’t know the Oakland A’s were so popular in Hawaii? Bet he can’t name any of them either! What kind of comeback is that anyway, “I’m wearing a White Sox hat but my team is really the A’s because I’m originally from Hawaii?” Barry, you can do better. Are you starting to lose your ability to speak like your predecessor (don’t worry you can never hope to reach his level of nonsense speak)?

I’m sure Obama is penning his resignation letter right now. The shame.
This is why modern Conservatism is no longer a serious political force. They have no ideas or principles upon which to stand, and instead engage in petty rancor. The more petty your rancor is, the more marginalized you will become. Nobody’s listening.

This is why Nomograph never was a serious poster. He has no ideas or principles on which to stand and instead engages in petty rancor. The more petty his rancor is, the more marginalized he becomes. He is a nobody, a self described shadow. Seeing as how ugly it is, the man who casts it must be hideous.

AdHominem says

This is why Nomograph never was a serious poster. He has no ideas or principles on which to stand and instead engages in petty rancor.

Nomo is more serious a poster on this forum, and has been around here longer, than you & your cohorts. Have you noticed that very few people engage you, abe & rayray? I'm guessing here, but it's probably because you have nothing worthwhile to say or respond to. Those of us who do respond are doing it because we're having fun - and we enjoy that ya'll take it personally and display your hurt feelings for the world to read.

The only nobodies here are ya'll. What used to be an informative, interesting forum is now a place hijacked by a few victims who post offensive stuff, probably because you have no other social outlet. Just look at how many people engage when you post - it would be easier if you exchanged phone numbers and called each other rather than to continue as you have.

IMHO, of course. Go ahead and attack me as you three have - it's all you bring to the table at this point.

elliemae says

t’s all you bring to the table at this point.

Wow ellie, apparently you can't tell that The Wizard of Nomo and I are just playing. He loves to point out "propaganda" and so when I see him use it I just throw it right back at him.

As for you I need not attack you because your calling others nobody's and getting all emotional over it is proof you can't handle the truth. It's all you bring to the table at this point.

Nomo, please give her a ninth place trophy, that should make her feel better. After that you can call the toilet cleaners "losers" again if you guys need another boost.

I'm emotional? sob! It takes more than you've got to make me emotional. But you're offensive at every turn, and have driven many people away.

You must be so proud, what with being a loser and all.

AdHominem says

It’s all you bring to the table at this point.

No, not really. I'm actually pretty cool, and have more than one thing to say over & over. And I can think for myself, rather than regurgitate what others have said.

elliemae says

IMHO, of course. Go ahead and attack me as you three have - it’s all you bring to the table at this point.

Nomo:

I just don’t get the AM talk radio crowd. Y’all are such drama queens."

Jeez, aint that the truth.

elliemae says

Go ahead and attack me as you have - it’s all you bring to the table at this point.

elliemae says

You must be so proud, what with being a loser and all.

You were saying?

elliemae says

you’re offensive at every turn,

elliemae says

It takes more than you’ve got to make me emotional.

You were saying?

Nomo didn't give you that trophy yet did he? Come on Wizard Nomo she really needs your consolation. You simply must talk about how toilet cleaners are the real losers and not the people who have spent three years living in a dream world on this posting board. Where is big brother when you need him to make the internets safe for ellimaes of the world?

AdHominem says

Where is big brother when you need him to make the internets safe for ellimaes of the world?

...and that explains you perfectly. In oh, so many ways.

elliemae says

and that explains you perfectly. In oh, so many ways.

Superiority, the epitome of self deception. Still didn't get your ninth place trophy huh? Come on Wizard Nomo, you're her only hope.

Back to the original point of this post: Obama made the claim on the radio at the White Sox opener that "he grew up a White Sox fan, being that I grew up on the South side of Chicago, you know, the White Sox have always been the blue collar team, whereas the Cubs appeal to the white collar." He was then asked: "Who was your favorite player growing up?" Stumped, Obama answered: "I actually grew up in Hawaii and was more of a Dodgers fan." There isn't a kid in the entire country that followed baseball growing up that couldn't immediately name his favorite player. But, we’re asked again to believe Obama is that exception.

Obviously caught in a LIE AGAIN, Obama stumbled, fumbled and fell … exposed again for the natural, easy liar that he is. Just another revelation as to the real character of this man.

I don't know what's more pathetic, the fact that anyone thinks this is important, or the fact that people are trying to make excuses for him. Just admit it. Obama's got a little Sarah Palin in him after all.

Back to the original point of this post: Obama made the claim on the radio at the White Sox opener that “he grew up a White Sox fan, being that I grew up on the South side of Chicago, you know, the White Sox have always been the blue collar team, whereas the Cubs appeal to the white collar.” He was then asked: “Who was your favorite player growing up?” Stumped, Obama answered: “I actually grew up in Hawaii and was more of a Dodgers fan.” There isn’t a kid in the entire country that followed baseball growing up that couldn’t immediately name his favorite player. But, we’re asked again to believe Obama is that exception.

Exactly. He's a complete faker and a serial liar. Yet there are those here who openly excuse and defend this dishonestly. What does that say about them?

Nomograph says

I think it’s clear that everyone finds the original point of the post to be so silly that’s its not even worth discussing.

Kind of funny you're in here posting a comment on such a "silly" subject.

AdHominem says

This is why Nomograph never was a serious poster. He has no ideas or principles on which to stand and instead engages in petty rancor. The more petty his rancor is, the more marginalized he becomes. He is a nobody, a self described shadow. Seeing as how ugly it is, the man who casts it must be hideous.

Bingo!

"He’s a complete faker and a serial liar."

It is clear who the serial liars, are.
...you dont fool anyone...not even the FNGs.

Ole rand is shaking her head-bones from that dark hole in the ground.

We just keep stepping on the cockroaches.
....not a bother. LOL