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Islam and Violence


               
2007 Sep 11, 1:35am   839,395 views  3,331 comments

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Originally from http://www.faithfreedom.org/

A Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins

Dear friends,

The tragic incidents of September 11 have shocked the world. It is unthinkable that anyone could be so full of hate as to commit such heinous acts and kill so many innocent people. We people of Muslim origin are as much shaken as the rest of the world and yet we find ourselves looked upon with suspicion and distrust by our neighbours and fellow citizens. We want to cry out and tell the world that we are not terrorists, and that those who perpetrate such despicable acts are murderers and not part of us. But, in reality, because of our Muslim origins we just cannot erase the stigma of Islamic Terrorism from our identity!

What most Muslims will say:

Islam would never support the killing of innocent people. Allah of the Holy Qur'an never advocated killings. This is all the work of a few misguided individuals at the fringes of society. The real Islam is sanctified from violence. We denounce all violence. Islam means peace. Islam means tolerance.

What knowledgeable Muslims should say:

That is what most Muslims think, but is it true? Does Islam really preach peace, tolerance and non-violence? The Muslims who perpetrate these crimes think differently. They believe that what they do is Jihad (holy war). They say that killing unbelievers is mandatory for every Muslim. They do not kill because they wish to break the laws of Islam but because they think this is what true Muslims should do. Those who blow-up their own bodies to kill more innocent people do so because they think they will be rewarded in Paradise. They hope to be blessed by Allah, eat celestial food, drink pure wine and enjoy the company of divine consorts. Are they completely misguided? Where did they get this distorted idea? How did they come to believe that killing innocent people pleases God? Or is it that we are misguided? Does really Islam preach violence? Does it call upon its believers to kill non-believers? We denounce those who commit acts of violence and call them extremists. But are they really extremists or are they following what the holy book, the Qur'an tells them to do? What does the Qur'an teach? Have we read the Qur'an? Do we know what kind of teachings are there? Let us go through some of them and take a closer look at what Allah says.

What the Qur'an Teaches Us:

We have used the most widely available English text of the Qur'an and readers are welcome to verify our quotes from the holy book. Please have an open mind and read through these verses again and again. The following quotes are taken from the most trusted Yusufali's translation of the Qur'an. The Qur'an tells us: not to make friendship with Jews and Christians (5:51), kill the disbelievers wherever we find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (9:5). The Qur'an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them (8:65). Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued (9:29). Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (9:3). Our God tells us to fight the unbelievers and He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them (9:14).

The Qur'an takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and relegates those who disbelieve in Islam to hell (5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (9:28), and orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (2:193). It says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (14:17). It asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter (5:34). And tells us that for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods (22:19-22) and that they not only will have disgrace in this life, but on the Day of Judgment He shall make them taste the Penalty of burning (Fire) (22:9). The Qur'an says that those who invoke a god other than Allah not only should meet punishment in this world but the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to them, and they will dwell therein in ignominy (25:68). For those who believe not in Allah and His Messenger, He has prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire! (48:13). Although we are asked to be compassionate amongst each other, we have to be harsh with unbelievers, our Christian, Jewish and Atheist neighbours and colleagues (48:29). As for him who does not believe in Islam, the Prophet announces with a stern command: Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin. (69:30-37) The Qur'an prohibits a Muslim from befriending a non-believer even if that non-believer is the father or the brother of that Muslim (9:23), (3:28). Our holy book asks us to be disobedient towards the disbelievers and their governments and strive against the unbelievers with great endeavour (25:52) and be stern with them because they belong to Hell (66:9). The holy Prophet prescribes fighting for us and tells us that it is good for us even if we dislike it (2:216). Then he advises us to strike off the heads of the disbelievers; and after making a wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives (47:4). Our God has promised to instil terror into the hearts of the unbelievers and has ordered us to smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them (8:12). He also assures us that when we kill in his name it is not us who slay them but Allah, in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself (8:17). He orders us to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies (8:60). He has made the Jihad mandatory and warns us that Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place (9:39). Allah speaks to our Holy Prophet and says O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern against them. Their abode is Hell - an evil refuge indeed (9:73).

He promises us that in the fight for His cause whether we slay or are slain we return to the garden of Paradise (9:111). In Paradise he will wed us with Houris (celestial virgins) pure beautiful ones (56:54), and unite us with large-eyed beautiful ones while we recline on our thrones set in lines (56:20). There we are promised to eat and drink pleasantly for what we did (56:19). He also promises boys like hidden pearls (56:24) and youth never altering in age like scattered pearls (for those who have paedophiliac inclinations) (76:19). As you see, Allah has promised all sorts or rewards, gluttony and unlimited sex to Muslim men who kill unbelievers in his name. We will be admitted to Paradise where we shall find goodly things, beautiful ones, pure ones confined to the pavilions that man has not touched them before nor jinni (56:67-71).In the West we enjoy freedom of belief but we are not supposed to give such freedom to anyone else because it is written If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good) (3:85). And He orders us to fight them on until there is no more tumult and faith in Allah is practiced everywhere (8:39). As for women the book of Allah says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (4:34). It advises to take a green branch and beat your wife, because a green branch is more flexible and hurts more. (38:44). It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (66:10). It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (2:228). It not only denies the women's equal right to their inheritance (4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the courts of law (2:282). This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness. Our Holy Prophet allows us to marry up to four wives and he licensed us to sleep with our slave maids and as many 'captive' women as we may have (4:3) even if those women are already married. He himself did just that. This is why anytime a Muslim army subdues another nation, they call them kafir and allow themselves to rape their women. Pakistani soldiers allegedly raped up to 250,000 Bengali women in 1971 after they massacred 3,000,000 unarmed civilians when their religious leader decreed that Bangladeshis are un-Islamic. This is why the prison guards in Islamic regime of Iran rape the women that in their opinion are apostates prior to killing them, as they believe a virgin will not go to Hell.

Dear fellow Muslims:Is this the Islam you believe in? Is this your Most Merciful, Most Compassionate Allah whom you worship daily? Could Allah incite you to kill other peoples? Please understand that there is no terrorist gene - but there could be a terrorist mindset. That mindset finds its most fertile ground in the tenets of Islam. Denying it, and presenting Islam to the lay public as a religion of peace similar to Buddhism, is to suppress the truth. The history of Islam between the 7th and 14th centuries is riddled with violence, fratricide and wars of aggression, starting right from the death of the Prophet and during the so-called 'pure' or orthodox caliphate. And Muhammad himself hoisted the standard of killing, looting, massacres and bloodshed. How can we deny the entire history? The behaviour of our Holy Prophet as recorded in authentic Islamic sources is quite questionable from a modern viewpoint. The Prophet was a charismatic man but he had few virtues. Imitating him in all aspects of life (following the Sunnah) is both impossible and dangerous in the 21st century. Why are we so helplessly in denial over this simple issue? When the Prophet was in Mecca and he was still not powerful enough he called for tolerance. He said To you be your religion, and to me my religion (109:6). This famous quote is often misused to prove that the general principle of Qur'an is tolerance. He advised his follower to speak good to their enemies (2: 83), exhorted them to be patient (20:103) and said that there is no compulsion in religion (2:256). But that all changed drastically when he came to power. Then killing and slaying unbelievers with harshness and without mercy was justified in innumerable verses. The verses quoted to prove Islam's tolerance ignore many other verses that bear no trace of tolerance or forgiveness. Where is tolerance in this well-known verse Alarzu Lillah, Walhukmu Lillah. (The Earth belongs to Allah and thus only Allah's rule should prevail all over the earth.).Is it normal that a book revealed by God should have so many serious contradictions? The Prophet himself set the example of unleashing violence by invading the Jewish settlements, breaking treaties he had signed with them and banishing some of them after confiscating their belongings, massacring others and taking their wives and children as slaves. He inspected the youngsters and massacred all those who had pubic hair along with the men. Those who were younger he kept as slaves. He distributed the women captured in his raids among his soldiers keeping the prettiest for himself (33:50). He made sexual advances on Safiyah, a Jewish girl on the same day he captured her town Kheibar and killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives. Reyhana was another Jewish girl of Bani Quriza whom he used as a sex slave after killing all her male relatives. In the last ten years of his life he accumulated two scores of wives, concubines and sex slaves including the 9 year old Ayesha. These are not stories but records from authentic Islamic history and the Hadiths. It can be argued that this kind of behaviour was not unknown or unusual for the conquerors and leaders of the mediaeval world but these are not the activities befitting of a peaceful saint and certainly not someone who claimed to be the Mercy of God for all creation. There were known assassinations of adversaries during the Prophet's time, which he had knowledge of and had supported. Among them there was a 120 year old man, Abu 'Afak whose only crime was to compose a lyric satirical of the Prophet. (by Ibn Sa'd Kitab al Tabaqat al Kabir, Volume 2, page 32) Then when a poetess, a mother of 5 small children 'Asma' Bint Marwan wrote a poetry cursing the Arabs for letting Muhammad assassinate an old man, our Holy Prophet ordered her to be assassinated too in the middle of the night while her youngest child was suckling from her breast. (Sirat Rasul Allah (A. Guillaume's translation The Life of Muhammad) page 675, 676).The Prophet did develop a 'Robin Hood' image that justified raiding merchant caravans attacking cities and towns, killing people and looting their belongings in the name of social justice. Usama Bin Laden is also trying to create the same image. But Robin Hood didn't claim to be a prophet or a pacifist nor did he care for apologist arguments. He did not massacre innocent people indiscriminately nor did he profit by reducing free people to slaves and then trading them. With the known and documented violent legacy of Islam, how can we suddenly rediscover it as a religion of peace in the free world in the 21st century? Isn't this the perpetuation of a lie by a few ambitious leaders in order to gain political control of the huge and ignorant Muslim population? They are creating a polished version of Islam by completely ignoring history. They are propagating the same old dogma for simple believing people in a crisp new modern package. Their aim: to gain political power in today's high-tension world. They want to use the confrontational power of the original Islam to catalyse new conflicts and control new circles of power.

Dear conscientious Muslims, please question yourselves. Isn't this compulsive following of a man who lived 1400 years ago leading us to doom in a changing world? Do the followers of any other religion follow one man in such an all-encompassing way? Who are we deceiving, them or ourselves? Dear brothers and sisters, see how our Umma (people) has sunk into poverty and how it lags behind the rest of the world. Isn't it because we are following a religion that is outdated and impractical? In this crucial moment of history, when a great catastrophe has befallen us and a much bigger one is lying ahead, should not we wake up from our 1400 years of slumber and see where things have gone wrong? Hatred has filled the air and the world is bracing itself for its doomsday. Should we not ask ourselves whether we have contributed, wittingly or unwittingly, to this tragedy and whether we can stop the great disaster from happening?Unfortunately the answer to the first question is yes. Yes we have contributed to the rise of fundamentalism by merely claiming Islam is a religion of peace, by simply being a Muslim and by saying our shahada (testimony that Allah is the only God and Muhammad is his messenger). By our shahada we have recognized Muhammad as a true messenger of God and his book as the words of God. But as you saw above those words are anything but from God. They call for killing, they are prescriptions for hate and they foment intolerance. And when the ignorant among us read those hate-laden verses, they act on them and the result is the infamous September 11, human bombs in Israel, massacres in East Timor and Bangladesh, kidnappings and killings in the Philippines, slavery in the Sudan, honour killings in Pakistan and Jordan, torture in Iran, stoning and maiming in Afghanistan and Iran, violence in Algeria, terrorism in Palestine and misery and death in every Islamic country. We are responsible because we endorse Islam and hail it as a religion of God. And we are as guilty as those who put into practice what the Qur'an preaches - and ironically we are the main victims too. If we are not terrorists, if we love peace, if we cried with the rest of the word for what happened in New York, then why are we supporting the Qur'an that preaches killing, that advocates holy war, that calls for the murder of non-Muslims? It is not the extremists who have misunderstood Islam. They do literally what the Qur'an asks them to do. It is we who misunderstand Islam. We are the ones who are confused. We are the ones who wrongly assume that Islam is the religion of peace. Islam is not a religion of peace. In its so-called pure form it can very well be interpreted as a doctrine of hate. Terrorists are doing just that and we the intellectual apologists of Islam are justifying it. We can stop this madness. Yes, we can avert the disaster that is hovering over our heads. Yes, we can denounce the doctrines that promote hate. Yes, we can embrace the rest of humanity with love. Yes, we can become part of a united world, members of one human family, flowers of one garden. We can dump the claim of infallibility of our Book, and the questionable legacy of our Prophet.Dear friends, there is no time to waste. Let us put an end to this lie. Let us not fool ourselves. Islam is not a religion of peace, of tolerance, of equality or of unity of humankind. Let us read the Qur'an. Let us face the truth even if it is painful. As long as we keep this lie alive, as long as we hide our head in the sands of Arabia we are feeding terrorism. As long as you and I keep calling Qur'an the unchangeable book of God, we cannot blame those who follow the teachings therein. As long as we pay our Khums and Zakat our money goes to promote Islamic expansionism and that means terrorism, Jihad and war. Islam divides the world in two. Darul Harb (land of war) and Darul Islam (land of Islam). Darul Harb is the land of the infidels, Muslims are required to infiltrate those lands, proselytise and procreate until their numbers increase and then start the war and fight and kill the people and impose the religion of Islam on them and convert that land into Darul Islam. In all fairness we denounce this betrayal. This is abuse of the trust. How can we make war in the countries that have sheltered us? How can we kill those who have befriended us? Yet willingly or unwillingly we have become pawns in this Islamic Imperialism. Let us see what great Islamic scholars have had to say in this respect.Dr. M. Khan the translator of Sahih Bukhari and the Qur'an into English wrote: Allah revealed in Sura Bara'at (Repentance, IX) the order to discard (all) obligations (covenants, etc), and commanded the Muslims to fight against all the Pagans as well as against the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) if they do not embrace Islam, till they pay the Jizia (a tax levied on the Jews and Christians) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued (as it is revealed in 9:29). So the Muslims were not permitted to abandon the fighting against them (Pagans, Jews and Christians) and to reconcile with them and to suspend hostilities against them for an unlimited period while they are strong and have the ability to fight against them. So at first the fighting was forbidden, then it was permitted, and after that it was made obligatory [Introduction to English translation of Sahih Bukhari, p.xxiv.] Dr. Sobhy as-Saleh, a contemporary Islamic academician quoted Imam Suyuti the author of Itqan Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an who wrote: The command to fight the infidels was delayed until the Muslims become strong, but when they were weak they were commanded to endure and be patient. [ Sobhy as_Saleh, Mabaheth Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an, Dar al-'Ilm Lel-Malayeen, Beirut, 1983, p. 269.]Dr. Sobhy, in a footnote, commends the opinion of a scholar named Zarkashi who said: Allah the most high and wise revealed to Mohammad in his weak condition what suited the situation, because of his mercy to him and his followers. For if He gave them the command to fight while they were weak it would have been embarrassing and most difficult, but when the most high made Islam victorious He commanded him with what suited the situation, that is asking the people of the Book to become Muslims or to pay the levied tax, and the infidels to become Muslims or face death. These two options, to fight or to have peace return according to the strength or the weakness of the Muslims. [ibid p. 270]Other Islamic scholars (Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi, Ga'far ar-Razi, Rabi' Ibn 'Ons, 'Abil-'Aliyah, Abd ar-Rahman Ibn Zayd Ibn 'Aslam, etc.) agree that the verse Slay the idolaters wherever you find them (9:5) cancelled those few earlier verses that called for tolerance in the Qur'an and were revealed when Islam was weak. Can you still say that Islam is the religion of peace? We propose a solution.

We know too well that it is not easy to denounce our faith because it means denouncing a part of ourselves. We are a group of freethinkers and humanists with Islamic roots. Discovering the truth and leaving the religion of our fathers and forefathers was a painful experience. But after learning what Islam stands for we had no choice but to leave it. After becoming familiar with the Qur'an the choice became clear: It is either Islam or humanity. If Islam thrives, then humanity will die. We decided to side with humanity. Culturally we are still Muslims but we no longer believe in Islam as the true religion of God. We are humanists. We love humanity. We work for the unity of humankind. We work for equality between men and women. We strive for the secularisation of Islamic countries, for democracy and freedom of thought, belief and expression. We decided to live no longer in self-deception but to embrace humanity, and to enter into the new millennium hand in hand with people of other cultures and beliefs in amity and in peace.We denounce the violence that is eulogized in the Qur'an as holy war (Jihad). We condemn killing in the name of God. We believe in the sanctity of human life, not in the inviolability of beliefs and religions. We invite you to join us and the rest of humanity and become part of the family of humankind - in love, camaraderie and peace.

Arabic translation الترجمة العربية

See http://www.centerforinquiry.net/isis and http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ for more.

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3207   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 5, 5:10pm  

The UK Police waited for Very Special "Authorized Firearms Officers" to arrive, who then proceeded to simply shoot into the mass of people keeping one assailant from entering the main area. The Police had already been informed there was only one perp in multiple calls.

Any other police force, once they assessed the situation, simply would have charged the group by the door and knocked everybody to the floor and cuff them once they had a few members present. Figure out who is who after they've been restrained

Can't wait to find out the Police names, this being Manchester. Bet it's not Oakes and Elmwood.


3208   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 5, 5:16pm  

I'll never forget last year when the British Muslim Cop told the Muslims Rioting to put "Any Weapons back in the Mosque".

All the Muslims in Europe know where the weapons are, and when French and Belgian police raided a few mosques the handful of times they did, they found scores of AKs, 10k's of rounds, and even grenades and I believe I heard at least one RPG.

if the British want to revolt, they might think of breaking into a Mosque and searching the basement.
3209   Patrick   2025 Oct 5, 5:59pm  

Every mosque in the West is a foreign military base.
3210   Blue   2025 Oct 5, 7:36pm  

Europe is done with Jihadists

https://youtu.be/0Bh6HBiebfY
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3211   Blue   2025 Oct 5, 8:13pm  

https://youtu.be/vQe9uatZ9eE
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Is this really London in 2025? We just arrived here and we can't believe this is London, England. This is our first time in London and we can say with certainty that the nicer parts of the UK are in the countryside.
3214   Patrick   2025 Oct 12, 6:04pm  

https://babylonbee.com/news/mohammed-upset-as-democrats-keep-calling-islam-a-religion-of-peace




HELL — The founder of Islam expressed continued frustration with Democrats on Wednesday, calling them out for referring to Islam as a "religion of peace."

"I literally created this religion by murdering people and threatening to murder people," said an exasperated Mohammed. "How do I not get any credit for all that violence? Sometimes, it almost feels like I killed all those people for nothing. It's so disheartening."

Mohammed praised the continued work of his followers on earth, who have worked tirelessly to set the record straight. "My followers have continued murdering and raping tens of thousands of people every year. I just don't know how the liberals aren't getting it," sighed Mohammed. "Like, what do they want from us to prove we're not a religion of peace? Do they want us to fly planes into buildings? Did it. Film ourselves stoning women? Done. Share videos of us beheading Christians as ISIS murders and rapes its way across the world? Check. How about go into Israel, commit the most sickening acts of violence you can imagine, film ourselves, and share the videos across the world? WE DID. What more do you want from us to prove we aren't peaceful?"

Thousands of Muslims across the globe used the anniversary of October 7th to try to help clear up the confusion. "Mohammed was pretty clear, guys. How many times do we have to say 'We want to kill you' before you'll believe us?" said New York City resident Amir Ibrahim. "Look, I'd rather be home relaxing right now, but instead I have to be out here in a Hamas headband, celebrating mass murder, shouting 'Die infidel, die' - just so that you people will get it."
3218   HeadSet   2025 Oct 20, 7:14pm  

The_Deplorable says





Question is, how did she get elected when she is from a district full of Muslims who typically would not allow a woman to be in a position of power?
3220   Patrick   2025 Oct 20, 9:38pm  

White leftist women elected her.
3222   gabbar   2025 Oct 26, 6:51am  

Mehdi Hassan (parents migrated to UK from India) is a naturalized US citizen
3223   gabbar   2025 Oct 26, 1:27pm  

Which type of God is Allah?

“People usually have two very different Gods in mind when they say the word ‘God’. One God is the cosmic mystery. We don’t understand why there is something rather than nothing, why the Big Bang happened, what human consciousness is. There are many things we don’t understand about the world and some people choose to call these mysteries by the name “God’. God is the reason there is something rather than nothing. God is behind human consciousness. The most characteristic thing about this God is we know absolutely nothing about him / her / it / they. There is nothing concrete. It’s a mystery. This is the God we talk about late at night in the desert as we sit around the camp fire and think about the meaning of life. That’s one meaning of God. I have no problem with this version of God, in fact I like it very much.

Then there is another God which is the petty law giver. The characteristic of this God is we know a lot of concrete things about that God. We know what he thinks about female dress code, we know what he think about sexuality, we know what he feels about food, about politics. This is the God people talk about when they stand around while burning a heretic. We will burn you because you did something that God doesn’t like. It’s like a magic trick. How do you know God exists? Well, the Big Bang and human consciousness and science can’t explain this and that, and then like a magician swapping one card for another, they will take out the mystery God and replace it with the petty law giver and you end up with something strange like because we don’t understand the Big Bang, women must dress with long sleeves and men shouldn’t have sex together. What’s the connection? How did you get from here to there?”

- Yuval Noah Harari
3224   Patrick   2025 Oct 26, 1:38pm  

Posted this before, but I laughed again:



3225   Blue   2025 Oct 26, 3:02pm  

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/zohran-mamdani-slams-trump-republican-225933293.html
“I think Islamophobia is something that is endemic to politics across this country,” Mamdani said.

He is inline with all Jihadists who use victim cards while robbing and erasing Khaffirs.
3226   Patrick   2025 Oct 26, 7:42pm  

gabbar says

women must dress with long sleeves and men shouldn’t have sex together


Harari is gay, and that's why he threw the anti-sodomy rule in there.

There are actually very good reasons for that rule, as the spread of AIDS illustrated perfectly.
3227   gabbar   2025 Oct 27, 5:16am  

Blue says


He is inline with all Jihadists who use victim cards while robbing and erasing Khaffirs.


This generally applies to all Indian Muslims. Mamdani's parents are from India. Maybe our country wants to beat UK at stupidity by electing Sadiq Khan of New York.
3228   gabbar   2025 Oct 27, 5:22am  

Patrick says

Harari is gay, and that's why he threw the anti-sodomy rule in there. There are actually very good reasons for that rule, as the spread of AIDS illustrated perfectly.


He is. I agree on both points.
3229   stereotomy   2025 Oct 27, 7:12am  

gabbar says

he most characteristic thing about this God is we know absolutely nothing about him / her / it / they. There is nothing concrete. It’s a mystery. This is the God we talk about late at night in the desert as we sit around the camp fire and think about the meaning of life. That’s one meaning of God. I have no problem with this version of God, in fact I like it very much.

Then there is another God which is the petty law giver.

^^^^
This

I conducted a thought experiment once. I imagined if a human had the powers of the petty god - omisicience, etc. If people found out their was such a person, that person woud be hunted down and ripped to pieces. If the petty god's powers in a human are an abomination, then such a conception of God is likewise an abomination.

God is too big to understand. That is my big problem with all organized religion. Knowing what we know now about the size, scale, and nature of the universe and its history, how can we reconcile these primitive conceptions of creation with the reality of that creation? Fucking crickets from the churchmen. I think the Gnostics had it right - there was a true God of Creation, and then Yaldabaoth, the demiurge, stepped in to take credit for it all. This is the petty god that institutional religion proclaims as the one true god, but who is in fact a fraud.
3233   gabbar   2025 Oct 28, 4:07am  

gabbar says

This is the God people talk about when they stand around while burning a heretic.


There is a common theme when Muslims kill another person (with gun or knife) or animal, the chant of Allah O Akbar.
3234   Patrick   2025 Oct 28, 7:31am  

https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1983122953056538999


In the early hours of this morning multiple people including a child were stabbed in Uxbridge, London

Sadly one man has lost his life

This is how people are living in London now

Britain didn't used to be like this

Kids are living with this every day


https://x.com/PatrickChristys/status/1983170484377444643


3237   Blue   2025 Oct 28, 8:06am  

Patrick says





Most shops in Christmas markets are closed as the security costs became very high. Islamophobia is a hoax only to suppress the truth Kafirphobia which is real.
This is part of Jihadists erasing all the Kafirs.
3238   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 29, 4:20am  

@infantrydort
Nah, you guys know what? I’m just gonna come out and say it. And when I’m done saying it, tell me if it’s “blatant Islamophobia” or just…. you know… reality.

Let me explain to you some of the things I witnessed with my very own eyes in multiple Muslim countries. This will not be for the weak or faint of heart.

1. They didn’t just massacre one another in Baghdad, they chopped each other up into little pieces and stuffed them in underground vats. SPC Plocica was the only one with a strong enough stomach to fish the pieces out with a coat hanger so we could confirm the report. Don’t worry
@Primz94933160
was there too as a witness. Rib cages with rotted flesh, pieces of legs with shoes attached, arms, hands, you name it. It was the most disgusting thing I’ve seen with my two eyes.

2. The obsession with having sex with children or feminine men. The saying over there was women are for breeding and men are for fun. We had to protect our fairer looking male Soldiers from being molested CONSTANTLY. But that isn’t the worst part. I once stumbled upon an Afghan colonel r*ping his 11 year old assistant, I heard the unholy noises emanating from his tent on our FOB. When I moved to interdict I was stopped for fear of a Green on Blue incident. And then we were all “educated” on the fact that this was CULTURALLY ACCEPTABLE FOR THEM TO DO. It was as normal as breathing.

3. Women are less than nothing to them. I would always ask how many children elders had for small talk. They could have 10 kids. 7 daughters and 3 sons. What will they tell you? They have 3 sons. I watched a man carrying his dead daughter in his arms to my FOB. She died due to a malfunctioned bomb we dropped. That didn’t matter to him. He dropped her on the ground with a stone cold face and demanded we pay him. She was f*****g NOTHING to him. He left the body with us and walked away counting his money.

4. Some of them have sex with animals. Ask me if I saw a man from COP 763 in east Baghdad mount a donkey in the middle of the night through a RAID FLIR camera. Because the answer will be yes.

5. They did heinous things in battle. Suicide bombings. Using their own wives as human shields. Using children as shields. Shooting from mosques. Spitting at our working dogs… or worse.

This all sounds crazy right? And I bet my comment section will flow with similar horror stories. It almost sounds like I’m making it up huh? I wish I was. I really do.

I know good Muslims in America. One of them is among my closest friends. But he’s passed through the American filter…HEAVILY. I can safely say he is literally one of us.

My question for you is, how are you not “Islamophobic”? My assessment comes from 4 total years immersed in multiple Islamic nations.

I wish I could say I’m sorry that I’m an inconvenient truth teller against your agenda.

But I’m not sorry at all. You must open your eyes. You MUST see this is a problem. Don’t you? How can you not?

https://x.com/infantrydort/status/1939044438128328820
3239   Patrick   2025 Oct 29, 2:00pm  

From an email conversation with a friend:


Another thing changed as well: it used to be assumed that all the passengers had a strong personal interest in surviving the flight.

9/11 proved that to be false for certain fanatical Muslims.

> I read somewhere that you could pack a gun in your carry on in the 1950s and no one thought it was a big deal but that changed with hijacking in the 70s
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2025, at 10:33 AM, Patrick Killelea wrote:
>> How is it not an obvious and criminal abuse of power to put political dissidents on no-fly lists?
>>
>> It used to be possible to fly with no ID at all, just a paper ticket.
>>
>>> > Nick Fuentes being on the no-fly list reminds me of Tulsi Gabbard. Did you read about she had 2 or 3 federal marshals tailing her on every flight she took for some period of time, that cost 6 or 7 figure amount of money?
3240   gabbar   2025 Oct 29, 6:52pm  

Patrick says


Did you read about she had 2 or 3 federal marshals tailing her on every flight she took for some period of time, that cost 6 or 7 figure amount of money?


Liberals become passively or actively violent once they identify you as an independent or conservative. Gotta watch one's back.

Having said that, its fun to give it back to them.
3241   Patrick   2025 Oct 31, 9:04am  

https://www.jpost.com/international/islamic-terrorism/article-872307


FBI thwarted terror attack in Michigan planned for Halloween weekend, Kash Patel says

"Through swift action and close coordination with our local partners, a potential act of terror was stopped before it could unfold," Patel said in a statement to Fox News. "The vigilance of this FBI prevented what could have been a tragic attack — and thanks to their dedication, Michigan will have a safe and happy Halloween."

FBI foils terror attack in Dearborn

The Dearborn Police Department stated that it was aware that the FBI conducted operations in the area on Friday.


Dearborn, center of Islam in the US.
3242   Patrick   2025 Oct 31, 12:58pm  

https://x.com/xwanyex/status/1982600173202092254


You run a thought experiment where Muslims are 25% of the population or 40% of the population or 60% of the population and you very quickly realize that these are nightmare scenarios in which the country as we know it ceases to exist.

So why in the world would you say, “yeaaaaaah, but I bet we could still survive if it were only 8% or 4%. Let’s squeeze in whatever we can until it almost becomes an existential problem and then no more than that.”

That’s absurd. Why would you ever think that way? It makes no sense. Why would you take that chance at all? For what? For what great benefit to the people who are already here?
3243   gabbar   2025 Oct 31, 6:43pm  

Patrick says

For what great benefit to the people who are already here?


The benefit to the politicians and the rich is that it makes the society weak and therefore more exploitable.

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