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Islam and Violence


               
2007 Sep 11, 1:35am   846,684 views  3,381 comments

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Originally from http://www.faithfreedom.org/

A Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins

Dear friends,

The tragic incidents of September 11 have shocked the world. It is unthinkable that anyone could be so full of hate as to commit such heinous acts and kill so many innocent people. We people of Muslim origin are as much shaken as the rest of the world and yet we find ourselves looked upon with suspicion and distrust by our neighbours and fellow citizens. We want to cry out and tell the world that we are not terrorists, and that those who perpetrate such despicable acts are murderers and not part of us. But, in reality, because of our Muslim origins we just cannot erase the stigma of Islamic Terrorism from our identity!

What most Muslims will say:

Islam would never support the killing of innocent people. Allah of the Holy Qur'an never advocated killings. This is all the work of a few misguided individuals at the fringes of society. The real Islam is sanctified from violence. We denounce all violence. Islam means peace. Islam means tolerance.

What knowledgeable Muslims should say:

That is what most Muslims think, but is it true? Does Islam really preach peace, tolerance and non-violence? The Muslims who perpetrate these crimes think differently. They believe that what they do is Jihad (holy war). They say that killing unbelievers is mandatory for every Muslim. They do not kill because they wish to break the laws of Islam but because they think this is what true Muslims should do. Those who blow-up their own bodies to kill more innocent people do so because they think they will be rewarded in Paradise. They hope to be blessed by Allah, eat celestial food, drink pure wine and enjoy the company of divine consorts. Are they completely misguided? Where did they get this distorted idea? How did they come to believe that killing innocent people pleases God? Or is it that we are misguided? Does really Islam preach violence? Does it call upon its believers to kill non-believers? We denounce those who commit acts of violence and call them extremists. But are they really extremists or are they following what the holy book, the Qur'an tells them to do? What does the Qur'an teach? Have we read the Qur'an? Do we know what kind of teachings are there? Let us go through some of them and take a closer look at what Allah says.

What the Qur'an Teaches Us:

We have used the most widely available English text of the Qur'an and readers are welcome to verify our quotes from the holy book. Please have an open mind and read through these verses again and again. The following quotes are taken from the most trusted Yusufali's translation of the Qur'an. The Qur'an tells us: not to make friendship with Jews and Christians (5:51), kill the disbelievers wherever we find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (9:5). The Qur'an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them (8:65). Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued (9:29). Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (9:3). Our God tells us to fight the unbelievers and He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them (9:14).

The Qur'an takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and relegates those who disbelieve in Islam to hell (5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (9:28), and orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (2:193). It says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (14:17). It asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter (5:34). And tells us that for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods (22:19-22) and that they not only will have disgrace in this life, but on the Day of Judgment He shall make them taste the Penalty of burning (Fire) (22:9). The Qur'an says that those who invoke a god other than Allah not only should meet punishment in this world but the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to them, and they will dwell therein in ignominy (25:68). For those who believe not in Allah and His Messenger, He has prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire! (48:13). Although we are asked to be compassionate amongst each other, we have to be harsh with unbelievers, our Christian, Jewish and Atheist neighbours and colleagues (48:29). As for him who does not believe in Islam, the Prophet announces with a stern command: Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin. (69:30-37) The Qur'an prohibits a Muslim from befriending a non-believer even if that non-believer is the father or the brother of that Muslim (9:23), (3:28). Our holy book asks us to be disobedient towards the disbelievers and their governments and strive against the unbelievers with great endeavour (25:52) and be stern with them because they belong to Hell (66:9). The holy Prophet prescribes fighting for us and tells us that it is good for us even if we dislike it (2:216). Then he advises us to strike off the heads of the disbelievers; and after making a wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives (47:4). Our God has promised to instil terror into the hearts of the unbelievers and has ordered us to smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them (8:12). He also assures us that when we kill in his name it is not us who slay them but Allah, in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself (8:17). He orders us to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies (8:60). He has made the Jihad mandatory and warns us that Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place (9:39). Allah speaks to our Holy Prophet and says O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern against them. Their abode is Hell - an evil refuge indeed (9:73).

He promises us that in the fight for His cause whether we slay or are slain we return to the garden of Paradise (9:111). In Paradise he will wed us with Houris (celestial virgins) pure beautiful ones (56:54), and unite us with large-eyed beautiful ones while we recline on our thrones set in lines (56:20). There we are promised to eat and drink pleasantly for what we did (56:19). He also promises boys like hidden pearls (56:24) and youth never altering in age like scattered pearls (for those who have paedophiliac inclinations) (76:19). As you see, Allah has promised all sorts or rewards, gluttony and unlimited sex to Muslim men who kill unbelievers in his name. We will be admitted to Paradise where we shall find goodly things, beautiful ones, pure ones confined to the pavilions that man has not touched them before nor jinni (56:67-71).In the West we enjoy freedom of belief but we are not supposed to give such freedom to anyone else because it is written If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good) (3:85). And He orders us to fight them on until there is no more tumult and faith in Allah is practiced everywhere (8:39). As for women the book of Allah says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (4:34). It advises to take a green branch and beat your wife, because a green branch is more flexible and hurts more. (38:44). It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (66:10). It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (2:228). It not only denies the women's equal right to their inheritance (4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the courts of law (2:282). This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness. Our Holy Prophet allows us to marry up to four wives and he licensed us to sleep with our slave maids and as many 'captive' women as we may have (4:3) even if those women are already married. He himself did just that. This is why anytime a Muslim army subdues another nation, they call them kafir and allow themselves to rape their women. Pakistani soldiers allegedly raped up to 250,000 Bengali women in 1971 after they massacred 3,000,000 unarmed civilians when their religious leader decreed that Bangladeshis are un-Islamic. This is why the prison guards in Islamic regime of Iran rape the women that in their opinion are apostates prior to killing them, as they believe a virgin will not go to Hell.

Dear fellow Muslims:Is this the Islam you believe in? Is this your Most Merciful, Most Compassionate Allah whom you worship daily? Could Allah incite you to kill other peoples? Please understand that there is no terrorist gene - but there could be a terrorist mindset. That mindset finds its most fertile ground in the tenets of Islam. Denying it, and presenting Islam to the lay public as a religion of peace similar to Buddhism, is to suppress the truth. The history of Islam between the 7th and 14th centuries is riddled with violence, fratricide and wars of aggression, starting right from the death of the Prophet and during the so-called 'pure' or orthodox caliphate. And Muhammad himself hoisted the standard of killing, looting, massacres and bloodshed. How can we deny the entire history? The behaviour of our Holy Prophet as recorded in authentic Islamic sources is quite questionable from a modern viewpoint. The Prophet was a charismatic man but he had few virtues. Imitating him in all aspects of life (following the Sunnah) is both impossible and dangerous in the 21st century. Why are we so helplessly in denial over this simple issue? When the Prophet was in Mecca and he was still not powerful enough he called for tolerance. He said To you be your religion, and to me my religion (109:6). This famous quote is often misused to prove that the general principle of Qur'an is tolerance. He advised his follower to speak good to their enemies (2: 83), exhorted them to be patient (20:103) and said that there is no compulsion in religion (2:256). But that all changed drastically when he came to power. Then killing and slaying unbelievers with harshness and without mercy was justified in innumerable verses. The verses quoted to prove Islam's tolerance ignore many other verses that bear no trace of tolerance or forgiveness. Where is tolerance in this well-known verse Alarzu Lillah, Walhukmu Lillah. (The Earth belongs to Allah and thus only Allah's rule should prevail all over the earth.).Is it normal that a book revealed by God should have so many serious contradictions? The Prophet himself set the example of unleashing violence by invading the Jewish settlements, breaking treaties he had signed with them and banishing some of them after confiscating their belongings, massacring others and taking their wives and children as slaves. He inspected the youngsters and massacred all those who had pubic hair along with the men. Those who were younger he kept as slaves. He distributed the women captured in his raids among his soldiers keeping the prettiest for himself (33:50). He made sexual advances on Safiyah, a Jewish girl on the same day he captured her town Kheibar and killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives. Reyhana was another Jewish girl of Bani Quriza whom he used as a sex slave after killing all her male relatives. In the last ten years of his life he accumulated two scores of wives, concubines and sex slaves including the 9 year old Ayesha. These are not stories but records from authentic Islamic history and the Hadiths. It can be argued that this kind of behaviour was not unknown or unusual for the conquerors and leaders of the mediaeval world but these are not the activities befitting of a peaceful saint and certainly not someone who claimed to be the Mercy of God for all creation. There were known assassinations of adversaries during the Prophet's time, which he had knowledge of and had supported. Among them there was a 120 year old man, Abu 'Afak whose only crime was to compose a lyric satirical of the Prophet. (by Ibn Sa'd Kitab al Tabaqat al Kabir, Volume 2, page 32) Then when a poetess, a mother of 5 small children 'Asma' Bint Marwan wrote a poetry cursing the Arabs for letting Muhammad assassinate an old man, our Holy Prophet ordered her to be assassinated too in the middle of the night while her youngest child was suckling from her breast. (Sirat Rasul Allah (A. Guillaume's translation The Life of Muhammad) page 675, 676).The Prophet did develop a 'Robin Hood' image that justified raiding merchant caravans attacking cities and towns, killing people and looting their belongings in the name of social justice. Usama Bin Laden is also trying to create the same image. But Robin Hood didn't claim to be a prophet or a pacifist nor did he care for apologist arguments. He did not massacre innocent people indiscriminately nor did he profit by reducing free people to slaves and then trading them. With the known and documented violent legacy of Islam, how can we suddenly rediscover it as a religion of peace in the free world in the 21st century? Isn't this the perpetuation of a lie by a few ambitious leaders in order to gain political control of the huge and ignorant Muslim population? They are creating a polished version of Islam by completely ignoring history. They are propagating the same old dogma for simple believing people in a crisp new modern package. Their aim: to gain political power in today's high-tension world. They want to use the confrontational power of the original Islam to catalyse new conflicts and control new circles of power.

Dear conscientious Muslims, please question yourselves. Isn't this compulsive following of a man who lived 1400 years ago leading us to doom in a changing world? Do the followers of any other religion follow one man in such an all-encompassing way? Who are we deceiving, them or ourselves? Dear brothers and sisters, see how our Umma (people) has sunk into poverty and how it lags behind the rest of the world. Isn't it because we are following a religion that is outdated and impractical? In this crucial moment of history, when a great catastrophe has befallen us and a much bigger one is lying ahead, should not we wake up from our 1400 years of slumber and see where things have gone wrong? Hatred has filled the air and the world is bracing itself for its doomsday. Should we not ask ourselves whether we have contributed, wittingly or unwittingly, to this tragedy and whether we can stop the great disaster from happening?Unfortunately the answer to the first question is yes. Yes we have contributed to the rise of fundamentalism by merely claiming Islam is a religion of peace, by simply being a Muslim and by saying our shahada (testimony that Allah is the only God and Muhammad is his messenger). By our shahada we have recognized Muhammad as a true messenger of God and his book as the words of God. But as you saw above those words are anything but from God. They call for killing, they are prescriptions for hate and they foment intolerance. And when the ignorant among us read those hate-laden verses, they act on them and the result is the infamous September 11, human bombs in Israel, massacres in East Timor and Bangladesh, kidnappings and killings in the Philippines, slavery in the Sudan, honour killings in Pakistan and Jordan, torture in Iran, stoning and maiming in Afghanistan and Iran, violence in Algeria, terrorism in Palestine and misery and death in every Islamic country. We are responsible because we endorse Islam and hail it as a religion of God. And we are as guilty as those who put into practice what the Qur'an preaches - and ironically we are the main victims too. If we are not terrorists, if we love peace, if we cried with the rest of the word for what happened in New York, then why are we supporting the Qur'an that preaches killing, that advocates holy war, that calls for the murder of non-Muslims? It is not the extremists who have misunderstood Islam. They do literally what the Qur'an asks them to do. It is we who misunderstand Islam. We are the ones who are confused. We are the ones who wrongly assume that Islam is the religion of peace. Islam is not a religion of peace. In its so-called pure form it can very well be interpreted as a doctrine of hate. Terrorists are doing just that and we the intellectual apologists of Islam are justifying it. We can stop this madness. Yes, we can avert the disaster that is hovering over our heads. Yes, we can denounce the doctrines that promote hate. Yes, we can embrace the rest of humanity with love. Yes, we can become part of a united world, members of one human family, flowers of one garden. We can dump the claim of infallibility of our Book, and the questionable legacy of our Prophet.Dear friends, there is no time to waste. Let us put an end to this lie. Let us not fool ourselves. Islam is not a religion of peace, of tolerance, of equality or of unity of humankind. Let us read the Qur'an. Let us face the truth even if it is painful. As long as we keep this lie alive, as long as we hide our head in the sands of Arabia we are feeding terrorism. As long as you and I keep calling Qur'an the unchangeable book of God, we cannot blame those who follow the teachings therein. As long as we pay our Khums and Zakat our money goes to promote Islamic expansionism and that means terrorism, Jihad and war. Islam divides the world in two. Darul Harb (land of war) and Darul Islam (land of Islam). Darul Harb is the land of the infidels, Muslims are required to infiltrate those lands, proselytise and procreate until their numbers increase and then start the war and fight and kill the people and impose the religion of Islam on them and convert that land into Darul Islam. In all fairness we denounce this betrayal. This is abuse of the trust. How can we make war in the countries that have sheltered us? How can we kill those who have befriended us? Yet willingly or unwillingly we have become pawns in this Islamic Imperialism. Let us see what great Islamic scholars have had to say in this respect.Dr. M. Khan the translator of Sahih Bukhari and the Qur'an into English wrote: Allah revealed in Sura Bara'at (Repentance, IX) the order to discard (all) obligations (covenants, etc), and commanded the Muslims to fight against all the Pagans as well as against the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) if they do not embrace Islam, till they pay the Jizia (a tax levied on the Jews and Christians) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued (as it is revealed in 9:29). So the Muslims were not permitted to abandon the fighting against them (Pagans, Jews and Christians) and to reconcile with them and to suspend hostilities against them for an unlimited period while they are strong and have the ability to fight against them. So at first the fighting was forbidden, then it was permitted, and after that it was made obligatory [Introduction to English translation of Sahih Bukhari, p.xxiv.] Dr. Sobhy as-Saleh, a contemporary Islamic academician quoted Imam Suyuti the author of Itqan Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an who wrote: The command to fight the infidels was delayed until the Muslims become strong, but when they were weak they were commanded to endure and be patient. [ Sobhy as_Saleh, Mabaheth Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an, Dar al-'Ilm Lel-Malayeen, Beirut, 1983, p. 269.]Dr. Sobhy, in a footnote, commends the opinion of a scholar named Zarkashi who said: Allah the most high and wise revealed to Mohammad in his weak condition what suited the situation, because of his mercy to him and his followers. For if He gave them the command to fight while they were weak it would have been embarrassing and most difficult, but when the most high made Islam victorious He commanded him with what suited the situation, that is asking the people of the Book to become Muslims or to pay the levied tax, and the infidels to become Muslims or face death. These two options, to fight or to have peace return according to the strength or the weakness of the Muslims. [ibid p. 270]Other Islamic scholars (Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi, Ga'far ar-Razi, Rabi' Ibn 'Ons, 'Abil-'Aliyah, Abd ar-Rahman Ibn Zayd Ibn 'Aslam, etc.) agree that the verse Slay the idolaters wherever you find them (9:5) cancelled those few earlier verses that called for tolerance in the Qur'an and were revealed when Islam was weak. Can you still say that Islam is the religion of peace? We propose a solution.

We know too well that it is not easy to denounce our faith because it means denouncing a part of ourselves. We are a group of freethinkers and humanists with Islamic roots. Discovering the truth and leaving the religion of our fathers and forefathers was a painful experience. But after learning what Islam stands for we had no choice but to leave it. After becoming familiar with the Qur'an the choice became clear: It is either Islam or humanity. If Islam thrives, then humanity will die. We decided to side with humanity. Culturally we are still Muslims but we no longer believe in Islam as the true religion of God. We are humanists. We love humanity. We work for the unity of humankind. We work for equality between men and women. We strive for the secularisation of Islamic countries, for democracy and freedom of thought, belief and expression. We decided to live no longer in self-deception but to embrace humanity, and to enter into the new millennium hand in hand with people of other cultures and beliefs in amity and in peace.We denounce the violence that is eulogized in the Qur'an as holy war (Jihad). We condemn killing in the name of God. We believe in the sanctity of human life, not in the inviolability of beliefs and religions. We invite you to join us and the rest of humanity and become part of the family of humankind - in love, camaraderie and peace.

Arabic translation الترجمة العربية

See http://www.centerforinquiry.net/isis and http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ for more.

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3351   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 14, 8:59am  

In the past 48 hours:

* German Christmas Market Plot busted, 5 Muslims arrested from across the MENA
* Bondi Beach, 11 dead and more injured from Al-Blessings of Al-Diversity.
* Brown University, either a Muslim or Tranny, probably the former as multiple reports of yelling "Snackbar"
3352   Patrick   2025 Dec 14, 9:19am  

How many times to Muslims have to murder random innocent people before the point sinks in?

When the public finally realizes that Islam itself is terrorism, then Islam can be completely banned from the West.

Every mosque in the West is a foreign military base.
3353   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 14, 9:22am  

Patrick says

How many times to Muslims have to murder random innocent people before the point sinks in?


COVID skeptics are banned quite quick.

3354   Patrick   2025 Dec 14, 9:39am  

https://x.com/F_Desouche/status/2000254437051207832


Australia: Sydney terrorists filmed just a few meters away. The latest report states 11 people killed and at least 29 injured (Update)



3355   Patrick   2025 Dec 14, 9:59am  

No Muslim should be allowed to enter any civilized country because this event happens over and over forever when Muslims are allowed near non-Muslims.
3356   The_Deplorable   2025 Dec 14, 12:01pm  

FreeAmericanDOP says
"One of these men was banned from Australia"

The imbecility of the Globalist Nazis is breathtaking.
3357   gabbar   2025 Dec 14, 12:09pm  

Patrick says

When the public finally realizes that Islam itself is terrorism, then Islam can be completely banned from the West.

Every mosque in the West is a foreign military base.


Take away the right of Muslims to vote (since non-Muslims do not have a right to vote in several Muslim countries), they loose all their power with the politicians...then politicians will ban them...or we live with the cons of party/power first democratic system.
3358   AD   2025 Dec 14, 12:30pm  

Say his name !


3359   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Dec 14, 1:25pm  

FreeAmericanDOP says

Aussie of the Year.


Should have shot him in the gut right there after taking that gun away.
3360   AD   2025 Dec 14, 1:27pm  

Who dialed these shooters in or at least coached or motivated them just like any other terrorist like Charlie Kirk's murders and Thomas Crooks ?
3361   KgK one   2025 Dec 14, 1:49pm  




All that jihadi material cia printed in usa n spread in pakistan is coming back to west. Muslims in these countries are traveling the world n spreading violence.
3362   Patrick   2025 Dec 14, 2:49pm  

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/ckgk391yzm7t


New South Wales Police say 15 people, including 10-year-old girl, were killed in a shooting at Bondi Beach on Sunday - their ages range from 10 to 87

The attack happened while an event was being held to mark the start of Hanukkah - police say they're treating it as a terror incident

The two gunmen were father and son, police say. The 50-year-old man also died at the scene while the 24-year-old remains in hospital in critical condition
3365   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 14, 9:08pm  

The media keeps saying the man who disarmed the Muslim terrorist in Australia today is also a Muslim who owns a fruit stand.

Credible reports suggest the man is actually a Lebanese or Coptic Christian.
Don’t fall for the propaganda.
3366   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 14, 11:36pm  

Confirmed that the hero is a Lebanese Christian.

BTW, there is female officer panic element to this as well. There were 3-4 officers, most/all of them women, in the vicinity.
3367   Patrick   2025 Dec 15, 6:52am  

Thanks, got a link?
3368   Patrick   2025 Dec 15, 7:11am  

KgK one says

All that jihadi material cia printed in usa n spread in pakistan is coming back to west.


Yes, the CIA made a terrible mistake in using Islamic violence as a weapon. It's hard to contain.
3369   Patrick   2025 Dec 15, 7:12am  

AD says

Who dialed these shooters in or at least coached or motivated them just like any other terrorist like Charlie Kirk's murders and Thomas Crooks ?


Mohammed.
3370   Patrick   2025 Dec 15, 7:14am  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says


I was definitely a ducker when guns came out at a party i was at and the host started getting pistol whipped.


Holy crap.
3371   Patrick   2025 Dec 15, 7:24am  

More about the Christmas market attack plans:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2146068/germany-christmas-market-attack-arrests


German police have arrested five men suspected of plotting an attack on a Christmas market. The suspects — three Moroccan nationals aged 22, 28 and 30, a 56-year-old Egyptian, and a 37-year-old Syrian — were detained on Friday in connection with an alleged Islamist-motivated plan to ram a vehicle into crowds at a market in the Dingolfing-Landau district of southern Bavaria, northeast of Munich.

Prosecutors allege the Egyptian, reported by German media to be an imam at a local mosque, called for the attack with the intent of killing or injuring as many people as possible. The three Moroccans are accused of agreeing to carry it out, while the Syrian is suspected of encouraging them. ...

The arrests come amid heightened vigilance following past attacks on German Christmas markets, including the deadly car-ramming in Magdeburg last December that killed six people and injured hundreds, as well as the 2016 Berlin truck attack that claimed 12 lives. ...

Prosecutors allege the Egyptian, reported by German media to be an imam at a local mosque, called for the attack with the intent of killing or injuring as many people as possible.


Every mosque is a foreign military base.
3372   clambo   2025 Dec 15, 8:20am  

Islam is a cancer on the world.
3373   Patrick   2025 Dec 15, 9:26am  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/if-not-invasion-what


so here’s an honest question i’d like you to keep it in mind as you read this:

if we are not to call much of what has been going on in the west of late “an invasion” then what, candidly and frankly, are we to call it? ...

yet again, this time in sydney, in a notably “gun free zone,” we see murderously effective attacks by devotees to the self-styled “religion of peace” upon innocents merely seeking to celebrate a holiday in peace. (in this case hanukkah) two islamic jihadis with rifles started shooting into crowds. they fired a great many times over 10 or 20 minutes, repeatedly stopping to reload. this was managed with what looked like bolt action rifles. ~16 were killed (reports vary) and another ~40 were injured. a car load of bombs/IEDs was also discovered. it has been posited this was for a “second wave” or potentially as a means to massacre first responders (police, ambulance), a common terror tactic that both produces more fear and makes responders hesitate in the future.

it likely would have been worse had not a brave (and unarmed) bystander tackled one of the shooters and disarmed him.

this was an incredibly courageous move, especially as there was still a second active shooter. monday morning quarterbacking about “why didn’t he kill him?” seems unjust here. this was an astonishing and selfless act at great personal risk. the man is a legit hero and i do not use that word lightly.

there appear to have been at least 4 armed aussie cops on the scene. none did anything during most of this shooting. they did not return fire. they just milled around (or actually hid) like uvalde’s finest. ...

the shooters appear to have been motivated by a desire to massacre jews.

i’m sure we’ll get the full raft of “just a good boy, loved reciting his quran and loved his family” but let’s get real for a minute:

good boys don’t shoot up parks full of peaceful people.




you would not know it to hear the aussie press speak. they have taken a tone as predictable as it is terrible “gee, we just cannot speculate as to what the factors are that contributed to this awful tragedy…”

you may think i’m exaggerating. see for yourselves: (video)

it’s all passive voice and handwringing about “tragedy” as if this were some accident or chance mishap. “don’t want to speculate.” “people lost their lives.”

no, they were killed.

say it out loud in active voice.

this was premeditated murder and those who did it were hoping to kill a lot more people than they did. ...

we do not want it to be true that some people are this awful and that they exist in such large numbers, that this flow of alleged lambs is laden with wolves. i sure as hell didn’t. but past a certain point, it gets pretty hard to keep accepting the same tired justifications.



if you had a wasp’s nest on your deck and you kept getting stung when you went outside, would you say “well, not all the wasps in this nest have stung me, let’s give them a chance?”

maybe once.

maybe twice.

probably none if you have any sense, wasps being wasps, but regardless:

past a point, wasp’s nest is a wasp’s nest, and you cannot have it near where you live.

not even if some of the wasps are lovely, pleasant, productive insects.

past a point, the bad apples ruin the barrel.

with remarkable prescience, christopher hitchens warned of this 20 years ago.

“the right to complain will be taken away from you.”

an entire way of life in europe is being demolished because it has become first “impolite” and increasingly “illegal” to criticize those seeking to immolate it.

again, what are we to call this? what does one call those who come to your land to do this?

and what does one call those who apologize for and appease them?



an attack was foiled this weekend in bavaria. the plan was to ram vehicles into a christmas market killing as many people as possible. this was planned in and encouraged by the local mosque.




so, you tell me, is this “islamophobia?” because from where i sit, it’s the christmas markets that all need (seemingly with justification) crash barriers to protect them and yet the mosques are all wide open and safe.

if this were prejudice and predation against muslims, it would be the other way around, no? christmas would be safe and prayer rugs at risk. is it “phobic” to fear something that keeps attacking you? to claim such seems like propaganda. it seems like “stop being foxphobic chicken, there are many valuable vulpines in our community.”

a special class of inhabitant has arisen here.

even when mosques plan atrocities such as this one, will anything happen to them? will they be shut down, proscribed, will indivuduals, at least, be held to account? probably not.

it won’t happen because these groups are highly tribal, highly unified, and will rage and riot if you try. and once you let them get to a certain size, there’s just no spraying the wasps nest anymore because there are too many others around. attack one and all will come to sting.

so governments lose power in their own land to uphold laws, peace, and morals.

they live in fear of a foreign people resident upon their own soil. ...



and in the end, this is why the arguments about “but the good ones!” and “not all scorpions!” fail. you cannot separate them excpet by most careful opt in policy. and mostly that gets done wrong. you can’t make it work.




sure, it’s never “every one” but at what point must one simply decide “no more?”

there are just too many bad ones. the numbers don’t lie.

allowing immigration is a choice, a choice of both how many and whom to allow.

and this is not a gray area, some unjust ascription of malice and intent to a blameless people just seeking to join us and adopt our ways.

nothing about this is accidental or incidental.

they very people who leap at the opportunity to move to your country and live off its welfare will openly tell you that they despise you, find you degenerate, will never assimilate, and wish to tear your culture down.

meet mohammed nusairat, an “islamic scholar” in chicago.

this speech is from one month ago, 11/14/2025 at the noon islamic center, a group with ties to hizb ut-tahrir, a transnational group banned in a number of countries for promoting islamic supremacy.

given the sentiments, it’s not difficult to see why.

“Islam did NOT come to co-exist. Islam is ALWAYS superior.

Nothing is above Islam.” “It didn’t come to live with other religions… Islam came to CORRECT all that. To REMOVE the oppression of those religions. It’s the ONLY way to justice.”

no one else gets a share of truth. islam is the ONLY truth. it cannot exist as a religion among religions (or among nonbelievers). it must be the only religion. and everyone must believe.

again, not my words. hear them for yourself. this is neither subtle nor in any manner said in jest. this is a group telling you exactly what they want and how they see you. and keep in mind that when they say this, they seem islam and sharia as inseparable from government, law, and life. this is not a culture of “live and let live.” it is a culture of absolute theocratic conquest.

astoundingly, this group is banned in egypt, jordan, saudi, syria, libya, and tunisia as well as kazakhstan, uzbekistan, kyrgyzstan, tajikistan, and turkmenistan, india, pakistan, turkey. even the UK calls them terrorists and banned them.

but in illinois?




this is the special kind of stupid that afflicts the high trust, high function society at its apogee. it has been so long since such societies had anything to fear that they have forgotten about the concept of danger. lambs walk right up to slavering wolves sure in their little lamby hearts of hearts that they must all be good doggins who just need a kind word and a chance. ...

it’s an astonishing inversion of power. touch one of these people and you’ll do time. hell, meme about it and the bobbies will come for you.

but block downtown with flares and chants for global intifada (which let us not forget is literally a call for insurrection and conquest) and all good mate. not a copper will care....

it seems to fail to “go hot” in the US in quite the same way because the same critical mass has not been reached and because americans are too well armed to menace in quite the same way, but you can see the intensity of the tribal grift and stealing in minnesota...

the west forgot what “deeply religious” means. the islamic world did not and their faith is explicitly one of intolerance and dominance. pretending you can share a pluralistic society with it is self delusion. they will tell you you can, right up until they are too big to fight and resist, and then they take control. again, this is not conjecture. they speak of this explicitly.

never make peace when you are powerful.

always ask it of the powerful when you are weak.

and now they are here, growing in number, growing in political power, and growing in violence against the unbeliever. and if you think it’s violent now, wait until you see what happens when they get more numbers and more power. in much of europe, it’s at a tipping point right now. laws are being passed to criminalize criticizing this takeover. that’s how you know the power shift has begun to affect institutional capture. lose that one, and the noose goes awfully tight, awfully fast. ...

and if that means hurting people’s feelings or getting called “phobic” by the kind of people who are going to yell that at you anyway, well, cookies, crumbling, so be it.

the goal of islam is sharia through jihad.

it does not apologize for this.

it expects you to thank it for correcting you, for showing you the way.

“the beloved’s fist is as sweet as raisins.”

that’s not a joke. it’s a saying about beating your wife. ...

and no, it can’t be reasoned with or talked down. it’s fundamentalist. it has held onto this for 1400 years.

it embeds great violence against women and outsiders as a centerpiece of its morality all while espousing peacefulness.

and if you fall for that one, well, you’ll basically fall for anything.

and that which you once called civilization shall not long remain yours.
3374   KgK one   2025 Dec 15, 6:24pm  

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSS2RYNAY3G/

Usa keeps funding terrorist pakistan where top 10 terrorist group and Osama bin Laden was kept safe.
3375   Misc   2025 Dec 15, 7:03pm  

KgK one says

Usa keeps funding terrorist pakistan where top 10 terrorist group and Osama bin Laden was kept safe.


If we didn't ALL of those Fucktards would move to the UK.
3376   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 15, 7:06pm  

Trump immediately stopped sharing certain intel with the UK. It was all finding it's way back to Karachi and Teheran via LabourPak
3377   Patrick   2025 Dec 16, 12:22pm  





What it looked like after 11 Syrian Muslims killed the Bataclan France club attendees on Nov 13, 2015.


Muslims will keep murdering random Europeans over and over forever until the Muslims are finally all expelled.
3379   Patrick   2025 Dec 16, 12:35pm  

The latest "misunderstandings of Islam":

https://thereligionofpeace.com/

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