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True!

And the problem with ivermectin is that it is extremely cheap as well as very effective.

Similar for HCQ.

Our government is a mafia which is killing large numbers of people for profit.

https://ground.news/article/exclusive-unitedhealthcare-ceo-fatally-shot-outside-of-hilton-hotel-in-midtown-in-possible-targeted-attack-sources

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson Fatally Shot in Manhattan

Brian Thompson, CEO of UnitedHealthcare, was fatally shot on Wednesday morning in a targeted attack outside a Midtown Manhattan hotel.
Thompson was in Manhattan for UnitedHealthcare’s 2024 investor conference when he was killed.
The New York Police Department reported that the suspect fled the scene and remains at large; no arrests have been made.

There are 50 million suspects, the customers of UnitedHealthcare.

Patrick says

There are 50 million suspects, the customers of UnitedHealthcare.

I was watching an interview of Eric Bethel on YouTube. He was saying that in China, there is no moral code. We are probably better than China as people but man a health system that exploits its children because its legal is not the nicest.

gabbar says

I was watching an interview of Eric Bethel on YouTube. He was saying that in China, there is no moral code. We are probably better than China as people but man a health system that exploits its children because its legal is not the nicest.

Remind me how did you react to mayor of NY banning oversized drink cups at fast food places some years ago. Did you, like other principled conservatives on this site, scream "you can pry that XL soda drink from my cold dead hands, you fucking Commie cunt!"? 🤡

Obligatory:

We do not yet know the motive for the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. But it would not surprise me if the killer stalked Thompson because UnitedHealthcare had denied medical coverage, or forced a family or an individual into bankruptcy, after the company failed to cover a serious illness. Insurers reject about 1 in 7 claims for treatment, often by deciding the treatment is not “medically necessary.”

Among 10 high-income nations, the United States spends the most on health care but has the worst health outcomes. Americans die four years earlier than their counterparts in other industrialized nations.

There are more than 200 million Americans who rely on private health insurance, but once they become seriously ill, they are often tossed aside, left with crippling medical bills and unable to receive adequate treatment. Exorbitant medical bills account for about 40 percent bankruptcies. Many of those driven into bankruptcy because of medical bills had medical insurance.

The revenue of six largest insurers -- Anthem, Centene, Cigna, AVS/Aetna, Humana and UnitedHealth -- have more than quadrupled from 2010 to $1.1 trillion. Combined revenues of the 3 biggest -- United, CVS/Aetna and Cigna -- have quintupled.

These corporations, in moral terms, are legally permitted to hold sick children hostage while their parents bankrupt themselves to save their sons or daughters. That many die, at the very least premature deaths, because of these policies is indisputable.

Nothing absolves the killer of Thompson, but nothing absolves those who run for-profit health care corporations that embrace a business model that destroys and terminates lives in the name of profit.

- Chris Hedges @ChrisLynnHedges

gabbar says

Insurers reject about 1 in 7 claims for treatment, often by deciding the treatment is not “medically necessary.”

That's exactly what UH did to me for jaw surgery I needed to correct for a birth defect.

Kaiser ended up doing it. $83k procedure + meds, ice packs and other supplies. My payment: $1,200.

Kaiser can be bureaucratic, yes. But once you learn the system, it's actually pretty good.

gabbar says

or forced a family or an individual into bankruptcy

No one is forced into BK. Unfortunately people of lighter skin don't understand this. This is where blacks excel. And so do lawyers looking to get fees.

You don't pay it. Goes to collections. They cannot garnish wages. It goes away literally. Yes you get a credit ding. Even a $100k bill they'll settle for $500 if you even care. You can't go to jail for it.

Never spend more than you can afford of course. But medical, you don't have to pay and it's just a credit ding. Trust me, they'll still take your monthly premium. That's all they want. It's all scare tactics. I'm in dispute medically for my on the job seizure. I really said fuck you and figure it out with my employer, I'm not paying a dime since it happened on the job and I'm not talking to you. Year later, crickets. Nothing they can do.

And I get not everyone can do what I'm doing, but you don't have to file BK. Their only recourse is reporting it to the credit agencies and having a collector call you 3 times a day. My credit score is above average to good. I have $100k in credit card limits all paid off. I have no need for having a top notch credit score for the foreseeable future. Like 20 years when I want a retirement home in the Caribbean which will be a cash payment. I got to the top of the credit mountain and give no shits anymore.

https://acasignups.net/24/12/04/update-mea-culpa-looks-i-may-have-completely-botched-one
Insurers are noticing fraud.

gabbar says

it would not surprise me if the killer stalked Thompson because UnitedHealthcare had denied medical coverage,

Is there really any doubt in your mind???

zzyzzx says

gabbar says

it would not surprise me if the killer stalked Thompson because UnitedHealthcare had denied medical coverage,

Is there really any doubt in your mind???

OR:
A hit made to look that way. Sorta how the Seth Rich murder was made to look like a robbery.

gabbar says

It's administrators that are sold drugs and the docs are told what to prescribe. Having had a seizure all they did was give me anti-anxiety meds. Put me to sleep 12 hours a day. Wake up and I got nothing done and had MORE anxiety. They don't know what the fuck they're doing.

First time in about 20 years I gave docs a chance since my gall bladder failure. They failed again. ER docs are good by me though. It's not long term treatment. It's today treatment.

WookieMan says

It's administrators that are sold drugs and the docs are told what to prescribe. Having had a seizure all they did was give me anti-anxiety meds. Put me to sleep 12 hours a day. Wake up and I got nothing done and had MORE anxiety. They don't know what the fuck they're doing.

First time in about 20 years I gave docs a chance since my gall bladder failure. They failed again. ER docs are good by me though. It's not long term treatment. It's today treatment.

I've had the same experience - trauma doctors are competent, but it's everyone else that are corporate-controlled fucktards.

It sucks living today in that you have to monitor and double check EVERYTHING - the food you eat, what your sawbones sez you should do, schools, etc.

Doctors, if they don't have their own independent practice, are shit, period. They are forced to follow a script, and if you don't agree, they tell you lies and try to scare you.

Doctors hate me because I always ask "Why should I do this?" Instead of explaining, they threaten me. I'm just being an asshole to assholes.

stereotomy says

Doctors, if they don't have their own independent practice, are shit, period. They are forced to follow a script, and if you don't agree, they tell you lies and try to scare you.

Not on topic but dealing with it now with building. 120 days to get 6 signatures for an easement. Then about 60-70 days to get a permit for roughly $11k now that my wife gave me the final numbers on it. We're over $20k deep without a hole in the ground. I'm fucking irate.

Doctors are the same. Our builder is solid. Just the village and this damn inspection company. $10k? For what? 4-5 site visits throughout the build for something I would double check anyway? So what, $1,500 per visit plus for something a guy looks at and has no experience building? He's an "inspector" bull shit. No different than teachers. If you teach engineering, why aren't you an engineer? Because you suck at it.

Any time the percentage of administrators gets above 20% of the people doing the actual work, major red flag. My boss would help with a few things, but I ran a real estate brokerage with 20 agents in my 20-30's. Probably could have handled up to 50 agents. Some of these place would need 5 of me. There was an accountant, but I did all the day to day accounting, he did year end. I did all the quarterly shit. Payroll. Marketing. MLS entry. Inspections. Showings.

Point being there are too many hands in the cookie jar with more admin. The people doing the actual work just say fuck it. I'll do whatever you tell me coming for 15 directions. That's what doctors do.

Employer sponsored health insurance drives prices higher. Now most individuals can’t afford to compete and buy insurance for themselves.
Both gov and employers should quit their support to make it affordable again for everyone.

The_Deplorable says

Yeah, and I also saw a 100ft tall gorilla climbing a skyscraper and swatting fighter planes out of the sky like fucking flies. It was in the movies therefore it's true!

Doctors moan about insurance companies; ever wonder why?
They like to know what they're paying for, and how much.
Doctors are like lawyers that way; "How dare you ask me how much I am charging!"
Ever meet a doctor who didn't make megabucks? neither have I.
My father was a psychiatrist (a low paying specialty in Medicine); he said his big problem was people tended to NOT have insurance if they have mental problems.
Of course not; how does a nut hold down a job to have insurance?

https://x.com/amuse/status/1906653375946490293

The_Deplorable says

Glucose is used by most cells in the body as well as the brain as a whole. By using that meme's logic, it would be stupid for a diabetic to takes steps to reduce glucose in the blood.

HeadSet says

The_Deplorable says

Glucose is used by most cells in the body as well as the brain as a whole. By using that meme's logic, it would be stupid for a diabetic to takes steps to reduce glucose in the blood.

This is about massively suppressing normal cholesterol production via statins, not trying to bring back into regulation an unregulated condition known as diabetes that is invariably fatal.

Watch it, your straw man is on fire. . .

stereotomy says

This is about massively suppressing normal cholesterol production via statins

People are doing that? I thought was more that some doctors were proscribing statins for patients that had a very high LDL. Those with high enough LDL to have significant risk of heart attacks or strokes. I agree that lifestyle changes are better than statins, but for some that is not enough, and the risk of a heart attack (or a second heart attack) is worse than a potential side effects of a statin.

HeadSet says

stereotomy says

This is about massively suppressing normal cholesterol production via statins

People are doing that? I thought was more that some doctors were proscribing statins for patients that had a very high LDL. Those with high enough LDL to have significant risk of heart attacks or strokes. I agree that lifestyle changes are better than statins, but for some that is not enough, and the risk of a heart attack (or a second heart attack) is worse than a potential side effects of a statin.

You're assuming what the doctors say is true. The fact is "healthy" cholesterol levels have been dialed down time and time again over the past several decades. What was considered normal in 1980's is now "OMG you're going to die of a heart attack RIGHT NOW unless you start taking statins!"

The huge assumption underlying this scrutiny about cholesterol is false. Cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease. Inflammation causes heart disease. Reduce inflammation and you reduce heart disease.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/why-are-statins-so-dangerous

Why Are Statins So Dangerous?
Unpacking one of the largest scams in medicine

Story at a Glance:

One of the biggest misconceptions is that cholesterol causes heart disease and that statins, which lower cholesterol, prevent it. Not only is this untrue, but the highly profitable statins are also among the most harmful pharmaceuticals available (and share many eerie parallels to the COVID vaccines).

Despite growing evidence that lowering cholesterol does not reduce heart disease, the medical industry continues to push statins. Studies have shown that the benefits of statins are minimal, with data manipulated to exaggerate their effectiveness.

Statins are aggressively promoted, not because of their efficacy, but due to financial interests in the pharmaceutical industry. Guidelines on cholesterol and statins are often created by experts who have conflicts of interest. Many doctors and patients are penalized for not adhering to these guidelines.

Statins cause significant harm, with side effects like muscle pain, cognitive issues, and even life-threatening conditions such as diabetes and liver dysfunction. Despite widespread patient reports of these injuries, the medical community often dismisses them, attributing them to a "nocebo effect" or imagining the problem.

stereotomy says

Cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease. Inflammation causes heart disease. Reduce inflammation and you reduce heart disease.

I heard someone say it this way: About 50 years ago when studying car accidents we noticed at each accident there were fire trucks and ambulances. So we deduced that those damn fire trucks and ambulances cause car accidents.

I think statins are good for unlucky people who are genetically pre-disposed to have hypercholesterolemia.

I deep dived on Statins long ago (after a doctor wanted to put me on them and I wasn't even in my 50's yet) and IIRC I discovered that Statins' only became 'enemy number one' to your heart health AFTER Merck found a compound that could lower a cholesterol data point. To go from that point to an approval by the FDA and new guidelines from the AMA was a class in marketing and statistical manipulation.

I'm Gen X and I associate mostly with other Gen X and we all watch our silent and boomer parents taking boxes of pills every morning, noon, and night and we won't be having any of that. I don't think I'm alone.

I look at my PCP as my enemy and no longer do the annual testing because all they are trying to do is create new revenue streams. My healthcare consists of visits to urgent care for stitches, steroids, and ointments that I regularly require as a result of maintaining my home and land.

This will end badly for me, but I'm pretty sure I'm a goner anyway. "On a long enough time line ...."