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We should send some Patnet Liberals to Texas to treat the Ebola patients, since they are goddamn invincible.
Send some right-wingers instead, since reality does not apply to them. They can practice some "compassionate conservatism". Was that not a popular slogan?
Hmmm... Just reported, this second case was flying on a airplane the day before she started to show symptoms...
Is that possible, I thought a person couldn't transmit Ebola if they were not symptomatic? Mutation?
How is this possible in Texas? They're very business-friendly.
Should we rush them another tax cut?
Hmmm... Just reported, this second case was flying on a airplane the day before she started to show symptoms...
Is that possible, I thought a person couldn't transmit Ebola if they were not symptomatic? Mutation?
How does flying on an airplane prove that she was infecting anyone, or getting infected?
Incubation period is 2-21 days, with the vast majority at the long end of that.
I really don't like it that she was on a plane the day before she became symptomatic, however.
BenghazebolaHusseinCabronObama says
How is this possible in Texas? They're very business-friendly.
Should we rush them another tax cut?
It's because we haven't yet set the death penalty for abortion doctors, and fines/jail for abortion moms. Jesus Freaks cannot see the burning bush right in their front yard. God's punishment!
Conservitards keep talking about shutting down airports. Great, let's cut off Texas. National Guard should be deployed to prevent Texans from entering the U.S.
BenghazebolaHusseinCabronObama says
How does flying on an airplane prove that she was infecting anyone, or getting infected?
Ah Jesus you guys never stop throttling Irony.
Don't you guys feel like I do when I boldly say that rarely a hurricane hits south Florida then we get hit a few days latter.
Apparently, recovered Ebola patients should abstain from sex for at least 3 months if they don't want to inject Ebola into their lady friends. I guess the virus hides in the testicles for a while
BenghazebolaHusseinCabronObama says
How is this possible in Texas? They're very business-friendly.
Should we rush them another tax cut?
It's because we haven't yet set the death penalty for abortion doctors, and fines/jail for abortion moms. Jesus Freaks cannot see the burning bush right in their front yard. God's punishment!
Conservitards keep talking about shutting down airports. Great, let's cut off Texas. National Guard should be deployed to prevent Texans from entering the U.S.
It's amazing that you don't see a difference in threat level between Ebola ridden west African countries and a couple of cases in Texas. But that's the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives see threat everywhere, but liberals never notice it until the situation is completely FUBAR. I guess we need both because either side tends to go overboard.
But unions are bad!
The Unions have brought this on to them selves with their commie bullshit.
If you want to join a Union then feel free to do so. But trying to hinder people from working and demanding that everyone joins and pays up, getting involved in fixing and rigging elections, co opting people into Unions that have nothing to do with the Union against their will, by legislated healthcare bills.
They are DONE DONE DONE! A useless relic of this country that once was a nobel cause whose time has come to go the way of Racist southern politicians. There's no room for them in THIS America.
That hospital is toast, may as well just shutter it. Liquidated by Ebola immigrant and staff lawsuits.
Typical America, destroy the hospital with lawsuits, get a couple of windfalls, and no more hospital to treat anybody so a few lawyers could get rich.
Leave the Ebola patients on the streets like they do in Africa.
We should send some Patnet Liberals to Texas to treat the Ebola patients,
since they are goddamn invincible.
Why not the reps, lets see if they are god's chosen people...
Texans are Africans now, God can't save them.
Bono and Gates have made Billions trying.
Than God Cheney is not in office. There would be sporadic anthrax attacks in the USA if he were.
Hmmm... Just reported, this second case was flying on a airplane the day before she started to show symptoms...
Is that possible, I thought a person couldn't transmit Ebola if they were not symptomatic? Mutation?
That question is being thrown around by the experts, who knows? The virus continues to build in your system from the time you contract it and you can shed it at anytime, it depends on high the viral load is before the actual symptoms show.
Part of the problem could be how each person defines symptomatic. If it's something you "come down with" it might not be immediately obvious to the infected person that he/she might have Ebola. Most of us wouldn't jump to the diagnosis of "Ebola" at the first inkling of symptoms. The hours in between the point at which the person first thinks "I'm feeling a little off" and the point at which the person seeks medical care is probably a pretty dangerous time for spreading sickness.
Top Obama administration health officials on Wednesday acknowledged that federal agencies should play – and should have played -- a bigger role in checking the spread of Ebola in Texas.
This is unconscionable.
Once again policial based Science dictated the Federal policy, Obama displayed ignorant hubris. While sticking to the Global Warming assessment of the Ebola threat. (Us against THEM Votes). Now that the whole fucking world is pretty much shaking their heads at America and saying... "Dude! What the FUCK!!!"
Obama has a sinking suspicion that perhaps he's been going about it the wrong way.
Oi!
Texas sounds like a "right hospitable" place ..... they told Thomas Eric Duncan he was "good to go".... ( maybe a couple of tickets to the rodeo for him and his friends would have been nice )
And put the next nurse on a couple of flights home back to the Midwest, to spend some quality time with her fiance .....
"Ooops" (as six-gun Governor Rick would say ....)
And to say that Obama hasn't put any money into a team that should have been mobil by now. What about the Super bug fund he create a few months ago?
It is in our natures to either keep-cool or completely freak-out. In my opinion, the facts push the needle more toward the latter in this case. It was incredibly incompetent to not at least privately scare the hell out of the health care workers in Dallas. The "there's nothing to worry about. Let's all keep our heads clear and our hands washed" mantra will mean the death of people.
It may be Shepard Smith's job to keep everyone calm in contrast to Alex Jones' style panic broadcasting, but the CDC should have skipped all of the PC press conference crap and come down like the Iron Hand of God on this one. It doesn't matter at all how calm we are at this point. Most of the world does not have our health care system. Ebola will spread like fungus on a pizza throughout the third world nations. We will all be enjoying three hour waits to have digital thermometers stuck in our ears at airports from now until the day we die. And that is the ROSY forecast. There is clearly not nearly enough respect for this microscopic little bastard. The common flu is nothing compared to ebola.
All while government media downplays Ebola and calls us all stupid for worrying.
Get a clue liberals, when this thing breaks out all of us will be on our own to die. You'll be lucky if they give you a bed and a blanket. In this day and age in America, only high profile characters will have access to whatever is necessary to receive a cure.
The latest report was that she had a 99.5 degree fever but took the plane flight Monday night. The CDC says the threshold is 100.4 degrees....
No doubt. And if you had a 99.5 degree temperature what would you do? You'd take a couple of Advil and try to go about your business. I think that the toughest part of this -- if Ebola goes mainstream -- is that most people push on when they have a low grade fever. Your first thought just isn't going to be "do I have Ebola?" It will take a while to retrain everyone to take the early stages of "flu-like" symptoms more seriously... A lot of people might get sick while we change our tendency to ignore early symptoms of illness.
the general public, when they come down with the sniffles or slight temp, will run immediately to the ER thinking they have Ebola. It's already going on in many areas.
And if you don't already have it, you can increase your chances of getting it, or any number of other illnesses, by frequenting your local ER.
In the dumb American's defense, it was the Liberal media that scared the hell out of us, and ingrained in our psyche to freak out over shit like this.
http://www.podnapisi.net/static/ovitki/1a570c720b8b63d1c5080a60694f3570.jpg
It was just reported this morning, after interviews with her family in Ohio, that this nurse wasn't feeling well for a few days. She was in Ohio planning her upcoming wedding.
It's also been found in Africa that approx. 15% of Ebola infected don't show high fevers when other symptoms start to show.
I bet the people who were sitting in the same row with her on that plane for a few hours are feeling all warm and fuzzy right now...
This has nothing to do with fear-mongering (Vincent). I consider myself a pretty responsible person who would never do anything on purpose to put others in danger. But without even thinking about it, I probably wouldn't take early symptoms seriously -- I have no reason to believe that I would have come into contact with Ebola. I could have early symptoms, and I would take my Advil and then hop in the car to take the kids to school... or dance, taekwondo, tennis... My threshold for "Oh shit, I'm really sick... I might be contagious," is pretty high. I know there are some who think every sniffle is an emergency medical event, but there are enough of us who would never consider a few aches and pain, a low-grade fever, and a cough and sniffle to be anything more than an inconvenience for the day.
Now the nurse probably should have considered Ebola as a possibility because she was around it. But God help us if it reaches the part of the population who has NO REASON to believe they've come into contact with Ebola. If it didn't occur to the nurse (as evidenced by the fact that she hopped on a plane to plan her wedding) then it seems even less likely that it would occur to people who were unaware they might have been exposed. Again, the early symptoms could be any number of things. A couple of jumps over to our general population and this could get ugly.
We need a vaccine.
As for the nurse, she was probably in denial. Though irresponsible of her, I can certainly understand why.
If it didn't occur to the nurse (as evidenced by the fact that she hopped on a plane to plan her wedding)
Let's see, a colleague who was also treating the Ebola patient comes down with the disease. I was treating the same patient, and took the same precautions. I know, I think I'll get on a plane and fly back east.
What if she WASN'T in denial, but wanted to get back to Dallas and her fiance?
Perhaps, but, I'd think she'd want to keep her fiancé safe if she really thought she had it. She saw first hand what it does to people.
Having once been a 20-something year-old young woman planning a wedding, myself, I can almost hear the thoughts... "This isn't happening. I'm getting married. [achoo] Mind-over-matter. What are the chances? I was so careful. I had the hazmat suit. It's probably just a cold. [my head hurts. I should take something.] Just think about my amazing wedding. My dress is so beautiful. I love him so much. Everything will be fine. I'm going to be so happy. I just have to get over this stupid cold. It better be gone before I walk down the aisle.... [whine] I don't want a red nose for the wedding photos!"
Who would want to admit that the worst has happened when he/she is right on the cusp of starting something new and wonderful?
Denial. Unfortunately, this kind of stupidity isn't something we can eliminate. I don't have an answer, but it seems like we shouldn't allow people who've been exposed to mix back in with everyone else until we are certain that they didn't catch it. Just because they are health care workers who are very brave to treat Ebola patients doesn't mean that they, themselves, don't pose a risk.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/15/texas-health-officials-say-second-healthcare-worker-at-dallas-hospital-tests/
We should send some Patnet Liberals to Texas to treat the Ebola patients, since they are goddamn invincible.
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