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That's your "normal" here on every topic when you post a comment at Patnet. Hey, but don't let that stop you!!
You put more effort into that one than usual. Good boy!
You seem to know a lot about women's restrooms. Perhaps you could share your extensive experiences here?
Again, because you "have no arguments other than trying to make others abide by [your] values,
My values?
I think we are talking basic human biology. Every bone, gene and chromosome in that mentally confused boy's body is male no matter what they cut off or try to suppress with female hormones. Why do you hate science? Why do you want to use the big awesome power of the government to force YOUR values on the rest of us?
I guess I am a big hypocrite to think the government has a role in stopping parents from carving up their pre-pubescent children?
Sheesh!
You Progs really need to come up with some better hypocrisy arguments.
Now moronman (previously palin/joker?) has gone all tourettes again.
Who says anything about "religious code"? I just don't want public schools allowing dudes with dicks in the shower room with my daughter.
I know, crazy concept!
Now socal (previously Rev. Koresh) has gone all strawman again. I don't want public office occupied by dicks who think the universe is 6000 years old and are willing to use government to enforce their religious confusion on human freedom. I know, crazy concept!
Strawman blather again? Who the fuck keeps on bringing religion into the this discussion? You.........at every opportunity. You go on and on and on about religious people imposing their will on you, when this story is about dopey Liberals in Obama's government forcing a small school to allow dudes in the girls bathrooms.
If you have a winkerton, you belong in the boys' room. Truly... It's just that simple.
Strawman blather again? Who the fuck keeps on bringing religion into the this discussion? You.........at every opportunity. You go on and on and on about religious people imposing their will on you, when this story is about dopey Liberals in Obama's government forcing a small school to allow dudes in the girls bathrooms.
For fuck's sake, you dimwit, every position you take on every topic in every thread is reducible to an imaginary friend you made up and pulled out of your ass. It's the sole basis of your hypocrisy about government. You want big government if it might force your religious values on others. You want small government if it might deny the civil rights of others. That's why you are a moral coward. It can't be made any more simple, even for you.
I have to agree with socal here. You seem to be very angry at religious conservatives, but hardly anybody invoked religion on this thread. Plus, most topics of contention wrt to conservatives have a valid reason to be discussed outside of the religious realm, such as abortion, which even many atheists have a problem with. Most of these issues are very specialized and don't affect one's everyday life (even gay marriage doesn't as you usually should get married just once), however forcing biological girls to be in the same locker/bathroom as biological boys affects them almost every day.I agree that conservatives often have their own big government agendas while complaining about big government when it doesn't suit them, but IMO this is not even a conservative vs leftist progressive topic, this is common sense vs leftist progressive fantasies gone totally wrong.
If you have a winkerton, you belong in the boys' room. Truly... It's just that simple.
Yeah. Sometimes if not most often simplicity in reasoning is best.
If you have a winkerton
Is that a new medical term you use in your office?
Sounds like an ad for "penile enlargement"
If you have a winkerton
Is that a new medical term you use in your office?
We've used that word for so long, I forget it's not really a thing... It started with potty training my son. The little potty came with this deflector shield for little boys. But, I didn't have a clue what it was when I first saw it. So, I ask my husband, "what the heck is this thing for and where does it go?" (I have an aversion to reading assembly instructions.) My husband pulled the word out the air. "It's the winkerton deflector." The word stuck. It's a cutesy euphemism that commands respect and exudes power... particularly when you put numbers after it; eg., "The Winkerton 2000."
If you have a winkerton, you belong in the boys' room. Truly... It's just that simple
That's way too simple and obvious truth for liberal whack jobs to ever comprehend. They've had so many wins lately, they don't realize that pushing for pedophilia is a bridge too far and they'll lose big this election.
Obama seriously has gone insane. I bet he is doing this because he truly hates conservative America. He got elected screaming that he hates Republicans, conservatives, and he sure keeps that hatred up.
Asshole needs to be impeached and next president should overturn all his asinine bullshit.
The difference between a mass shooting and a naked boy in the girl's locker room is that the shooting is against the law.
Everybody poops and pees, there is no need for separate bathrooms other than age old fear and prejudice. It is a silly expense. If you want boys and girls bathrooms, put them in your own house, though I notice that household bathrooms are generally unisex.
Let there be one bathroom for all.
It's not because I'd be worried that the transgender person is going to attack my daughter... Frankly, I wouldn't be worried that most boys would ever attack my daughter. Neither she nor I would be comfortable showering in front of some random guy, period. My son is eleven and I ask him to leave the bathroom when I'm taking a shower. Not because I think he's ogling me. It just makes me uncomfortable. He's becoming a young man. It's just not appropriate. My husband doesn't shower in front of our eleven year old daughter, either. Yet, I don't have a problem if my daughter is in the bathroom chatting me up while I'm showering. Some of you want to act like it doesn't matter. But it seems like a pretty basic instinct to me to want to cover oneself when confronted with members of the opposite sex (in the absence of a sexual relationship, obviously.)
Except it isn't - it' a culture, not innate thing. Most humans have been naked around other humans for most of human history. And poop and pee and wash naked within the Line of Sight of anybody.
Everybody poops and pees, there is no need for separate bathrooms other than age old fear and prejudice. It is a silly expense. If you want boys and girls bathrooms, put them in your own house, though I notice that household bathrooms are generally unisex.
Let there be one bathroom for all.
Unisex bathrooms don't work. Use your head man, you think young girls will do just fine with boys in high school? Bunch of horny teenagers in one room, dirty bathrooms, yeah that'll turn out well.
It's not prejudice, it's actually smart.
Except it isn't - it' a culture, not innate thing. Most humans have been naked around other humans for most of human history. And poop and pee and wash naked within the Line of Sight of anybody.
Yes you can go live in a forest, rape whoever you want out there until someone rapes you by the law of nature, eaten by a bear, and suck it up. Or you can live in society that has structure and rules like ours.
Except it isn't - it' a culture, not innate thing. Most humans have been naked around other humans for most of human history. And poop and pee and wash naked within the Line of Sight of anybody.
Yes, it's cultural and all of above still happens.
It's not because I'd be worried that the transgender person is going to attack my daughter... Frankly, I wouldn't be worried that most boys would ever attack my daughter. Neither she nor I would be comfortable showering in front of some random guy, period. My son is eleven and I ask him to leave the bathroom when I'm taking a shower. Not because I think he's ogling me. It just makes me uncomfortable. He's becoming a young man. It's just not appropriate. My husband doesn't shower in front of our eleven year old daughter, either. Yet, I don't have a problem if my daughter is in the bathroom chatting me up while I'm showering. Some of you want to act like it doesn't matter. But it seems like a pretty basic instinct to me to want to cover oneself when confronted with members of the opposite sex (in the absence of a sexual relationship, obviously.
A cousin of mine had no problem showering in from of her son even after the age of 11. Her reasoning was, it would encourage her son to show respect for women when he sees that all women have the same thing as mommy.
Except it isn't - it' a culture, not innate thing. Most humans have been naked around other humans for most of human history. And poop and pee and wash naked within the Line of Sight of anybody.
Yes you can go live in a forest, rape whoever you want out there until someone rapes you by the law of nature, eaten by a bear, and suck it up. Or you can live in society that has structure and rules like ours.
It's still cultural FortWayne.
A cousin of mine had no problem showering in from of her son even after the age of 11. Her reasoning was, it would encourage her son to show respect for women when he sees that all women have the same thing as mommy.
And that's her right. I've taught my son to respect a woman's privacy. It's still a work in progress, cuz he barges in on me all the time... It has nothing to do with shame... or a human body being evil... But it's just rude for a man to just walk in a women's bathroom. You have to have permission, right? Well, unless every girl is okay with it, he doesn't have permission. They do have a right to choose whom they strip down in front of. In fact, stripping down in front of random people is a tactic used to break people. Making POWs stand naked in front of their captors is done because EVERYONE feels vulnerable in that situation. Is it really so far fetched that young girls might feel vulnerable changing in front of boys?
Isn't that the company that protects your shit?
If you have a winkerton, you belong in the boys' room. Truly... It's just that simple.
With separate fully ènclosed soundproof stalls and armed guards with orders to shoot to kill...this could work...
Let there be one bathroom for all.
Which is why the libbies are having a difficult time with the concept...
It's not prejudice, it's actually smart.
This whole topic of pushing African jungle culture onto modern society is a byproduct of liberal inherited ancestral guilt.
If we can't return the Africans back to their culture then goddammit we will bring the culture here to the africans assuaging somewhat the eternal pangs of libbyGuilt.
Yes you can go live in a forest, rape whoever you want out there until someone rapes you by the law of nature, eaten by a bear, and suck it up. Or you can live in society that has structure and rules like ours.
It's still cultural FortWayne.
I'd be interested to know what your kids say on the matter.
I'm one step ahead of you. I asked my daughter last night what she thought of a transgender boy using her locker room. She said, "he's a boy; he can't go in there." I then asked her what if the school said s(he) is allowed... She said she would never change in there again. My son is at Young Marines. I'll have to ask him later.... He's becoming more and more interested in looking at women these days, however... I suspect we're going to get some silly answer about seeing boobies.
Understandable. Does she fully grasp what transgender means, with the reassignment surgery and hormones and all?
I've explained it all to her. She understands that there are people who feel that they are trapped in the wrong body. I'm pretty up front with the kids. She understands that reassignment is a process.
I think the issue is probably bigger, however, if everyone knew this person to be a "boy" at one point. That's hard to forget. Perhaps transgenders should be homeschooled until the change is complete... then go to a new school where they will only ever be known as what they claim to be. But the change cannot be in progress, as it exposes young girls to things that they may not be ready for. My daughter hasn't seen a naked man outside of her immediate family. That would be shocking to her. Call it cultural, call it whatever. It's the reality of our society. I'm not going to scar my daughter so some confused kid can feel he is in the right locker room. I'm sensitive to his pain, however, my daughter has rights, too, including a right to hold onto her innocence.
With separate fully ènclosed soundproof stalls and armed guards with orders to shoot to kill...this could work...
Let there be one bathroom for all.
I just can't see one bathroom for both sexes ever working.
1. Men's bathrooms always stink. Men are filthy. They pee all over the place. I doubt if any woman would want to sit on a potty soiled by a hundred sloppy men.
2. Sex crimes would increase. Using the same bathroom makes it easier for women to be attacked.
3. Prostitution would increase. We don't need that near children.
I take it you've never been in a women's bathroom. In my (limited) experience they are way grosser than men's bathrooms. And I'm not even sure why.
I take it you've never been in a women's bathroom. In my (limited) experience they are way grosser than men's bathrooms. And I'm not even sure why.
Someone in the renovation/remodeling business told me once it usually takes them longer to fix up apartments where women lived in vs those inhabited by men, with the female bathrooms being the toughest rooms to remodel.
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