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Since the entire justice department works for trump
Really, there are no Obama hold-overs or loyalists still working there?
Any idea how many of Trump's new appointees still haven't been approved by Congress?
Trump is the new boss, they work for him now. You didn't know that somehow?
Well, one of your favorite go to "bibles" for accurate news said his aides were wiretapped,
No actually it says his aides talked to people who were wiretapped. Not at all the same thing.
The only question to be answered about the tweets is whether the phones in trump tower were tapped or not.
The details of the tap are in question.
The details of what tap? Don't you think someone, that would be trump, should find out if there actually was a tap? That's the whole point.
These semantics turned to ad hominem are childish as fuck.
Translation, I don't know what an ad hominem is. Let's make it simple. you need to stay on subject of you want to present a coherent argument.
Well, one of your favorite go to "bibles" for accurate news said his aides were wiretapped,
No actually it says his aides talked to people who were wiretapped. Not at all the same thing.
Piggy doesn't read, he just looks at pictures and parrots what he's heard on Fox.
Translation, I don't know what an ad hominem is. Let's make it simple. you need to stay on subject of you want to present a coherent argument.
Take your own advice. I've been very clear. Try reading the posts... Or keep embarrassing yourself w semantics and childish swipes at others.
I'm done w you.
Yeah there's at least a half dozen media references like that. There are huge queations yet to be answered. Whether or not trump was tapped is not one of them
Except you appear to not want them to be answered. And the wiretapping reports have been clear about what they were referring to - look at the BBC report for example:
BBC, Jan. 12, 2017: "On 15 October, the US secret intelligence court issued a warrant to investigate two Russian banks. This news was given to me by several sources and corroborated by someone I will identify only as a senior member of the US intelligence community. He would never volunteer anything — giving up classified information would be illegal — but he would confirm or deny what I had heard from other sources. …
"Neither Mr Trump nor his associates are named in the FISA order, which would only cover foreign citizens or foreign entities — in this case the Russian banks. But ultimately, the investigation is looking for transfers of money from Russia to the United States, each one, if proved, a felony offence."
That is the gist of the story from anonymous sources, and that is not what Trump tweeted, though it is more than likely where he picked up the bones of the story and then mashed it up into his own particular take.
The NYT article doesn't actually talk about wiretapping of Trump aides... The anonymous sources said it was a FISA order, so it's directed towards foreign entities - in this case foreign banking transactions, and whether money was funnelled to the campaign illegally.
See where it says "intercepted communications... BETWEEN Russia and associates of Trump.... Manafort..."?
This proves that obama tapped the phones at trump tower how? Gee I wonder who was wiretapped that the communications were intercepted? Do you suppose it could be the russians? OMG who would have thought of it, wiretapping the russians. Certainly no president in history before obama ever wiretapped russian officials. Never, not once. ever. Trumps aides were either pretty amazingly stupid that they didn't realize this or pretty amazing arrogant that they thought it wouldn't matter.
Quick lesson in physics, if a phone is tapped BOTH sides of the conversation are recorded. If trumps people were talking to wiretapped russian officials they got recorded. That's not the same as saying they were the OBJECT of the wiretapping or any surveillance. A concept that you seem to be having a very hard time grasping.
Which leaves the point that wiretapping is but one kind of surveillance. There are many ways to be under surveillance other than wiretapping, I know the difference between the concepts just fine thank you very much. Would you like it explained to you in detail? BTW did you have any kind of point whatsoever with the question about the difference?
Wtf r u talking about?
Nm, I really don't care. Try making a point instead of obsessing over me.
Flattered though :/
I try to understand others. You actively misrepresent others. I guess that's just me. I tend to be more intellectually honest than some people.
Look at your summary of my points, for an example.
For the nth time, do you have a point or are you just obsessed w me?
Only if you're a 14 year old chilien girl masquarading as a wall street maverick...
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For the nth time, do you have a point or are you just obsessed w me?
Obama is a secret muslim from Kenya, show me the birth cert.
Obama founded ISIS.
I just found out Obama wiretapped me. (5 minutes later, I'm onto apprentice ratings tweets)
Ted Cruz's father was with Lee Harvey Oswald ...
Crime is rising.
Unemployment is 42%.
Mexico forces bad people into our country.
Illegal immigrants are 30 million+.
There is no system to vet refugees.
My inauguration crowd biggest ever.
Trump U : not A rated by BBB. Winery, small small small, not biggest on east Coast. Art of Deal not best selling book of all time.
Meanwhile:
1) Russia investigations? GAME ON! We are on our way to an independent investigator. Woot woot.
2) All leaked sources in the press have 3-10 sources leaking ... and tRump and the top advisors are PISSED! the State department is especially a freaking sieve. So awesome.
Fine. I'll make a deal w you while all of pat.net is watching.
I will quote your message wherein you blatantly misrepresent me, then quote my immediate reply to that message wherein i correct your obvious and willful misquoting.
After I do this, you will admit you are wrong.
Deal?
You cant remember your own posts.I have no motivation to remind you of our recent history if you wont admit to being wrong, after obsessing over me for the last 20 posts. Weird, btw...
Folks, you cant make this shit up. #projectmuch
Your points are a joke. "Putin deserves an award for spying." ? yeah, you got me. EYE ROLL
You sir, are not an honest person.
Hmm, to take the comment literally... or not. What about his other points? They seemed to be pretty representative of the kind of things you were saying. How were you being misrepresented in those?
. How were you being misrepresented in those?
No one will ever know will they?
If you have a question about something I wrote, quote it and ask a question. Easy.
I'm guessing what comes next is the "I don't have time to waste On particulars "
Lol
they have a problem staying on topic.
They'd rather argue semantics for 90 posts. This thread is past dead. It's undead
How many of those posts are yours? How many of them are about you saying you were misrepresented and then you being unwilling to explain how? You're still doing it now.
You're still doing it now.
And so are you
No, I'm not. I didn't say I was misrepresented. You did. I'm not dodging explaining how. You are.
You are.
Go find my position on an actual topic. State your problem w it, and we can chat. Or you can simply start talking about something relevant like
It hasn't been a full business day yet... Give them some time.
Most likely his lawyers talked him into restraint of his loose lips.
Why does the leader of the free world need a BUSINESS day? What does he take the weekends off?
Most likely he tweeted some lies out after he read some fake news from Breitbart.
I keep hearing the left say that. Trump has yet to clarify. We shall see.
ow many BUSINESS days does he get?
In the court of public opinion, none.
What proof is there that he wasn't lying?
There is plenty of proof of taps on conversations from Trump Towers.
There is plenty of proof of taps on conversations from Trump Towers.
No, there isn't.
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