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APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Saudi Arabia needs hot chicks fucking on the floor of burning mosques and FREE! beer and bacon sandwiches for the entire kingdom!

A few more years and the hot Saudi chicks will be having sex on the beach. You are invited.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

Some think this Coup is the result of the Paradise Papers. Which are considered to be the Panama Papers part II

https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/the-paradise-papers/

Regarding 27 and 32, is he insinuating Hillary and friends will be having visitors very soon?

errc says

Look how far we’ve come

Trumpcucks embracing Moderate Islam

LOL. Trumpcucks are embracing another authoritarian regime. Nothing new here really.

I have a very bad feeling about the next King in the making here. Again, like Trump, I hope to be proven wrong, but I do not think the 2030 plan, or women driving, is anything but breadcrumbs. There isn't going to be a major shift toward a more egalitarian society here. I think there will, however, be new power dynamics and a much more active Saudi presence.

As crazy as it may seem, Iran is actually the far more progressive state/counter.

Strategist says

Looks like our hold on the Saudis is increasing. Nothing like destroying the mother of all terrorism from the inside.

"Our hold"? If you mean power is being concentrated into a single individual, who is an extremely savy politician, and ruthless enough to oust and imprison foes, to cement central rule ... is a "hold" ... surrrreeeee ... Trump is more like kitten MbS blew his nose on, comparatively.

Rew says

I have a very bad feeling about the next King in the making here. Again, like Trump, I hope to be proven wrong, but I do not think the 2030 plan, or women driving, is anything but breadcrumbs. There isn't going to be a major shift toward a more egalitarian society here. I think there will, however, be new power dynamics and a much more active Saudi presence.

There won't be any actual elimination of fundamentalist wahhabism either. The radical imans hold a lot of power in KSA and around the world. They aren't going to be giving it up.

The 1400s are so much fun. When is the last time we had a good ole mass murder royal putsch over religion and politics?

Rew says

Strategist says

Looks like our hold on the Saudis is increasing. Nothing like destroying the mother of all terrorism from the inside.

"Our hold"? If you mean power is being concentrated into a single individual, who is an extremely savy politician, and ruthless enough to oust and imprison foes, to cement central rule ... is a "hold" ... surrrreeeee ... Trump is more like kitten MbS blew his nose on, comparatively.

This guy, Mohammad Bin Sultan - MBS, makes a perfect puppet. The Middle East is not ready for any form of democracy, using them as puppets is the only way to control them.
Divide and conquer always works.

anonymous says

A source reportedly told the Daily Mail that the group has since been subjected to “interrogations” carried out by “American mercenaries” brought in to work for the Crown Prince, 32, who is now the kingdom’s most powerful figure.

“They are beating them, torturing them, slapping them, insulting them. They want to break them down,” the source told the site.

I find this hard to believe. Why would the Crown Prince MBS, hire Americans to interrogate and torture? I'm sure the Saudis could find their own citizens to do the same thing. They would be able to maintain secrecy too. Nevertheless, I don't care what happens to those spoilt rotten billionaires. It's all stolen money that rightfully belongs to the people. A day will come when the Crown Prince will be overthrown, and he too will face the same punishment. In the meantime I fully support him.

anonymous says

among them Prince Alwaleed bin Talal whose $US10 billion fortune makes him the 10th richest man on the planet.

What? A mere $10 billion is pathetic, making him about the the 156th richest man in the world:

https://www.therichest.com/top-lists/top-250-richest-people-in-the-world/page/4/

Patrick says

anonymous says

among them Prince Alwaleed bin Talal whose $US10 billion fortune makes him the 10th richest man on the planet.

What? A mere $10 billion is pathetic, making him about the the 156th richest man in the world:

He tried to portray himself as a self made billionaire. ROFL ROFL.

Strategist says

Patrick says

anonymous says

among them Prince Alwaleed bin Talal whose $US10 billion fortune makes him the 10th richest man on the planet.

What? A mere $10 billion is pathetic, making him about the the 156th richest man in the world:

He tried to portray himself as a self made billionaire. ROFL ROFL.

A Saudi with intelligence? Very rare indeed.

Strategist says

A Saudi with intelligence? Very rare indeed.

KSA was smart enough to fuck over America for 50 years so far. They are using your money to pay terrorists to attack us as we speak.

bob2356 says

Strategist says

A Saudi with intelligence? Very rare indeed.

KSA was smart enough to fuck over America for 50 years so far. They are using your money to pay terrorists to attack us as we speak.

Are you trying to provoke me into hating the Saudis? I already hate them. Not because they are Saudis, because they practice a rotten religion that is nothing but trouble.
The next 50 years will see the collapse of Islam. And it will be the Saudis who will do the most damage to Islam. All thanks to our new best friend, MBS the Prince of Arabia.

Rew says

LOL. Trumpcucks are embracing another authoritarian regime. Nothing new here really.

You mean the regime that gave millions and millions to the Clinton Foundation, right? Except that wasn't the current leadership, but the Wahabi Exporting Old Guard that just got thrown out of power.

anonymous says

Insider claims Saudi princes and billionaires ‘tortured and insulted’ following brutal crackdown. SAUDI royalty and billionaires are being strung up by their feet and beaten by American private security contractors, according to insider reports.

I doubt that is happening, but beating Wahabi Exporters and Twitter Censors is doing God's work.

anonymous says

There is no doubt that 80 odd years of oil pumping has created a very mixed society in Saudi Arabia with indescribable wealth balanced against a struggling Saudi underclass. The young people are revolting – as everywhere, and want part of the action. The state has been increasingly paying out vast amounts to keep Saudis in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed. The oil price collapse has driven home the fact that no country, not even Saudi, can afford to just pay its people to do nothing.

The whole population of Saudi is basically on oil welfare. Technology is replacing crude oil with renewable energy. When the oil checks stop coming, and they will stop coming quicker than most people believe, what will the Saudis do? They are not very bright, extremely lazy, and have no natural talents. We can't educate them, nor can we quickly civilize them. They will resort to violence, and that is when we will have the greatest terrorism problem ever. Our only choice is to control them through puppets like the Crown Prince MBS.

That's why they've divested in Countries all over the world.

Tenpoundbass says

That's why they've divested in Countries all over the world.

Their investments with a population doubling every 25 years won't last long. They are already facing a huge deficit, and have started tapping into their investments.
They are no different than the lottery winners who squander their winnings in a few short years.

Strategist says

All thanks to our new best friend, MBS the Prince of Arabia.

Strategist says

Our only choice is to control them through puppets like the Crown Prince MBS.

You guys are really funny. How many radical imans around the world have been stopped from preaching terrorism? How many radical madras (aka terrorist training schools) around the world have been shut down? How many saudi's nave been arrested for sending out money to terrorists? The answer would be zero/zilch/nada/none.

The people arrested have only 2 traits. They have big bank accounts to confiscate and they have enough power to oppose MBS. The whole thing is a power grab, nothing to do with reform of any kind.

But hey keep on dreaming.

bob2356 says

Strategist says

Our only choice is to control them through puppets like the Crown Prince MBS.

You guys are really funny. How many radical imans around the world have been stopped from preaching terrorism? How many radical madras (aka terrorist training schools) around the world have been shut down? How many saudi's nave been arrested for sending out money to terrorists? The answer would be zero/zilch/nada/none.

Good evening Bob. Hope you are keeping warm in ice country.
Like Rome, Islam was not created in a day. Like Rome, Islam will eventually be destroyed.
Unlike Rome, which was destroyed by the barbarians, Islam will be destroyed by the civilized.
It will happen because we will make it happen. We have no choice.

bob2356 says

The people arrested have only 2 traits. They have big bank accounts to confiscate and they have enough power to oppose MBS. The whole thing is a power grab, nothing to do with reform of any kind.

But hey keep on dreaming.

Power grab comes first if you want your own puppet in power.

Strategist says

Good evening Bob. Hope you are keeping warm in ice country.

Totally toasty, really enjoying the cooler weather. No ice to be seen except at the ski area's. Ski day 19 today. Should make the 100 day club by late march.

Strategist says

Power grab comes first if you want your own puppet in power.

How do you figure the saudi prince in power de jour is our puppet? More the other way around, trump is his puppet. The bullshit talk of reform will die the second aramco goes public and KSA aka the prince banks the money.

Let me know when some reforms that actually reign in saudi sponsored radical islam around the world happen. Not that anyone born in the 20th or 21st century is going to live long enough to see that happen.

Keep dreaming.

bob2356 says

How do you figure the saudi prince in power de jour is our puppet? More the other way around, trump is his puppet. The bullshit talk of reform will die the second aramco goes public and KSA aka the prince banks the money.

Trump is their puppet? ha ha ha Trump does not need the Saudi regime to survive. The Saudi regime needs Trump for their survival. They need our weapons to defeat Iran. Without American weapons the Saudis would get barbecued by the Iranians.
I believe your thinking is a bit frozen. Throw another log on the fire will ya.

bob2356 says

Let me know when some reforms that actually reign in saudi sponsored radical islam around the world happen. Not that anyone born in the 20th or 21st century is going to live long enough to see that happen.

Have patience. Let MBS become king first.

Strategist says

Trump is their puppet? ha ha ha Trump does not need the Saudi regime to survive. The Saudi regime needs Trump for their survival. They need our weapons to defeat Iran. Without American weapons the Saudis would get barbecued by the Iranians.

So thats why trump scrambled to make KSA his first foreign visit as president and kuscher and company have been running a commuter service over there. Because they need us Just look at how many trips the needy king has taken to see trump here. Did you ever consider making objective reality align with what you post? It's just a thought.

Strategist says

Have patience. Let MBS become king first.

He had no trouble arresting and confiscating all the money from the most powerful people in the KSA. Yet he can't shut down rag bag mosques and madras schools in third world shitholes. Nor can he stop the flow of money to terrorists in a country where the government controls every financial transaction? How does that work?. Did you ever consider making objective reality align with what you post? It's just a thought.

bob2356 says

Strategist says

Trump is their puppet? ha ha ha Trump does not need the Saudi regime to survive. The Saudi regime needs Trump for their survival. They need our weapons to defeat Iran. Without American weapons the Saudis would get barbecued by the Iranians.

So thats why trump scrambled to make KSA his first foreign visit as president and kuscher and company have been running a commuter service over there. Because they need us Just look at how many trips the needy king has taken to see trump here. Did you ever consider making objective reality align with what you post? It's just a thought.

Irrelevant, deceptive, and false. You are comparing "kuscher and company" vs the Saudi King. They are not equivalent heads of state.
Please throw a second log into the fire.

bob2356 says

Strategist says

Have patience. Let MBS become king first.

He had no trouble arresting and confiscating all the money from the most powerful people in the KSA. Yet he can't shut down rag bag mosques and madras schools in third world shitholes.

Confiscating the money from all those Prince's was the right thing to do. They stole the oil money, not earned it. It belongs to the people. His actions tells us this is the guy we need to support. MBS could be an atheist in the closet. I pray to Allah that he is. :)

You want to support the people that fund and create Radical Islamic Terrorism?

errc says

You want to support the people that fund and create Radical Islamic Terrorism?

I want to support the people who are willing to destroy radical Islam.

Strategist says

errc says

You want to support the people that fund and create Radical Islamic Terrorism?

I want to support the people who are willing to destroy radical Islam.

You are terribly confused, then.

Strategist says

Confiscating the money from all those Prince's was the right thing to do. They stole the oil money, not earned it. It belongs to the people. His actions tells us this is the guy we need to support.

The prince got his money from the tooth fairy leaving a really big lump under his pillow is what you are saying? Even more lame. If you look around the poker table and can't see the sucker then the sucker is you.

bob2356 says

Strategist says

Confiscating the money from all those Prince's was the right thing to do. They stole the oil money, not earned it. It belongs to the people. His actions tells us this is the guy we need to support.

The prince got his money from the tooth fairy leaving a really big lump under his pillow is what you are saying? Even more lame. If you look around the poker table and can't see the sucker then the sucker is you.

They have hundreds of Prince's. All of them looting the treasury in broad daylight. You think they have what it takes to earn billions?

Strategist says

They have hundreds of Prince's. All of them looting the treasury in broad daylight.

Of which MBS is top of the list of looters. Do you think he paid for his 425 million euro yacht with grocery store redemption stamps? You, trump, and two scoops getting played big time. At least trump is going to put a shitload of money in his pocket. What are the patnet twins getting?

bob2356 says

Strategist says

They have hundreds of Prince's. All of them looting the treasury in broad daylight.

Of which MBS is top of the list of looters. Do you think he paid for his 425 million euro yacht with grocery store redemption stamps? You, trump, and two scoops getting played big time.

MBS probably is the biggest looter. I'm willing to look the other way as long as he remains our puppet. It's not even my money.

bob2356 says

At least trump is going to put a shitload of money in his pocket. What are the patnet twins getting?

Trump isn't getting paid, and neither am I. I wish I was getting something out of it, though. I take bribes. :)

Feux Follets says

“The business case is hard to make for manufacturing and light industry in Saudi Arabia,” says Karen Young, a senior resident scholar at the Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington.

The Neom development is the flagship project of Prince Mohammed’s plan. He unveiled the scheme at a glitzy investor conference in October where he wooed some of the world’s top bankers and executives. Neom is far more ambitious than the six economic cities launched in the 2000s: it will cover 26,000 sq m and targets attracting investment in new technologies, including renewable energy and robotics. Its goal is to contribute $100bn to GDP by 2030.

Prince Mohammed will personally oversee the project, and it is be financed by a combination of government spending, funding from the Public Investment Fund, the $230bn sovereign wealth fund, and private sector investment.

Similar diversification plans have been tried many times before and stumbled. But Saudi officials insist they have heeded ...

Nice article. Thanks for posting.
I wish MBS the best, and want him to succeed. I just don't see him succeeding even if he throws billions more at his pet projects. The Saudi people just don't have what it takes to succeed without oil money and foreigners. The Saudis are basically lazy, unskilled, not very bright and uneducated. It's not gonna change in 12 years. They will be counting on outside help to make anything work.

Yah I agree with Strategist. Your people are your best resource, so when those people are lazy, unmotivated to accomplish anything in this life other than jihad, and incredibly fatalistic, they won’t create much that they aren’t commanded to create. Unless the prince manages to reduce the sway of Islam in that most Islamic nation, he has precious little hope of advancing his people past the barbarian stage.

Feux Follets says

Prince Muhammad’s strategy of suppressing dissent while loosening up in some areas appears calculated. He has made many enemies by sidelining fellow royals, shaking down businessmen, locking up liberals and alienating religious leaders. But few question his rule. Saudis seem to be adapting to the likelihood that one unaccountable man will rule them for decades to come.

Yet another leader for life ruthless strongman that trump gushes over. Unlike those weak democratically elected leaders who are actually accountable to the voters.

Anyone want to take a bet on when we will start hearing that limiting the president to 2 terms is a bad deal for America? That we need to overturn the 2 term limit to MAGA.

bob2356 says

Feux Follets says

Prince Muhammad’s strategy of suppressing dissent while loosening up in some areas appears calculated. He has made many enemies by sidelining fellow royals, shaking down businessmen, locking up liberals and alienating religious leaders. But few question his rule. Saudis seem to be adapting to the likelihood that one unaccountable man will rule them for decades to come.

Yet another leader for life ruthless strongman that trump gushes over. Unlike those weak democratically elected leaders who are actually accountable to the voters.

Islamic countries are not ready for democracy. The best we can expect is an American friendly puppet, and we have that in Saudi Prince MBS.

bob2356 says

Anyone want to take a bet on when we will start hearing that limiting the president to 2 terms is a bad deal for America? That we need to overturn the 2 term limit to MAGA.

Hey, that's a great idea. How come I did not thunk it.

bob2356 says

Yet another leader for life ruthless strongman that trump gushes over. Unlike those weak democratically elected leaders who are actually accountable to the voters.

Whereas under Obama, King Abdullah was a beacon of democracy. And nary a peep was heard from Obama or his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton.