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Booger says

mell says

there still needs to be proven that they knew about it.

Is e verify broken?

I doubt that the CEO looks at e-verify. The hiring manager def needs to, as well as HR.

Tim Aurora says

Make sure you include Trump as many of his properties employ illegal aliens.

This seems unlikely, since his haters would certainly be all over that in an instant.

mell says

But the hiring manager/HR has the duty to vet those people and quit their job and blow the whistle if the company instructs them to do illegal things.

There should be a huge reward for employees blowing the whistle on illegal employers.

Patrick says

There should be a huge reward for employees blowing the whistle on illegal employers.

You mean like Snowden's reward ?

I was thinking of something more rewarding than exile to Russia.

(BTW, Snowden deserves the Medal of Honor for exposing warrantless mass spying by the US government on its own citizens.)

How do employers verify immigration status? Is there a standart routine? Is everybody checked?

Just wondering. My wife and I have always been checked, but we have accents. What is the experience of the native, Caucasian Americans here?

They usually ask if I have a US passport and then ask me to bring it in upon starting work. Then someone from HR glances at it to make sure it's my name and photo in there. That's about it in my own experience.

Not sure what would happen if I didn't have a passport.

someone else says

Tim Aurora says

Make sure you include Trump as many of his properties employ illegal aliens.

This seems unlikely, since his haters would certainly be all over that in an instant.

Right. The Safest Assumption is that Trump is very altruistic and everything he does is legal, and he loves and cares about me and my country

Unlike that Communist Jive Nigger Obama and Insane Criminal Clinton

errc says

The Safest Assumption is that Trump is very altruistic and everything he does is legal

I never said that.

I just said that Trump is easily the most investigated president, ever, and it's not realistic to think that the potential that he employs illegals would go uninvestigated for even a moment.

Also note that in spite of all that investigation for more than a year by the mainstream media and the FBI, not a bit of evidence has been found against him yet. That leads me to think there is probably nothing significant to be found.

rando says

I just said that Trump is easily the most investigated president, ever, and it's not realistic to think that the potential that he employs illegals would go uninvestigated for even a moment.

Not sure that's at all accurate. He's had one investigation. Reagan had multiple. Clinton had multiple.

I mean the press, mostly.

If Trump had any dirt on him, he'd be impeached by now. He's had the largest magnifying glass ever focused on a U.S president on him for over a year and literally NOTHING has been found.

As for penalties, I would say up to 1 year in prison and a $5,000 fine per employee. Enforced at the Federal level obviously.

Goran_K says

up to 1 year in prison

OK, but for whom exactly? The hiring manager?

Seize assets, just like other crimes.

If Harvey the Contractor with his F150, two new table saws, bolt cutters, sledgehammers, Craftsman Tools - wants to hire illegals to assist him, guess what? All going to the ICE Auction.

Do the same to Vineyards and the few hidden LA sweatshops. Vincent van Rochefort III and his grapes, along with Ho Lee Fuk, are all taking their acreage, oak barrels, and sewing machines to the great DHS Auction. Great deal for honest American businessmen looking for a good price on equipment to start a legit business.

How much jail time is appropriate for employers of illegal aliens?

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Good question. How do we usually determine the punishment for crimes here in the States?

If you are black, and selling single cigarettes without a permit, you could be punishable by death on the spot.

What if you’re wearing a hoodie and walking home in the dark, and don’t wish to interact with an insane homicidal maniac gun toting wackjob like George Zimmerman, the punishment is death.

If you’re sick and you decide to take it upon yourself (personal responsibility!) to grow some flowers in your house that make you feel better, then LEO can kick down your door, murder/assualt you and steal all your belongings along with your dignity and sense of Liberty and Freedom that makes you an American, and put you in jail for decades.


So what would be the equivalent for employing illegal Mexicanfuck Immigrants?

Patrick says

OK, but for whom exactly? The hiring manager?

Well most companies who hire illegal aliens tend to be single proprietorship rather than multinationals. Their HR processes often screen out illegals compared to your local "Bob's Burger Joint".

So I'd hit the owners since they tend to be the final say in small business decisions.

errc says

Good question. How do we usually determine the punishment for crimes here in the States?

Story: If you are black, and selling single cigarettes without a permit, you could be punishable by death on the spot.
Fact: Died while resisting arrest while being grossly overweight and in bad health.

Story: What if you’re wearing a hoodie and walking home in the dark, and don’t wish to interact with an insane homicidal maniac gun toting wackjob like George Zimmerman, the punishment is death.
Fact: Died while attacking a legally armed citizen and continuing to punch his head into the pavement and being shot in self defense.

Goran_K says

Fact: Died while attacking a legally armed citizen and continuing to punch his head into the pavement and being shot in self defense.

After robbing a house a short time before. The Media covered that up big league.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html

Also his own mother didn't even know what he liked, she was too busy putting her oversized ass on Tindr. She literally had no clue if he liked planes or cars or whatever.

"He dindu nuffin'" - he was well on his way

What jail sentence for people not reporting somebody they know is hiring illegal aliens?

What about people not reporting illigals, working or not? An extra year for giving food to an illegal?

What about people not reporting people who do not report people who are hirring illegals?

If we are gonna enhance the police state, let's do it properly. Perhaps we can learn from how Stasi was conducting business?

TwoScoopsPlissken says

"He dindu nuffin'" - he was well on his way

Obama's son was definitely not a pure fruit that the media tried to portray him as. He had a troubled past, that's for sure. It's unfortunate his life ended the way it did, but was totally justified.

someone else says

Tim Aurora says

Make sure you include Trump as many of his properties employ illegal aliens.

This seems unlikely, since his haters would certainly be all over that in an instant.

Exactly.

If that was true, CNN and MSNBC would have it plastered on the screen, 24/7

Unfortunately, It doesn't stop the TDS crowd from spewing those lies.

errc says

Right. The Safest Assumption is that Trump is very altruistic and everything he does is legal, and he loves and cares about me and my country

Unlike that Communist Jive Nigger Obama and Insane Criminal Clinton

Wow.

There might be hope after all..

On the other hand.

Goran_K says

TwoScoopsPlissken says

"He dindu nuffin'" - he was well on his way

Obama's son was definitely not a pure fruit that the media tried to portray him as. He had a troubled past, that's for sure. It's unfortunate his life ended the way it did, but was totally justified.

How do you know that it was totally justified?

The Government did a good job this time, and Fox News relayed Real News this time?

Fine them 200k per employee per year, min of 2 year charge per infraction.

Business only understand cost benefit analysis.

Patrick says

How much jail time is appropriate for the employers of illegal aliens?

quince años

errc says

How do you know that it was totally justified?

There was a trial, remember?

Or, did Alex Jones sway the jury?

why waste time and resources putting them in prison. fine $1M per illegal.

errc says

How do you know that it was totally justified?

The Government did a good job this time, and Fox News relayed Real News this time?

Zimmerman was judged by a jury of his peers.

The little dindoo could have survived had he simply gone home. Unfortunately, I think Trayvon would have eventually gotten shot even had he survived Zimmerman's bullet. He had no guidance from his parents and was already engaging in a life of crime.

Goran_K says

errc says

How do you know that it was totally justified?

The Government did a good job this time, and Fox News relayed Real News this time?

Zimmerman was judged by a jury of his peers.

The little dindoo could have survived had he simply gone home. Unfortunately, I think Trayvon would have eventually gotten shot even had he survived Zimmerman's bullet. He had no guidance from his parents and was already engaging in a life of crime.

The jury found him not guilty of second degree murder, because the prosecution were failed Losers

However the verdict says nothing to the murder being justified, and it’s obvious that Zimmerman is a gun nut retard who murdered an innocent kid who was simply walking back from the store with some snacks

anon_8f378 says

Not sure that's at all accurate. He's had one investigation.

Yes, 1 continuous investigation that shows no sign of ending in the foreseeable future.

errc says

it’s obvious that Zimmerman is a gun nut retard who murdered an innocent kid who was simply walking back from the store with some snacks

So Trayvon didn't ambush Zimmerman and punch him repeatedly while on top of him? Is that what the leftist story is going to be?

It's funny how all the stories the Left chooses to highlight about Police Brutality/Anti-Black Behavior are flawed as fuck.

Brown, Martin, Syville Smith.

The first charged a cop, the second charged a neighborhood watchman, and the third was carrying a stolen gun when he was shot.

In fact Smith had a rap sheet for everything from carrying a concealed weapon to having 'open intoxicants' in a vehicle. Martin had stolen jewelry in his locker but wasn't prosecuted because Miami-Dade and Broward have a "don't charge" policy to fake the criminality stats downwards (and was also suspended for drug possession), and Brown had just robbed a convenience store.

Smith was also a suspect in the intimidation of a crime witness, but the prosecutor dropped the charges.

Also the Media didn't spend too much time on Ismaaiyl Brinsley, who shot TWO NYPD police officers in their car after shooting his girlfriend, in reaction to Brown's death during his resisting of arrest.

Goran_K says

errc says

it’s obvious that Zimmerman is a gun nut retard who murdered an innocent kid who was simply walking back from the store with some snacks

So Trayvon didn't ambush Zimmerman and punch him repeatedly while on top of him? Is that what the leftist story is going to be?

How can you ambush someone who is stalking you?

Martin was walking home with some snacks when he was profiled and stalked by a criminally insane gun nut retard. He was 5’8” 155lb for chrissakes, why does the Right always champion such pussys like Zimmerman?

I don’t know what the Leftists story is going to be, you’ll have to ask one of the Trumpcucks that always watch CNN for some strange reason, i guess thats how they MAGA. I don’t have time for the propaganda on TV

TwoScoopsPlissken says

It's funny how all the stories the Left chooses to highlight about Police Brutality/Anti-Black Behavior are flawed as fuck.

Brown, Martin, Syville Smith.

The first charged a cop, the second charged a neighborhood watchman, and the third was carrying a stolen gun when he was shot.

In fact Smith had a rap sheet for everything from carrying a concealed weapon to having 'open intoxicants' in a vehicle. Martin had stolen jewelry in his locker but wasn't prosecuted because Miami-Dade and Broward have a "don't charge" policy to fake the criminality stats downwards (and was also suspended for drug possession), and Brown had just robbed a convenience store.

Smith was also a suspect in the intimidation of a crime witness, but the prosecutor dropped the charges.

Also the Media didn't spend too much time on Ismaaiyl Brinsley, who shot TWO NYPD police officers in their car after shooting his girlfriend, in reaction to Brown's death during his resisting of arrest.

Did Zimmerman know about the jewelry?

Is that why he took justice into his own hands and murdered him on the street in cold blood?


Why does the Right always champion The Police State when they’re murdering blacks and Mexicans, but the Police State is corrupt and incompetent in other situations?

It’s odd, almost seems as if their thoughts and words ard not their own. Like they’re only capable of regurgitated propaganda. Why can’t they think for themselves?

Patrick says

Not sure what would happen if I didn't have a passport.

You would be required to submit your original blue social security card.
If you don't have your original ss card you must sit in a room full of confused people and wait for the ss administrators to call you in some random manner. (Not 1st come 1st served.)

Onvacation says

Patrick says

Not sure what would happen if I didn't have a passport.

You would be required to submit your original blue social security card.
If you don't have your original ss card you must sit in a room full of confused people and wait for the ss administrators to call you in some random manner. (Not 1st come 1st served.)

But the SS card has no picture. Also it is not a proof for legal right to work. I've had a US SS card since I was a student on a visa.

errc says

How can you ambush someone who is stalking you?

Okay, so if someone is talking me, I call the police. Trayvon was ON THE PHONE with his hood rat girlfriend describing his encounter with Zimmerman. He can't call 911?

You don't act like a raging ape and throw someone on the ground and try to punch their face into the pavement.

errc says

Did Zimmerman know about the jewelry?

That's not the point. The point is this wasn't some typical kid getting a Slurpee. He was a neglected proto-thug who already committed burglary and sold drugs.

Goran_K says

Okay, so if someone is talking me, I call the police. Trayvon was ON THE PHONE with his hood rat girlfriend describing his encounter with Zimmerman. He can't call 911?

errc says

Is that why he took justice into his own hands and murdered him on the street in cold blood?

Zimmerman turned back towards his car when the dispatcher said "Don't confront". On his way back, Trayvon approached him from the "left and rear" and started screaming at him. When Zimmerman turned around Trayvon the Blessed Negro Youth punched him in the face yelling "You got a problem with me?!".

Trayvon was trying to impress a fat horny bitch like his mother. Not the first guy to get himself killed in the pursuit of mediocre pussy.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

It's funny how all the stories the Left chooses to highlight about Police Brutality/Anti-Black Behavior are flawed as fuck.

It's not flawed at all. The point is that police don't care about the lives of minorities and proceed to lethal force way too quickly. Whether it's a lack of training, lack of competence, or racism, people are getting killed in situations where they shouldn't be.

anon_8f378 says

It's not flawed at all. The point is that police don't care about the lives of minorities and proceed to lethal force way too quickly. Whether it's a lack of training, lack of competence, or racism, people are getting killed in situations where they shouldn't be.

I gave three of probably the most hyped examples in recent years.

Judges and Juries exist.

Brown was resisting arrest and approached Wilson screaming at him. A grand jury agreed and refused to indict Wilson.
Smith was fleeing officers while possessing a stolen handgun. A Black Officer shot him and the jury found the Officer not guilty on all counts.
Martin was shot after punching the neighborhood watchman in the face. The jury again said "not guilty".

Additionally, there was no evidence Brown yelled "My Hands are Up! Don't shoot!" that Sally Kohn and the BLM pushed for weeks. The sole witness to that was Dorian Brown, who was Brown's accomplice.

Even if every time a cop fatally shot a Black Guy, the numbers of Blacks murdered by other Blacks is exponentially higher. By ignoring the Thug Culture of Violence perpetuated by BT-1000s Welfare Queens, Hollywood and Corporate Music, BLM, and other Left groups make a mockery of their alleged concern for "Violence".