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Tim Aurora says

Middle of the road conservatives such as McCain

LOL

RafiMaas says

once again, what does killing 6 million Jews and believing that there is 1 super race have to do with socialism? The rights persecution of Muslisms is more akin to the Nazis extermination of Jews.

You're mistaking a symptom for the disease. People who have AIDS often die of Pneumonia. Does that mean AIDS wasn't the problem?

The same with Socialism. Socialism creates the environment for STRONG centralized power which can lead to things like Genocide, just look at the history of the 20th century which is replete with examples of totalitarian governments that went usurpatious, but often started off with "good socialist intentions".

Tim Aurora says

I can give you many examples of anti-gay , naziism and white supremacy but you will always spin around.

What is being spun? The quotes about the NAZI party being socialist were directly out of Hitler's own mouth and his own policies.

CBOEtrader says

Yeah i really dont care if Nazis were about killing the wrong races, whereas Marxists were about killing the wrong thinkers. The difference between these two is further blurred if you read Mein Kampf. Hitler very clearly expressed that Jews were genetically inclined to wrongthink, and thereby their genetic line (the wrongthink) should be eliminted.

The autonomous individual citizen, and God given rights associated w this celebration of individualism is THE SINGLE crowing achievement of western culture. Fascism and Marxism fail for exactly the same reasons. More important, the solution to both is libertarianism. Individual rights > collective identity politics.

Obviously someone who is actually well read on history.

Seriously, there are very few "hard" lines that make totalitarian governments distinct from each other (I actually can't think of more than 1 or 2 which are trivial anyway).

The strong theme is strong centralized power based around collectivism. This has become a hallmark of the left, not just the "far left", but the entire left. It is extremely dangerous.

CBOEtrader says

Assuming the left can read minds. Thus those who in no way behave or suggest they are racist are indeed dog whistle Nazis. The fact that these Nazis have been suppressed to dog whistling should prove to you the righteous extreme left is far more dangerous today.

#KillAllMen
#DieCisScum

I don't know if it was Kemala Harris of somebody else saying yesterday:
"If you aren't a white male right now, you should be scared."

Kind of like Hitler saying "The Jews are getting close to ultimate power. Beware, Good Catholics!"

Jeff Flake is a neoliberal, not a conservative. His goals are Total Free Trade and Wide Open Borders, he ran the fake opposition in the days when there was no choice. He ran the Gang of Eight which was the Republic Wide Open Borders pressure group in the Senate.

Thanks to Trump, now we can vote on real serious issues, not just Gay Marriage. We have a choice. Not just Free Trade and Open Borders, with or withour Gay Civil Unions.

The powers that be did not want this choice, it wanted to keep things on Identity politics while they implement and cement their favored multinational corporate policies.

Tim Aurora says

He is a fascist, a racist and will align to whatever side allows him to be a real narcissist

How is he racists and a fascists? Can you make a case for either of those?

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

Ocasio-Cortez is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and a former organizer for Bernie Sanders.

Just look at her platform, she makes Bernie look like a lightweight:

Tim Aurora says

Trump is not a conservative. He is a fascist, a racist

Please don’t just spout Leftist talking points, boundless accusations without proof or definition. You’ll need to prove that if you want anyone to take your seriously. Especially since the factual evidence directly contradicts your statements! Racist? Trump was winning awards from the NAACP before he ran for President and suddenly got labeled a racist. He isn’t a true conservative this is true. Which should be a good thing for those on the Left, but the Left has grown SO CONSERVATIVE that they can’t stand anyone who is actually liberal in political stance! It’s the worst sort of irony. Finally, a POTUS like Trump is responsive to popular will. If you protest and actually have a point (like on the immigrant families issue last week), he will go ahead and change policy as requested. That’s amazing considering the last FOUR Presidents have shown nothing but smug condescension to people who neither voted for them nor contributed to their campaigns. Now we have a responsive POTUS who is liberal and respects democratic ideals, and you call him a fascist? It is to laugh! Check your twisted thinking, sister!

Sniper says

Just look at her platform, she makes Bernie look like a lightweight:

She should have just said she's running as a Genie, and will grant everyone in her district 3 wishes.

Tim Aurora says

I believe that Obama was vilified more for being a black

Please show us where Obama was criticized for being black. Just one example.

Sniper says

Just look at her platform

Goran_K says

She should have just said she's running as a Genie, and will grant everyone in her district 3 wishes.

Yeah her platform is a total bait and switch. Almost nothing on her list is possible within the next 20 years. She's the make-a-wish candidate.

She was being interviewed on NPR the other day and sounded like a total retard, feel the bern left.

Lol she wants $15/hour guaranteed jobs for everyone, along w paid maternity leave, free healthcare, free housing, free university, an open boarder AND legalized drugs?

This is the "How to ruin the US as quickly as possible" recipe.

RC2006 says

She was being interviewed on NPR the other day and sounded like a total retard, feel the bern left.

Because this is what she is.

CBOEtrader says

Lol she wants $15/hour guaranteed jobs for everyone, along w paid maternity leave, free healthcare, free housing, free university, an open boarder AND legalized drugs?

This is the "How to ruin the US as quickly as possible" recipe.

Why do you hate FREE SHIT??!

There should be a new rule that to run for political office you should have taken a basic Micro and Macro Econ course (college level), and got at least an A- or better. Not understanding the concept of scarcity is unforgivable for someone running for political office.

Not understanding the concept of scarcity is unforgivable for someone running for political office.

I would add this should apply to anyone who votes, let alone run for office.

I wonder if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez winning this primary is the start of a trend. That is, if one is a white Democrat, especially a male white Democrat, one's chance of being nominated and elected will be to much of an uphill battle. If so, it looks like all that identity politics may have come home to roost.

HeadSet says

I wonder if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez winning this primary is the start of a trend. That is, if one is a white Democrat, especially a male white Democrat, one's chance of being nominated and elected will be to much of an uphill battle. If so, it looks like all that identity politics may have come home to roost.

And in the end it will drive white dems esp. men to the republicans once they understand they need to move away from destroying their own lives.

This will only help reelect Trump. The progressives are so blinded by their rage.

The further the progressives move left, the further the moderates move right.

I thought politicians were supposed to be good at putting their finger in the air and seeing which way the wind is blowing?

Tim Aurora says

The Alt-right is a hard-right and it will get the hard left response and a divided nation. You can make convenient arguments to yourselves and even to me but a divided nation awaits you.

The alt-right is invective thrown against anyone who does not agree with the leftist agenda. There is no compromise with social justice warriors.

Tim Aurora says

Born in Kenya need the birth certificate,

How is this racist? Got a more blatant example of Trump's racism?

Tim Aurora says

Please show us where Obama was criticized for being black. Just one example.

Born in Kenya need the birth certificate, spewed by the current President

Why would his literary agent write: "Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White."

Regardless, idgaf to discuss birther nonsense. It is pure brainwashing to think that questioning Obama's never publicly revealed birth certificate is racist. This is confirmation bias at the most extreme. CNN tells you Trump is racist 1000 times a day, then paint every situation as if hes some KKK member who loves David Duke... remember how DD was in the news weekly during election cycle?

This Trump is racist nonsense is the result of billions in propaganda and soft tribalized minds.

Good guys vs bad guys is a childishly low functioning model of the world. It's sad that most people operate at this level. The right is equally as prone to this brainwashing. Just so happens that the our current crop of extreme leftists are far more righteously blind that today's extreme right.

As you've already stated, this will continue to divide our country unless your team wakes up and stop righteously oppressing wrongthinkers.

The first step is have a minimum level of empathy. Rather than pretend someone is a dog whistle nazi, maybe try listening and relating to them

Tim Aurora says

The problem is that when the progressive give proof , the right dismisses them

So now we have to beg for this mythical proof? Don’t be coy. I know you have a lot of shilling to do today, but please humor this board with at least one of these solid proofs of racism! Oh and please don’t bring up the 45 year old stuff about Trump’s daddy being sued for housing discrimination. Anything that happened that long ago is just irrelevant.

Tim Aurora says

Trump lies ( i can provide you a list with 2K+)

Do you mean the interactive graphic created by washpo? https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.0a11c2edd385

These claims are hilariously dubious. The most prevalent Trump "lie" told 97 times by our great leader: "“We're having a stock market like just about they've never had before. Ever before. We've picked up... Piers, we've picked up $8 trillion in value during the course of 12 months...” Um... LOLZ, the left has completely lost their collective minds.

Pick out a few of your favorites and share with the group. I'm reading this for fun now :) OMG the propagandized mind is bizarre place

CBOEtrader says

This Trump is racist nonsense is the result of billions in propaganda and soft tribalized minds.

Good guys vs bad guys is a childishly low functioning model of the world. It's sad that most people operate at this level. The right is equally as prone to this brainwashing. Just so happens that the our current crop of extreme leftists are far more righteously blind that today's extreme right.

As you've already stated, this will continue to divide our country unless your team wakes up and stop righteously oppressing wrongthinkers.

What is really sad about all this is that friendships break apart due to that nonsense and people become isolated. Sure, they may think they have a bigger tribe now they belong to, be it some white supremacy group or - much more likely - some SJW/progressive group of people who pretend to be friends but will rat you out and hang out to dry at the first sign of disobedience or internal chaos. The lamestream media and the left is to blame for this. There have always been small pockets of KKKlansmen but they never really mattered. The SJW/regressive Nazis/Antifas on the left though have grown to a substantial crowd, now chipping away at the mainland and middlefield Democrats while cannibalizing each other occasionally. The result is lonely and angry people who lost all their pride for the nation/culture they belong to and just hate themselves out of forced collective guilt. Sad.

RC2006 says

She was being interviewed on NPR the other day and sounded like a total retard, feel the bern left.

Goes to show you, you don't need any political experience or accomplishments to run for office, just promise tons of free shit, and the hoards will run out and vote for you. There's a reason Bernie got like 80% of the Millennial vote, and it wasn't because of his accomplishments.

To be fair they don’t got fags in poor countries where stupid behavior leads to death by aids. Darwinism isn’t all bad.

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

Tim Aurora says

I can give you many examples of anti-gay , naziism and white supremacy but you will always spin around.

Homosexuality was considered Bourgeois Decadence in the Soviet Union. And Cuba.

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/416681-ocasio-cortezs-rise-reveals-rampant-economic-illiteracy-in-us

Ocasio-Cortez's rise reveals rampant economic illiteracy in US