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CL says

Thomas...isn't that another way of saying that republicans think that minorities vote overwhelmingly Democratic because of the entitlements? Handouts?

Everyone loves a handout! go to a mall, see a shiny new car and all you need to do is sign your name and address...

CL says

The GOP is losing in every minority demographic. Why? Are they stupid, or greedy?

maybe in 2008... did you check 2004, 2012 may not be 2008 over again, but a more sober voter this time... these are not the "overwhelmingly results" . It is the economy this time, as it was back in 2008.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

Oh come on guys, give the republicans a break, it's just so hard to tell those people apart.. I mean, when someone commits a crime in china, or south America, whatever, how do they find them? They all look alike...

But all kidding aside, back to the original topic of the post:

"Republican Admits In Closed Meeting Voter ID Laws Intended To Give Pennsylvania To Mitt Romney"

http://egbertowillies.com/2012/06/26/republican-admits-in-closed-meeting-voter-id-laws-intended-to-give-pennsylvania-to-mitt-romney-video/

Gosh, that couldn't be it after all, could it, jeez,

Ruki says

Because let's face it: In our society minorities tend to be Life's Losers ...

So your American heritage is what Ruki? You have no history in your family of ever being a minority based on religion, nationality, or race? Your family never had to fight for any right, privilege, or to be seen as an equal in this country? Your family doesn't have an immigrant history?

kentm says

Oh come on guys, give the republicans a break, it's just so hard to tell those people apart.. I mean, when someone commits a crime in china, or south America, whatever, how do they find them? They all look alike...

Actually asians from different regions look and sound different...overall heigh, skin color, language, eye and face shape...not to mention the clothes they wear..

South Americans... Some are white european, black african, asian, blondes, redhead, black, brown, etc etc etc... very different.

PS... dont be shocked if you ever go to Hawaii and see a Blonde mix Swedish, Japanese and Caucasian ....its after all Obama country!

LIBERALS do disappoint me! such REAL RACISTS THEY ARE ...

Voter ID laws are becoming popular because there was proven voter fraud and something should be done about it.
In Mexico you must have a valid voter ID card to vote.
The Democrat party is the party of government programs and is popular with the takers, non productive, non taxpayers.
The Republican party is the party of letting people keep their money and is therefore popular with productive taxpayers.
Some minorities of course are not going to be liberals. The Asian-Americans in California are not particularly liberal.
The problem in the USA is the liberal guilt and affirmative action was previously directed all at black Americans.
Now that there are several other racial groups who do not have any guilt over slavery, e.g. Mexicans, Asians, etc. the situation is becoming more complex.
The average Korean-American doesn't feel particulary sorry for blacks in poverty and would be annoyed to see his daughter suffer discrimination (e.g. admission to UC Berkeley).
Simply put, no one gives a shit any more. The liberal dimwits are trying to make everything a racial issue, that whitey is evil and oppresses everyone. What a crock of shit.
Here's an idea: I get to keep what is mine, and you keep yours. If you have no 1. brains 2. balls 3. desire, you have nothing that's your tough shit.

rewrew7 says

Your family never had to fight for any right, privilege, or to be seen as an equal in this country? Your family doesn't have an immigrant history?

Pretty much every founder of this country as did our forefathers! ..

clambo says

In Mexico you must have a valid voter ID card to vote.

Cleaclambo says

Voter ID laws are becoming popular because there was proven voter fraud and something should be done about it.

As any auditor or best practice expert would say...

"an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

CL says

Why did they put a picture of Asian kids on their Latino outreach page?

How do you know it wasn't a Peruvian kid?

You freaking racist...

Founding fathers have to present ID cards at voting time?

The all-white GOP is getting whiter. Ethnic minorities are growing.

If I were a Republican, I would be sounding the alarm. In any case, these last anti-immigrant laws, like the Arab bashing earlier in the 00s, will only drag them down further.

Bush the elder got 40% or more of the Latino vote. McCain was in the 30s. Some polls have Romney as low as 14%.

Minority voter participation has doubled in the last 20 years, and vote Democratic.

The GOP is being hoisted on its own racist petard.

CL says

The all-white GOP is getting whiter.

I'm just lost for words Emmet...

When the Wyans brothers spoof white people as Cucumber sandwich eating clueless, air head Liberals. In fact most all blacks that spoof whites in their routines educated articulated liberals are the brunt of their jokes. Why is that? The only people that give Scooter. Junior and Buba shit are white liberal apologists.

According to Richard, Eddie, Martin, Chris and countless others, the GOP couldn't possibly get any whiter than the White Liberals. Well O.K. Obama but that's it.

CaptainShuddup says

CL says

The all-white GOP is getting whiter.

I'm just lost for words Emmet...

When the Wyans brothers spoof white people as Cucumber sandwich eating clueless, air head Liberals. In fact most all blacks that spoof whites in their routines educated articulated liberals are the brunt of their jokes. Why is that? The only people that give Scooter. Junior and Buba shit are white liberal apologists.

According to Richard, Eddie, Martin, Chris and countless others, the GOP couldn't possibly get any whiter than the White Liberals. Well O.K. Obama but that's it.

Do you mean members of the Democratic party itself? Or their supporters?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/

Either way you slice it, you appear incorrect.

As far as being "stereotypically white" or the degree of "whiteness" white members of the parties have, that's a pretty subjective call. I find it is easier to make fun of yourself, or your friends, than your opponents. It's a possible explanation for the comedy routines. Comics tend to know their audience.

It's hard to make fun of people you don't know.

CL says

The all-white GOP is getting whiter. Ethnic minorities are growing.

What does it say about those who grew up 3rd 4th generation Californian.. The Republican whose name are Sanchez, Rodriguez, Seto, Lim, Wong etc etc.

None of these people consider themself as some minority, nor identify themeless as liberal lackeys.

You think some Obamatron Troll is going to change what these people have been for decades.

Vicente says

Founding fathers have to present ID cards at voting time?

retarded to the end...

thomas.wong1986 says

What does it say about those who grew up 3rd 4th generation Californian.. The Republican whose name are Sanchez, Rodriguez, Seto, Lim, Wong etc etc.

What does it say? You tell me?

The voting trends are apparent. Unless you have some proof that later generations are trending Republican, this is just speculating.

Top Leadership in the GOP is very concerned, and have been for years. They know they've embraced racist white Americans in the past and are paying the price for it now.

There is one thing that these guys truly believe in, and it's voting trends and demographics. Why have they been even attempting outreach to minority communities, if not for this fact?

I'm not saying anything that they don't already know. They've fucked themselves.

As the GOP grows more reliant on racist white voters, they are more and more likely to lose the general election.

That is why they want to drive down minority participation. It's their only out of the rock and hard place conundrum they find themselves in.

CL says

I'm not saying anything that they don't already know. They've fucked themselves.

Rubish! where was this before the rise of the Obama election and his liberal trolls... nowhere!

You have a bunch of stupid lefty idiots who cant get past that are many "minorities" who dont buy into the Democrats agenda.

CL says

As the GOP grows more reliant on racist white voters, they are more and more likely to lose the general election.

drive down to the South Bay.. no one buys into that crap... You need to get out of the left wing Oakland-Berkeley mentality.. the world is much different down here as its different in many other parts of the state and nation.

thomas.wong1986 says

as its different in many other parts of the state and nation.

Nationwide, the GOP is in danger, and they know it.

It's a lot more likely that YOU are seeing things differently than they are.

These are exit polls that show the undeniable trend towards the Democrats. Asian Americans, once leaning slightly Republican, have moved even more towards a large majority for the Democrats.

I doubt their "Papers, please" policies or other anti-immigrant positions will do anything but galvanize the minority voter.

http://mypolitikal.com/2011/01/23/the-future-of-the-asian-american-vote/

Read the exit polls, most importantly:

Ruki says

Uh, no.

Unlike many nations, we don't hold nation-wide elections.

Uh, yes. We all know that. But if you think that the GOP doesn't care about losing 5-10% of the vote in Congressional and Senate races, you're mistaken.

REGIONALLY, the minorities will sway elections. The GOP has punished them long enough.

By the way, out of curiosity ...how many minorities have an (R) next to their name in the House or Senate?

How many do you see even at their lousy conventions? Besides the wait staff, I mean.

http://hamptonroads.com/2008/09/republican-party-still-struggles-bring-minority-votes

"At their convention last week in Denver, Democrats also touted the diversity of their national and Virginia delegation. Minorities were 44 percent of total delegates, while 38 of Virginia's 101 delegates fit that description.

In contrast, determining the level of GOP diversity at the convention is difficult; national organizers and state officials declined to provide demographic data about delegates."
........
"You see very few," said Kamelsh Dave, a first-time delegate from Chester who came to this country from India in 1980, about the lack of minorities at the convention."

CL says

I doubt their "Papers, please" policies or other anti-immigrant positions will do anything but galvanize the minority voter.

if anything many immigrants are pro-enforcement on the boards and on immigration policies ... many are also pro-english as required language...

Many immigrants who have a come from left socialist to flat out communist countries dont like the policies and mindset thing of the Democrats.

So this idea that immigrants are somehow left wing - Democrat voters are just laughable... They left their native land to get away from people like Democrats and their corrupt socialist politics.

Go talk to an immigrant! They will tell you the same thing...

CL says

http://mypolitikal.com/2011/01/23/the-future-of-the-asian-american-vote/

Read the exit polls, most importantly:

a blog is your source of facts... really!

CL says

Uh, yes. We all know that. But if you think that the GOP doesn't care about losing 5-10% of the vote in Congressional and Senate races, you're mistaken.

REGIONALLY, the minorities will sway elections. The GOP has punished them long enough.

By the way, out of curiosity ...how many minorities have an (R) next to their name in the House or Senate?

where was this nonsense before the 2008 election... do i really trust what some 19 yo occupy this stats ! wait till you kick in past 35... you will have an (R) after it...

thomas.wong1986 says

a blog is your source of facts... really!

Did you read the links? http://www.aaldef.org/docs/AALDEF-ExitPoll-2008.pdf (Asian American Legal Defense Fund, for example?)

This information is ubiquitous. You haven't provided anything to support your theory except hearsay!

thomas.wong1986 says

where was this nonsense before the 2008 election... do i really trust what some 19 yo occupy this stats ! wait till you kick in past 35... you will have an (R) after it...

This information has been around since forever. I don't know why you question it. The Republicans don't do well with minorities; Democrats do.

It has been fairly typical that any Democrat doesn't even win the majority of the white vote. Without minority votes in large numbers, the Dems do not win.

Do you believe that?

How many Asian, Black, Jewish, Female or Latino Republicans are in the House or Senate? How many Democrats?

Please, provide proof of where I am wrong or where you are right.

Ruki says

How many are there with Ds next to their name relative to the make-up of the Democratic voters?

There are tons. Show me your work if you want to disprove it. Include the number of minority delegates to each party's convention while you're at it.Ruki says

Btw, after three generations, most hispanics refuse to even be considered in that minority any more, too.

Source?

Ruki says

rewrew7 says

So your American heritage is what Ruki? You have no history in your family of ever being a minority based on religion, nationality, or race? Your family never had to fight for any right, privilege, or to be seen as an equal in this country? Your family doesn't have an immigrant history?

Ruki says
My family has no traces of being life's losers, if that is what you are asking.

No I was asking if you have any history of being a minority in your family. You are choosing to equate being a minority with begin "life's losers". This has forced you into a place where you are unwilling to admit your family, at some point in its history, was in a minority ... because almost certainly that is true.

Careless talk often puts people in hard places.

rewrew7 says

No I was asking if you have any history of being a minority in your family

Remembering, of course, that Irish, Italian, and other Europeans were widely scorned at one point when they arrived in immigrant waves.

Here is the sordid tale of the Arab-American vote and the GOP. They are natural constituents, but, "Bush quickly lost the Arab vote, and trust, following Sept. 11, 2001, when he ordered the rounding up of thousands of Arabs without charges and unleashed his “war on terror,” which many Arabs and Muslims saw as a war on Arabs and Muslims.

http://middleeast.about.com/od/usmideastpolicy/a/me080922.htm

It's kind of hard to prove why 'minorities' aren't voting for republicans.

I wonder, why are they voting for democrats?

I assumed people go to the polls to vote FOR someone, so out of those that bother to go vote, why are they voting FOR democrats?

Vicente says

Founding fathers have to present ID cards at voting time?

“Eagles are dandified vultures” - Teddy Roosevelt

Ben Franklin presented this ID card.

errc says

I assumed people go to the polls to vote FOR someone, so out of those that bother to go vote, why are they voting FOR democrats?

Naaah. They vote against candidates. Out of fear of legalized pot, or gay marriage, or "terrorists". They vote against the Democrat if the Republican ads feature black folks getting your jobs.

How many conservatives will be voting FOR Romney? I'd wager a small fraction, and they'd be in Utah.

But this is good. I can surmise you agree that there is a disparity and that it is trending away from the GOP's electoral favorability?

CL says

How many Asian, Black, Jewish, Female or Latino Republicans are in the House or Senate? How many Democrats?

Please, provide proof of where I am wrong or where you are right.

For leadership its all about quality.. not quantity.

What compelling story of success does the democrats have to give to the voters... now compare that to Congressmen like Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindalor, Joseph Cao.

Serious what can you say about the unethical and corrupt minority demo congressmen today. You call this success! you should be embarrassed for their behavior!

Maxine Waters... Socialize US industries ?
http://www.youtube.com/embed/OrA9zj94NuU

Meeks, who was damning regulators because they uncovered abuses and accounting scandals of Fannie Mae.. the pet project of the dems.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/IyqYY72PeRM

Charlie Rangel... Corruption to the max! Tax paid benefits and unreported income.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/rdtFWCrCh0s

I don't see why they don't just have people bring the printed ballot that was sent in advance to their homes with them on election day. No extra cost, no ID (which is really a poll tax in disguise), and much less corruption.

thomas.wong1986 says

What compelling story of success does the democrats have to give to the voters... now compare that to Congressmen like Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindalor, Joseph Cao.

First of all, each of those is an anomaly. The two Louisianans wouldn't have gotten their position had it not been for Katrina. And Cao was trounced in his bid after that, despite being a Liberal.

And, importantly, the GOP doesn't have a history of electing minorities, because they don't run them and if they did, the voters wouldn't vote for them. It's because the GOP voting base prefers white candidates.

Secondly, I find it odd (and racist) that you see the commonality in the (allegedly corrupt) Democratic representatives as being their race, rather than their tenure in Congress.

Bottom line, the GOP doesn't run and doesn't vote for people of color. That is the secret to their electoral success.

And that's why they're not opposed to racially divisive tactics to secure their votes.