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Out of 30-or-something AM stations in SFBA only 3 are right wing, at least 2 are as left as it gets and the rest are traffic/ethnic/musical stations.
Nah duh. Its the Bay Area. We're talking on a national basis. That said, the 3 right wing stations you mentioned also broadcast some of the most popular right wing shows.
But stepping back for a minute, I think the biggest problem I have with right wing media is that for the most part, its VERY different from more left leaning media. The formula is all about "those liberals!" and blaming them for basically anything and everything all in the effort to reliably polarize their listeners and viewers so they can be more reliably counted on to sell products to. Its really, really easy for people to place blame on something when it comes to their problems and whether the "thing" that is blamed is the boogieman, or liberals doesn't matter. Both would suffice if a news or talk show program were to repeat that "XXX" was the root cause of all of their problems. That's exactly how right wing media works. They dislike the notion of their consumers actually thinking for themselves and as such those consumers 'have' to use them as their source of "news" to inform their every decision. Its evident this is the case given that most any right winger I talk to tends to merely parrot back exactly what they heard on the airwaves or on the cable news.
I would argue that it's bat-shit crazy to call Bradley a traitor. A traitor
seeks to do harm to his country. Bradley sought and did good by exposing the
harm politicking does so that we can correct it. Bradley out to get the Medal of
Honor.
Our soldiers should serve our country, not our politicians.
Good grief? Have you even followed the Manning case?
The dude released thousands of document that he didn't even bother to vet.....including names and sources of our allies working with us at great risk against the primitive Jihadis cutting off people's heads.
He wasn't selectively speaking truth to power - he was just leaking all of the shit he could get his hands on.
rooemoore
2013 Apr 3, 5:26am
Republicans suck from the tit of government every bit as much as Democrats.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Apr 3, 5:49am
Every time they use CNN Sound Off, you can bet that article is from the supreme ministry of propaganda.
Case in point...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/03/obama-will-give-up-portion-of-his-salary/?hpt=hp_t2
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 6:07am
Good grief? Have you even followed the Manning case?
The dude released thousands of document that he didn't even bother to vet.....including names and sources of our allies working with us at great risk against the primitive Jihadis cutting off people's heads.
He wasn't selectively speaking truth to power - he was just leaking all of the shit he could get his hands on.
Which is necessary to give other people the time to pour over the documents. Nothing he released compromised security or caused a single death, unlike the lies told in those documents.
Which is necessary to give other people the time to pour over the documents.
Got it.
I think it is necessary for someone to steal all of your personal, educational, and financial information and post it on the internet to give us enough time to pour over the documents to make sure you are not a criminal or space alien.
Some of the leaks included informants names. You nor I know the harm that has been caused. The US government has every incentive to downplay the damage to preserve our remaining informant networks since they don't need to prove damage to send Manning away for the rest of his life which is what he is going to get.
Even the Taliban admitted they were going over the Wikileaks data dump to hunt down informants.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/taliban-study-wikileaks-to-hunt-informants/
And you want to give this mook the Congressional Medal of Honor? Insane.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 7:25am
I think it is necessary for someone to steal all of your personal, educational, and financial information and post it on the internet to give us enough time to pour over the documents to make sure you are not a criminal or space alien.
Like all conservatives, you have things backwards.
A private citizen in the privacy of his own home, vehicle, locker, person should have privacy.
A public official performing a public job duty for the public using public authority should not have privacy.
We should be able to record what the police and politicians are doing. They should not be allowed to record us in our private lives or go through our personal effects or person.
Some of the leaks included informants names
You're thinking of the Republicans outing CIA agent Valerie Plame, whose assignments were to stop terrorists from getting loose nukes, something that affects the very survivability of the human race. That's right, Karl Rove and other top Republicans endangered the entire world by outing the CIA agent who was stopping terrorists and rogue nations like North Korea from getting nuclear weapons, and the Republicans did it for personal political gain. That's treason.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/i-Sjjmb5AY0
Now one can argue, reasonably so, that Wikileaks should have redacted specific names before publishing the material. But to say that Manning committed treason or terrorism is ridiculous. Furthermore,
1. Manning's intentions and Wikileaks intentions were good. The Republican intentions were pure evil.
2. No one died from Mannings or Wikileaks releasing this information. No one. Over a million persons died, just so far, from the lies told by politicians over Iraq and Saddam.
3. A lot of good comes from exposing political corruption. No good comes from illegal wars waged with bad intentions.
4. Manning risked and lost much to do the right thing. That's the definition of heroism. The Republicans risk nothing themselves but risked our lives and well-being to do the wrong thing. That's cowardice.
5. The prosecution of Manning and Wikileaks has nothing to do with national security and everything to do with personal political gain and power.
6. If the human race destroys itself, it will be because of people like Karl Rove, not Bradley Manning. People like Manning are exactly what we need to make sure the human race doesn't destroy itself.
Anyone who says they support the troops but doesn't support Manning is a hypocrite.
You're thinking of the Republicans outing CIA agent Valerie
Plame, whose assignments were to stop terrorists from getting loose
nukes, something that affects the very survivability of the human race.
That's right, Karl Rove and other top Republicans endangered the entire world by
outing the CIA agent who was stopping terrorists and rogue nations like North
Korea from getting nuclear weapons, and the Republicans did it for personal
political gain. That's treason.
Dude - you are not serious. Can't believe you are still banging the Valerie Plame drum.
It was Colin Powell's deputy (Richard Armitage) that inadvertantly leaked her name. Armitage was hardly a neocon or Iraq war advocate. He even let Scooter Libby hang out to dry - further blowing a hole in your conspiracy theory it was all about Bush/Cheney and Rove trying to punish Joe Wilson and his wife.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/08/leak.armitage/
Speaking of Joe Wilson - factcheck.org shows that it was Joe who was stretching the truth and not Bush.
http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_16_words_on_iraq_uranium.html
The rest of your post is just crazy talk about "million dead Iraqis" and dumb black/white thinking "Mannings/Good - Republicans/Evil".
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 8:50am
Dude - you are not serious. Can't believe you are still banging the Valerie Plame drum.
Unlike Republicans, educated liberals don't have such short memories. The outing of the CIA agent most directly responsible for making sure the bad guys don't get nuclear weapons was the greatest betrayal of America and the largest threat to America's national security in all of history.
You need to start getting your info from places other than Fox News and Conservative Radio.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/ggs8lyBsFA0
http://www.youtube.com/embed/fXLnFRgO_Kw
http://www.youtube.com/embed/BCHZHFSYmy0
If you truly cared about American lives and national security, you'd be drumming the Valerie Plame drum, too. The current crisis in North Korea is a direct result of this betrayal.
The Stylebook no longer sanctions the term 'illegal immigrant' or the use of 'illegal' to describe a person
Partial true.. they are full LEGAL CITIZENS of Mexico. Honduras, China or what ever.
But that will do little to prevent these legal foreign citizens from being shipped back to
their native country.
Dude - you are not serious. Can't believe you are still banging the Valerie Plame drum.
Dude, it's called TREASON!
Do you you need more?
Uh huh - and who actually got indicted on TREASON despite having a special prosecutor spend years on this case throwing journalists and white house assistants in jail?
They found nothing despite their political witch hunt. Fact Check.Org blows apart Joe Wilson's lies about yellow-cake that started this whole mess in the first place.
The "leaker" was Richard Armitage who was Collin Powell's subordinate in the State Department.
There is no there there - except for the dwindling band of foolish troofers who really seem to believe that our country's leaders going back to Clinton made all this shit up about Saddam.
The rest of your post is just crazy talk about "million dead Iraqis" and dumb black/white thinking "Mannings/Good - Republicans/Evil".
yep... that Dan alright.. even though the count of the dead is only 100,000 with half being dead insurgents/ terrorists and Iraqi national forces. But what else do you expect from the propaganda machine ?
If you truly cared about American lives and national security, you'd be
drumming the Valerie Plame drum, too. The current crisis in North Korea is a
direct result of this betrayal.
Ha ha! You ARE insane!
I bet you paid good money to watch their movie starring Sean Penn.
A public official performing a public job duty for the public using public authority should not have privacy.
now compare that to Dans prior comments that Clinton's impeachment was a witch hunt and Billy Bobs actions were his business and no one else's business what Clinton did...
Hypocrisy..
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 9:33am
This thread is proof that nothing gets inside the conservative bubble. Bill Clinton got a blow job from a fat chick in the oval office. Impeach him. Karl Rove and the Republican leadership interfere with CIA operations preventing terrorists and enemy states from getting nukes. Stop banging that drum already.
'Nuff said.
zzyzzx
2013 Apr 3, 10:46am
The current crisis in North Korea is a direct result of this betrayal.
I'm thinking that the current North Korean crisis is FDR's fault. He's the one that decided that it was OK to give part of Korea to the Soviet Union.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 10:55am
And then the racist KarlRoveIsScum comes along and proves that there are batshit crazy people on the left as well in their own bubble.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 10:57am
The current crisis in North Korea is a direct result of this betrayal.
I'm thinking that the current North Korean crisis is FDR's fault. He's the one that decided that it was OK to give part of Korea to the Soviet Union.
Well, let's say that's true and FDR should have insisted on an independent Korea. FDR was still 100% right on the New Deal and the Progressive reforms. And isn't that, not Korea, what you really hate about FDR, that he was a progressive and he created the middle class.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 11:01am
This Bill Clinton thing is officially O.V.E.R!
Is blaming Bush over yet?
People like Bush and Hitler who commit crimes against humanity should never be forgotten or forgiven. The negative impact they make on the world is never over, so no amount of time can erase their sins.
No person was ever harmed by Bill Clinton getting a blow job from that fat whore Lewinsky. In fact, plenty of people on both the left and the right made fistfuls of cash over this ridiculous scandal. And the fact that it still garners any attention when there are things so much more important in the word demonstrates exactly why America is a stupid, stupid country full of stupid, stupid people. No wonder Honey Boo Boo is so popular.
This Bill Clinton thing is officially O.V.E.R!
Is blaming Bush over yet?
Not until there is another repub president to blame...
Liberal: adj. 1. a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Thank god for that liberal bias or we would all be lighting our kerosene lamps at night warding off vampires and witches.
People like Bush and Hitler who commit crimes against humanity should never be
forgotten or forgiven.
People who put Bush and Hitler in the same sentence as some sort of moral equivalence should never be given sharp utensils or be allowed to drive cars.
Why do you keep insisting on sounding like a total loon Dan??! It is just so painfully dumb when you say stuff like that.
Let's say Bush is responsible for every last death in Iraq since 2003 (roughly 100,000 people). Shouldn't that ledger be adjusted by the millions he saved in Africa with his massive HIV/AIDS funding?
People who put Bush and Hitler in the same sentence as some sort of moral
equivalence should never be given sharp utensils or be allowed to drive
cars.
Well sort of, comparing Bush to Hitler is an affront to Hitler.
FortWayne
2013 Apr 9, 1:54am
The upcoming presidential election is about pandering to "hispanics". So just to be safe they'll try to not offend any single person out there.
Hillary is going to campaign on a feminist platform of electing women. While both parties are going to try to cater to hispanics. Watch the dog and pony show.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 14, 10:34am
socal2 says
People who put Bush and Hitler in the same sentence as some sort of moral equivalence should never be given sharp utensils or be allowed to drive cars.
Seems like the exact same kind of dehumanization to me. Exactly what is the difference?
The upcoming presidential election is about pandering to "hispanics".
you mean Mexican citizens who are still the responsibility of the Mexican Govt.
Seems like the exact same kind of dehumanization to me. Exactly what is the difference?
the terrorist captured are far worst than anyone of Hitlers cronies. extracting information to capture other members of their organization and leadership was
worth it. these terrorist have no humanity as they were killing men women and children... they are no different than Pol Pot Hitler, Stalin and others that have been stopped. Good let them bleed... let all their victims take vengeance.
the world is a better place today....
Dan8267
2013 Apr 14, 1:51pm
Good let them bleed... let all their victims take vengeance.
the world is a better place today....
Damn, that sounds exactly what Hitler said about the Jews.
I suppose it doesn't matter to you that the vast majority of those who suffered in Gitmo and other gulags were innocent.
these terrorist have no humanity as they were killing men women and children.
And now that America has done exactly the same, do we have no humanity?
Seems like the exact same kind of unrestrained blood-lust and dehumanization of the enemy. Thank you for proving my point.
Y
2013 Apr 14, 1:51pm
So Hillary was an afterthought in all of that..
Spoken like a true misogynist...
No person was ever harmed by Bill Clinton getting a blow job from that fat whore Lewinsky
Dan8267
2013 Apr 14, 2:03pm
So Hillary was an afterthought in all of that..
Spoken like a true misogynist...
What a laugh. Like you have anything but the greatest animosity towards Hilary Clinton. Hey, how about you vote for her when she runs in 2016.
Oh, and Hilary's political career was helped by the whole Lewinsky scandal. She came out looking like a sympathetic and in control person. Notice that her career has skyrocketed since.
I suppose it doesn't matter to you that the vast majority of those who suffered in Gitmo and other gulags were innocent.
"vast majority" and that would be by "your standards" i guess.
And now that America has done exactly the same, do we have no humanity?
Seems like the exact same kind of unrestrained blood-lust and dehumanization of the enemy. Thank you for proving my point.
you mean your rooting for the other guys.. no doubt you see them as some heroes.
nope.. no surprise coming from Dan on that one...
Dan8267
2013 Apr 14, 2:43pm
I'm rooting for humanity and rationality. I suppose those principles would be the enemy to someone like you who maintains a Stone Age tribal mentality. Such narrow-minded thinking is the greatest threat to the continuation of our species in modern times. There's only one tribe on this planet: humanity.
I'm rooting for humanity and rationality. I suppose those principles would be the enemy to someone like you who maintains a Stone Age tribal mentality. Such narrow-minded thinking is the greatest threat to the continuation of our species in modern times. There's only one tribe on this planet: humanity.
where was your so called "humanity and rationality" when George Zimmerman shot Trevor Martin in self defense.. all you showed how narrow minded you were attacking Zimmerman from day 1.
you were here on PNET posting lies if not spreading lies, calling the whole incident racist... calling Zimmerman a murder, stalker, liar, white racist and many other things.
And a month later photos were released and evidence of attack was provided to the public.
Like so many things.. you have been wrong time and time again...Oh you just couldnt help yourself! Check with the North Koreans.. they might have a job for you !
Dan8267
2013 Apr 14, 3:02pm
where was your so called "humanity and rationality" when George Zimmerman shot Trevor Martin in self defense..
You mean when he stalked Martin like an animal, chased after him, and then lied to the police about it? You mean how Zimmerman, the only armed person in the situation, was unable to keep Martin at a distance when he chased after Martin, and how Zimmerman had to shoot in self-defense while Martin was screaming for help from anyone?
If Zimmerman were black and Martin white, you'd switch sides. I wouldn't.
Oh, and by the way, I called for the arrest and open trial of Zimmerman, not his torture.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 14, 3:09pm
George Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin before shooting the "skinny" 17-year-old and any scuffle was over by the time a shot was fired, according to some witnesses.
Two women who heard someone screaming for help before Martin died told Florida investigators Zimmerman followed the teen before killing him.
"And I can tell you there was no fighting going on at the time the gun went off," one of the women, identified only as W16, told police. "And the fight that happened started way down the sidewalk. Now the kid got shot way down here, you know, 5 doors down."
Never let facts get in the way of your hate.
While the biased liberal media continually discusses the death of 1 black, thousands of blacks and a disproportionate number of whites have been murdered by blacks since Trayvon died. It would be racist to mention this fact though.
Trayvon Martin died because he made verbal threats to commit murder and committed a plausible attempt to get the gun to murder George Zimmerman. Anyone forfeits their life when you attempt to steal a firearm and say "You're going to die tonight motherfucker" after beating him and pinning an armed person on the ground.
If there were 2 different locations between the assault and shooting, there would be physical evidence being shown on the biased liberal media to prove it, not the account of 2 witnesses.
Zimmerman said that Martin asked, "You got a fucking problem, homie?" Zimmerman replied no, and then Martin said that he did now, and punched him.
As they struggled on the ground, Zimmerman on his back with Martin on top of him, Zimmerman yelled for help "probably 50 times." (See Background sounds of yelling for help in 9-1-1 calls) Martin told him to "Shut the fuck up," as he hit him in the face and pounded his head on a concrete sidewalk.
When Zimmerman tried to move off the concrete, Martin saw his gun and said "You're going to die tonight motherfucker!" Martin grabbed for the gun, but Zimmerman grabbed it first. He said after firing his weapon at Martin, he wasn't sure at first that he had hit him, so he got on top of him in order to subdue him.
Bystanders and police arrived shortly after Martin was shot.
Police reports state Zimmerman "appeared to have a broken and a bloody nose and swelling of his face."
Y
2013 Apr 15, 12:16am
I understand...
If i was a mysogynist i'd try to laugh it off and change the subject too....
You are guilty as charged.
So Hillary was an afterthought in all of that..
Spoken like a true misogynist...
What a laugh. Like you have anything but the greatest animosity towards Hilary Clinton. Hey, how about you vote for her when she runs in 2016.
Oh, and Hilary's political career was helped by the whole Lewinsky scandal. She came out looking like a sympathetic and in control person. Notice that her career has skyrocketed since.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Apr 15, 12:18am
Never let facts get in the way of your hate.
Nothing you stated were 'facts'.
In both sides, it seems like "facts" that support each others claim.
Sure did seem to trickle in Johny come lately.
I mean we see, Zimmerman's bloody face, months after the police station video showed a reasonably neat appearing Zimmerman getting out of the squad car. I'd like to know when the photo's of his bloody face was taken. If it was taken inside of the police station, after he arrived then that's bullshit.
That being said...
As for Witnesses, their memory of recounting the event, sure improved as time wore on. It's amazing how embellished it became with each retelling.
Washington had no damn business, politicizing the event. Obama using the sad event as campaigning fodder. Running around the country riling people up, peeling the scab back on race relations in this country and letting the whole thing bleed out. All the while ignoring his obligations, and responsibilities to perform his duties. Oh like creating a budget, and steering us from the financial cliff.
The whole fucking thing is and was botched from start to finish. So much so, if I were the judge, I'd throw the whole case out.
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