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Outlawing Islam


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2013 Apr 19, 8:58am   11,415 views  36 comments

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Do you think Islam today is conservative or liberal? Based on pre-2004 voting patterns they have typically aligned with American conservatives. (The cw being that the Patriot Act drove the Muslims out of the GOP and Obama's outreach as a secret Muslim pulled them in even further) :)

But I have a feeling that most conservatives would eliminate Islam with the wave of a wand if they could. They view Islam with utter distrust and vitriol.

In a case like Boston, or Oklahoma City, or Olympic Park, the question invariably is: Are they Muslim? If so, the conservative will decry Islam, extoll Christianity, and complain about liberal equivocation and multiculturalism.

Yet, it is also common to believe that the Government wants to monitor us and our opinions; prevent independent thought; enact and enforce "hate crime laws"; and make political correctness a law of the land.

So, which is it, conservatives? Thought police for some thoughts? Religious litmus tests?

What would you like to do about Islam?

#politics

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15   thomaswong.1986   2013 Apr 19, 4:00pm  

Dan8267 says

You're right, socialism is pure evil. We should get rid of it starting with the by far largest socialism program in our country, the military.

I expected nothing less from you.

16   Dan8267   2013 Apr 20, 10:39am  

CL says

Do you think Islam today is conservative or liberal?

One of the brothers in the Boston bombing has this to say. His world view is Islam and his personal priorities are career and money. If that's not Republican, I don't know what it. Religion and money.

17   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Apr 22, 1:24am  

thomaswong.1986 says

Not perfect but its getting there.. of course the Socialist always throw propaganda around...but in the end.. they ignore what ever source you present. Nowhere is that more evident than the Occupy Wall Street Socialists.

So, if Islamic Radicalism is left, then where are all the Islamicists at these Occupy events?

18   Vicente   2013 Apr 22, 4:19am  

thunderlips11 says

So, if Islamic Radicalism is left, then where are all the Islamicists at these Occupy events?

To be fair, there was at least one Islamic wedding held at OWS:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/imam-khalid-latif/a-muslim-wedding-at-occupy-wall-street_b_1096124.html#s477459&title=Occupy_Wall_Street

No Burka however.

19   dublin hillz   2013 Apr 23, 5:36am  

What is troubling about that religion is that the youth is getting radicalized and is influencing adults. Based on the known facts, it appears that the older tsarnayev sought the radical influence vs being brainwashed by his own family. In general islam is a troubling phenomenon - professor of religious studies Stephen Prothero made a strong argument as to why the 21st century will belong to islam and given their birth rates I have no reason to doubt him. Also, Dostoyevski was on to something in the 1800s when he warned of "pestilence coming from asia." One effective defense/resistance may be marginalizing anything that resembles revenge/violence coming from that religion even if it's in less than extremist forms and not letting them have a seat at the table if they don't drop the paranoid grudge that a world is out to get them and if they don't stop the conversations about "great satan" and decadent west.

20   upisdown   2013 Apr 23, 5:52am  

Dan8267 says

One of the brothers in the Boston bombing has this to say. His world view is
Islam and his personal priorities are career and money. If that's not
Republican, I don't know what it. Religion and money.

And if one of them would have used religion to make money, he would have been a headline guest speaker at some GOP event.

21   Vicente   2013 Apr 23, 6:21am  

How about, any time a denomination has a member who commits a terrorist crime, they have their tax-exempt status revoked. Easy, plus it'll force organized religions to police their own brands better.

22   CL   2013 Apr 23, 6:40am  

Vicente says

plus it'll force organized religions to police their own brands better.

Then you could have "New and Improved Islam! Now, with less Jihad!"

23   dublin hillz   2013 Apr 23, 8:46am  

upisdown says

Dan8267 says




One of the brothers in the Boston bombing has this to say. His world view is
Islam and his personal priorities are career and money. If that's not
Republican, I don't know what it. Religion and money.



And if one of them would have used religion to make money, he would have been a headline guest speaker at some GOP event.

muslims do plenty of financing via religion and they do it at a worldwide level

24   Vicente   2013 Apr 23, 9:11am  

dublin hillz says

muslims do plenty of financing via religion and they do it at a worldwide level

One thing I find interesting about Islam, they don't finance anything. Mosque being built down the street from where I lived, took forever and got built in stages. Because they only paid for it as they had money to do each phase.

You'd think this would appeal to the allegedly "fiscal conservative" live-within-your-means-peasants GOP. Yet it actually doesn't.

25   nope   2013 Apr 23, 9:29am  

Islam and conservatism aren't comparable. There are conservative and liberal Muslims.

The super far right crazy shit that Muslim extremists do is what the ultra conservative Christians would do if they weren't being held in check by liberals.

26   inflection point   2013 Apr 23, 12:05pm  

There are quite a few extreme and evil individuals out there. Lets just call evil what is. They should be eliminated like the rapid dogs they are.

27   thomaswong.1986   2013 Apr 23, 4:23pm  

Vicente says

One thing I find interesting about Islam, they don't finance anything.

You mean the "Petro States" since the 70s were NOT buying US Govt Bonds or
any other sovereign bonds.. and of course they were NOT investing into tech and non-tech
start ups ? where else have they putting their excess cash ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204791104577107733831343976.html

Twitter's Fit for a Prince -- Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bets $300 Million on Social Media

28   thomaswong.1986   2013 Apr 23, 4:31pm  

Kevin says

The super far right crazy shit that Muslim extremists do is what the ultra conservative Christians would do if they weren't being held in check by liberals.

since when ? 1750, 1850 or 1970? You chicken shit liberals havent been around that long.

your a product of the drug crazed numb nuts from the 60-70s.

29   jaldi1   2013 Apr 23, 4:50pm  

Did anybody to a scientific study to figure out why muslims always have problems everywhere they go. anywhere i see terrorism ,its highly likely that muslims are involved. india,burma,usa,afghanistan,pakistan,africa,europe,russia. you name it.
they are last in 20th century science and technology but number 1 in terrorism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations

30   Vicente   2013 Apr 24, 5:37am  

thomaswong.1986 says

You mean the "Petro States" since the 70s were NOT buying US Govt Bonds or

any other sovereign bonds.. and of course they were NOT investing into tech and non-tech

start ups ? where else have they putting their excess cash ?

You're talking about governments. I'm talking about Islam as an organized religion. You see any mosques borrowing money?

31   dublin hillz   2013 Apr 24, 5:51am  

Vicente says

thomaswong.1986 says



You mean the "Petro States" since the 70s were NOT buying US Govt Bonds or

any other sovereign bonds.. and of course they were NOT investing into tech and non-tech

start ups ? where else have they putting their excess cash ?


You're talking about governments. I'm talking about Islam as an organized religion. You see any mosques borrowing money?

They can't "borrow" in the sense that we do in mainstream america because they are forbidden to pay/charge interest - it is considered "haram". However, they still finance project via raising money from supporters such as wealthy governments and business people.

Even in other countries where paying interest is not prohibited, you will find that people utilize spend as you go approach where financin is not readily available. For instance in Mexico, it is quite common to first purchase land and then gradually build the house on that land as you earn money for each part of the house. Oftentimes, it may take many many years to build one. It is rather inefficient to a 30 year mortgage I would say since you live in tricked out diggz that are built from day 1 and then pay it back over time.

32   finehoe   2013 Apr 24, 6:50am  

thomaswong.1986 says

You chicken shit liberals havent been around that long.

Guess you've never heard of The Enlightenment, which isn't surprising.

33   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2013 Apr 24, 7:00am  

I find the views that some the leftists/mentally ill on Pat.net attribute to conservatives and Christians to be hillarious. If I didn't run into people like you IRL, I'd simply write it off to trolling.

34   thomaswong.1986   2013 Apr 24, 9:37am  

Vicente says

You're talking about governments. I'm talking about Islam as an organized religion. You see any mosques borrowing money?

I dont expect any religion borrowing money. ANY! but your comments once again were proven false..

finehoe says

Guess you've never heard of The Enlightenment, which isn't surprising.

Your not even close to it.. are you not adopting Adams Smith works on Capitalism ?

35   Moderate Infidel   2013 Apr 24, 10:44am  

jaldi1 says

Did anybody to a scientific study to figure out why muslims always have problems everywhere they go. anywhere i see terrorism ,its highly likely that muslims are involved. india,burma,usa,afghanistan,pakistan,africa,europe,russia. you name it.

they are last in 20th century science and technology but number 1 in terrorism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations

Funny how Christianity and Islam are sons of Judaism but Christianity and Islam hate their father. All three are useless and need to go away from sane society.

36   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2013 Apr 24, 11:03am  

Moderate Infidel says

jaldi1 says

Did anybody to a scientific study to figure out why muslims always have problems everywhere they go. anywhere i see terrorism ,its highly likely that muslims are involved. india,burma,usa,afghanistan,pakistan,africa,europe,russia. you name it.

they are last in 20th century science and technology but number 1 in terrorism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations

Funny how Christianity and Islam are sons of Judaism but Christianity and Islam hate their father. All three are useless and need to go away from sane society.

Lol! Now that's a troll!

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