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The prequel: "Dash cam video shows the moments before South Carolina police shooting." Although the dash cam video does not excuse what happened later, it does establish the context: how these two imperfect people met that day, and how the situation began to deteriorate.

Call it Crazy says

And, none of them even touched on the question, how did a guy who was stopped for a broken tail light end up dead in a grassy field?

Uh, perhaps because we have a video that shows exactly how that happened. He was shot multiple times in the back and those wounds caused his death. I don't think that's really a question anyone is asking.

Call it Crazy says

Any chance, if Mr. Scott decided to sit in his car and follow the directions of the officer, he might still be alive today?

Any chance if you let an armed thug rape your family, you'd be alive today?

Call it Crazy says

Any chance, if Mr. Scott decided to sit in his car and follow the directions of the officer, he might still be alive today?

Any chance that if a police officer 20+ft away from him and under no threat whatsoever hadn't shot him in the back multiple times he might still be alive today?

Call it Crazy says

Well, that's certainly an equal comparison..

Literally a LOL,

Call it Crazy says

Dash cam shows moments before shooting of Walter Scott

Upon further review I have decided that the allegations that Mr Scott was a feeble runner have been exagerated.

Call it Crazy says

I can guarantee he wouldn't have been shot in the back if he was sitting in the seat of the car!

Which isn't the point. Did the police officer have cause to shoot him? That is the point. And I know you are just trolling on this issue. You saw the video. The man was shot down without justifiable cause and then the crime scene was tampered with. If that was your child who had been shot, then you wouldn't be on here making your irrelevant arguments. Why should it be any different if it's someone else's son, someone else's father?

Call it Crazy says

I'll leave you with one additional piece of the puzzle, you do know that it is a felony to commit assault and battery on a police officer, right?

And the actions of the police officer have been considered deserving of prosecution for murder by the justice system, and he has already been sacked by his own police department. Presumably they know more about the circumstances of what happened than you or I, though the video is more than sufficient to realize that the man was gunned down without justifiable cause.

Bigsby says

Any chance, if Mr. Scott decided to sit in his car and follow the directions of the officer, he might still be alive today?

Two things must happen for a crime to take place: 1) a criminal must be present, and 2) there must be an opportunity to commit a crime. In this particular case, Mr Scott unknowingly gave the opportunity to commit crime to the criminal disguised as a police officer and that criminal took the opportunity.

Alpo, it was CIC that said that, not Bigsby. I'm sure Bigsby would appreciate a correction.

some white collar crime does not require presence...

alpo says

Two things must happen for a crime to take place: 1) a criminal must be present,

Blind obedience to armed authority is a recipe for disaster. The police are accountable to the citizenry, not vice versa. These are public servants. The one thing that will save this and any country is a citizenry that will stand up for its rights, and not blindly obey. A country that is ruled by criminals (e.g. Hank Paulson, Robert Rubin, Jon Corzine) has no law.

So if I understand this correctly, the real problem is that it's currently illegal to off a thug that's running away from the police.

Does Vegas offer an 'over/under' on child support payment delinquencies?

this is the commonality between all these sensationalized shootings.

Call it Crazy says

Also, running from authority, resisting arrest and physically assaulting ARMED authority is a recipe for disaster.

zzyzzx says

So if I understand this correctly, the real problem is that it's currently illegal to off a thug that's running away from the police.

The issue of who is the thug is up for discussion, but yes, fleeing suspects may only be shot if they are deemed to pose a threat to others. I suppose the deceased SC victim could have posed a threat to other partners when he stopped paying child support.

If that guy had gotten a vasectomy in time, he would still be alive today.

Obligatory:

Or perhaps an extreme makeover:

Call it Crazy says

But, "he was a loving father of 4 children".

CIC-you are making a bigger idiot of yourself than you usually do. The bottom line is that a man was shot in the back multiple times while running/walking quickly away from a police officer. There is absolutely no rationale that can justify it. NONE. There was no imminent threat to anyone.

Call it Crazy says

That was a quote from your favorite MSM sources... Apparently shirking responsibility for child support for years is OK with your favorite liberal media sources..

Great job trying to shift the story to the deadbeat Dad. Do you ever think about why you are sticking up for a cop that shot an unarmed man that was running AWAY from him?

If being behind on child support is an executable offense, is it open hunting season on bankers? Dead or alive?

It's pretty obvious the cop is guilty and will be strung up accordingly.
However, that does not give the perp a free ride for initiating the sequence of events.
Put all the facts on the table. Then string up the cop.
Fuck being "PC"....

tatupu70 says

Call it Crazy says

That was a quote from your favorite MSM sources... Apparently shirking responsibility for child support for years is OK with your favorite liberal media sources..

Great job trying to shift the story to the deadbeat Dad. Do you ever think about why you are sticking up for a cop that shot an unarmed man that was running AWAY from him?

Call it Crazy says

tatupu70 says

Do you ever think about why you are sticking up for a cop that shot an unarmed man that was running AWAY from him?

Would you like to show ONE instance where I said that here in this thread?

Where you said what?

tatupu70 says

Do you ever think about why you are sticking up for a cop that shot an unarmed man that was running AWAY from him?

Because if all cops did that, we would have a lot less crime, and less people in prison too.

zzyzzx says

Because if all cops did that(*), we would have a lot less crime, and less people in prison too.

(*)THAT == shoot all fleeing suspects

Many right-wingers are insane. It is as simple as that. They have no morals, no understanding of justice, do not support the rule of LAW, and have no understanding what freedom is.

What does being behind on child support, have to do with the matter at hand?

it provides motive for the perp running away while in his car....MAYBE scuffling with the cop....and finally just trying to get the fuck out of there.
it completes the picture.
It gives a better understanding of why the events unfolded as they did from the perps perspective...

errc says

What does being behind on child support, have to do with the matter at hand?

errc says

What does being behind on child support, have to do with the matter at hand?

It's all Obama's fault!!!

errc says

What does being behind on child support, have to do with the matter at hand?

It speaks to the character of the summarily executed.

1) Pat.net member - an innocent victim of flagitious and rebarbative family law courts - owing back child support --> Respectable and completely justifiable (women are crap!)
2) Black dude in South Carolina behind on child support --> Repulsive disgusting bad father

Simple enough to understand.

tatupu70 says

CIC-you are making a bigger idiot of yourself than you usually do. The bottom line is that a man was shot in the back multiple times while running/walking quickly away from a police officer. There is absolutely no rationale that can justify it. NONE. There was no imminent threat to anyone.

Certainly not ~$7k in Child Support, the $18k is probably with penalties and interest. Wow, a guy on the margins couldn't always find employment - something Matriarchy I.H.L. run Courts don't care about.

Call it Crazy says

"I believe he didn't want to go to jail again," Walter Scott Sr. told TODAY. "He just ran away."

I don't want to go to jail either. Does that make it OK to shoot me in the back as I run away?

SoftShell says

it provides motive for the perp running away while in his car

wtf does that even mean? If I have a "motive" to run away, it's OK to shoot me?

Call it Crazy says

And you wonder why I call you an idiot?

No, I'm well aware of why you call me an idiot--it's your reflex action when you've been shown to be wrong...

Call it Crazy says

thunderlips11 says

the $18k is probably with penalties and interest.

How about back payments?

Call it Crazy says

His last payment was on July 20, 2012

What is the issue with reading comprehension here??

Let's see, guy hadn't made a payment since 2012, probably couldn't find a job. We aren't exactly short of unskilled black guys desperate for any kind of work. Probably the same reason his tailight was busted.

In the old days, if you kept your head down, they generally didn't fuck with poor people unless you were really unlucky and a white chick claimed you raped her after she came on to you. These days, poor people are target #1 for fees and fines - and they know they can't pay 'em back, so they get to impound their shit and sell it for even more money at auction, plus they still owe the fine, AND maybe go to private prison, which makes money for those gangsters too.

"I believe he didn't want to go to jail again," Walter Scott Sr. told TODAY. "He just ran away."

You seem to keep posting this, as if its some additional piece of information that adds to understanding the issue at hand. A piece of the puzzle that leads to more complete knowledge.

I dont give a shit if he had bags of crack and a gun. Lets assume the guy is the biggest piece of shit on the planet. Maybe he has a couple young girls locked up in a storage unit somewhere.

Do you still want the police shooting him eight times in The back as he slowly attempts to run away?

These days, poor people are target #1 for fees and fines - and they know they can't pay 'em back, so they get to impound their shit and sell it for even more money at auction, plus they still owe the fine, AND maybe go to private prison, which makes money for those gangsters too.

Thanks, bill clinton!

errc says

"I believe he didn't want to go to jail again," Walter Scott Sr. told TODAY. "He just ran away."

BLACK! BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK!

In conclusion: Black.

Shoot 'im, boys!

Hanging around some of these idiots too much might be making me stupid, but i still dont understand why his back child support is being made an issue. When the cop goes to trial, will the jury be instructed to consider that information?

Cept taint splain that,,,,Says law