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87   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 27, 3:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@marcus, I wondered whether even to reply to your comment below, but I will reply here rather than push your dishonest thread that you admit was another example of you trolling:

marcus says
Actually, I have to admit that curius2 is right about one thing, that it was a troll. I thought I would try your technique (what you constantly with the word liberals) with Trump supporters. If I understand your response, is it to defend that the protesters aren't neo nazis ?

But yeah the connection to Trump supporters was a total troll. I don't remember the last time I posted a total troll post, it was probably years ago.. Hell, even my regular comments aren't that frequent anymore.

curious2 says
show an emotional obsession with attention/ignorance


I see you can't miss a chance after all these years to spew your hate and inability to forgive me for the couple times I politely corrected intellectual mistakes you made. Sad. But thank you for at least not constantly stalking me like you used to. At least you've learned to control those impulses a little.


I would really appreciate seeing even one example where you "politely corrected intellectual mistakes" that I supposedly made. To the contrary, your comments on PatNet including in this very thread show that you have repeatedly exploded emotionally with baseless insults, profanity, and lies, and demonstrated a failure to comprehend math and logic for example the rules governing ordinal numbers and significant figures. Nobody would bother stalking you, and I have not, but you have repeated that lie for years, even as you used a separate browser to follow my comments while pretending to ignore me. If you can find an example of what you claim, please re-post it.
88   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 27, 5:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
people are not evolved to perceive objective reality; people are evolved to believe whatever illusions enable them to survive and reproduce, and those tend to involve agreeing with the tribe.


Great quote. Had not seen that one before, but it gets to the center of politics.

curious2 says
In the USA, major parties function similarly to TV networks, aggregating audiences and selling them to corporate sponsors. If you watch the evening "news," you can see a series of misleading stories promoted by public relations firms, interspersed with advertisements for products that would probably make you worse off.


Another great insight. To a large degree, public opinion is created by PR firms, which themselves are very careful to hide in the background. Since there is so little independent journalism these days, it's pretty easy for them to hide.

And it's not just the evening news. Sadly, the NY Times, WaPo, and NPR are also full of stories that our owners want made into "truth", like the deliberately fabricated Russia story. And there is almost complete silence on stories that our owners don't want us to see, like Saudi and Qatari sponsorship of worldwide Islamic terrorism.
89   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 27, 5:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Great quote. Had not seen that one before, but it gets to the center of politics.


Scott Adams wrote it a few different ways in his Dilbert blog, before he switched to vlogging (which I don't watch).

"In a rational world it would be obvious that Trump supporters include lots of brilliant and well-informed people. That fact – as obvious as it would seem – is invisible to the folks who can’t even imagine a world in which their powers of perception could be so wrong. To reconcile their world, they have to imagine all Trump supporters as defective in some moral or cognitive way, or both.

As I often tell you, we all live in our own movies inside our heads. Humans did not evolve with the capability to understand their reality because it was not important to survival. Any illusion that keeps us alive long enough to procreate is good enough.
"

Adams links to Donald Hoffman's theorem on why humans are not evolved to perceive reality:

"Given an arbitrary world and arbitrary fitness functions, an organism that sees reality as it is will never be more fit than an organism of equal complexity that sees none of reality but that is just tuned to fitness."

For example, Muslims tend to have more children than atheists. Muslims are neither more intelligent (statistics say they are on average less intelligent) nor better at perceiving reality, but Islam tunes them to evolutionary fitness (reproduction and killing rivals). The western welfare state is particularly vulnerable to getting taken over by such demographics, because the disadvantages of Islamic dysfunction become less relevant.
91   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 21, 2:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

tatupu70 says
embassy after he came on the promise of getting a marriage license....


@tatupu70 / LeonDurham / JoeyJoeJoeJr, where did you read that Jamal Khashoggi went to the KSA embassy to get a marriage license? He was not in the embassy, and KSA had not promised him a marriage license, so I am curious where you got your misinformation.
92   tatupu70   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 21, 6:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
@tatupu70 / LeonDurham / JoeyJoeJoeJr, where did you read that Jamal Khashoggi went to the KSA embassy to get a marriage license? He was not in the embassy, and KSA had not promised him a marriage license, so I am curious where you got your misinformation.


lol--I went back and edited the post to say Consulate rather than Embassy and "papers so he could obtain a marriage license" instead of marriage license.
94   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 21, 3:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
where Islamic law allows men a unilateral right to divorce paying only 130 days of spousal support.


Hey that's something worthwhile adopting from over there for once ;)
95   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 21, 3:10pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
curious2 says
where Islamic law allows men a unilateral right to divorce paying only 130 days of spousal support.


Hey that's something worthwhile adopting from over there for once ;)


I have commented previously that we should really encourage certain people to praise Islam. The guy convicted of sexual assault at Stanford? He should convert to Islam, which would have required 4 witnesses to convict him. There were only 2 witnesses, so he should demand acquittal saying his conviction violates his right to religious freedom. Even the President could talk about how much $$$ he would have saved if he could have divorced his wives the Islamic way: 130 days of spousal support, then nothing. Let TDS do the rest: OrangeManBad praised Islam? Islam must be bad!
96   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 24, 8:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
Let TDS do the rest: OrangeManBad praised Islam? Islam must be bad!


97   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 24, 8:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

tatupu70 says
lol--I went back and edited the post to say Consulate rather than Embassy and "papers so he could obtain a marriage license" instead of marriage license.


Speaking of the Chinese, I know who will really be donating to the Dems going forward!
98   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 28, 1:49pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I'm an avid newshound but totally missed this.

New York: Arab driver gets out of car to assault elderly Jew crossing street, screams Allah Akbar.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6276297/Livery-cab-driver-kept-shouting-Allah-beat-Brooklyn-Jewish-man-way-synagogue.html
99   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 28, 1:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Still on Twitter and Paypal has not refused service to twitter, either.

100   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 28, 6:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

This is the Judeo-Bolshevik that edits the Forward, the dirty Red Witch.
102   tatupu70   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 28, 7:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Did you miss this one? I sure did:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/photographer-dies-6-months-after-taking-beating-in-alleged-racial-attack-prosecutors


Amazing. MSM is quoted to prove that MSM doesn't cover a news story.
103   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 28, 7:51pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

tatupu70 says
Amazing. MSM is quoted to prove that MSM doesn't cover a news story.



Funny, I don't remember CNN or MSNBC saying "Rabid Anti-Semitism in America: Hassidic Man Brutally Beaten by Middle Easterner" and making it top news.

Bad for the narrative.
104   tatupu70   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 28, 8:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Funny, I don't remember CNN or MSNBC saying "Rabid Anti-Semitism in America: Hassidic Man Brutally Beaten by Middle Easterner" and making it top news.

Bad for the narrative.


Have you watched every story on MSNBC and CNN? Do you remember every one?

I imagine there is a lot you don't remember....
105   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 28, 8:04pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

tatupu70 says
Have you watched every story on MSNBC and CNN? Do you remember every one?

I imagine there is a lot you don't remember....


So, there's a hate crime in broad daylight and it's barely reported? Pretty odd, eh?

We all know if it was a White Dude beating a Jew, it would be the story of the week at least. And blamed on Trump to boot.
106   tatupu70   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 28, 8:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

So, there's a hate crime in broad daylight and it's barely reported? Pretty odd, eh?


Was it barely reported?
107   tatupu70   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 28, 8:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It was probably a false flag anyway. Did you check the guy's twitter account?
108   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 28, 8:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

tatupu70 says
It was probably a false flag anyway. Did you check the guy's twitter account?



I wish Slate would. They read all Bowers tweets but ignored the ones where he damned Trump (and his supporters, as well as "Q") as a Jew Stooge.

But somehow they "Forgot" to mention that in their hit piece.
109   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 21, 6:08am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
I am a never Trumper for the simple reason that he is a uncivil, stupid and a liar . The main reason is that he is stupid.


@Tim Aurora, you posted this in a thread about a different topic, but I wanted to ask you about it, so I am replying here. IRL, a friend who can't stand being contradicted keeps calling the President an "idiot," and I can't understand why. Perhaps you could explain? What makes you believe the President of the United States, who earned a degree from Wharton and succeeded in almost everything he ever set out to do, including beating more than a dozen candidates for the Presidency who were mostly desperate to win, is (in your opinion) "stupid"?
110   APHAman   ignore (8)   2018 Nov 21, 6:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

and succeeded in almost everything he ever set out to do

O’Really?

Did he intend to go bankrupt running casinos and investing in Manhattan Real Estate?
111   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 21, 7:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APHAman says
Did he intend to go bankrupt running casinos and investing in Manhattan Real Estate?


Did he go bankrupt?
112   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 21, 4:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says


@HEY YOU, I am trying to understand your use of this meme in the context of your recent comment history. Little help?
113   Evan F.   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 21, 6:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
a friend who can't stand being contradicted keeps calling the President an "idiot," and I can't understand why. Perhaps you could explain?

Can verify. Trump is kinda dim. Genial, shrewd, and has a big personality, but not really intelligent. If you don't think Papa Fred got him into all those fancy pants schools then you're fooling yourself.

Look, he's certainly not stupid, and it's not like he has Downs Syndrome, but at some point his 'successes' have clearly transcended his level of intelligence. And that's actually fine: it's perfectly acceptable to not be terribly bright and still be in charge of a large institution or corporation, it happens all the time. I'd wager George W. was a good deal dumber than Trump. Reagan was not only an academic lightweight but was probably putting his daily briefing in the White House refrigerator for the last two years of his presidency. Obama is a pretty smart guy and I know how many of you feel about him, but he still ran the show for 8 years and look, we're still here. Clinton is actually brilliant- a Rhodes Scholar- and things seemed to generally be run the way any democratic president would run things. Meh.

Point being, your academic abilities, while helpful, really only mean so much. The presidency is a lot more than that, plus it's equally important who surrounds and supports you in the administration.

But yeah, Trump isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Have lots of friends from Apprentice that could back that up.
114   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 21, 6:36pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan F. says
Trump is kinda dim. Genial, shrewd, and has a big personality, but not really intelligent.


Can you distinguish between "shrewd" and "intelligent" for me?

First definition I found says shrewd is "Characterized by keen awareness, sharp intelligence, and often a sense of the practical."

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Did you miss this one? I sure did:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/photographer-dies-6-months-after-taking-beating-in-alleged-racial-attack-prosecutors


I did miss that one.

Let's see, Muslim black man murders Jewish white man. (Assuming Muslim from the name Jamil and the Mohammedesque beard.)

Muslim gets a point, black gets a point, man loses a point: net +1
Jewish gets a point, white loses a point, man loses a point: net -1

By the liberal math of victimhood, such a story must be relegated to a small article on the back pages if reported at all.
115   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 21, 7:56pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan F. says
Can verify. Trump [is] shrewd....

Look, he's certainly not stupid.... I'd wager George W. was a good deal dumber than Trump.


BTW, W holds degrees from Yale and Harvard. You can say he got help getting in, but he had better grades at Yale than John Kerry. If you didn't graduate from Oxford, Cambridge, or MIT, then I don't see how you could call him dumb.

I don't understand why some people insist on calling other people "stupid," "idiots" (IQ below 26), "dimbulbs," or "retarded" when those labels are plainly false. Marcus calls almost everyone he disagrees with a dimbulb, including @CBOETrader, who succeeded in the exact profession where Marcus admitted having failed. (Full disclosure: Marcus has also called me "retarded", and deleted a whole thread where I had proved him wrong about a rule of math, which he claims to teach.) It seems to reflect a sort of willful ignorance, stubbornly refusing to consider the possibility that intelligent people can disagree and even be wrong.

I think it harms debate and public discourse, because people retreat into their echo chambers where the "other" side is always "stupid" instead of having anything worthwhile to say. It becomes an excuse for people to shout slogans at each other instead of trying to reason together.
116   Rin   ignore (3)   2018 Nov 21, 7:57pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
Yale than John Kerry.


Both John Kerry and Al Gore Jr are morons. Gore, after Harvard undergrad, flunked out of Vanderbilt Law.
117   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 22, 10:24am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Calling Trump stupid is just another form of "orange man bad".

And what we should care about is results and Trump has been more effective at getting good results than any other president in our lifetimes.

The reduction in nuclear tension with N. Korea alone is a major accomplishment which has made us all safer. Every American should be grateful for that at the very least.
118   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Nov 22, 7:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
I don't see how you could call him dumb.

Bush has admitted deliberately dumbing down his language addressing the electorate. He routinely demonstrated an extremely stunted knowledge particularly in vocabulary. His ilk demonstrates the knowledge that intellect is going to be a turn off and therefore to be avoided at all costs when persuasion is the intent.

So yeah he was stupid as fuck to us. Damn! How come you missed that? Did your religious belief get in the way?

“They” all know that we have been intellectually hobbled and BTW they are not done yet bringing us down. Why? Maximum ROI. This is a “people farm” we are property to be cultivated for maximum returns. We lost a huge amount of leverage when globalization opened the entire planet as not only workers but customers too.

So “they” don’t need us to consume like they did after WWII. So this country will never get back under control again because the pigs don’t really need us very much. E.g. if you need health insurance to “them” you are better off dead.

E.g. 2 “they “ are never going to lose any ROI over the subject of global warming because they knew about it as far back as the 1970’s/ 1980’s and they got themselves situated with mountain-resort homes with private airstrips, catering, special banking facilities and heightened security forces too. —Get it? It’s you, not them that is going to die.

WTF is going on here? Either I am a raging apostate or this is the capitalism that you and every good slave believes in. You were indoctrinated that there’s nothing better on earth and that greed is good and not one of the seven deadly sins that those assholes 4000 years ago claimed.

ALSO BTW they were struggling the same back then too but they didn’t have mass media to make everyone so fucking stupid back then. No, they had religions that bred rebellion and so they made a state religion to make sure that their people were under control.
119   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Nov 22, 8:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Calling Trump stupid is just another form of "orange man bad".

“orange man bad”, such a concise, crisp, memorable epithet. I love it.

You used to be so skeptical of realtards too. What happened?
120   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 22, 9:02pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So leftoids are advocating that stupid people and retards should never have any meaningful jobs but if you express your opinion supported by facts that men and women are different or illegal and unskilled immigration is bad, or oppose gay marriage or don't address xir by xeir preferred pronoun, then you should be fired for discrimination or even prosecuted. Can't make this shit up even if one wanted to.
121   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Nov 22, 9:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
So leftoids are advocating ...

Are you sure you understand what was said?

You just painted me a right wing nut!
122   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 23, 1:20am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Are you sure you understand what was said?


I had been wondering the same about your comment. I asked @Tim Aurora a simple question. I asked politely and reasonably. You are not even Tim Aurora, and yet you responded with an irrelevant rant assuming all sorts of things about me, e.g. this:

jazz_music says
You were indoctrinated that there’s nothing better on earth and that greed is good and not one of the seven deadly sins that those assholes 4000 years ago claimed.


You also acknowledged that W had deliberately spoken persuasively, and essentially outsmarted his audience including you, and yet you call him "stupid." As noted above, W got better grades at Yale than John Kerry. If W is "stupid", what does that make you? Did you go to Yale, and if so, how did you do there?
123   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 23, 1:52am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Let's see, Muslim black man murders Jewish white man. (Assuming Muslim from the name Jamil and the Mohammedesque beard.)

Muslim gets a point, black gets a point, man loses a point: net +1
Jewish gets a point, white loses a point, man loses a point: net -1

By the liberal math of victimhood, such a story must be relegated to a small article on the back pages if reported at all.


In the NY Metro Area in the past few weeks:

Elderly Hassidic beaten by Muslim Cab Driver
Black Teens assault pre-pubescent Hassidic Boys, then vandalize the Temple
Black College Student and Orphan adopted by the City Council, and who stayed with a Jewish Couple, who was studying AA at Brandeis, free ride, also Vandalized a Temple.

I'm sure it had nothing to do with Islam or Farrakhan's latest rants.

The Good News is that the Women's March is being outed, while th eorganization issued an apology, Linda Sarsour issued a "Not-pology' on Facebook later.
124   APHAman   ignore (8)   2018 Nov 23, 6:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
So leftoids are advocating that stupid people and retards should never have any meaningful jobs but if you express your opinion supported by facts that men and women are different or illegal and unskilled immigration is bad, or oppose gay marriage or don't address xir by xeir preferred pronoun, then you should be fired for discrimination or even prosecuted. Can't make this shit up even if one wanted to.


Can’t make this shit up?

Reality check time. It’s all made up. The nonsense you speak on is not reality. It’s a make believe world you’ve decided to be manipulated into stressing over. Every. Single. Day. 24/7
125   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Nov 23, 10:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@curious2 I assume you are the product of the American educational system where everybody is indoctrinated that greed is good and that there’s no better system on earth. I may be out of line assuming that about you, if so please disregard the entire remark.

BTW America is also manipulated into blind obedience primarily by inducing fears while being indoctrinated that we are all brave and free. Even more basic a key to societal control is that authority holds the moral high ground and that meritocracy really exists.

Admittedly my comment is a rant. No other part of my comment assumes anything additional about you that I can see so I don’t know what you mean by “all sorts of things.”

I did ask you how could you miss that you were being talked down to, which any member of any electorate should find deeply insulting.

W was “stupid as fuck to us” is what I said. I explained he was that way to us deliberately. This is insulting to me on another level, it is a demonstration of our being unable to to receive a modicum of respect from our leader who is supposedly elected not to use his power to be triflingly dismissive of us all.

We have lost much in the last 40 years, by the power of systematically broadcast lies we have been made to stand still while losing so much financial stability that we have also lost relevance to our representatives, and as I sit on the sidelines with a retirement business this upsets me greatly enough to rant against the broadcasters.

Consider we may even have lost relevance to the oligarchy who has a lot of workers and consumers in developing nations. They apparently still need us to keep making baby policemen and soldiers for them, other than that the rest of our nation is induced to produce a few whip crackers and a lot of slaves. Rich kids seem to distinguish themselves with advanced degrees working for low pay in premium locations, some returning to run the family business empire or attaining celebrity status in some field.
126   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Nov 23, 11:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

E@curious2 you are welcome to defend your educational attainment and ranking but consider you will be browbeaten here in perpetuity over any little thing you happen to reveal about yourself. Any little thing at all.

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