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Congress Woman Jackie Speier Says That Donald Trump Will Resign When Faced With An Impeachment Indictment..Will Vice-President Pence Also Face Impeachment?


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2017 Aug 5, 7:00am   15,813 views  56 comments

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Donald Trump likely to resign before Congress can impeach him, says senior Democrat
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Jackie Speier, who represents California's 14th Congressional District near San Francisco, said the probe into Russian meddling 'could get very muddy very quickly': Getty
Donald Trump would resign before Congress is able impeach him, a senior US representative has said, as pressure mounts over his team's alleged links to Russia.

Jackie Speier, who sits on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said attempts by the President to pardon members of his family or fire the man appointed to investigate Russian meddling in last year’s presidential election could trigger an impeachment vote.

“I have always thought that he was never going to fulfil his full term,” she said.

“I am more convinced that he will leave before any impeachment would take place.”

On Friday it emerged that the special counsel appointed to investigate Russian meddling in the 2016 vote, Robert Mueller, was using a grand jury – suggesting his probe was entering a new, more serious, phase.

The move piled further pressure on the President, whose seven months in office have been dogged by accusations that his team worked with Russia to swing the vote.

Speaking on Radio 4’s Today programme, Ms Speier said: “I do think the potential for the House to start to think in terms of impeachment is not outside the realm of possibility.

“It is not something that would be happening any time soon but if the President were to act precipitously at any of these situations, pardoning his family members, taking actions to try and get rid of Mr Mueller, I think those would be tipping points and could end up in the House calling for impeachment.”

In order for Mr Trump to be impeached, a simple majority (50 per cent plus one representative) is needed in the House.

A trial would then take place in the Senate, where a two-thirds vote is needed to remove him from office.

Ms Speier said the current makeup of the House of Representatives meant only 24 Republicans were needed to join with Democrats in order to pass an impeachment vote.

Describing the similarities between the Mr Trump and Richard Nixon, who resigned following attempts to impeach him, as “stark”, she said the investigation into the incumbent president “could get very muddy very quickly”, adding: “You can’t make this up, that is what is so mind boggling.”

Mr Mueller was appointed special counsel in May by the justice department following the firing by Mr Trump of FBI director James Comey.

He has since assembled a team of more than a dozen investigators, including current and former justice department prosecutors with experience in international bribery, organised crime and financial fraud.

News of the grand jury came as senators introduced two bills aimed at protecting Mr Mueller from being fired by Mr Trump, with both parties signalling resistance to any White House effort to derail the investigation into Russian meddling in last year's election.

Mr Trump's defence team has been looking into potential conflicts of interest among members of Mr Mueller's team, such as past political contributions to Democrats including Hillary Clinton.

Mr Trump has warned that any effort by Mr Mueller to look into his finances would fall outside the scope of Mr Mueller's appointment.

Related:

Trump calls Russia investigation a ‘total fabrication’

During a rally in Huntington, W.Va., on Thursday, President Trump continued his criticism of and disdain for the federal investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election, telling the cheering crowd that the probe is a “total fabrication.”

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2   Tenpoundbass   2017 Aug 5, 7:45am  

Liberal Cum would you like a cigarette Oliver?

3   Tenpoundbass   2017 Aug 5, 7:46am  

Russia, Iran and China bombs the fuck out of us, IF and that's a big IF, Trump doesn't put a foot up all of their asses if that were to happen.

We're in Peril times, the first country with a power vacuum gets the bombs.

4   Tenpoundbass   2017 Aug 5, 7:52am  

Quick question. How come Liberals respect Mudro's work down in Venezuela putting the hammer down on Coup attempts?

5   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2017 Aug 5, 2:00pm  

she'll prolly get hit by a bus before Trump resign.

6   curious2   2017 Aug 5, 2:39pm  

ohomen171 says

Will Vice-President Pence Also Face Impeachment?

Sadly, MSM and TDS have driven many Democrats to embrace Pence, a mistake almost as irrational as their embrace of Islam. Even though Pence is in every way worse than W, I have friends IRL who say, "He is the Vice President we have." He is being packaged and presented, and scheming to take over. That would be a disaster for America.

7   HEY YOU   2017 Aug 5, 6:34pm  

President Ryan!

8   Y   2017 Aug 5, 7:35pm  

Pence was the plan all along.
1. Run a luvvable dunce who will quickly disqualify himself
2. Install the unelectable vp as p
3. Celebrate the inability of the donkeys to comprehend 37 dimensional chess ..

9   anonymous   2017 Aug 5, 8:08pm  

OP - please explain why you want President Trump (and he is indeed your fucking President, legitimately) to be impeached?

what is it that's in your mind, that you didn't have propaganda'd there by the elitist MSM and leftover democrat-moulded NSA/CIA?

i am still completely amazed by people in the very minority who think that their positions/opinions are vastly more important and significant than other US citizens who voted for trump, and are very satisfied with him as president so far.

10   Tenpoundbass   2017 Nov 4, 9:58am  

anonymous says
“I don’t know if Hillary Clinton lost the election on her own,” Trump said. “Maybe she asked the Russians to help her lose. But the fact is, Hillary Clinton deliberately plotted to put me in the White House, and the American people should be very angry about that.”


Sometimes Trump says things that makes people parse it, so they can not understand it better. But fully grasp the gravity of the situation.
People Red Pill themselves by trying to conflate Trump's truth's with Liberal fantasy.
11   Tenpoundbass   2017 Nov 4, 10:00am  

And Oh Oliver how's that idle threat working out for the Liberal Ass clown show?

Where's your Zeal and moral Outrage in light of Dona Brazile's book?
Are you a real Honcho or a Sear's Honcho?
12   anonymous   2017 Nov 4, 10:18am  

Anyone who digs Borowtiz is a card-carrying soy latte limp wrist libshit.
13   Ceffer   2017 Nov 4, 6:38pm  

Where would we be without self anointed liberal oracles. Maybe we should burn incense and make sacrificial offerings.
14   RWSGFY   2017 Nov 5, 7:39am  

Any second now.....
16   CBOEtrader   2017 Dec 7, 4:54pm  

this is pure ohomen171 says
Donald Trump likely to resign before Congress can impeach him


I feel bad for the brain damaged losers who believe this dribble.
17   Goran_K   2017 Dec 7, 5:01pm  

I will challenge ANY leftist here to a $1000 bet right now cash.

I will bet that the DNC loses more senate seats from NOW until the end of 2018 and Trump is still in office. If that occurs, you pay me $1,000 cold hard cash. If Trump resigns before 2018, and the DNC gains seats, I will pay you $1000. If Trump doesn't resign and the DNC gains seats, then it's a wash and no one gets paid.

I think this is a fair bet. Any leftist that wants to put their money where their mouth is, let me know. We can go up to $5,000, but I kept it at $1,000 to make sure anyone could bet.

A lot of loud mouth leftist on MSM and various communities talking a lot of bull shit.
18   CBOEtrader   2017 Dec 7, 5:08pm  

Goran_K says
We can go up to $5,000


I'll take Goran's side of this bet as well for $20,000.

OFC no-one actually believes the OP, its just trolling sprinkled with TDS.
19   Goran_K   2017 Dec 7, 6:13pm  

Yup a lot of people wanting to troll but when it comes to the truth, and nothing speaks the truth like someone’s wallet I’ve found, all I hear from leftist is a whole lot of crickets.
20   CBOEtrader   2017 Dec 7, 6:53pm  

Zero chance Trump resigns.

80% chance R's gain more seats than D's.
21   Y   2017 Dec 7, 7:06pm  

Not if he performs a 180 degree torso rotation when confronted...
ohomen171 says
Will Vice-President Pence Also Face Impeachment?
22   anonymous   2017 Dec 7, 8:58pm  

CBOEtrader says
Zero chance Trump resigns.


Zero chance?? OK then giving me 1 to 1000 odds should be free money for you.

I bet $20 to your $20,000 that Trump is impeached or resigns before the end of his first term. Deal?
23   Goran_K   2017 Dec 7, 11:16pm  

anon_80a5e says
CBOEtrader says
Zero chance Trump resigns.


Zero chance?? OK then giving me 1 to 1000 odds should be free money for you.

I bet $20 to your $20,000 that Trump is impeached or resigns before the end of his first term. Deal?


I’ll give you 1 to 5 at $5000 right now. Let’s do it.
24   missing   2017 Dec 8, 8:28am  

Goran_K says
I’ll give you 1 to 5 at $5000 right now. Let’s do it.


So you think the chances of impeachment are less than 20%? My estimate (I admit, without much thought going into it), is around there too - between 10 and 20%. Since I don't gamble (i.e. I only play when the odds are in my favor), I am willing to take bets with 1 to 10 or better odds. Of course the size of the bet is also adjusted based on the odds.

(the anon_80a5e comment above was mine)
25   Goran_K   2017 Dec 8, 8:42am  

FP says
So you think the chances of impeachment are less than 20%? My estimate (I admit, without much thought going into it), is around there too - between 10 and 20%. Since I don't gamble (i.e. I only play when the odds are in my favor), I am willing to take bets with 1 to 10 or better odds. Of course the size of the bet is also adjusted based on the odds.


I'll do 10 to 1 at $1,000. I pay you $10,000 if Trump resigns in 2018 or you pay me $1,000 if he doesn't. I'll go as high as $2,000 if you want.

Game? We can get an agreement signed ASAP.
26   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Dec 8, 8:59am  

Goran. Did you mark comment 27 as uncivil? Why is that uncivil?
27   missing   2017 Dec 8, 9:32am  

Goran_K says
if Trump resigns in 2018


Why 2018? I wrote resign or is impeached (removed from office) before the end of his term. 2018 is too soon. These things take time to develop.
28   anonymous   2017 Dec 8, 9:50am  

There's a market for this type of betting. The odds are such that anyone who believes that Goran would actually pay up can make easy money on arbitrage. You would have to believe that Goran is honest, though. So, if nobody takes the bet, that means that either nobody thinks that Goran is honest or nobody wants a free $2K. I'm going with the former option.

How the hell is this uncivil?

Patnet went from a Free Speech forum to a Safe Space for The Special Snowflakes in a few months. Yuck
29   RC2006   2017 Dec 8, 10:06am  

Can't believe democrats are still raving on and on about Trump since the second he was elected. Why were they not going crazy over things that were far worse from the Bush's, Clinton's, or Reagan?
30   anonymous   2017 Dec 8, 10:45am  

errc says
There's a market for this type of betting. The odds are such that anyone who believes that Goran would actually pay up can make easy money on arbitrage. You would have to believe that Goran is honest, though. So, if nobody takes the bet, that means that either nobody thinks that Goran is honest or nobody wants a free $2K. I'm going with the former option.

How the hell is this uncivil?


He's calling Goran dishonest, that's a personal attack and uncivil.

Based on your posting history, you have a problem understanding personal attacks. The current Comment jail is proof of that.
31   anonymous   2017 Dec 8, 10:46am  

Goran_K says
FP says
So you think the chances of impeachment are less than 20%? My estimate (I admit, without much thought going into it), is around there too - between 10 and 20%. Since I don't gamble (i.e. I only play when the odds are in my favor), I am willing to take bets with 1 to 10 or better odds. Of course the size of the bet is also adjusted based on the odds.


I'll do 10 to 1 at $1,000. I pay you $10,000 if Trump resigns in 2018 or you pay me $1,000 if he doesn't. I'll go as high as $2,000 if you want.

Game? We can get an agreement signed ASAP.


I'm a "rightist" but might be interested in this - but I will insist both my 1k and your 10k are held in escrow. Interested?
32   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Dec 8, 11:36am  

anon_6a51a says
He's calling Goran dishonest, that's a personal attack and uncivil.

I asked Goran himself why it was put in jail and stays in jail. He has not responded. I did not call him dishonest, although I did say that I believe that most posters are more likely to think he is not honest than the other option, which is that they don't want a couple of thousand in easy arbitrage money.

Goran_K says

I think this is a fair bet. Any leftist that wants to put their money where their mouth is, let me know. We can go up to $5,000, but I kept it at $1,000 to make sure anyone could bet.

A lot of loud mouth leftist on MSM and various communities talking a lot of bull shit.

Goran implied that leftists will not put their money where there mouths are, which implies that they are full of shit and do not even believe the crap that they are spewing. I think that my response called him on it with about as much civility as he was displaying. This is a good example of how the rules are enforced selectively and arbitrarily. As I keep saying: the hammer is biased.
34   CBOEtrader   2017 Dec 8, 9:14pm  

anon_6a51a says
He's calling Goran dishonest


He's also lying. Where is there a market wherein you can sell the Trump-to-be-impeached trade for more than 10%? Prove me wrong, cause I'll go there and lay into that risk.
35   anonymous   2017 Dec 8, 10:00pm  

CBOEtrader says
Where is there a market wherein you can sell the Trump-to-be-impeached trade for more than 10%? Prove me wrong, cause I'll go there and lay into that risk.


Wow. Even CBOE thinks there's only a 10% chance that Trump will not be impeached. That's a little low I'd say, even to many liberal gamblers.
37   CBOEtrader   2017 Dec 8, 10:15pm  

anon_08dee says
CBOEtrader says
Where is there a market wherein you can sell the Trump-to-be-impeached trade for more than 10%? Prove me wrong, cause I'll go there and lay into that risk.


Wow. Even CBOE thinks there's only a 10% chance that Trump will not be impeached. That's a little low I'd say, even to many liberal gamblers.


No, I think there's zero chance he's impeached.
38   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Dec 9, 5:42am  

https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/betting/politics/international/us-elections/donald-trump-specials/225147663/
The odds for Trump "To Leave Office Via Impeachment Or Resignation Before End 1st Term" are listed as even right now. If you bet that he doesn't resign by end of term at ladbrokes for $1K, and then place $1K down that he does resign with Goran, then you break even at worst or win $4K if he does resign. If you bet $3K at Ladbrokes that he doesn't resign and $1K with Goran that he does, if he does resign, you win $2K ($5K-$3K). If he doesn't resign, you win $2K ($3K at ladbrokes - $1K with Goran). It's a guaranteed $2K winning. Who wants a free $2K. I've shown you exactly how to do it.
39   Goran_K   2017 Dec 9, 8:23am  

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/betting/politics/international/us-elections/donald-trump-specials/225147663/
The odds for Trump "To Leave Office Via Impeachment Or Resignation Before End 1st Term" are listed as even right now. If you bet that he doesn't resign by end of term at ladbrokes for $1K, and then place $1K down that he does resign with Goran, then you break even at worst or win $4K if he does resign. If you bet $3K at Ladbrokes that he doesn't resign and $1K with Goran that he does, if he does resign, you win $2K ($5K-$3K). If he doesn't resign, you win $2K ($3K at ladbrokes - $1K with Goran). It's a guaranteed $2K winning. Who wants a free $2K. I've shown you exactly how to do it.


I don’t see where it says even odds for him resigning. Can you show me the specific betting link? I will bet $25,000 right now and post my bet receipt for all to see.
40   anonymous   2017 Dec 9, 8:26am  

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
Who wants a free $2K. I've shown you exactly how to do it.


Show us your bet that you placed.
41   anonymous   2017 Dec 9, 8:26am  

CBOEtrader says
He's also lying. Where is there a market wherein you can sell the Trump-to-be-impeached trade for more than 10%? Prove me wrong, cause I'll go there and lay into that risk.

https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/betting/politics/international/us-elections/donald-trump-specials/225147663/
The odds for Trump "To Leave Office Via Impeachment Or Resignation Before End 1st Term" are listed as even right now. If you bet that he doesn't resign by end of term at ladbrokes for $1K, and then place $1K down that he does resign with Goran, then you break even at worst or win $4K if he does resign. If you bet $3K at Ladbrokes that he doesn't resign and $1K with Goran that he does, if he does resign, you win $2K ($5K-$3K). If he doesn't resign, you win $2K ($3K at ladbrokes - $1K with Goran). It's a guaranteed $2K winning. Who wants a free $2K. I've shown you exactly how to do it.

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