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indc saysGood that you are an atheist, I am an atheist too.
But only religion that recognizes atheism is hinduism.
How is that possible with 300 million Gods? You must be talking about Buddhism. It has no God. It's the most peaceful of major religions.
Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism, but as I don't believe in reincarnation, I would make a rotten Buddhist.
I would admit, Hinduism is a much better religion than the Abrahamic religions. The worst part of Hinduism is the caste system, which comes close, but not close enough to slavery that Abrahamic religions endorsed.
Quigley saysLow caste Indians tend to convert to Christianity in fair percentages. Lots of incentive!
They also converted to Islam in large numbers historically, resulting in Pakistan and a large Muslim population still in India.
Apologists for Islam do have the point that there is no caste system in Islam. A Pakistani friend pointed out that that's only in theory though, and that the Arabs of Saudi Arabia and neighboring countries have nothing but contempt for darker-skinned Muslims.
If you’re not Indian, your “caste” is effectively nothing, the lowest caste. That’s why almost nobody converts to Hinduism. Aside from having to believe in a bunch of silly looking gods, you’d be signing up to be the lowest class of Hindu society. Much better to be and stay a foreigner.
Oh and yes, uppity Indians of higher castes will back off if you call them out.
Low caste Indians tend to convert to Christianity in fair percentages. Lots of incentive!
indc saysDo you guys even know what is caste? Is your knowledge about caste from "english authors"? Its not low caste hindus who convert to christianity. It is uneducated hindus who convert to christianity. They are gullible and believe all the shit missionaries preach.
The real reason they convert is to be an equal, and not be treated as a low caste. Why would anyone want to live as an inferior being when they can live as an equal?
I think any low caste Hindu who does not convert is gullible to believe they are inferior and low caste. They should convert to any other religion, preferably to none, but definitely not to Islam.
Regarding your comment "uppity indians of higer caste". Dont be a dick. It is not higher caste, its higher class
indc saysRegarding your comment "uppity indians of higer caste". Dont be a dick. It is not higher caste, its higher class
This is the fundamental cultural divide between Americans and Indians. The Indian immigrants I’ve known have been universally obsessed with status and class, and their pursuit of such is annoying as fuck to native born Americans. They’re unabashedly interested in self promotion, self aggrandizement, and selfish agendas. They have to make sure everyone knows of their accomplishments and anyone who is famous they have some connection to or just pestered into doing a selfie with at a concert or speaking engagement.
To Americans this is LOW CLASS behavior.
To Indians, this is them trying to assert that they are high class. And in this, they fail.
I am not questioning your observation. I am questioning your use of terminology "caste". Its negative connotations is what I want you to understand.
Quigley saysIf you’re not Indian, your “caste” is effectively nothing, the lowest caste. That’s why almost nobody converts to Hinduism. Aside from having to believe in a bunch of silly looking gods, you’d be signing up to be the lowest class of Hindu society. Much better to be and stay a foreigner.
Oh and yes, uppity Indians of higher castes will back off if you call them out.
Low caste Indians tend to convert to Christianity in fair percentages. Lots of incentive!
Do you guys even know what is caste? Is your knowledge about caste from "english authors"? Its not low caste hindus who convert to christianity. It is uneducated hindus who convert to christianity. They are gullible and believe all the shit missionaries preach.
If you think christianity is so great convert a strong believer with arguments. Not a poor person with bribes.
Internet is full of people who...
I don't think it's the same thing. I live in Princeton, and the rich white assholes just bitch and moan behind you while you are in line. The Indians will try to walk right in front of you like you don't exist.
Islam is a failed experiment. Countries where Islam is dominant are at least 150-200 years behind Western Society.
After white men left them destitute it will take some generations to get back their humanity and surpluses.
indc saysAfter white men left them destitute it will take some generations to get back their humanity and surpluses.
@indc Please don't blame British colonialism on, say, Irish people, who suffered at least as much as the Indians.
"White" is not a useful term to distinguish people.
Patrick saysindc saysAfter white men left them destitute it will take some generations to get back their humanity and surpluses.
@indc Please don't blame British colonialism on, say, Irish people, who suffered at least as much as the Indians.
"White" is not a useful term to distinguish people.
I too dont like to use the term "white" it is too generic, but India was looted not just by british, It was also looted by dutch, french and portugese. What term do you suggest I use?
Thanks.
Strategist saysBuddhism treats them better.
Quite a lot of low-caste Indians did became Buddhist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Buddhism_in_India#Dalit_Buddhist_movement
The worst thing about anyone converting to a different religion is, you end up jumping from one sinking ship to another.
We've covered how Al-Kwarzimi was a converted Persian Jew translating HINDU systemic algebra into Persian and Arabic (and from thence into Latin).
Yeah, thats what the Hindus say too. You can stay in the Universe, you can study it, you can find out different ways in which the universe manifests itself in (1 god, 300 million gods, etc), or you can ignore it (become an athist), but you can't convert in and out of an all encompassing universe. Concept of conversion is absent from Hinduism and such "modern" antics are seen as futile, embarassing, and and a distraction. One is better off spending their energies on more serious and sincere pursuits like following their native belief system rather than fooling around with Conversion. If by chance your not happy with your native path, then don't worry about it, just pick up any path or a mix of paths, or none at all and just life your life sincerely, just don't worry about it (conversion crap) too much. All paths to god are equally good, don't waste time switching lanes. There is always another life to figure out things if this one doesn't work and we are all in this in-escapable journey...
(Even now, smarter Egyptians tend to be Christian, and are persecuted in a more lethal version of the dumb jocks persecuting the smart but weak nerds.)
What term do you suggest I use?
I too dont like to use the term "white" it is too generic, but India was looted not just by british, It was also looted by dutch, french and portugese. What term do you suggest I use?
To add a little balance, we should point out that these invaders tended to unify their subject countries by suppressing regional rivalries. And so India was unified by the British just like Ireland was. And then India split along religious lines just like Ireland once the British Empire was weakened.
Let me give you an example so that you will understand those so called "upper caste hindus" you are talking about.
Lets say there are 40 people in line and the vendor says there are only 30 items he can sell. This keep happening everyday for 20 days and the rich guy is 35th person everyday, What will the "rich white asshole" do on 21st day?
It is not the culture that turns people into line cutting assholes. Its the scarcity of things that causes people to behave like that. After white men left them destitute it will take some generations to get back their humanity and surpluses. The second generation does not behave like this because they dont know what is living with limited resources does to their psyche.
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indc saysWhat term do you suggest I use?
@indc How about "foreign invaders"? That would include, say, the Mughals, who devastated India.
To add a little balance, we should point out that these invaders tended to unify their subject countries by suppressing regional rivalries. And so India was unified by the British just like Ireland was. And then India split along religious lines just like Ireland once the British Empire was weakened.
You think british unified India?
It was british who split India on religious line.
But british bastards are on another level.
indc saysYou think british unified India?
Yes. That's what Indians say.
indc saysIt was british who split India on religious line.
It was the Muslims.
indc saysBut british bastards are on another level.
Man you are full of hate. You would make a good Muslim. Ever considered joining ISIS? Their new recruiting motto:
"Out with the bang, and in with the virgins"
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indc saysLet me give you an example so that you will understand those so called "upper caste hindus" you are talking about.
Lets say there are 40 people in line and the vendor says there are only 30 items he can sell. This keep happening everyday for 20 days and the rich guy is 35th person everyday, What will the "rich white asshole" do on 21st day?
It is not the culture that turns people into line cutting assholes. Its the scarcity of things that causes people to behave like that. After white men left them destitute it will take some generations to get back their humanity and surpluses. The second generation does not behave like this because they dont know what is living with limited resources does to their psyche.
I appreciate the analysis, but I'm not convinced. IMO, It has nothing to do with scarcity. Their cart is full and they are already in posse...
What's the matter with you ppl on this thread?!
This isn't some anti-Hindu forum!
What's here and now is a bunch of crazy muslims, killing ppl left and right, and you guys are fighting over religious ideologies.
No religion, country, ideology, organization, opinion, politician, celebrity, or God will be spared.
Strategist saysNo religion, country, ideology, organization, opinion, politician, celebrity, or God will be spared.
Wrong, we need allies in this fight against Muslims. As an American, I don't care for a man's faith provided that he's against the proliferation of Islam.
But british bastards are on another level. They tried to kill the spiritual strength of India. Even with muslims ruling India was number one country in regards to GDP. But british were at different level.
Buddhist and Hindu philosophy has always been fascinating and eye opening. I do see it's philosophy thriving over time.
I wonder what philosophy Islam uses, besides Jihad, Martyrdom, and violence.
Wrong, we need allies in this fight against Muslims. As an American, I don't care for a man's faith provided that he's against the proliferation of Islam.
Strategist saysBuddhist and Hindu philosophy has always been fascinating and eye opening. I do see it's philosophy thriving over time.
I wonder what philosophy Islam uses, besides Jihad, Martyrdom, and violence.
If you are trying to say that Christians haven't wrecked and perpetuated large-scale violence in the name of religion, I find it difficult to believe.
They are not at all perfect, but the religion and culture that lags progress from all others, that is the most dangerous, is Islam. It's a serious problem that must be solved, and our greatest barrier to solving those problems are the liberals who won't even recognize the problem.
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When I was studying in Ann Arbor, there was a Kuwaiti woman downstairs from me who kept an Indian slave. There is no other way to describe it. The poor slave woman was not allowed to leave the apartment, ever, and was very badly treated. Very timid. The Kuwaiti was a domineering entitled bitch. So this article sounds quite familiar.