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"He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. "He then accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker across the street that I believe saw all of it."

Shellie Zimmerman tells her father on the call to get behind a car. "I don't know if he's going to start shooting at us or something," she says in the call.

She should have shot him under Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. She perceived he was a threat to her life. That's grounds for killing in Florida.

"Iraq is in crisis." But the oil was freed up. Can't win 'em all.

freak80 says

Everyone knows it was U.S. agents who carried out the initial gas attack in order to justify yet another (profitable) war.

Kept trying till they got it right. Remember that Obama was blaming Assad for the March gas attack, but the UN said it wasmthe rebels. Needed more cowbell.

Facebooksux says

David Losh says

Blurtman says

He looks like a moron.

Sorry, but the win goes to Obama.

Our Middle East policies have been irrevocably altered by Obama.

Putin put in his two cents, God bless him for it, and that is as far as it went. We already beat the crap out of Russia.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Vlad is playing chess. Obama can't figure out the rules for checkers. The russians have painted Obama into a diplomatic corner. If he attacks now, he acknowledges how full of shit he is.

Putin eats Obummer every morning for breakfast.

It is in the US interest and Russia's to secure the chemical weapons. Punishing Assad for using them is not the end game, it is to get rid of/gain control of the chemicals weapons. There are plenty of Chechens fighting in Syria who would most dearly like to gas the crap out of Moscow. So there is a convergence of interests, somthing might come of this.

Bap33 says

I bet someone in Syria said the N word

Naggers: people who annoy you.

freak80 says

Bap33 says

I bet someone in Syria said the N word

Naggers: people who annoy you.

Hehe. Classic.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

A fucking iPhone pulled out a switch blade on me this morning and I returned the attack with a sustained burst of Gatling gun fire, wasting 131

Good.

Seems like these phones always get away with it.

Facebooksux says

Iraq is in crisis. It is a failed state, over 1000 people were killed in June. Same thing with Libya and Egypt. None of those places have been a win for the US and none is anything to brag about.

Yeah, Revolution is messy. The United States carried on war here for 100 years before we settled down. We killed millions of people in the process. WE had many atrocities, some of the worst the world has ever seen.

We set the path for them to govern themselves, like they have a thousands of years before we, or Europe existed, so I think they will figure it out much better than we did.

mell says

Putin eats Obummer every morning for breakfast.

Putin is an interesting want to be, who wrestles bears for breakfast, and flies with the birds in the afternoon.

He is no military threat, because his own people won't let him do anything but talk.

That is a totally different topic.

freak80 says

yet another (profitable) war.

There's no profit in Syria, any more than there was profit in Iraq. We are simply returning control of the region to itself, which should have been done long ago.

It seems like it.
But if Obama pulls this off and actually gets the chems away from assad, with no hidden stashes still in his possession, he's gonna be looking like the second coming of Gandi.
In the face of
* Longtime US allies going against his will ( UK )
* Major opposition from his own party, not to mention congress as a whole
* Overwhelming non-support from the public

It took Bush practically his whole term to attempt to disarm Saddam of his chems...( not found, but it is unknown if he hid them well, or just moved them to syria/lebonon ) at the cost of hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives.

If Obama pulls this off, he would have disarmed the country with the most chems without firing a shot....

We will see...
mell says

Putin eats Obummer every morning for breakfast.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

A fucking iPhone pulled out a switch blade on me this morning and I returned the attack with a sustained burst of Gatling gun fire, wasting 131 foolishly over curious bystanders but taking out a Clear and Present danger to my life and to general public.

You think that's bad. Some angry birds got into my phone and started assaulting nearly defenseless pigs!

rdm says

It is in the US interest and Russia's to secure the chemical weapons. Punishing Assad for using them is not the end game, it is to get rid of/gain control of the chemicals weapons. There are plenty of Chechens fighting in Syria who would most dearly like to gas the crap out of Moscow. So there is a convergence of interests, somthing might come of this.

Why should Syria get rid of chemical weapons when a violent aggressor with nukes is on its border?

Blurtman says

Why should Syria get rid of chemical weapons when a violent aggressor with nukes is on its border?

The "violent aggressor" has already shown on several occasions that Syria's chemical weapons are not a deterrent. This civil war has, contrary to the fondest dreams and wild hallucinations of the numerous conspiracy theory nuts that frequent P.Net, very little to do with said "violent aggressor"

Overvalued doesn't necessarily mean a bubble.

It's not a bubble if people are crying "bubble." That's not how markets work. It'll be a bubble when everyone is saying "house prices can only go up" again.

We're well on our way to becoming Mexico (if we're not there already) thanks to the policies of both parties since 1980.

I'm all ears if someone can suggest a better method for reversing this trend than raising taxes on high incomes and investments.

control point says

I'm all ears if someone can suggest a better method for reversing this trend than raising taxes on high incomes and investments.

The fox brainwashing strikes again. You don't raise taxes on investments, you raise taxes on the profits from investments.

control point says

I'm all ears if someone can suggest a better method for reversing this trend than raising taxes on high incomes and investments.

I don't see how it can be done if you still want the high-earners to keep all their compounding wealth. It is a zero-sum game, you can't even out the inequality if you leave all the wealth with the top 0.1%.

So, basically you are saying that Mexico's income distribution is desirable?

leo707 says

So, basically you are saying that Mexico's income distribution is desirable?

Basically I am asking how it can be accomplished without raising taxes.

bob2356 says

The fox brainwashing strikes again. You don't raise taxes on investments, you raise taxes on the profits from investments.

Or you raise them on investments.. asset taxes....

Which would be more effective at lowering income inequality? A higher tax on the income from investments, or a tax on the value of the investment itself?

Inflation does not happen in a vacuum. In your example, rents would not increase unless the rent paying consumer has more money to pay for rent. Inflation is a trailing indicator of a strengthening middle class.

Limit intellectual property rights. Minimum wahe increases. Increase union membership. Many ways to skin the cat.

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Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999:

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Tuesday, September 10, 2013 __ Level is 97.0

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes indeed, go here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

Pop quiz for APO.
Fill in the blank- "Why do they hate _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ?" lol

Hmmm. I hadn't thought about what the actual reason might have been for Zimmerman or others who tried to destroy the ipad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-chief-zimmermans-wife-wont-press-charges-even-though-she-said-he-threatened-with-gun/2013/09/09/ac73bba4-19b8-11e3-80ac-96205cacb45a_story.html

Every law, rule, statute, regulation, policy and procedure which created income inequality has been authorized, approved, and endorsed by Congress.

Who is to blame, the people who benefited from the laws created by our government, or is government to blame?

Honest Abe says

Who is to blame, the people who benefited from the laws created by our government, or is government to blame?

The people who hired the government to do their bidding.

You know those people who have reaped trillions from the laws, rules, statues, regulations, and policies that have created income inequality.

Honest Abe says

Who is to blame

Who owns the government ?

Remember corporations are people. Very very wealthy people.

Honest Abe says

Who is to blame, the people who benefited from the laws created by our government, or is government to blame?

Dishonest Abe catches Al Capone bribing a beat cop. A REAL American, he'd slap Capone on the wrists meanwhile whispering in his ear an offer for fellatio in exchange for employment as shoeshine boy. Then he'd slap the cop in stocks for a few days before executing him for his venal crime.

Why can't y'all be more like Dishonest Abe, he's a sharp cookie!

So as long as income inequality gets worse, should we be having new bubbles according to your thesis on how bubbles are created?

“As of right now, we’re waiting on the iPad as the last piece of the puzzle,” Lake Mary police spokesman Zach Hudson said.

Without the video or some other piece of independent evidence, legal experts said it will be hard to build a case because Shellie Zimmerman changed her story about her husband threatening her with a gun and decided not to press charges.

That's a damn shame. I saw video today shot from the FIL's front yard video surveillance camera, and it didn't show any gun waving, or knifing of the iPad, George just tossed it aside.
From what I could see, if he was trying to render it useless he would have slammed it a lot harder on the ground than he did.

Shelly should be arrested for using the police as a weapon. Dirty rotten whore.

Vicente says

Honest Abe says

Who is to blame, the people who benefited from the laws created by our government, or is government to blame?

Dishonest Abe catches Al Capone bribing a beat cop. A REAL American, he'd slap Capone on the wrists meanwhile whispering in his ear an offer for fellatio in exchange for employment as shoeshine boy. Then he'd slap the cop in stocks for a few days before executing him for his venal crime.

Why can't y'all be more like Dishonest Abe, he's a sharp cookie!

But he has a valid point. The American citizens voted for the bailouts and continued crony capitalism and war mongering. Didn't vote for Ron Paul? Well, there is the problem.

bgamall4 says

People are learning, learning about the plan for Israeli world takeover.

I don't know what you smoke, but I really want some. Would the Israeli world takeover be before or after the NZ world takeover?

mell says

Didn't vote for Ron Paul?

No, I didn't vote for that particular Libertopian stooge. Proud of it, why change one white water boy for the MIC & FIRE industries, for another one? His list of top donors says it all:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00005906

CaptainShuddup says

Shelly should be arrested for using the police as a weapon. Dirty rotten whore.

You got all that from the video ? Wow.

The police say the ipad is in a dozen pieces, so I guess she must have done that.

You have a point though. I guess we know that Zimmerman doesn't have any problems controlling himself or his temper, even though he did throw a girl that one time when he was a security officer, and he did have this type of incident with his fiance before, and he did assault a cop once years ago, and of course he did shoot and kill Trayvon Martin.

I guess he's one of those people who just have a lot of crazy crazy drama constantly following them in their life, in spite of how much they have their shit together.

Oh wait, I forgot, there are no such people.

Vicente says

mell says

Didn't vote for Ron Paul?

No, I didn't vote for that particular Libertopian stooge. Proud of it, why change one white water boy for the MIC & FIRE industries, for another one? His list of top donors says it all:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00005906

You must be looking at a different list than me. Close to zero banks/TBTFs in there, instead producing companies and the military personnel, which is not surprising, as they want good benefits for their veterans instead of being sent into illegal and useless wars. Overall the contributions he received from corporations (even the defense companies) are tiny compared to the 2 lamestream candidates (tweedledee obummer and tweedledum mittens) , instead he got a lot of individual donations from grassroots movements. This list is a strong endorsement for Ron Paul and speaks for itself! You should try not to waste your vote and give it to true change for once. You can always go back to tweedledee and tweedledum if you get disappointed ;)

Even if in a bubble, nobody know when and at what price level the bubble would burst.