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40250   John Bailo   2013 Dec 11, 11:32am  

Home Sale Prices In Las Vegas Drop
Realtors Association "Not Worried"
December 10, 2013 8:41 AM

The latest numbers from the Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors show a 1.1% dip from October to November where the average price tag on a house was $183,000.

Total home sales dropped from October to November as well as year-over-year.

The month-to-month drop was 16.2% with just over 2200 homes sold last month. That’s a 17.9% slide compared to November of last year.

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/home-sale-prices-in-las-vegas-drop/

40251   HydroCabron   2013 Dec 11, 12:03pm  

Whole lotta people have falsely accused this poor man, for many years: niece, cops, co-workers, police, ex-fiancé, ex-wife, girlfriend.

They must have known he was going to be famous some day, so they falsely accused him to grab some for themselves.

40252   Ceffer   2013 Dec 11, 12:17pm  

He must be one of them weird sin eater dudes you see on Sci Fi.

If she dropped the charges, does that mean he gets sex for free again?

40253   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 11, 12:21pm  

Ceffer says

If she dropped the charges, does that mean he gets sex for free again?

sure works for Charlie Sheen... seems he still banging his ex wives...

40254   waiting_for_the_fall   2013 Dec 11, 1:23pm  

Redfin, which has a more accurate count, shows 2905 homes listed for sale (not including land).
The properties listed for sale do not include cloud inventory: homes held off the market by banks, waiting for prices to rise or homes that underwater borrows can't sell.

I don't know what the total would be if all vacant homes were put on the market and am not sure where you could get that information. There is no central database that includes all of that information...yet.

40256   mell   2013 Dec 11, 1:32pm  

Eric Holder says

justme says

Chirp. Chirp. Chirp. The silence is deafening here.

Still working on these civil rights violation charges... Gonna get the kreepy-azz kraka any moment now.

Gotta love that fast and furious eric place-holder!

40257   mell   2013 Dec 11, 1:35pm  

Call it Crazy says

justme says

But I severely disapprove of false accusation of domestic violence or any other crime

Yet, there were many people here that had him convicted of it and put away for 100 years when that story first broke in the media....

I wonder what they will say now???

Not only that, even if there was anything to it, it's completely irrelevant. How anyone could focus on GZ trying to follow and convict him with such fervor and for so long is completely bananas.

40258   upisdown   2013 Dec 11, 7:48pm  

Too funny, just like Sarah Palin, Zimmerman is a victim and 'misunderstood'.

GZ is a POS bully who will continue to display the same type of behavior that he has up until now. FYI, just because the gf wants the charges dropped, doens't mean that the state will. Judges get pretty pissed about listening to a petition for an OP from some woman, only to have the summons served on the male at her residence, and then come to court WITH the male to tell the judge to drop the OP. Not only that, it's a violation of the OP, just as her retracting(or admitting to giving a false statement to the police/investigating agency)her previous complaint. The state charges, and the state decides whether to prosecute, or not.

Shitbag-abusers like Zimmerman attract and prey upon weak people/women that allow the abuse to continue, or outright blame themselves for their own abuse.

40259   upisdown   2013 Dec 11, 8:06pm  

Here's the contact info for all thank-you's and complaints:

Home > Iowa Information > Washington, DC office Print .Grassley Washington, DC Office

Mailing Address

135 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
(202) 224 - 3744
Fax: (202) 224-6020

http://www.grassley.senate.gov/iowa/Washington-DC-office.cfm

40260   tatupu70   2013 Dec 11, 8:59pm  

justme says

Ahem, and I quote myself:

http://patrick.net/?p=1234352&c=1026966#comment-1026966

I'm not convinced at the moment that Zimmerman is guilty of domestic violence. The whole case seems a bit fishy.

And this from a guy that is quite convinced that Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin.

I never in a million years would have thought I would be defending George Zimmerman. But I severely disapprove of false accusation of domestic violence or any other crime.

Now, if only the authorities could find some new evidence against Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, at least there could be a civil case against him.

Before you knock yourself over patting yourself on the back, consider that it is very common for woman to get cold feet when accusing their boyfriends.

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/abuse/a/Why-Do-Domestic-Violence-Victims-Recant.htm

I don't know what happened, but I don't think her decision not to prosecute is an indication that he's innocent..

40261   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2013 Dec 11, 9:26pm  

People STILL continue to make facts up regarding this guy. Good lord, he's been investigated by local and federal agencies, found not guilty in court, had it confirmed that witnesses against him are lying, and yet he still walks as a free man.

He must be some crazy criminal genius to keep outsmarting all these people and getting away with murder and DV.

40262   tatupu70   2013 Dec 11, 9:30pm  

dodgerfanjohn says

He must be some crazy criminal genius to keep outsmarting all these people and getting away with murder and DV.

lol--Does the name OJ Simpson ring a bell?

40263   Y   2013 Dec 11, 11:09pm  

Another case of leftest enforcers intimidating witnesses to fulfill the left's wet dream of hanging zimmerman, innocence be damned...

Call it Crazy says

Hmmmm... Looks like the story changes........ Again....

40264   Y   2013 Dec 11, 11:11pm  

Everyone on this site that tried and convicted poor George.

Call it Crazy says

I wonder who should be charged with a crime NOW???

40265   HydroCabron   2013 Dec 11, 11:14pm  

If Zimmermann is convicted, companies will just pass the cost onto consumers, and we'll all end up paying more for products.

40266   Y   2013 Dec 11, 11:14pm  

Given the amount of forum capital expended on proving george guilty in the trayvon case, only to be proven wrong about his guilt, it's become a lifelong trek for these folks to try to salvage whatever is left of their online reputation.

mell says

Not only that, even if there was anything to it, it's completely irrelevant. How anyone could focus on GZ trying to follow and convict him with such fervor and for so long is completely bananas.

40267   Y   2013 Dec 11, 11:16pm  

It's all about rule of law.
One side gets it, the other abhors it.

dodgerfanjohn says

He must be some crazy criminal genius to keep outsmarting all these people and getting away with murder and DV.

40268   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 12, 12:11am  

I wonder if he got his guns back?

Yosemite Zimmerman

40269   Iwag   2013 Dec 12, 12:44am  

hey guys back in december 2011 i predicted that obama would still be president on this very day

call me Nostradamus, i should get my own tv show

40270   Iwag   2013 Dec 12, 1:14am  

total liar

you claimed there was 1 week of inventory in san mateo now you are back tracking like the liar you are

all liars use the same tactics

40271   Iwag   2013 Dec 12, 1:25am  

patrick.net/?p=1234779

liars exposed

40272   Iwag   2013 Dec 12, 1:30am  

just read the thread liar

everyone else can read it and see what a liar you are

40273   upisdown   2013 Dec 12, 1:50am  

dodgerfanjohn says

People STILL continue to make facts up regarding this guy. Good lord, he's
been investigated by local and federal agencies, found not guilty in court, had
it confirmed that witnesses against him are lying, and yet he still walks as a
free man.

That was for killing T Martin. And if he "still walks as a free man" it's because he posted bond, and he was charged with a felony and was awaiting trial.

Were the charges against GZ dropped? I really don't know but it seems that every right winger has GZ as priority 1 in their life, including you.

40274   HEY YOU   2013 Dec 12, 2:20am  

Let me change the topic from the "personal attack" comments.
If anyone pays more than 10% of listing price they might be a IDIOT.

40275   ttsmyf   2013 Dec 12, 8:52am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Thursday, December 12, 2013 __ Level is 100.7

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

40276   FunTime   2013 Dec 12, 9:09am  

Strategist says

How can that be possible with a rising population?

Because population doesn't rise evenly. "Boom"
Besides, it's hard to get excited about rising population as a driver of demand. That has been happening for a long time which would suggest unchanging demand and is only slowing down in recent decades.

40277   Strategist   2013 Dec 12, 11:25am  

What a bull. I could hope for nothing more.
Real Estate is in full recovery mode. With inventories falling at a rapid pace prices of homes can only go up. How high they jump will probably be determined by loan availability.
Home builder stocks in my opinion will outperform home price increases.

40278   New Renter   2013 Dec 12, 12:22pm  

Strategist says

They all have to live somewhere.

And work, unless they are independently wealthy.

40279   Reality   2013 Dec 13, 12:22am  

bgamall4 says

Reality says

Just like the mushrooming of Americans on disability (not actually disabled) due to government policies

Prove it. You can't assume that statement is true. Maybe more of the disabled are applying for the benefits than in the past.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/disability-usa/

40280   Reality   2013 Dec 13, 12:27am  

bgamall4 says

Strategist says

I personally believe our standard of living will keep getting better over the decades, and the average consumer will have a much higher purchasing power, benefiting real estate the most.

That assessment is fundamentally flawed. Wages will decline for years to even the playing field internationally. And if property does not fall in the same way at the same rate, most people will be royally screwed.

That assessment may not be correct. The "leveling" may have already taken place, and is about to flow backwards. The very high real estate prices in India and China make it highly unlikely that their wages can stay low for long, and they have been experiencing double-digit annual wage increases in recent years. There is transportation cost and management overhead associated with outsourcing.

40281   bob2356   2013 Dec 13, 12:37am  

Mark D says

boomers have to live some where. they aren't going to move out of their big houses and live in their cars.

prices for small homes will go up. rents will go up and drive prices for small homes to go up even more.

btw, they like warm weather so buy in CA, FL, and AZ.

Prices for retirement villages, group homes, and assisted living will go up, way up.Most people retire to protected gated communities with amenities and services, not ordinary houses in towns. Look at south jersey or south florida (pre insanity and crash). The retirees barely affect the house prices outside the gates. Invest big in companies providing for seniors.

You forgot Texas, one of the larger retiree states.

40282   bob2356   2013 Dec 13, 12:43am  

Reality says

That assessment may not be correct. The "leveling" may have already taken place, and is about to flow backwards. The very high real estate prices in India and China make it highly unlikely that their wages can stay low for long, and they have been experiencing double-digit annual wage increases in recent years. There is transportation cost and management overhead associated with outsourcing.

The leveling will continue. The huge multinational corporations will be arbitraging the cost of labor forever. China and India will simply lose out to the next place that provides the lowest cost Tons of manufacturing is moving to Vietnam right now. Watch for Burma to be next if the government there truly stabilizes with parts of Africa in the on deck circle. There's always someone poorer and more desperate.

40283   epitaph   2013 Dec 13, 1:03am  

No predictions about teachers unions? You are slipping.

I'm also predicting a homophobic FortWayne comment.

40284   Robert Sproul   2013 Dec 13, 1:15am  

Wealth disparity is a symptom of the corporate takeover of our systems of governance.
The coup d'etat is a done thing. The future is plain if you just use other countries, more advanced in this process, to understand how existing trends extend and accelerate.
Gated Communities…..now with armed guards and armed private patrols.
Armed security at all public shopping venues geared to the economic elites.
Separate, and privatized, EVERYTHING for the elites, security, transportation, schools, food sourcing.
The service class resides in a buffering ring around elite enclaves.
The entire rest of the country is abandoned, to blame themselves and do-the-best-you-can-while-you-starve in urban and rural slums. Quietly please, losers.

All this is current day in Sao Palo or Lagos

The American Favelas will first be abandoned and then reoccupied, for profit, using technology, drones and urban warfare tactics honed in the illegal resource wars of the last decade. (happening right now in the Camden Test Area http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/apocalypse-new-jersey-a-dispatch-from-americas-most-desperate-town-20131211)

As the empire collapses, due to the Senatorial Classes increasingly frenzied depredations,, the might of the US Armed Forces (and of course their corporate partners) will be brought home to fight at our our borders and to contain social unrest . The mechanisms are already in place with the creation of NORTHCOM (we did without a North American continental battle group for 200 years, well we have one now) NDAA indefinite detention and the tragic degradation of Posse Comitatus under the pretense of the hideously corrupt War on Drugs.
The American people are being acclimated now for intrusive search and destruction of personal sanctity. Young people today take for granted body search at the airport and stadium.

Roberto was a Cornucopian Fabulist. Robots! Thorium! Elon is going to build me a groovy car and Google is going to drive it for me!
The future is plain to see, if you can see past your normalcy bias and fears.

40285   bob2356   2013 Dec 13, 1:35am  

edvard2 says

Everything you just described is basically the system that has been in place of auto manufacturing since its inception. Its been long-established that auto manufactures will often use components that in many cases are used across their entire lineup of vehicles. We can dilly-dally about this all day long, but "modular engineering" in auto manufacturing is nothing that suddenly came about. As I mentioned before, the textbook definition of modular engineering is simply about the production of different components by separate entities to be used in a finished product. That's it!

Sorry, but you're still looking at the wrong end of the horse. The long established practice is to produce a component and engineer the platform around the component. The ford windsor engine you named is an example. The engineers drew up an engine then millions of cars were designed to take it. In today's world the engine space for the platform would be defined and new engines designed to fit in. Paradigm shift.

That's what is new and revolutionary, the components are engineered around a common set of platform standards that exist through the entire line. VW is probably the furthest along with this, but everyone is moving toward it. Again it's like plugging a computer card into a bus instead of designing a computer around a set of chips, which is how computers were built for many years. You really don't see the difference do you?

So all programming is about 0's and 1's. All cars run down an assembly line. Would you say the ford's original river rouge line pumping out model t's is the same thing as hyuda's incredible birmingham factory which is probably the most advanced in the world? Computers, robots, just in time, cad/cam, cnc milling, ,computerized metal forming, etc. etc. don't change the game it's all the same to you? Batch processing tapes with cobol (I actually did that) is the same as providing sophisticated online ecommerce like amazon for millions of people across the world? Sorry, I don't agree.

40287   Strategist   2013 Dec 13, 1:58am  

New Renter says

Strategist says

They all have to live somewhere.

And work, unless they are independently wealthy.

Most people come to California for the same reason they always came for.....economic opportunities.

40288   Reality   2013 Dec 13, 2:43am  

Why is land so expensive in Japan:

http://www.thejapanfaq.com/FAQ-Prices.html

Ask any Japanese why homes cost so much and you'll get the Standard Party Line: "Yes, Japan is a small country with very little land, blah, blah, blah." This of course is true. At 127 million people Japan has almost half the U.S. population in a land space that's a bit smaller than California. But that does not explain why a QUARTER of the Japanese population lives in or around Tokyo, or why the Shimane Prefectural government gave away land for free if you agreed to live there at least 6 mos. a year. The real reasons are found a bit deeper. In fact, most Japanese themselves, being completely apolitcal, are clueless on how their government or System functions. One of the biggest reasons why Tokyo is insanely expensive is because the government is based there. And Big Business is in bed with the politicians and bureaucrats. So if Big Business is based there, that's where all the best jobs are and where everyone wants to live. But there's more. Japan is one of the few nations in the industrialized world that has extremely light property taxes, but if you sell a home the tax is a killer 50%!!. This chokes off the supply of land and for the average Japanese worker owning a home will only be a dream. Some companies in fact have issued loans to buy a home where your children and then grandchildren, as of yet unborn, will finish paying off the mortgage. Land is also very expensive because floor space per square meter of land is artificially restricted by government regulations. Inheiritance taxes in Japan are even more devastating, so dying is a terrible thing to do to your family. Things got still worse in the "Bubble Era" of the late 80s to early '90s, which was a rampant speculative boom. Since then land prices and rents have fallen dramatically but the real causes have not been dealt with so the problem will not go away.

40289   edvard2   2013 Dec 13, 3:12am  

thomaswong.1986 says

GM is spending more and more of its taxpayer-enhanced cash pile to shore up its faltering foreign divisions. In fact, according to an analysis of GM’s SEC filings, the company is likely to incur over $6.5 billion in losses and expenditures overseas in the 2011-2014 period, not counting over $1.6b in foreign potential legal liabilities or several other incalculable expenses that could add up to billions more. Not only are these expenses a challenge to GM’s overall financial health at a time when it also faces billion-dollar expenditures on pensions in the US, it shows the basic problem with national bailouts of global companies.

While GM isn't doing as well in Europe, they're doing gangbusters in China, South America, and the middle east. They now sell more cars in China than in the US.
bob2356 says

That's what is new and revolutionary, the components are engineered around a common set of platform standards that exist through the entire line. VW is probably the furthest along with this, but everyone is moving toward it. Again it's like plugging a computer card into a bus instead of designing a computer around a set of chips, which is how computers were built for many years. You really don't see the difference do you?

Because there isn't really a difference here. Components designed for platform standards is nothing new. For example, if you flip open the hood of pretty much any Ford car, you're likely going to find the exact same overflow tank, washer fluid tank, AC compressor, and oodles of fasteners and hardware also used on the remainder of their model lineup. To delve back even further, well I have a classic myself. Its a big 55' Mercury four door. Despite its age it turns out Ford made basically the SAME brake drums for most of their full sized cars for decades. I was able to replace the original 1955 era drums on my car with drums from a 80's Lincoln town car.
The definition I'm referring to is the classic definition of modular design. It simply states that components are independently made in mass quantities to fit a final product and even though those individual components independently function, they together with the others collectively perform a task or set of tasks.

But I assume you and I will beg to differ, which is fine.
bob2356 says

Would you say the ford's original river rouge line pumping out model t's is the same thing as hyuda's incredible birmingham factory which is probably the most advanced in the world? Computers, robots, just in time, cad/cam, cnc milling, ,computerized metal forming, etc. etc. don't change the game it's all the same to you?

Yes- any newer car plant is going to be more advanced than the old Rouge plant in its model T days, but the original Rouge plant was in its day the most advanced manufacturing facility in the world. Yes- today we have robots, CNC machines, CAD design, and large quantities of automation. But at the end of the day both the more manual, less automated assemblyline of yore as well as today's most modern car plant still produces fully functioning cars, made out of many thousands of independently created components all assembled to work together.

So I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.

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