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John Bailo says

I really liked what Obama had to say about natural gas

True, but because of Obama, we are squandering natural gas on electricity generation which could be made from coal instead. We need to be using our natural gas in vehicles, not in our power plants.

Obama's speech was like getting a hand job from a pickpocket.

zzyzzx says

True, but because of Obama, we are squandering natural gas on electricity generation which could be made from coal instead.

Squandering? Hardly. If you've read more recent news the US has the largest supply of natural gas in the world. Literally 200-300 years worth of the stuff. At this point we barely have enough room to store what's being pumped out of the ground. Secondly, coal puts a LOT of heavy metals and pollutants into the air. Its a pretty dirty fuel. So in many ways this is why you're seeing more nat gas plants being built because not only is natural gas plentiful,but its cleaner too.

edvard2 says

Squandering? Hardly. If you've read more recent news the US has the largest supply of natural gas in the world. Literally 200-300 years worth of the stuff.

If we start using natural gas in cars, that 200-300 years supply drops dramatically.

edvard2 says

Secondly, coal puts a LOT of heavy metals and pollutants into the air. Its a
pretty dirty fuel. So in many ways this is why you're seeing more nat gas plants
being built because not only is natural gas plentiful,but its cleaner too.

And, China pays big bucks for that coal, so much that coal trains pass literally right by coal-powered power plants(that are soon to run on natural gas) so that the coal can be exportrd to China.

All this talk about Zionism prompted me to quote Wikipedia, just so we all here can enjoy the discussion further...

The common denominator among all Zionists is the claim to Eretz Israel as the national homeland of the Jews and as the legitimate focus for the Jewish national self-determination. It is based on historical ties and religious traditions linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel. Zionism does not have a uniform ideology, but has evolved in a dialogue among a plethora of ideologies: General Zionism, Religious Zionism, Labor Zionism, Revisionist Zionism, Green Zionism, etc.

After almost two millennia of existence of the Jewish diaspora without a national state, the Zionist movement was founded in the late 19th century by secular Jews, largely as a response by Ashkenazi Jews to rising antisemitism in Europe, exemplified by the Dreyfus affair in France and the anti-Jewish pogroms in the Russian Empire. The political movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in 1897 following the publication of his book Der Judenstaat. At that time, the movement sought to encourage Jewish migration to the Ottoman Palestine.

Although initially one of several Jewish political movements offering alternative responses to assimilation and antisemitism, Zionism grew rapidly and became the dominant force in Jewish politics with the destruction of Jewish life in Central and Eastern Europe where these alternative movements were rooted.

The movement was eventually successful in establishing Israel on May 14, 1948 (5 Iyyar 5708 in the Hebrew calendar), as the homeland for the Jewish people. The proportion of the world's Jews living in Israel has also steadily grown since the movement came into existence and over 40% of the world's Jews now live in Israel, more than in any other country. These two outcomes represent the historical success of Zionism, unmatched by any other Jewish political movement in the past 2,000 years. In some academic studies, Zionism has been analyzed both within the larger context of diaspora politics and as an example of modern national liberation movements.

Zionism also sought assimilation into the modern world. As a result of the Diaspora, many of the Jewish people remained outsiders within their adopted countries and became detached from modern ideas. So-called "assimilationist" Jews desired complete integration into European society. They were willing to downplay their Jewish identity or even to abandon their traditional views and opinions in an attempt at modernization and assimilation into the modern world. A less radical form of assimilation was called cultural synthesis.[citation needed] Those in favor of cultural synthesis desired continuity and only moderate evolution, and were concerned that Jews should not lose their identity. "Cultural synthesists" emphasized both a need to maintain traditional Jewish values and faith, and a need to conform to a modernist society.

zzyzzx says

If we start using natural gas in cars, that 200-300 years supply drops dramatically.

How do you come to that conclusion? Given that most power plants utilize extremely precisely made turbines versus the literally millions upon millions of cars in various states of maintenance all across the country?

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Wednesday, January 29, 2014 __ Level is 100.9

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

bgamall4 -

You got the first part right. Obama was sickening. You got the second part wrong. Obama was also the idiot.

Obama was fine. Naturally right wingers didn't think so. Surprise Surprise. Nobody cares what right wingers think anyway.

Everything bgamall4 is saying is completely correct, accurate and spot-on.

If you bother to check credible sources such as the Memoirs written by the elite themselves... (David Rockefeller himself admits to a lot of stuff.)

Along with doing very objective research on major institutions (Federal Reserve, IRS, Bank of England, JP Morgan, CitiGroup, HSBC, Barclays & Many others)...

You will come to conclusion that the US is not a country but rather a CORPORATION owned by private international parties.

The "citizens" are really just subsidiaries owned by the US corporation to be slaves.

Zionism has actually very little to do with jews except using them as pawns for a vested vendetta and agenda for purely private interests. Nothing in fact to do with religion. Although they veneer as such as merely a cover.

Hitler was in fact a secret bastard-child Rothschild son. He was funded by both Rockefellers, Rothschilds and many other private parties.

Majority of jews are in fact not guilty but a minority are.

In fact, the minority of jews use the majority of jews as just tools to further their interests. Nothing more, nothing less.

The reason why jews were mass murdered in the Hitler Regime was to give a reason on why it is now morally just today for them to steal Palestinian land and murder innocent civilians to increase the land of Israel.

Also the number of mass murders of jews was exaggerated. They were many deaths but not as many as they want you to believe. You can do your own independent research on this.

Problem, Reaction, Solution

Divide & Conquer

Fund All Sides of War

Control Education and Dumb it Down to Control Future Generations

Give Women All Rights But Men None to Destabilize Family Units

Welfare Nanny State & Big Brother Government

All globalist Zionist scumbag mantras...

And guess what? They've worked excellently on all you idiots!

They are many Jews who are actually protesting against Zionism.

The common insult by close-minded sheep given to people who speak against Zionism is that they must be anti-semitic.

Bgamall4 is really being unfairly disliked without critical objective analysis and open-mindedness.

Have you done your full research? Have you really digged deep into understanding major institutions, major figures and a TRUE clear accurate view of how things really get run in this world?

My bet is you haven't.

What bgamall4 conveying is not theory but rather fact once you really have the full research and have verified everything without a shadow of any reasonable doubt.

"Conspiracy THEORY" is a common phrase used by cowards as a cheap shot to discredit.

These are Conspiracy FACTS rather once you fully do a proper objective investigative research with no bias in your mind for the conclusion to come out one way or they other.

All I have to say. Take my advice and warnings as you wish.

Just don't be shocked when Tel Aviv is the capital of a world government and RFID implantation is a requirement.

Anyway... Fuck you dumb stupid peasants.

The elite actually don't care anymore if these facts are revealed in plain sight.

Fuck... They themselves admit it. They don't care because they know your all worthless stupid dumb degenerate useless cockroaches who don't have a brain to do their own thinking and come to their own conclusions.

Let me end this by drawing up a conclusion for you...

"Zionism is righteous. Bgamall4 is a crackpot. You are free and not slaves. You can become anything in this world if you just put your mind to it. Nobody is stopping you. We want you to be successful. Formal Education and College is the key to success. Only the Mass Media is right. Everything else is not accurate. Let's Bomb Iran. They are Evil. Let's Give $3 Billion a Year to Israel... Even though that money could be used at home for the homeless and poor along with education. Guns are bad. Let's Ban all Guns. Let's allow Illegals to Roam Free in Our Country."

Now go sign up to a JP Morgan Chase Credit Card and Buy another worthless fucking iPhone even though there is hardly any if at all any difference in most previous generations...

I'm signing off now,

-David Rockefeller, Former CEO of JP Morgan Chase.

edvard2 says

zzyzzx says

If we start using natural gas in cars, that 200-300 years supply drops dramatically.

How do you come to that conclusion? Given that most power plants utilize extremely precisely made turbines versus the literally millions upon millions of cars in various states of maintenance all across the country?

A dramatic increase in usage of natural gas will decrease the number of years of supply.

Here is an analogy that even a liberal might understand:
You have 20 apples.
You eat one per day. That gives you a 20 days supply of apples.
Instead, if you eat 2 apples per day, that would give you 10 days supply of apples.

zzyzzx says

A dramatic increase in usage of natural gas will decrease the number of years of supply.

Here is an analogy that even a liberal might understand:

You have 20 apples.

You eat one per day. That gives you a 20 days supply of apples.

Instead, if you eat 2 apples per day, that would give you 10 days supply of apples.

I heard a story on the radio this morning: In North Dakota as much as 30% of the current natural gas coming out of the ground is being flared off- or burned off because there's so much of it that they simply don't have enough storage to stick it in even as more is being built. There is an absolute shit-ton of natural gas in this country.

Here's another thing to think about: Coal plants have to meet increasing emission restrictions that makes them more and more costly to operate. With Nat gas there is less emission and therfore its less costly to burn.

This isn't a liberal or a conservative argument. Its about simple mathematics and economies of scale.

Ceffer says

Obama's speech was like getting a hand job from a pickpocket.

Well at least your social life is improving...

NASDAQ up almost 2%? That must be a mistake.

Prices are up, banks are selling their REO's. What will people discover next, that the sun rises in the east?

But I thought rental income is the new economy?

So why are they selling instead of renting out?

bgamall4 says

You need to discover Sandy Hook was a Zionist Hoax

Thanks, but I think I'd rather check out my toenail fungus instead.

bgamall4 says

Wait, they are a cartel

Wait, the sun does rise in the east.

Home sales don't need to go "pending" when they're all cash:

1. Put on MLS
2. Get fifteen over-asking, all-cash offers within seconds.
3. Accept check from highest bidder.

Five... ten minutes tops.

Buy up America. Great idea. Who needs a war to take us over? How clever. I have a group of friends and colleagues working on a legislation to create limitations on foreigners buying American real estate. They are trying to raise awareness through posting on social media sites and posting articles at present. If any of you have any ideas on how to progress the movement forward, or know of any other groups involved in this issue that I could research? Schumer-Lee bill I believe to be a huge mistake. I know there are plenty of people on this site that don't give a damn about this country, its vision, the or the saving of our democratic republic. They are the heralds of the plutocracy and are only concerned with gaining wealth. I know that there are other types on this site; people who care about the common good. If you do believe in a more just government and the world that our American ancestors fought so hard to establish, please become more familiar with the selling of this country, and actively fight against it. The media is not going to spread the word, so do it yourself; in social media sites and in conversation. Write your congressperson, start a protest. We are still allowed to protest. http://robertreich.org/post/11881926504

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Thursday, January 30, 2014 __ Level is 101.6

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

SHILLER SAID TODAY "Well, I think bubble behavior is here to stay. So, showing a plot of [inflation-adjusted price] data is helpful, but most people will not be deterred by it."
Starting about 28:18 here
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4l-3uRgP5nQ

And he was quoted 11/18/2013
“It amazes me how people are often more willing to act based on little or no data than to use data that is a challenge to assemble.”
http://www.tradeyouredge.com/trading-quotes-60-―-robert-j-shiller/

I bet a lot of people will respond to this call for a boycott by saying, "Psssht!"

The San Francisco Bay Area has high prices as it is the home of many high paid tech workers. A couple of programmers can bring in anywhere from $180,000 to $250,000 per year. Long distance commuting is a bitch and these people with RECENT skills are in demand.

That is what drives prices so high. Jobs and employment possibilities have always driven real estate.

I moved South as it makes no sense to be retired and live in high housing cost NorCal as there are many high tech workers who can pay these prices.

sbh says

Three down, less than two to go until the end of the world as we know it.

Today is a nice bull day so far there chap. Hold on for the ride. Down we go, this is just the start. Back to 10000 for the DJIA before this game is done.

sbh says

Attention K Mart shoppers: Less than one trading day left till the end of the world as we know it.

Boo hoo. I can hear your crying from here, keep it down. Down is the new norm, get used to it. Don't go out and buy that new car now there champ, you need that money to cover the losses that are coming.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/31/investing/stocks-markets/index.html?iid=HP_LN

We also have more and better sex.

That said, Obama is no liberal, not even remotely.

Someone who doesn't drink is considered being "Conservative".

Otherwise they would partake in a "Liberal" dose of hootch.

Drinking too much is considered being too Liberal.
Like the Drunks in Washington right now.

Russian nationalists skinheads don't exactly abstain from vodka...

Not that I disagree with the conclusion, but that chart is stupid. The correlation between political ideology and alcohol consumption should be done at least at the voting district level if not a finer granularity. Doing it at the state level is just crude.

Also, the research should have classified what kind of alcohol consumption is associated with each sample: beer, wine, liquor, etc.

Really, can't anyone in the press do real research anymore? Just look at how marketing companies data mine. When money is on the line, people get a lot more specific with their statistics.

CaptainShuddup says

Drinking too much is considered being too Liberal.

Like the Drunks in Washington right now.

Ah, yet another illustration of conservatives' ineptitude in reasoning.

1. Group A and group B are both composed of N people, where N is high enough to be used in a simple random sample.
2. Group A drinks more alcohol than group B.

Based on these facts, can we conclude either
3. More people in group A get drunk than people in group B.
4. The total number of drunk person-hours in group A is greater than in group B.

Anyone who isn't completely inept at logic realizes the answer is obviously no to both conclusions. Group A can easily drink more alcohol than group B, but pace themselves so that they get drunk less often (even never) than group B.

There is simply insufficient information to conclude that liberals get drunk more than conservatives based on the premise that liberals drink more than conservatives. And that is assuming the persons carrying out the study even got the definition of liberal correct, and that's a big assumption.

What a stupid thread. Many conservatives are bible thumpers who don't believe in demon rum. Duh.

bob2356 says

What a stupid thread. Many conservatives are bible thumpers who don't believe in demon rum. Duh.

Sufficient data mining could filter for that and determine if political ideology independent of religious doctrine affects alcohol consumption.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Teen Killer Zimmereman Wants to Beat On Negroes for a Living

Then he should run for Senate as a Republican.

Dan8267 says

Then he should run for Senate as a Republican.

Zimmerman is a registered Democrat.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

George Zimmerman Agrees to Celeb Boxing Match -- I'll Fight Anyone, Even Black People

George Zimmerman: the white man's O.J. Simpson

zzyzzx says

Dan8267 says

Then he should run for Senate as a Republican.

Zimmerman is a registered Democrat.

He should switch. Republican philosophy is more in line with his.

Recent news was that a serial killer did the Simpson murders. OJ sent the guy in there to get some things for him, tho, but didn't intend the killing. So he was innocent. Sort of.
OJ wanting his stuff was a recurring theme, culminating in the Vegas episode that landed him in prison for real.
Link: http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/20/justice/o-j-simpson-film-claim/