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42820   Homeboy   2014 Feb 14, 4:05am  

tatupu70 says

Exactly--you can't compare the two time periods by looking at point gains/drops. You either have to look at percentage change or inflation adjust it.

You mean percentage as in the percentage of the total DOW value? That makes no sense to me. Even bears wouldn't expect the DOW to crash to zero. Seems to me we should be looking at the dollar amount of the gain/fall, adjusted for inflation. I would say the chart posted by anonymous is nonsense.

42821   tatupu70   2014 Feb 14, 4:43am  

Homeboy says

You mean percentage as in the percentage of the total DOW value? That makes no
sense to me. Even bears wouldn't expect the DOW to crash to zero.

I'm not sure what you are saying. What does going to zero have to do with it?

42822   CDon   2014 Feb 14, 4:54am  

Bubbabear says

Mark D says

foreclosures have to to rise 10 times for prices to go back to 2009-2010.

have fun waiting.

It's fun watching R.E. cheerleaders tout damage control...

Not as much fun as watching you continue to run away from your early 2013 call, as fast as your little legs can carry you:

Bubbabear says

California Housing Prices Falling MoM and QoQ

If you buy a house now in California, you’ll will sustain irrecoverable losses.

42823   zzyzzx   2014 Feb 14, 5:47am  

It's all Obama's fault!!!

42824   turtledove   2014 Feb 14, 6:04am  

The banks are in this to make money. Why wouldn't they wait until they could make more money on a sale to start unloading some foreclosure inventory? They're running a business, not a charity. And clearly our government enabled them to proceed with such a plan. Sucks for the rest of us, but it is the way it is. The banks ain't losing money. If it happens to benefit the current homeowners, well that's just coincidental. If it benefited the banks to hurt the current homeowners, I have no doubt that's the way this would have played out.

42825   bubblesitter   2014 Feb 14, 6:10am  

I am sure these are all flips gone bad!

42826   dublin hillz   2014 Feb 14, 8:19am  

If parents threatened them with homelessness all of a sudden they would "find" 2 minimum wage jobs to pay the rent.

42827   Dan8267   2014 Feb 14, 9:21am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

but you can't stuff your cock into cell phone.

thomaswong.1986 can. He's dick is micro-usb size.

42828   Robber Baron Elite Scum   2014 Feb 14, 9:26am  

I can't live more than 2 minutes without committing a heinous satanically-inspired financial crime.

Fuck you peasants.

42830   Homeboy   2014 Feb 14, 9:50am  

tatupu70 says

I'm not sure what you are saying. What does going to zero have to do with it?

If you had to climb the stairs up 50% of a building, would you rather climb 50% of a one-story building, or 50% of a 100-story building?

42831   indigenous   2014 Feb 14, 9:54am  

I am reading that gold is going to go down to at least $700.00 maybe $250.00

The main reason is that we are in deflation NOT inflation.

Commoditiy prices are going down which is affecting countries like Australia. Gold is not just money it is a commodity.

Japan, Germany, US, China are all going to or are going through a demographic decline.

42832   zzyzzx   2014 Feb 14, 10:02am  

Call it Crazy says

When asked about the things they couldn't live without, 20 percent said they could not live without sex.

I am part of the 20%

42833   zzyzzx   2014 Feb 14, 10:04am  

Obligatory:

42834   zzyzzx   2014 Feb 14, 10:05am  

Only 14%???

42835   Ceffer   2014 Feb 14, 10:06am  

zzyzzx says

Obligatory:

After a steamy round of sexting, put on vibrate, insert, and ask sexting partner to phone you over and over again.

42836   HydroCabron   2014 Feb 14, 10:18am  

The Onion Proposed the Dodge Ream, a car you can fuck.

Why do smart phones lack the proper receptacles and protuberances to fulfill ALL of our needs?

42837   Ceffer   2014 Feb 14, 10:45am  

A lot of parents don't seem to mind if their children turn into big, swollen, spoiled parasites.

It seems a lot of parents, after raising them, spend the rest of their lives bribing them to stick around, or following them from place to place.

That's what I call Darwinian narcissism run amok.

42838   Ceffer   2014 Feb 14, 10:46am  

El HydroCabron says

The Onion Proposed the Dodge Ream, a car you can fuck.

Why do smart phones lack the proper receptacles and protuberances to fulfill ALL of our needs?

I think AF has a flame thrower that goes 20 feet on his, but its a one-shot.

42839   Ceffer   2014 Feb 14, 10:50am  

CrazyMan says

Do you know how many times you can shoot yourself with a nail gun before dying?

He was actually trying to commit suicide with duct tape. It didn't work until he used the nail gun to hold the duct tape in place.

42840   indigenous   2014 Feb 14, 11:12am  

Call it Crazy says

indigenous says

I am reading that gold is going to go down to at least $700.00 maybe $250.00

Then why has it been going UP for the last month and a half??

Got me, we are definetly in a deflationary period.

42841   Facebooksux   2014 Feb 14, 11:20am  

indigenous says

I am reading that gold is going to go down to at least $700.00 maybe $250.00

The main reason is that we are in deflation NOT inflation.

Commoditiy prices are going down which is affecting countries like Australia. Gold is not just money it is a commodity.

Japan, Germany, US, China are all going to or are going through a demographic decline.

I would LOVE some deflation.

Who doesn't want a new Porsche 911 for $20,000, or a mansion in New York or Beverly Hills for $100,000?

42842   New Renter   2014 Feb 14, 11:33am  

Homeboy says

tatupu70 says

I'm not sure what you are saying. What does going to zero have to do with it?

If you had to climb the stairs up 50% of a building, would you rather climb 50% of a one-story building, or 50% of a 100-story building?

In the 18 months leading up to the 1929 crash the DJIA jumped from 200 to 375 a change of +88%, then crashing back down to about 200. In the 18 months previous to now the DJIA has climbed from 12500 to 16000, a change of +28% following roughly the same pattern as the DJIA leading up to the 1929 crash. The trend was identified in November and has tracked - roughly - the 1929 pattern from then till now.

IF the DJIA were to follow the trend it would drop to 12500ish, not to zero.

42843   New Renter   2014 Feb 14, 11:45am  

Call it Crazy says

indigenous says

I am reading that gold is going to go down to at least $700.00 maybe $250.00

Then why has it been going UP for the last month and a half??

Because everyone hates cash.

42844   New Renter   2014 Feb 14, 11:54am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

I can't live more than 2 minutes without committing a heinous satanically-inspired financial crime.

Fuck you peasants.

Right, because who'd fuck you, anyway, ASSHOLE!

This is who:

+

42845   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2014 Feb 14, 1:07pm  

Call it Crazy says

Mark D says

foreclosures have to to rise 10 times for prices to go back to 2009-2010.

have fun waiting.

With the current low inventory situation, it won't take a high percentage of foreclosures to come on the market to drag down prices....

but foreclosures lead to higher level of inventory.

you are still incorrect regardless. prices cannot go down with this level of inventory.

42846   turtledove   2014 Feb 14, 2:37pm  

Oh, and Karen, your computer wife, has nothing to do with it.

42847   Bubbabeefcake   2014 Feb 14, 3:21pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

stuff your cock into cell phone.

You can stuff your cock into a flesh light, view your partner on a virtual sex download and get it all the time....I call it safe sex!

42848   Homeboy   2014 Feb 14, 4:33pm  

New Renter says

In the 18 months leading up to the 1929 crash the DJIA jumped from 200 to 375 a change of +88%, then crashing back down to about 200. In the 18 months previous to now the DJIA has climbed from 12500 to 16000, a change of +28% following roughly the same pattern as the DJIA leading up to the 1929 crash. The trend was identified in November and has tracked - roughly - the 1929 pattern from then till now.

IF the DJIA were to follow the trend it would drop to 12500ish, not to zero.

Exactly. In the early 20th Century, a rise of only 175 represented 88% of the DOW's value, as you say. Since the DOW is currently above 16,000, a huge runup represents a smaller percentage of that total number, yet it is still a huge runup. And 200 was just the first bounce; the DOW crashed all the way to 41 in the 1930s, I believe.

42849   John Bailo   2014 Feb 15, 12:37am  

I was musing yesterday on Joe Biden's comments about there not really being a Republican Party in the sense of his wanting to sit down and debate one representative.

That more than anything says it all. Republicans are a collection of individuals who cannot bind themselves together approaching anything like the size and rigidity of the Centralized State of the Democrats, hence, we're everyone who can't fit in the slots. At the same time, we would never try to sqeeze into something like that.

42850   rooemoore   2014 Feb 15, 12:39am  

Call it Crazy says

Why waste your time... The hostage lived... You got your unlimited credit line for the next year....

Move on.....

Why move on when watching publicans shoot themselves is so much fun? And, if your intention is to appear well-informed, perhaps you should spend a little time studying what the debt-ceiling is before you describe it as an unlimited credit line.

Aw shit, who am I kidding? Being well-informed is perhaps the last thing you'd be interested in.

42851   tatupu70   2014 Feb 15, 12:41am  

New Renter says

IF the DJIA were to follow the trend it would drop to 12500ish, not to zero.

Again--who is talking about dropping to zero?? I'm saying the scales on the graphs are completely misleading. The top of the left scale should be about 26000 rather than ~18000. If you used percentages, this would be obvious.

42852   rooemoore   2014 Feb 15, 12:43am  

John Bailo says

hat more than anything says it all. Republicans are a collection of individuals who cannot bind themselves together approaching anything like the size and rigidity of the Centralized State of the Democrats, hence, we're everyone who can't fit in the slots. At the same time, we would never try to sqeeze into something like that.

Which means that in a democracy -- even one as frail as ours - your ideas will be marginalized and discarded.

42853   tatupu70   2014 Feb 15, 12:44am  

Homeboy says

Since the DOW is currently above 16,000, a huge runup represents a smaller percentage of that total number, yet it is still a huge runup.

No it's really not. Percentage terms are a much better gauge than absolute numbers for obvious reasons.

42854   New Renter   2014 Feb 15, 1:57am  

tatupu70 says

No it's really not. Percentage terms are a much better gauge than absolute numbers for obvious reasons.

Is that what investors were thinking in October of 2007 too?

The DJIA had *only* climbed from 11100 from 2/17/2006 to 14016 on 10/11/2007

That's*only* a 27% gain of its value over the same time period as the period before the 1929 crash.

42855   tatupu70   2014 Feb 15, 2:02am  

New Renter says

Is that what investors were thinking in October of 2007 too?

The DJIA had *only* climbed from 11100 from 2/17/2006 to 14016 on 10/11/2007

That's*only* a 27% gain of its value over the same time period as the period before the 1929 crash.

I'm not even sure what you are implying here? Investors (should) buy and sell based on future projections of profits/cash flows. Not based on the point gain in an index over some arbitrary time period.

42856   mell   2014 Feb 15, 2:07am  

tatupu70 says

mell says

When the debt ceiling is restricted you cannot spend because you know you cannot pay back

All evidence to the contrary. What the hell have we been doing over the last 10 years then???

Extending the debt ceiling usually more than once a year.

42857   Robber Baron Elite Scum   2014 Feb 15, 2:15am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

ApocalyspeFuck can lick my hairy old butthole. I will never be in handcuffs.

FUCK YOU, SATANIC OLD FUCK!

You're going to the superman in Florence, CO in a wedding dress to be presented to cannibal neomazi serial killers as their new bride.

In your dreams nancy-boy.

I own the private prison CORPORATIONS.

I decide who get's thrown inside those cages full of savages.

Guess what?

Your on the list, peasant.

We will first give you a full sex change operation. Estrogen shots, full body and face laser hair removal, facial feminization surgery, Adam's apple removal, Vaginal construction...

And than we will give you a wedding dress and a 100 different husbands to test drive your new tight wet pink transsexual pussy.

All the medical expenses will be financed by me.

Enjoy the orgasms from your new pussy.

PS. If you catch any nasty STDS like clap, herpes and maybe perhaps HIV... The medical expenses will be on me for their treatment. I want to keep you alive as long as possible.

42859   Rin   2014 Feb 15, 2:41am  

Ceffer says

It seems a lot of parents, after raising them, spend the rest of their lives bribing them to stick around, or following them from place to place.

Isn't this phenomena known as the Boomerbang kids? Young adults, who never seem to blossom into true adults, as a result of knowing that there's always a place to go back to, than to deal with the reality of sharing 3 bedrooms with ex-classmates, dealing with annoying entry level jobs, the commute, and so forth?

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