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44422   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 23, 9:33am  

Is that Apple's new work force?

44423   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 23, 9:38am  

jazz music says

MORAL OF THE STORY

Thousands of years can pass and people will still do the same for the love of money. Ownership has its privileges which must be held in check by something greater than a mere protest demonstration ... where right wing cameras can be turned away and police be sent in to quell the violence stirred up by owner's paid thugs

...OH!!! You're waiting for FOX to pick up the story?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/06/29/rights-group-finds-child-labor-rampant-in-nestle-ivory-coast-supply-chain/

44424   Ceffer   2014 Mar 23, 11:23am  

Blurtman says

The banana republic USA has had criminals serve as Treasury Secretary

Been a tradition, ever since Joseph Kennedy was put in charge of the SEC by Roosevelt. Roosevelt's reasoning was, who better to know what all the crooks are up to.

At a certain level, government isn't about right or wrong, justice or injustice, legal or illegal, it is about mutual accommodations and who has the best blackmail.

44425   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 23, 12:37pm  

Well too bad the Republicans aren't in power right now, so you could write them a scathing letter letting them know you're taken back with the way Obama is running things.

44426   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 23, 1:06pm  

with the who for what?

44427   New Renter   2014 Mar 23, 1:29pm  

lostand confused says

Actually looking at Sarah Palin, I think she is a smart cookie.

That's not saying much given cookies make flatworms look like gods. You might as well say Sarah Palin is smart...for a bag of hammers.

Cookies are tasty but too many are terrible for your health. Same with Sarah Palin - a little of her once in a while is all anyone needs.

44428   lostand confused   2014 Mar 23, 2:17pm  

New Renter says

lostand confused says

Actually looking at Sarah Palin, I think she is a smart cookie.

That's not saying much given cookies make flatworms look like gods. You might as well say Sarah Palin is smart...for a bag of hammers.

Cookies are tasty but too many are terrible for your health. Same with Sarah Palin - a little of her once in a while is all anyone needs.

I am not talking about being President-which I think she is not ready. But as an American, she is a self made millionaire many times over, takes care of her kids and is not on welfare-which is a great achievement these days. Maybe I have missed it, but I have never seen her say-oh poor me, I am a woman, the big boys take advantage of me-she gives as good as she gets and then some.

If her target audience market demands a certain behavior and she delivers and makes millions off it-can't blame her can you. She is just astute and knows how to milk her constituents-just like any good politician/entertainment personality.

44429   thomaswong.1986   2014 Mar 23, 2:30pm  

jazz music says

Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court dismissed a case against Royal Dutch Petroleum for human rights abuses in Nigeria.

the reality is pretty much most of African and South-East Asian Cultures
enslave their OWN population regularly.

have a good read... there are 30 Million Slaves today, not one has anything to do with some American or European company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Present_day

44430   hrhjuliet   2014 Mar 23, 4:56pm  

jazz music says

If the republicans were in power I would shut down government until they came up with a balanced budget: Let them shoulder that burden for once, and we'll see how many bail outs and tax credits big money gets.

Let their neo-liberal right wing commentators for big cronies wax all indignant about carpet/tea-bagger spenders of the commonwealth.

Fox commentators should be off-shored to where broadcasting infrastructure is more in line with their ideals of austerity for the greater good.

Agree. Nestlé is known for their wrongdoing. This is just one of their many atrocities. BTW Mr. Wong, it doesn't make Nestlé justified because the country itself participates in unthinkable horrors. We can vote against corporations that participate in evil, it's called boycotting them. Don't buy from countries that allow slave labor. No excuses, just don't buy from them.

44431   bob2356   2014 Mar 23, 10:37pm  

lostand confused says

If her target audience market demands a certain behavior and she delivers and makes millions off it-can't blame her can you. She is just astute and knows how to milk her constituents-just like any good politician/entertainment personality.

Personally I would prefer my elected representative to be someone knowledgable in the issues with a solid track record of standing by their believes like Ron Paul rather than an air head who made a fortune being an entertainer who knows what words to mouth to a bunch of low teeth to tattoo ratio rednecks. Paris Hilton also made a fortune (yes I know she started with a fortune also) delivering a certain behavior to her target audience. Should she run for president?

44432   HomePriceFuturesTrader   2014 Mar 23, 11:11pm  

The LAX Case Shiller home price index futures that are traded on the CME were quoted 240.2/243.4 (bid/ask) on Friday for Nov '16 versus the spot index of 214.84 for a 11.8% implied gain. SFR and SDG have higher gains. Anyone wanting to participate in the debate about outright lower California prices is invited to weigh in there, but bears get to sell at a significant premium to spot levels.

44434   Robber Baron Elite Scum   2014 Mar 24, 12:33am  


Bank of America finds the housing recovery hard to believe

44435   Y   2014 Mar 24, 12:38am  

English your 2nd language??

bob2356 says

Personally I would prefer my elected representative to be someone knowledgable in the issues with a solid track record

lostand confused says

I am not talking about being President-which I think she is not ready. But as an American, she is a self made millionaire many times over, takes care of her kids and is not on welfare-which is a great achievement these days.

44436   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 24, 1:41am  

lostand confused says

She is just astute and knows how to milk her constituents-just like any good politician/entertainment personality.

She really did come on the scene as a total Washington outsider, with the naive Idealist view of politics. That made her dangerous to the status quoa in Washington. Her biggest mistake was not aligning her aligence with the throngs of fed up voters who thought they saw something in her, when she was attacked by the Liberal Media propaganda smear weapon. She was taken back the Liberal ridicule, the Republicans comforted her, and told her she better listen to them that only they could protect her. Now shut up and do and say exactly everything we tell you to do.

Had She told them, "Screw you, You do and say everything I tell you to do, I'm in charge now!" She would have had gained more votes, had she put some stones forth. Like the Teaparty say what you want about them, but they don't contort their message to fit the GOP's bidding.

She should have stayed Country strong, but instead she was trained to be a future female Karl Rove, an idiot behind the scenes sanctioning or not, what goes on in the GOP, or Washington, when they aren't even elected people to be wielding so much influence.
And that makes her even more dangerous to those of you, than the thought of her being a one term President.

She'll be around dictating the outcome of GOP choices for Presidents, and Congress for years to come. The Raw Sarah Palin stood to change the GOP, the manufactured Sarah Plain running about live on the scene now, is only there to insure it never changes.

44437   Iwag   2014 Mar 24, 1:44am  

concord inventory up 30% year over year, FACT
concord sales down 20% year over year, FACT

44438   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 24, 1:48am  

The majority of the Third house in Washington, has already repealed Obamacare.

The American Household.

44439   Iwag   2014 Mar 24, 2:19am  

"I posted a graph showing prices headed up in Concord."

lol hahahaha

this liar can't even contain his lies when everyone is looking.

44440   FortWayne   2014 Mar 24, 2:21am  

Some people think it's their god given right to use slave labor for profit!

44441   FortWayne   2014 Mar 24, 2:29am  

jazz music says

Mankind historically relies on the obstacle to tell him how much is "enough."

And both parties pretend it ain't so every year when that concept gets in their way. Slave labor and outsourcing, there are no real limits these days, so it keeps on growing.

44442   Iwag   2014 Mar 24, 2:31am  

"Actually you've been banned from the site numerous times for being a troll and you created "iwag" out of childish frustration."

lol ive never been banned from pat net. is that what you do, resort to lies when you get exposed?

do you remember back in the good old days when you were a new member of this website and Honest Abe used to kick your ass all over the forum. too bad that guy that got bored of the forum and doesnt post anymore because i loved reading him humiliate you over and over again.

44443   Iwag   2014 Mar 24, 2:32am  

he also posted listing prices not actual sold prices

i wonder why

44444   Iwag   2014 Mar 24, 2:47am  

"I never predicted a bottoming of inventory in Concord, however I did say that inventory was still declining in much of California"

listen to this asshole

now he wasn't talking about the real estate market where he's 100% invested in, he's talking about 'other markets' where he has no financial ties at all

lol

44445   wave9x   2014 Mar 24, 2:51am  

Iwag says

bay area home prices dropped year over year in august from 2012 to 2013 and that was with lower inventory and better mortgage rates

some liar is about to get exposed

Since you used Concord as your example, here are stats for Concord...
8/12 median sale $/sqft $198
8/12 median sale $290k

8/13 $/sqft $273 (38% YoY increase)
8/13 median sale $404k (39% YoY increase)
›

44446   RentingForHalfTheCost   2014 Mar 24, 3:06am  

Han says

That's $150,000 in five years out of your pocket and into someone else's pocket,

Opposed to your realtor fees, mortgage interest, property tax, insurance, maintenance, lost investment growth from dead equity, etc. going out of your pocket to where? Yup, you guessed it, someone else's pocket.

Analyze both sides and then pick one. However, anyone saying renting is throwing money away and buying is saving all the money is not being truthful.

44447   RentingForHalfTheCost   2014 Mar 24, 3:21am  

Call it Crazy says

jojo says

Where a new listing might have attracted 10 or 12 offers last spring, 3 or 4 are coming in now; where 3 or 4 offers would have arrived, the seller is getting 1.

Interesting... And this from Redfin:

According to Redfin Los Angeles agent Eric Tan, “This time last year, sellers could name their price and still get 20 to 30 offers. This year, even homes that are priced competitively are only seeing two to three offers come in, often at or below list price. Pricing appropriately is crucial.”

God is currently ignoring the need of Realtors to feed their families. After years and years of making sure they had the best, he is finally now turning his back. See what happens when you get greedy. Regular almonds wasn't enough, you had to go organic. Regular bread wasn't enough, you had to push for wheat germ free. Regular yogurt wasn't enough, you had to switch to Greek non-fat. Well now you need to switch back and actually suck it up and jump into the real work force. You know, the one where you actually have to contribute to society somehow. Not just get a cut of a simple sale event. God is not your friend anymore.

44448   CL   2014 Mar 24, 3:29am  

CaptainShuddup says

Vicente says

Who was this loser?

...Yeah, but juuuuuuuuussssssssssst barely.

If that accounts for anything.

Um...5 million votes and 126 EV is not "barely". That's a larger EV spread than Clinton trounced Dole with, and larger on both counts than anything Bush "won" with.

Largest vote totals ever, except for himself in 2008 (obviously population growth is a factor). Still, the largest vote tallies in history are Obama at #1, and #2.

CaptainShuddup says

Obama has been a one man "horror" show.

Because Congress signs off on anything that comes from the WH? Where do you get this stuff?

44449   Han   2014 Mar 24, 3:39am  

RentingForHalfTheCost says

Han says

That's $150,000 in five years out of your pocket and into someone else's pocket,

Opposed to your realtor fees, mortgage interest, property tax, insurance, maintenance, lost investment growth from dead equity, etc. going out of your pocket to where? Yup, you guessed it, someone else's pocket.

Analyze both sides and then pick one. However, anyone saying renting is throwing money away and buying is saving all the money is not being truthful.

Oh definitely - it is not always better to buy, as I said before. It depends on one's personal situation.

I was referring specifically to people here in SoCal who want a place to live in. These are the folks you will see in middle class SoCal neighborhoods looking for houses - if they can buy a 3/2 house with a mortgage payment of $1,900 a month, there is no way in hell they would choose to instead rent a similar place for $2,500 a month.

Unless, of course, they are here in SoCal temporarily and they think they will be moving back to wherever they came from...

44450   exfatguy   2014 Mar 24, 3:39am  

Why would the Chinese invest in China when there's a perfectly sustainable bubble right here in the United States?

44451   wave9x   2014 Mar 24, 3:57am  

Iwag says

bay area home prices dropped year over year in august from 2012 to 2013 and that was with lower inventory and better mortgage rates

some liar is about to get exposed

Stats for the entire Bay Area:

8/12 median sale $410k
8/13 median sale $540k (31.7% YoY increase)

http://www.dqnews.com/Articles/2013/News/California/Bay-Area/RRBay130913.aspx

Prices way up in every single county.

44452   Iwag   2014 Mar 24, 4:06am  

i meant month over month

44453   HydroCabron   2014 Mar 24, 4:12am  

Two rich old crooks are not a special interest: they're the will of the people.

An example of an actual unfair influence is the middle class. Now that's what I call a special interest!

44454   HydroCabron   2014 Mar 24, 4:16am  

The Tea Party legislators in various states have only mostly passed abortion restrictions so far, with little in the way of freedom or lower spending.

But I'm sure there's no reason for alarm: they're working through their agenda alphabetically, and just need more time.

44455   edvard2   2014 Mar 24, 4:25am  

An oldie but goodie topic. The simple solution but one probably impossible to implement would be to make spending from outside groups or interest groups on politics illegal.

The irony of all of this is that its clear that the Tea Party is actually hurting the GOP and their message. They also have this effect of somehow promoting the most inappropriate candidates.

If I were to stick my toe out there I'd say that what will happen for 2016 is that while the GOP could have a very good chance in the running if they had Jeb Bush or Chris Christie- two more reasonable, at least somewhat moderate and intelligent politicians- the Tea Party will influence the party to pick some ridiculously conservative and outright unelectable politician and once more the GOP will have to concede defeat for the same reasons they lost in 08 and 12'

44456   lattitude   2014 Mar 24, 4:29am  

That Paragon link's author retracted his view that the market was slowing down in the March report (and now says the opposite is true).

44457   justme   2014 Mar 24, 4:50am  

The original report is from WSJ

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303802104579455000745605352

This could interesting...

44458   lattitude   2014 Mar 24, 4:54am  

http://www.paragon-re.com/03_14_SF_Home_Market_Heats_Up_Again

"We recently speculated on tentative signs that suggested a further market normalization, but now the indicators are pointing in a different direction. The inventory of homes available to purchase on any given day is even lower than before last year's furious market; buyer demand has emerged from its midwinter hibernation like a hungry bear; and prices are under increasing pressure once again."

44459   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 Mar 24, 5:04am  

spydah_hh says

Incomes don't have anything to do with growth. I mean by that logic since incomes have stagnated for the last 40 years then you're saying we had no growth for the last 40 years. Good observation lol.

The point is, it doesn't matter that the dollar was 95% weaker, because people got ~6500% more of them while prices "only" rose ~2000%. That's a big fat gain - and most of those gains happened between 1938-1978, the high point of evil Big Gubermint New Deal Socialism.

The weakening dollar is a red herring, and even with PM-based currency, there is not enough gold in the world to back it up, so you'll have paper anyway.

The only difference is that the Gold and Silver will accrue to the top .5% and everybody else will have wholly or almost wholly, paper.

44460   Robber Baron Elite Scum   2014 Mar 24, 5:30am  

Regardless of whether or not these are staged or inside job incidents of terrorism.

It is clear and final that the government and big money private interests are using these incidents to create fear in the minds of the masses to submit to their agendas.

Multiple agendas such as banning the rights of bearing arms, excessive security check points within cities all across the US and slowly removing more constitutional rights to privacy under the guise of "safety" to introduce more tyranny and para-military police policies into the US.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety and will lose both." --BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, One of the Founding Fathers of the US.

44461   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 24, 5:36am  

CL says

Um...5 million votes and 126 EV is not "barely".

We're a big country, anything less than 60% is not a whopping crushing defeat in idealogy. 51%-59% represents a portion of voters who were dragged along with promises and are most the most likely to give a negative feedback in the first approval poll.

Obama one with like 54% or something like that.

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