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75829   FortWayne   2016 Oct 20, 10:22pm  

Rew says

You would get it with Clinton or Trump, as neither has anything on the table to address it. Closest to actually looking like they might do something in this ballpark was Bernie.

Bernie was a hand out on steroids guy, that doesn't get economy moving. It works in short term, long term it's just debt and next generation is fucked paying the bill. We can't do that. We either grow market share, or we go not here nor there (like we are now). What I liked about Bernie is that he was honest, a man of the people. I didn't agree with his methods, but I liked him. He had the courage and heart to speak his mind, and work for the people of this country.

75830   neplusultra57   2016 Oct 20, 10:23pm  

errc says

thanks to Trump voters. There are real issues that intelligent, free thinkers are prioritizing this cycle.

Having these two clauses even in the same county is really funny. Thanks for that.

errc says

The Clintons and their voters, ensconced in hate,

LOL You're a little bit deaf, aren't you? Huh? Never mind.

75831   turtledove   2016 Oct 20, 11:40pm  

I don't see the big deal, either. Questioning the results isn't a declaration of war. Refusing to concede while things are looked into isn't a power transfer by force. There have been unprecedented leaks about all kinds of crazy stuff. People have admitted to plots to commit electorate fraud in this very election. This isn't a delusion. It may not make any difference if the spread is big enough, but it should still be investigated and the conspirators punished.

75832   HEY YOU   2016 Oct 21, 12:01am  

There is a problem everyone seems to miss. The next president could be a Democrat or Republican.
How can this slip by people?

75833   Dan8267   2016 Oct 21, 12:44am  

Election fraud has always been a strong part of American history. Remember that it's election fraud, not voter fraud. It's not the voters committing fraud. It's the government officials and election personnel.

It's pretty sad that America is one of the worst examples of "American" values. Most western nations are more American than America.

75834   zzyzzx   2016 Oct 21, 5:51am  

When Obama took office in 2009 employer-provided premiums cost $13,375. Today they are $18,142. Thanks, Obama.

75835   joshuatrio   2016 Oct 21, 6:41am  

Back before Obama care ramped up, the monthly premium for a family of 4 was around $300-350 I believe.

Last time I checked, it was closer to a grand.

What a joke.

75836   _   2016 Oct 21, 6:55am  

Just to give you idea of the income levels in scale and why a growing prime age labor force with this much income power can't have a deflationary collapse

75837   _   2016 Oct 21, 7:03am  

per-capita adjustments

75838   justme   2016 Oct 21, 7:04am  

Newspaper columnist and TV pundit Charles Krauthammer is a bought and paid for right-wing shill. He has no principle except for pandering to and serving the rich and powerful through his relentless propaganda work. CK complaining about a "campaign of seemingly boundless cynicism" must qualify as the ultimate irony. Or is he just being sarcastic about himself? Without even knowing it?

The Republican party has lost control of the masses they were trying to fool into thinking that the Republican overlords cared about them. It has worked since 1966 or so, I think (keyword: southern strategy). That's 50 years of successful agitprop.

PS: A bit unsure what the photo is all about. I might agree that CK is the seed of satan, but still.

75839   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 21, 7:04am  

Oh the Kraphammer, his schtick is saying negative shit. He doesn't support anybody. He hasn't muttered a posttive word in his whole career. EVER!

75840   marcus   2016 Oct 21, 7:05am  

Tenpoundbass says

Oh the Kraphammer, his schtick is saying negative shit

Tenpoundbass says

He hasn't muttered a posttive word in his whole career. EVER!

So you love him, right ?

75841   _   2016 Oct 21, 7:07am  

The world is bigger than Northern California

I know you guys carry over economic theories based on the lives on people in San Jose and San Francisco

That's the worst way to look at Marco data trends when carrying into the thesis of a Great Deflationary collapse when consumption levels are at all time highs

75842   _   2016 Oct 21, 7:08am  

We are not Japan ... a lot American bears both conservative and liberal keep on bringing up the Japan thesis with us... it's not even close

We don't run our entire economy on devaluing the Yen

75843   justme   2016 Oct 21, 7:11am  

Tenpoundbass says

He hasn't muttered a posttive word in his whole career. EVER!

CK is bitter that he didn't get to marry into a wealthy family, like his younger brother(*), NY Times columnist and socialite Thomas Friedman. Therefore, Tommy-boy gets to play the happy-go-lucky open-minded Republican, while Charlie gets to be the stern disciplinarian.

(*) Not really, but they seem like a good pair

75844   anonymous   2016 Oct 21, 7:19am  

justme says

CK is bitter that he didn't get to marry into a wealthy family,

Or maybe he's just bitter because he hasn't been able to jerk off for decades.

75845   _   2016 Oct 21, 8:03am  

Even with all that

2016

highest home sales, highest mortgage buyers

Back to 1998 levels but still growing in a light demographic patch

75847   joshuatrio   2016 Oct 21, 8:20am  

I've seriously considered quitting my job, and going back to full time self-employment because of all the healthcare nonsense.

Reason being, you can shelter the majority of your income in pre-tax investments and business write off's - claim a total income of like $15,000 for the year, and get free health care, thanks to our current dumbass president.

Where as before the obamacare mess, any small biz owner could afford a MUCH BETTER policy than the garbage offered now, for like $300/mo.

75848   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 21, 8:21am  

Even the Philippines ditched Obamacare

75849   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Oct 21, 8:39am  

Charles Krauthammer was against, vaguely supportive, and now against Trump again. He closes considering Paul Ryan or Ben Sasse, two Country Club GOPe elites.

And their long record of successful leadership, hahaha. He's pretty much been in the same boat since he ditched being a democrat, he's an Establishment Cheerleader and has been for years.

If Americans haven't been made Cynical by the Iraq War, shoddy Katrina Response, the Financial Crisis, the Bailout, the failure to re-regulate Wall Street, the sleepwalking to WW3 in Syria, they were hopeless.

I'm glad Americans are cynical: We have the worst elites in the world, enervated and weak and stupidly callous. Whenever I think of the Elite, I think of pompous, stupid Tom Friedman. They need a wake-up call.

75850   bdrasin   2016 Oct 21, 8:56am  

I'm glad we have gotten past denial, anger, bargaining and are on to depression. Come on, she'll be pretty much exactly like her husband and we got through the 1990s just fine - good economy, no stupid wars. Here's what I expect from President Clinton (who at this point we can say will surely win - HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF):

1) Two or three solid supreme court appointments. Look at Ginsberg and Breyer for how they will likely decide cases
2) Some positive executive signing statements
3) Solid appointments to federal bureaucracies (whom the Republicans will try their best to sabotage)
4) Absolutely no legislation of any kind. The Republicans are in full scorched earth mode and will remain so until/unless the American people completely disempower them like has happened in California

75851   lostand confused   2016 Oct 21, 9:26am  

Ironman says

Approved hikes 93%: New Mexico

WTF????????????????????????????

75852   zzyzzx   2016 Oct 21, 9:30am  

It's all Obama's fault!!!

75853   Ceffer   2016 Oct 21, 11:13am  

This country needs an enema and Trumpligula is the jackal narcissist to get it done!

75854   missing   2016 Oct 21, 11:19am  

bdrasin says

good economy, no stupid wars

Slowly deteriorating economy, possibly recession in 2017 to get it out of the way early before reelection

Stupid wars

75855   zzyzzx   2016 Oct 21, 11:23am  

If Hillary gets in we can expect record levels of fraud.

75856   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 21, 11:25am  

Tenpoundbass says

More political sodomy of America

I'm sharpening a mop handle as we speak. Then i'm going to dip it in pitch and run it through broken glass then I'm going to run it up every Democrat voters ass that will vote for me.
Metaphorically speaking...

75857   Rin   2016 Oct 21, 12:45pm  

justme says

Newspaper columnist and TV pundit Charles Krauthammer is a bought and paid for right-wing shill. He has no principle except for pandering to and serving the rich and powerful through his relentless propaganda work

That's why the world needs to vote for me, an honest serial hoe bonker.

When ppl asked, "What do you like to do?", I respond, "I like to f.uck hoes!"

They say, "Well, should you shouldn't want that. Instead, you should be thinking about family values and having meaningful relationships."

I then say, "F.uck that!"

75858   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Oct 21, 1:29pm  

You know how else won't vote for Trump? Perennial Sage and Clairvoyant, Tom Friedman
www.youtube.com/embed/dnoh_J40EJ0
He loves her speeches. And as we all know, Mr. 6 Months nails it every time.

Wise Man Say: Do the Opposite of What Mustache Says and You'll avoid Disaster.

75859   Patrick   2016 Oct 21, 4:03pm  

I will be there!

75860   Ceffer   2016 Oct 21, 5:34pm  

It's a bird! It's a plane! It's an Immense Hirsute Lesbian in a UFO!

Maybe that's why Einstein wanted to change his equation to E=IHL squared.

75861   HydroCabron   2016 Oct 21, 9:28pm  

The Tiny-Fingered, Thin-Skinned Ferret-Wearing Cheeto Shitgibbon's new hotels will no longer bear the Rump name:

Following the “soft opening” of the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C, NBC reported that rates at the hotel were immediately discounted while other more established hotels were holding firm and booked solid.

“Deluxe” rooms at Trump International Hotel, normally priced at $575 a night, were being offered for $505 — with a discount to $404 for AAA members.

According to a check of Expedia, similar rooms at the St. Regis Washington, D.C. were going for $655, with the Hay-Adams completely full.

...

With reports that Trump hotels are seeing occupancy rates plummet faster than the GOP presidential nominee is falling in the polls, the CEO for Trump Hotels announced future travelers won’t be seeing the old name on any new developments.

According to Travel + Leisure, new Trump luxury hotels will now bear the “Scion” name.

75862   Ceffer   2016 Oct 21, 10:21pm  

Trump can offer bonuses to the scraggly lounge hookers for signing up johns for Trump University.

75863   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Oct 22, 7:59am  

Doesn't that asshole know that we know that he stole the name and the whole idea from Toyota? Do the new scion cars - I mean - hotels come in funky neck beard shapes?

75864   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 22, 11:40am  

Ironman says

FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;

I hope he isn't going to attack them in that order. That is how Obama really fucked everyone the most. If you consider for a moment that it wasn't intentional.

I don't think he will ever get that one approved and that that's not one he can or has the authority to executive order on. And besides I'm fine with the fact that executive order actions are only valid for said President's Term. So Trump is going to have to get Congress to vote on these Bills and Acts before he can sign them into law. I don't see how the Employees will ever vote on themselves being fired.
It could be done at the State level, but then that would be unfair because there would be a lot of partisan states both red and blue that would not place restrictions.

He will never get to his second list and would use that as his campaign to get re-elected. And depending how bogged down in a fight with Congress trying to pass the bullet one in the first list it could all wind up being never realized promises anyway. He needs to go in kicking every nut he sees.

75865   lostand confused   2016 Oct 22, 12:20pm  

Wow-now Hilalry's list
1) Make it legal to delete emails/any other info after subpeona from congress
2)Make it legal to take unlimited cash from foreign governments
3)Declare war on any countries that do not pay the Foundation
4)Make it legal to lie, bribe etc to the FBI and any alw enforcement
5)Make it legal to reveal highly classified info to score a petty point.
6)Once foreign govmts pay up-make all illegal immigrants legal and give the whole hemisphere the right to vote-as long as they vote for her. Ballots for non citizens will have only one choice.

75866   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Oct 22, 12:23pm  

Love it all.

75867   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Oct 22, 12:24pm  

LOL.

Sounds like the idiots here who let words on the internet affect them personally.

75868   ttsmyf   2016 Oct 22, 12:28pm  

Trump will show this compelling price history

http://showrealhist.com
and denounce its omission.

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