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77209   mmmarvel   2016 Nov 15, 12:55pm  

I like Garrison Keillor but he is flat wrong in the editorial. That's fine, we all have the right to be wrong, as was proved by the media and Hillary in this election. Reading through the piece Garrison is doing his own 'butt-hurt' however I never considered him one of the 'liberal elite' that he labels himself in this piece. He needs to go back to the Prairie Home Companion roots and get back in touch with 'the people' and leave the elite snobs.

77210   Rew   2016 Nov 15, 1:05pm  

Imagine yourself in Trump tower with protests in the street right outside and on your TV showing them in cities across the nation. There is infighting and jockeying within your team for positions, and as you try and build a new main administration, people are walking away for positions. What must that feel like?

Donald, I don't think we are 'sending you our best people' anymore.

Ranina ranina says

Libfucks have a hard time coming to grip with honesty in politics. It's just not the way they were raised...

Are you suggesting the presidency is easier than a more narrowly focused cabinet position? Are you suggesting the Presidency is simply a ceremonial and a figure head position? Have you seen the executive power creep of the past four decades or more?

Carson just crazily said he doesn't want a position on the administration, because he would do damage. Recap : Carson ran for President in the primaries.

77211   Y   2016 Nov 15, 1:08pm  

Presidential position these days is ceremonial at best.
Cabineteers run the show on a daily basis..

Rew says

Carson just crazily said he doesn't want a position on the administration, because he would do damage. Recap : Carson ran for President in the primaries.

77212   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 15, 1:11pm  

Keillor talks about what Dems can do while Trump's in office.
They can do all that &
BOYCOTT ALL Rep/Con/Teas too.

77213   Rew   2016 Nov 15, 1:11pm  

Ranina ranina says

Presidential position these days is ceremonial at best.

I see you have made the transition to the Post-fact era well.

77214   Y   2016 Nov 15, 1:14pm  

You don't think trump will be a ceremonial president?
He isn't going to grind over all the shit that occurs.

Rew says

Ranina ranina says

Presidential position these days is ceremonial at best.

I see you have made the transition to the Post-fact era well.

77215   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 15, 1:25pm  

Ranina ranina says

I see you have made the transition to the Post-fact era well.

Fact Checking 2016: Taking my opponents absolutely literally but not seriously.

77216   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 15, 1:26pm  

Al Capone: "Elliot Ness' repeated investigations ruined my chances of a future political career - even in Chicago!!"

77217   Ceffer   2016 Nov 15, 1:36pm  

How come IHLlary didn't release the Kraken hordes of IHL blue meanies in armors of political correctness to take back the election? She abused us of the spectacle we deserved, and just left us a tsunami of panty waisted, hankie twisting sobbing weenies.

77218   Rew   2016 Nov 15, 1:40pm  

Ranina ranina says

You don't think trump will be a ceremonial president?

I absolutely do and that's not normal. That's all Trump is capable of right now though. That doesn't mean that is all that position is capable of. It certainly wasn't ceremonial with Obama, Clinton, Bush, Regan ... and on and on ...

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Taking my opponents absolutely literally but not seriously.

Anyone claiming they can interpret what Trump means through the outright lies and inflammatory rhetoric is deluding themselves.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

He managed to turn a golden opportunity to roll back Pro-Wall Street Regulations and decided to push a massive Health Care Company Subsidy instead.

A good opportunity to delude yourself on Trump here now. You think Trump isn't this position to the extreme? You think this is the change he brings?

77219   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 15, 1:43pm  

Nothing says "Placating the White Working Class" than picking a Muslim as the new head of the DNC.

Rew says

Anyone claiming they can interpret what Trump means through the outright lies and inflammatory rhetoric is deluding themselves.

"You got to have borders."
"Law and Order"
"Wouldn't it be great to get along with Russia."

Rew says

A good opportunity to delude yourself on Trump here now. You think Trump isn't this position to the extreme? You think this is the change he brings?

I've said this for a long time, long before Trump was even dreamed of. And I've hated Hillary forever.

Obama isn't a horrible president, he was a Mediocre one who preserved the Status Quo when a great opportunity to fix the system was presented. Had the Republicans seriously shot down real Wall Steet reform loudly backed by the President, it would have been the hammer with which the Democrats would have swept back into power 2010-2012.

77220   Ceffer   2016 Nov 15, 1:44pm  

It's time we had a President who sucked bankruptcy lawyer cock instead of bankster cock.

77221   missing   2016 Nov 15, 2:39pm  

dublin hillz says

voted against self interest.

Not clear it is so. As a minimum they sent a message that their vote should not be taken for granted. The democrats need to do something to earn it. This may pay off eventually.

77222   Entitlemented   2016 Nov 15, 4:10pm  

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Obama isn't a horrible president, he was a Mediocre one who preserved the Status Quo when a great opportunity to fix the system was presented.

The stock market was flat for 2 years with ZIRP, we have the Russians in Ukraine, ISIS is everywhere, more missile launches in Korea, and China rattling their sabres.

If a president who brings the US to the precipice of socialism, has flat GDP, and has us on the brink of 2-3 WWs is a good dude, what is you idea of bad POTHEADUS?

77223   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 15, 4:51pm  

SO Much Winning. It's amazing how much power the people had, and how it took a full court MSM press to beat them down as deplorable racist, sexist, misgynists who deserved everything they got all these years. Until Trump pointed out the Pundits have no Clothes.

I wonder how many thunderously incorrect pundits, like with the Bush Era Neocons, will be allowed to skate along at their jobs.

"You had one job pundit, tell a narrative that turned out to be somewhat more correct than wrong. You failed!"

77224   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 15, 5:09pm  

Entitlemented says

If a president who brings the US to the precipice of socialism, has flat GDP, and has us on the brink of 2-3 WWs is a good dude, what is you idea of bad POTHEADUS?

I actually believe Obama was keeping Hillary chained down as Sec of State. I feared that Hillary would unleash the dogs of war.

(However, I also believe Obama has sympathy for political Islam of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hizb ul-Tahrir variety).

77226   marcus   2016 Nov 15, 9:23pm  

""That’s right – Trump is so desperate to have people join his team that he’s seeking the Obama administration’s help in filling roles.

While it’s true that presidential transitions aren’t always flawlessly managed, Trump seems to be bungling his in a way that may be unprecedented. Those who voted for Trump last week may have wanted to “shake things up” in Washington, but it’s likely this wasn’t what they had in mind.

If the new president-elect can’t competently run a transition team and staff his government, why should any of us believe he’ll be able to lead the free world?""

Actually this doesn't sound that stupid. Who knows better what is involved in a job than the person currently doing that job ? And who would know better who might be a good republican replacement. Or possibly in some cases where party is irrelevant - people will be invited to keep jobs ?

I'm not convinced this is that terrible. Sound efficient in a way, to me. But I'm sure it's not the usual way it's done. It may be that what he's doing, is putting out feelers to get some of the talent that Hillary had lined up.

That would be smart.

77227   marcus   2016 Nov 15, 9:31pm  

Weird. Blockquote still works if you use the quote feature. That is if it's precedent by a reference link or whatever it's called. But if I just write the tags before and after some quoted text, it doesn't work. Is that intentional Patrick ?

77228   Ceffer   2016 Nov 15, 9:35pm  

Like, Duh, just because I won this stupid election, I still have to do shit? Motherfucker.

77229   Patrick   2016 Nov 15, 9:36pm  

jazz music says

Patrick It would have been better if there was a [delete comment] feature, I regret giving this comment any time at all.

@"jazz music" you should be able to delete any comment you made

77230   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2016 Nov 15, 10:23pm  

Tenpoundbass says

He's done a fantastic job.

True. preventing crooked H from infesting the WH is already enough of a good job.

most blacks will reject a spot in Trump team because they don't want to be a "race traitor"

77231   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2016 Nov 15, 10:33pm  

good now we need Apple to bring both jobs and cash here.

77232   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 15, 10:55pm  

Ranina ranina says

Libfucks have a hard time coming to grip with honesty in politics. It's just not the way they were raised...

Racist farmers are going to have a hard time coming to grips with Trump's Willy shoved up their hind quarters:

http://www.talkmarkets.com/content/us-markets/implications-for-the-agricultural-economy-of-fiscal-policies-proposed-by-president-elect-trump?post=112662&page=2&uid=4798

77233   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 15, 11:11pm  

freespeechforever says

What Nassim Taleb is referencing are events like the invention of the steam engine or computers, effects of natural disasters like the Fukushima crisis, financial crashes such as 1987 Black Monday, 2000 dotcom bubble, and 2008 mortgage crisis, and cultural phenomena like the success of Harry Potter.

I don't necessarily think he included the housing bubble. He may include the subsequent meltdown. Clearly the housing bubble was contrived by David X Li and mispriced risk was adopted by the central banks. The bubble was planned, not a black swan. http://www.talkmarkets.com/content/us-markets/fed-premeditated-mispricing-of-risk-in-housing-oil-junk-bonds-and-other-markets?post=81636&uid=4798

And the meltdown was, I believe, planned too.

77234   bob2356   2016 Nov 15, 11:15pm  

jazz music says

Myron Ebell

Nice job picking the Exxon-Mobil financed climate change denier, who has a degree in political science, as head of the EPA. Who said trump has no sense of humor.

77235   curious2   2016 Nov 16, 1:47am  

Voters were not offered a fair choice. You can say what you want about the Republicans, but the Democrats did not offer any plan to gain control of the climate. That would require geo-engineering, e.g. maybe converting CO2 to calcium carbonate, or developing space elevators to move cargo and heat from the surface into space, or something else. (Current proposals have not been adopted by either major party due to being either dreadfully bad ideas, e.g. spraying H2SO4 into the upper atmosphere, or prohibitively expensive, e.g. orbiting mirrors.) Instead, Democrats proposed massive transfer payments to corrupt governments in backwards countries, including Muslim countries that would kill us if they get a chance. All the Democrats' complaints about Republicans merely illustrate the point: to be a winning party, you need to build a winning coalition and platform. Even a modestly sensible party with a reasonable candidate should have been able to win this election by a wide margin, but instead Democrats campaigned on Obamneycare, importing jihadis, and making Americans pay jizya. Somehow that sold in California, though turnout in CA was low. It didn't sell across the other 49 states, where turnout was higher.

77236   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 16, 5:55am  

Yeah and Obama put the WuTu Clan in his cabinet.

77237   GNL   2016 Nov 16, 6:24am  

Government agencies, filled with unelected dictators, make more laws that upend you life than elected politicians do. I hope Trump dismantles 50% of all government agencies through budget cuts.

Can I get a whoop whoop?!!!!

77238   junkmail   2016 Nov 16, 7:18am  

Is this in relation to another thread?

77239   junkmail   2016 Nov 16, 7:34am  

...well if the GERMANS are worried, perhaps we should be too.
Yeah, because Germans have a stellar voting record.

77240   mell   2016 Nov 16, 7:41am  

Der Spiegel turned into a rag long ago. Many Germans actually welcome the patriotic shift and it is likely that more countries in Europe will now follow tp put their interests before those of centralistic globalist sellout plutocrats.

77241   Dan8267   2016 Nov 16, 8:48am  

WorkInProgress says

I hope Trump dismantles 50% of all government agencies through budget cuts.

Starting with the military and defense contractors.

77242   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 16, 9:06am  

errc says

Damn jazz, the media really has you all worked up over nothing

The Germans have seen racism and destruction by racism first hand. If you think you know more than them I think you don't.

77243   Dan8267   2016 Nov 16, 9:57am  

jazz music says

Back in 1956 I would have surely been a republican. And I'd probably have an "I like Ike" pin.

Of course, back then the democrats were evil. No surprise because the people who were democrats then are republicans now and vice versa. It's not the name of the political party that matters. It's the people in it.

77244   junkmail   2016 Nov 16, 10:20am  

He's also slammed the Democrats too. He's not a fan of American Imperialism. Google what he said about Obama..

www.youtube.com/embed/8mA4HYTO790

77245   curious2   2016 Nov 16, 12:34pm  

Democrats including the OP seem intensely emotional at the moment, competing to denounce the next administration, yet now might be the moment to see they could have done better. It's a climate thread, and I do want to follow up on the opportunities to make use of CO2:

Noam Chomsky has an office at MIT, where he remains Professor Emeritus. If he walks across the campus, he can see this:

"Putting carbon dioxide to good use

MIT biological engineers have found a way to convert carbon-dioxide emissions to useful building materials, using genetically altered yeast."

Noam travels, and might like to see this:

"Researchers convert carbon dioxide into a valuable resource
***
Researchers at Aalto University have opened a pilot plant that converts CO2 and slag, the by-product of steel manufacturing, into a valuable mineral product. The product, Precipitated Calcium Carbonate (PCC), is used in e.g. plastics, papers, rubbers and paints. The innovative plant represents the next stage prior commercialization of a new process that consumes CO2 in order to convert a low-value by-product into a highly valuable resource for industry."

If you believe that CO2 controls climate, then you should be thinking about how to convert excess CO2 into something more useful. Instead, Democrats proposed only transfer payments that they could take a cut of, en route to sending the money to backwards corrupt countries where they would get kickbacks, and those backwards countries include Muslim countries, so we could all get our heads cut off. That would be what scientists like to call "a bad idea." Finding uses for excess CO2, and ways to manage temperature more directly, would be what scientists like to call "a good idea."

Someday Democrats might admit that they have room for improvement. Actual liberalism should embrace science and must absolutely denounce Islam. Democrats did the opposite, and are currently doubling down. I hope America and science will make enough progress in the next four years to raise the level of discussion from despair to optimism.

77246   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 16, 1:18pm  

Ban POV Cars. And intercontinental pleasure flights. And tax the fuck out of intercontinental business flights. Everytime Tom Friedman flies to Turkey to do a fawning report on IBM Officies in Izmir, he emits more carbon than a block of middle class American families do in a year. All else is nothing. Certainly recycling cardboard is "Environmental Theatre" the way the TSA is "Security Theatre". Carbon Credits is a Wall Street scam to create a speculative market.

The Democratic candidate, as SoS, travelled as far afield as Poland to promote Fracking, and the President had to step in and go over her head to delay Keystone XL, she wanted to approve it.

77247   Shaman   2016 Nov 16, 1:32pm  

It can be so annoying when your beautiful idea is blown away by an ugly fact.

77248   curious2   2016 Nov 16, 1:47pm  

So, returning to the topic of your own OP, what is your proposal to manage the climate? Taxing Americans to subsidize corrupt politicians and kleptocracies in central Africa? That is basically the point of the current conference in Morocco, and other similar conferences that generate a lot of spending. Do you see how your focus on red team vs blue team perpetuates the division you complain of, while preventing you from even proposing anything to address the issue you posted about?

jazz music says

humanitarian works

"[January 12] marked six years since a 7.0-magnitude earthquake devastated Haiti, killing an estimated 300,000 people. Tens of thousands of Haitians are still living in tents. Here in New York City, a group of Haitians gathered in front of the Clinton Foundation to protest former President Bill Clinton’s role as head of the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission. Activist Dahoud Andre was among them.

Dahoud Andre: "Today is the 12th of January 2016, six years after the earthquake. And for us, it was important to be in front of the Clinton Foundation, because Bill Clinton, as head of the IHRC, Interim Haiti Recovery Commission, was responsible for the $6 billion that came into his hands. He had unlimited control of this money. Six years after the earthquake, not much has changed, and as a matter of fact, Haiti is in worse condition than it was in 2010. Only Bill Clinton can tell the world what happened with this money.""

That doesn't even mention the cholera that Haitians got from the U.N. as part of that aid. Talking about disasters, and collecting money supposedly for humanitarian purposes, does not really do humanitarian work.

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