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Ranina ranina says

You don't think trump will be a ceremonial president?

I absolutely do and that's not normal. That's all Trump is capable of right now though. That doesn't mean that is all that position is capable of. It certainly wasn't ceremonial with Obama, Clinton, Bush, Regan ... and on and on ...

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Taking my opponents absolutely literally but not seriously.

Anyone claiming they can interpret what Trump means through the outright lies and inflammatory rhetoric is deluding themselves.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

He managed to turn a golden opportunity to roll back Pro-Wall Street Regulations and decided to push a massive Health Care Company Subsidy instead.

A good opportunity to delude yourself on Trump here now. You think Trump isn't this position to the extreme? You think this is the change he brings?

Nothing says "Placating the White Working Class" than picking a Muslim as the new head of the DNC.

Rew says

Anyone claiming they can interpret what Trump means through the outright lies and inflammatory rhetoric is deluding themselves.

"You got to have borders."
"Law and Order"
"Wouldn't it be great to get along with Russia."

Rew says

A good opportunity to delude yourself on Trump here now. You think Trump isn't this position to the extreme? You think this is the change he brings?

I've said this for a long time, long before Trump was even dreamed of. And I've hated Hillary forever.

Obama isn't a horrible president, he was a Mediocre one who preserved the Status Quo when a great opportunity to fix the system was presented. Had the Republicans seriously shot down real Wall Steet reform loudly backed by the President, it would have been the hammer with which the Democrats would have swept back into power 2010-2012.

It's time we had a President who sucked bankruptcy lawyer cock instead of bankster cock.

dublin hillz says

voted against self interest.

Not clear it is so. As a minimum they sent a message that their vote should not be taken for granted. The democrats need to do something to earn it. This may pay off eventually.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Obama isn't a horrible president, he was a Mediocre one who preserved the Status Quo when a great opportunity to fix the system was presented.

The stock market was flat for 2 years with ZIRP, we have the Russians in Ukraine, ISIS is everywhere, more missile launches in Korea, and China rattling their sabres.

If a president who brings the US to the precipice of socialism, has flat GDP, and has us on the brink of 2-3 WWs is a good dude, what is you idea of bad POTHEADUS?

SO Much Winning. It's amazing how much power the people had, and how it took a full court MSM press to beat them down as deplorable racist, sexist, misgynists who deserved everything they got all these years. Until Trump pointed out the Pundits have no Clothes.

I wonder how many thunderously incorrect pundits, like with the Bush Era Neocons, will be allowed to skate along at their jobs.

"You had one job pundit, tell a narrative that turned out to be somewhat more correct than wrong. You failed!"

Entitlemented says

If a president who brings the US to the precipice of socialism, has flat GDP, and has us on the brink of 2-3 WWs is a good dude, what is you idea of bad POTHEADUS?

I actually believe Obama was keeping Hillary chained down as Sec of State. I feared that Hillary would unleash the dogs of war.

(However, I also believe Obama has sympathy for political Islam of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hizb ul-Tahrir variety).

jazz music says

PRESCRIPTION PAINKILLERS NOW THE LEADING CAUSE OF ACCIDENTAL DEATHS
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Car accidents are no longer the leading cause of accidental deaths in the United States.

Thanks, Obamneycare. As an added bonus, if you do get into a car accident, you can look forward to higher unexpected bills than ever before.

""That’s right – Trump is so desperate to have people join his team that he’s seeking the Obama administration’s help in filling roles.

While it’s true that presidential transitions aren’t always flawlessly managed, Trump seems to be bungling his in a way that may be unprecedented. Those who voted for Trump last week may have wanted to “shake things up” in Washington, but it’s likely this wasn’t what they had in mind.

If the new president-elect can’t competently run a transition team and staff his government, why should any of us believe he’ll be able to lead the free world?""

Actually this doesn't sound that stupid. Who knows better what is involved in a job than the person currently doing that job ? And who would know better who might be a good republican replacement. Or possibly in some cases where party is irrelevant - people will be invited to keep jobs ?

I'm not convinced this is that terrible. Sound efficient in a way, to me. But I'm sure it's not the usual way it's done. It may be that what he's doing, is putting out feelers to get some of the talent that Hillary had lined up.

That would be smart.

Weird. Blockquote still works if you use the quote feature. That is if it's precedent by a reference link or whatever it's called. But if I just write the tags before and after some quoted text, it doesn't work. Is that intentional Patrick ?

Like, Duh, just because I won this stupid election, I still have to do shit? Motherfucker.

jazz music says

Patrick It would have been better if there was a [delete comment] feature, I regret giving this comment any time at all.

@"jazz music" you should be able to delete any comment you made

Tenpoundbass says

He's done a fantastic job.

True. preventing crooked H from infesting the WH is already enough of a good job.

most blacks will reject a spot in Trump team because they don't want to be a "race traitor"

good now we need Apple to bring both jobs and cash here.

Ranina ranina says

Libfucks have a hard time coming to grip with honesty in politics. It's just not the way they were raised...

Racist farmers are going to have a hard time coming to grips with Trump's Willy shoved up their hind quarters:

http://www.talkmarkets.com/content/us-markets/implications-for-the-agricultural-economy-of-fiscal-policies-proposed-by-president-elect-trump?post=112662&page=2&uid=4798

freespeechforever says

What Nassim Taleb is referencing are events like the invention of the steam engine or computers, effects of natural disasters like the Fukushima crisis, financial crashes such as 1987 Black Monday, 2000 dotcom bubble, and 2008 mortgage crisis, and cultural phenomena like the success of Harry Potter.

I don't necessarily think he included the housing bubble. He may include the subsequent meltdown. Clearly the housing bubble was contrived by David X Li and mispriced risk was adopted by the central banks. The bubble was planned, not a black swan. http://www.talkmarkets.com/content/us-markets/fed-premeditated-mispricing-of-risk-in-housing-oil-junk-bonds-and-other-markets?post=81636&uid=4798

And the meltdown was, I believe, planned too.

jazz music says

Myron Ebell

Nice job picking the Exxon-Mobil financed climate change denier, who has a degree in political science, as head of the EPA. Who said trump has no sense of humor.

Voters were not offered a fair choice. You can say what you want about the Republicans, but the Democrats did not offer any plan to gain control of the climate. That would require geo-engineering, e.g. maybe converting CO2 to calcium carbonate, or developing space elevators to move cargo and heat from the surface into space, or something else. (Current proposals have not been adopted by either major party due to being either dreadfully bad ideas, e.g. spraying H2SO4 into the upper atmosphere, or prohibitively expensive, e.g. orbiting mirrors.) Instead, Democrats proposed massive transfer payments to corrupt governments in backwards countries, including Muslim countries that would kill us if they get a chance. All the Democrats' complaints about Republicans merely illustrate the point: to be a winning party, you need to build a winning coalition and platform. Even a modestly sensible party with a reasonable candidate should have been able to win this election by a wide margin, but instead Democrats campaigned on Obamneycare, importing jihadis, and making Americans pay jizya. Somehow that sold in California, though turnout in CA was low. It didn't sell across the other 49 states, where turnout was higher.

Yeah and Obama put the WuTu Clan in his cabinet.

Government agencies, filled with unelected dictators, make more laws that upend you life than elected politicians do. I hope Trump dismantles 50% of all government agencies through budget cuts.

Can I get a whoop whoop?!!!!

Is this in relation to another thread?

...well if the GERMANS are worried, perhaps we should be too.
Yeah, because Germans have a stellar voting record.

Der Spiegel turned into a rag long ago. Many Germans actually welcome the patriotic shift and it is likely that more countries in Europe will now follow tp put their interests before those of centralistic globalist sellout plutocrats.

WorkInProgress says

I hope Trump dismantles 50% of all government agencies through budget cuts.

Starting with the military and defense contractors.

errc says

Damn jazz, the media really has you all worked up over nothing

The Germans have seen racism and destruction by racism first hand. If you think you know more than them I think you don't.

jazz music says

Back in 1956 I would have surely been a republican. And I'd probably have an "I like Ike" pin.

Of course, back then the democrats were evil. No surprise because the people who were democrats then are republicans now and vice versa. It's not the name of the political party that matters. It's the people in it.

He's also slammed the Democrats too. He's not a fan of American Imperialism. Google what he said about Obama..

www.youtube.com/embed/8mA4HYTO790

Democrats including the OP seem intensely emotional at the moment, competing to denounce the next administration, yet now might be the moment to see they could have done better. It's a climate thread, and I do want to follow up on the opportunities to make use of CO2:

Noam Chomsky has an office at MIT, where he remains Professor Emeritus. If he walks across the campus, he can see this:

"Putting carbon dioxide to good use

MIT biological engineers have found a way to convert carbon-dioxide emissions to useful building materials, using genetically altered yeast."

Noam travels, and might like to see this:

"Researchers convert carbon dioxide into a valuable resource
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Researchers at Aalto University have opened a pilot plant that converts CO2 and slag, the by-product of steel manufacturing, into a valuable mineral product. The product, Precipitated Calcium Carbonate (PCC), is used in e.g. plastics, papers, rubbers and paints. The innovative plant represents the next stage prior commercialization of a new process that consumes CO2 in order to convert a low-value by-product into a highly valuable resource for industry."

If you believe that CO2 controls climate, then you should be thinking about how to convert excess CO2 into something more useful. Instead, Democrats proposed only transfer payments that they could take a cut of, en route to sending the money to backwards corrupt countries where they would get kickbacks, and those backwards countries include Muslim countries, so we could all get our heads cut off. That would be what scientists like to call "a bad idea." Finding uses for excess CO2, and ways to manage temperature more directly, would be what scientists like to call "a good idea."

Someday Democrats might admit that they have room for improvement. Actual liberalism should embrace science and must absolutely denounce Islam. Democrats did the opposite, and are currently doubling down. I hope America and science will make enough progress in the next four years to raise the level of discussion from despair to optimism.

Ban POV Cars. And intercontinental pleasure flights. And tax the fuck out of intercontinental business flights. Everytime Tom Friedman flies to Turkey to do a fawning report on IBM Officies in Izmir, he emits more carbon than a block of middle class American families do in a year. All else is nothing. Certainly recycling cardboard is "Environmental Theatre" the way the TSA is "Security Theatre". Carbon Credits is a Wall Street scam to create a speculative market.

The Democratic candidate, as SoS, travelled as far afield as Poland to promote Fracking, and the President had to step in and go over her head to delay Keystone XL, she wanted to approve it.

It can be so annoying when your beautiful idea is blown away by an ugly fact.

So, returning to the topic of your own OP, what is your proposal to manage the climate? Taxing Americans to subsidize corrupt politicians and kleptocracies in central Africa? That is basically the point of the current conference in Morocco, and other similar conferences that generate a lot of spending. Do you see how your focus on red team vs blue team perpetuates the division you complain of, while preventing you from even proposing anything to address the issue you posted about?

jazz music says

humanitarian works

"[January 12] marked six years since a 7.0-magnitude earthquake devastated Haiti, killing an estimated 300,000 people. Tens of thousands of Haitians are still living in tents. Here in New York City, a group of Haitians gathered in front of the Clinton Foundation to protest former President Bill Clinton’s role as head of the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission. Activist Dahoud Andre was among them.

Dahoud Andre: "Today is the 12th of January 2016, six years after the earthquake. And for us, it was important to be in front of the Clinton Foundation, because Bill Clinton, as head of the IHRC, Interim Haiti Recovery Commission, was responsible for the $6 billion that came into his hands. He had unlimited control of this money. Six years after the earthquake, not much has changed, and as a matter of fact, Haiti is in worse condition than it was in 2010. Only Bill Clinton can tell the world what happened with this money.""

That doesn't even mention the cholera that Haitians got from the U.N. as part of that aid. Talking about disasters, and collecting money supposedly for humanitarian purposes, does not really do humanitarian work.

#1, heart, #2, cancer, #3, Iatrogenic=death by doctor

Didn't really realize how bad it was until earlier this year a family member got talked into a procedure (they didn't need in the first place, colonoscopy), sent home in massive pain (with a painkiller btw which also thins your blood and conks you out), bled out in their sleep, unable to awaken as well. Big loss, incredible lady..

junkmail says

Is this in relation to another thread?

We don't have any User's medical history, but people who suffer chronic migraines may be prescribed analgesics (including opiates and opioids) that can cause dizziness and loss of balance. Also, hospitals injure 20% of patients; in circumstances where the standard of care calls for hospitalization, that introduces additional risks.

I remain dismayed by the tragic loss of a true favorite on PatNet. Almost everyone liked her, and everyone should have.

jazz music says

the threat of nuclear destruction

Blue team partisans kept saying that, but it backfired because their candidate and her surrogates had the worst risk of it, escalating the war in Syria on behalf of their Saudi sponsors. Democrats proposed killing Russians in Syria, including shooting down Russian planes in Syria ("no fly zone"), literally seconds from Armageddon. Somehow, Democrats kept saying "nuclear war" without realizing it backfired on them every time, because they could not (or refused to) see the danger from their own policies. None so blind as those who will not see. I considered carefully the risk of war on either side, and every time Democrats mentioned the issue it hardened my unwillingness to vote for their catastrophic proposals. Watch the original The Sum of all Fears (2002), with Ben Affleck and Morgan Freeman, and remember Muslims are the last surviving component of the Nazis' European axis. 100k European Muslims joined the Nazi SS because of the similarity of their ideology. The Clintons have misled America into war on behalf of their Saudi sponsors time and again, killing hundreds of thousands and possibly millions, and HIllary proposed killing Russians, who can fight back in all sorts of ways including nuclear. You keep talking about existential threats, but citing examples that were worse from the blue team. Basically, you are making the case against the Democrats. You might like the Post about Why Democrats Lost because you keep bringing up reasons why Democrats lost.

The funny thing is that such biased polls backfired horribly.

Arguably, they created a sense of complacency that suppressed turnout.

jazz music says

our principal natural enemies.

If we would like to continue living, then our principal natural enemies are the people who believe they are commanded to kill us wherever they find us. They are the same people who commit the vast majority of terror attacks worldwide, because Islam commands believers to strike terror into the enemies of Allah. Democrats wanted to import more of them, and want now to have one chair the DNC. Again, you keep making a case against the Democrats, apparently without realizing it.

If you consider opioid painkillers as a larger problem of addiction and impairment rather than a smaller problem of over prescribing, than there is a larger uncounted death toll.

Seldom is anybody is going to waste money to autopsy a junkie or an addict to establish a precise cause of death, toxicology etc. all of which are expensive. The stigma of addiction leads to a lot of 'causes of death' being attributed to something other than alcohol, nicotine, narcotics, stimulants etc.

Also, there is no counting the number of non-vehicular accidental deaths caused by individuals being impaired in one way or another. The deaths that are counted are just a percentage of a much bigger uncounted and unattributed number.

I doubt that opioid painkillers, taken as prescribed for the purpose they were intended, lead to many deaths. It is going to be the non-prescribed abuse.

The drug companies? All pushers know that addicts are a boon to profits.

The fact of the matter is the many polls had Hillary up about 5%, but with a 5% or so margin of error. So one could argue that it was a tie all that time.

Then you had to figure that lots of Trump voters weren't admitting it, or else they might get fired from their job like they do at Grubhub.

I thought it was possible, but I thought it would be tighter than it was in terms of the electoral college vote. He actually blew her out pretty nicely.

NBC and even ABC had her at double digits for quite a bit.

http://heatst.com/politics/donald-trumps-fisa-warrant-russia-admits-it-ran-him-as-agent-of-influence/

October the FBI sought, and was granted, a secret FISA court warrant giving U.S. counter-intelligence agents permission to examine the activities of “U.S. persons” in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.